User talk:Riley1012/Archive 3

This archive includes all talk page messages from 2022 --Riley1012 (talk) 21:04, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Welcome to the 2022 WikiCup!
Happy New Year and Happy New WikiCup! The 2022 competition has just begun and all article creators, expanders, improvers and reviewers are welcome to take part. Even if you are a novice editor you should be able to advance to at least the second round, improving your editing skills as you go. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and the judges will set up your submissions page. Any questions on the rules or on anything else should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the WikiCup talk page. Signups will close at the end of January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will move on to round 2. The judges for the WikiCup this year are: and. Good luck! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:37, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Rebeca Andrade
The article Rebeca Andrade you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Rebeca Andrade for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sportsfan77777 -- Sportsfan77777 (talk) 17:41, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Rebeca Andrade
The article Rebeca Andrade you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Rebeca Andrade for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sportsfan77777 -- Sportsfan77777 (talk) 15:21, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Matvei Petrov
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

February with Women in Red
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DYK for Rebeca Andrade
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Kamila_Valieva locked with misinformation
why did you request a lock for Kamila_Valieva page while it contained confirmed misinformation? detailed in talk of that page. remove the misinformation. as of now there is no confirmed positive test. but page says there is even cited source do not say any such thing. don't use, or help in the use, of wikipedia for slanderous projects especially against children  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2402:4000:2081:A720:48DB:50BF:A506:2 (talk) 03:54, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
 * @2402:4000:2081:A720:48DB:50BF:A506:2 there have already been responses to you on Talk:Kamila Valieva, but I just want to reiterate that I am not in any way trying to slander Valieva. I requested a page lock so that experienced editors will be able to edit the page as this situation develops rather than letting people vandalize the page. The International Testing Agency has confirmed a positive test (Source). -Riley1012 (talk) 17:09, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Gymnastics
Can you help me fix the mess Lugnuts has made by making a crap ton of gymnastics stubs that say an athelete competed on all events when they didn’t make it past qualifications, please? Examples: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Chung-sik, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dieter_Rehm. I just change the article to say that they competed at the Olympics, or if they made an individual final, their ranking from the final(s).
 * @ I am not particularly interested in challenging Lugnuts because as you know, they are very defensive of their own pages. I agree the way they write their Olympic stubs is unnatural and doesn't make sense. My current focus is on improving 2020 Olympian articles, but if I come across any of those kinds of stubs, I'll change them. -Riley1012 (talk) 16:55, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Lihie Raz
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March editathons
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WikiCup 2022 March newsletter
And so ends the first round of the WikiCup. Last year anyone who scored more than zero points moved on to Round 2, but this was not the case this year, and a score of 13 or more was required to proceed. The top scorers in Round 1 were:


 * Epicgenius, a finalist last year, who led the field with 1906 points, gained from 32 GAs and 19 DYKs, all on the topic of New York buildings.
 * 🇨🇽 AryKun, new to the contest, was second with 1588 points, having achieved 2 FAs, 11 GAs and various other submissions, mostly on the subject of birds.
 * Bloom6132, a WikiCup veteran, was in third place with 682 points, garnered from 51 In the news items and several DYKs.
 * GhostRiver was close behind with 679 points, gained from achieving 12 GAs, mostly on ice hockey players, and 35 GARs.
 * 🇺🇳 Kavyansh.Singh was in fifth place with 551 points, with an FA, a FL, and many reviews.
 * Flag of Provo, Utah (1989–2015).svg SounderBruce was next with 454 points, gained from an FA and various other submissions, mostly on United States highways.
 * 🇺🇳 Ktin, another WikiCup veteran, was in seventh place with 412