User talk:Rikster2/Archive 1

All-Americans
The following was posted on my talk page in response to our discussion about all-americans. I figured it was more directed at you than me since you are adding the consensus lists, so I've pasted it here in case you don't see it on my talk. Ryan2845 (talk) 07:40, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

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 * AFAIK, there is no such thing as Consensus Second-Team. I mostly work on football however.  Where did the lingo come from?  From what I understand there are three types of All-Americans (plus second and third-team):


 * 1) Player on at least one First-Team of lists recognized for consensus.
 * 2) Player on at least half of the First-Teams of recognized lists is considered Consensus All-American.
 * 3) Player on all of the First-Teams of recognized lists is considered Unanimous All-American.

Players who make no first-teams are generally described by their highest team of the recognized lists. E.g., In 2003, Kirk Hinrich was a Third-team All-American, Kyle Korver was a Second-team All-American, Carmelo Anthony was an All-American, Hollis Price was a consensus All-American and David West (basketball) was a unanimous All-American.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 02:58, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

dash question
Went ahead and answered your question (or attempted to, haha) on my talk page, just fyi. Cardsplayer4life (talk) 00:09, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I wasn't exactly sure what you were asking for on that table question, but I left some possibilities on your page. Hope it was of some help; If not, I can try to help further. Cardsplayer4life (talk) 05:08, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

2008-09 ACC Men's Basketball Season
Thanks for the kind words. I'm no maverick of Wikipedia, but I had been under the assumption that you only linked the first occurrence of an item in a section or even a page. I did a little research and did find the Wikipedia policy that talks about "over linking". General guidelines are to only link the first occurrence in a section, but tables are excluded from that. So if you want to go ahead and re-link everything thats fine with me.

This article has a lot of potential. I'm hoping we can add a lot more true content as opposed to just a bunch of lists and tables. As I come across info I'll continue to update. The ACC is the class of college basketball and it's Wikipedia pages should reflect that. Jober14 (talk) 03:17, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for your feedback. I appreciate the help. Maple Leaf (talk) 18:32, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Notable Undrafted
I realized that the section exists in every NBA draft article. But since reviewers at featured list review believe that the section is highly objective (Who is to say who is more notable among undrafted picks?), it was taken out as a result. Cheers.— Chris!  c t 01:12, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Oldham
Yep, I confirmed that with the WKU media guide. I moved the page, because I think he was reasonably notable as a player and a coach. Zagalejo^^^ 01:32, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep up the good work yourself! Zagalejo^^^ 01:34, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

2008–09 Big Ten Conference men's basketball season GA
Thanks for your editorial contributions to 2008–09 Big Ten Conference men's basketball season, which is now a WP:GA.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:00, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Need a valued opinion
Rikster2, I need a trusted editor's opinion on an issue regarding what to include in Villanova University's template. Please see the template's talk page for the discussion I've opened up regarding the matter (it involves a page you created actually). Thanks in advance. Jrcla2 talk 19:45, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Help on Haggerty Award
I was wondering if you could help me out on the Haggerty Award since you created it. What needs to be done that would take entirely too long and tedious to do by myself is finding all of the positions and class years of the listed players for the year that they won that award. I did all of them on the Atlantic Coast Conference Men's Basketball Player of the Year and it took forever. Anyway, just wondering if you'd help me out. Thanks in advance. Jrcla2 talk 16:58, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I do my best to find the actual position, but if no real discernible position can be found, then I just put Forward, Guard or Center. It's pretty clear to an average reader that no specific position is listed because it probably either can't be found or it wasn't ever established. Jrcla2 talk 14:40, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Big Ten / Summit / MAC
I will do the Big Ten as well as the University of Michigan basketball seasons. I will not likely do any other conferences. I would hope that everyone who did a conference last year will the same one this year and other conferences will notice. If there is anything I can do to help encourage others to do pages let me know.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 20:57, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * And I'm in for the Summit and MAC articles. — X96lee15 (talk) 19:15, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

CAA
I'm willing to attempt the CAA page, but I'll give an honest warning up front that I'm probably not going to go very in-depth with it. To make a quality NCAA basketball season article requires a lot of writing, researching and upkeep. I bring that point up because I have a slight ADHD problem when it comes to Wikipedia – if I make a page, you can be sure it'll be of the utmost quality work, but sometimes the tasks themselves get too big for me to maintain (such is the risk that this page creation poses). Also, making (or even contributing to) a conference's basketball season article is brand new territory to me, so I'm not really sure what it is I need to even do, know what I mean? Again, I'll volunteer for the 2009–10 CAA article, but I might request assistance (it doesn't necessarily have to be from you, I could just leave a message on WikiProject CBB's talk page). Jrcla2 (talk) 21:22, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Hey. Jrcla2 has been helping quite a bit on the CAA football and University of Delaware football pages that I have been working on for quite some time, so seeing he was going to jump on board for the basketball, I am volunteering myself to give him a hand. I'm a season ticket holder for Delaware football and men's basketball and live 2 minutes from the school, so I'm a big CAA fan. Superman7515 (talk) 02:10, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

AfD vote needed
Can you go to Articles for deletion/List of NCAA Division I men's basketball players with 2000 points and 1000 rebounds and put in your opinion/vote? Thanks! Jrcla2 (talk) 03:01, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Assistance in bringing UNC Basketball seasons up to GA status
Based on your recent edits, I thought you might be interested in helping me bring North Carolina Tar Heels men's basketball seasons up to GA status. Let me know if you are interested. Remember (talk) 18:29, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/2009–10 New Mexico Lobos basketball team
I have nominated for deletion an article you have edited. You are welcome to comment in the discussion. Lady of  Shalott  21:25, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Bud Millikan
Thanks for tracking down the birth date. I busted my ass trying to find it. You would have thought it would have been a basic item in obit. Anyway out of curiosity where did you find it? Thanks again! Americasroof (talk) 02:40, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. I found it by Googling "Bud Millikan born" and got his obit from the Baltimore Sun.  Rikster2 (talk) 18:05, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Academic All-Americans
I left the formatting very raw because I feel there are decisions to be made by others on what should be included and how it should be formatted. Any decisions you make are fine.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:43, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * P.S. I intend to change the Academic All-American redirect into an article in the future.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:45, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * My thinking is that many redlinks may take care of themselves as the draft approaches. If you want to create them go a head.  I assume you would want to be a co-nominator.  My thinking is that once we put one through the WP:FLC process, we will better understand the types of concerns that will make these better every year.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:02, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Virginia Sports Hall of Fame inductees
I have nominated virginia sports hall of fame inductees for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:01, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Consensus All-Americans
Do you have a citation for the official designation of Consensus All-Americans?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:11, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes: http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/stats/m_basketball_RB/2010/Awards.pdf - it's the same formula every year: 3 points for 1st team, 2 points for second team, 1 point for third team. The NCAA Record Books recognize first and second team consensus team.  Rikster2 (talk) 01:30, 21 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Getting ready for WP:FLC. You may have noticed that I did an overhaul of 2010 NCAA Men's Basketball All-Americans to get it ready. I am wondering if you want to get some of the older lists ready.  At one point you mentioned that you would add Academic All-American teams.  If you do this and I add sortable tables at the top and some text we could produce these backwards for several years.  What do you think?  I am thinking that some time after the draft we should start nominating these.  Here are some Academic All-American links that I have found:
 * http://www.cosida.com/documents/2008/2/26/2008_mbb_aaa.pdf
 * http://www.cosida.com/formpdfs/ACAAMBB07.pdf
 * http://www.cosida.com/news/2007/2/28/Iowas_Haluska__Washingtons_Mo_Ruths_Head_200.aspx
 * http://www.cosida.com/news/2005/3/2/2005.ESPN.The.Magazine.Academic.AllAmerica%C2%AE.Men%E2%80%99s.aspx
 * http://www.cosida.com/formpdfs/2003-04Men_sBasketballTeamRelease%5B1%5D.pdf

Some further information on first teams is available here: http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/stats/m_basketball_RB/2010/Awards.pdf --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:35, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Consensus needed for Template:College Basketball Awards
I started a thread on Template talk:College Basketball Awards to see what interested editors think of my proposal. I'd like it if you commented and also alerted others who you know to be active WikiProject College Basketball contributors to also join in. Thanks. Jrcla2 (talk) 02:23, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Infobox format opinion
Please comment at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_College_Basketball.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:19, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Division I Independents POY
Is there any master list of NCAA Division I Independents Men's Basketball Players of the Year? I can't seem to find one anywhere. I see where Seattle University's Charles Garcia was recently named the D-I Independent Player of the Year, but I'd like to be able to make a navbox and list article for it too.

Oh, I also am having trouble finding the POY list for the MEAC. Jrcla2 (talk) 03:13, 15 April 2010 (UTC)


 * That's ok. I am considering emailing the MEAC and SWAC to ask them for their master list of men's basketball players of the year. I would tell them honestly why I was interested, hoping that they'd be more willing to help out. In unrelated news, I just made the article for Tony Dunkin, who I think you might find to be extremely interesting considering you've been a POY navbox/article creator and updater. Four time player of the year! Unreal. Jrcla2 (talk) 19:39, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Navbox controversy
I have been debating with folks at WP:HOCKEY about navboxes. Can you please make sure that I am representing the college basketball position on the policy User:TonyTheTiger/sandbox/Hockey mafia issue correctly.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:25, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Navbox proposal
Please comment at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_College_Basketball.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:25, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Have a look at the overhaul.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:32, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Template policy discussion
You are invited to help consider a common template policy for all WP:SPORTS biography articles at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Sports.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:30, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

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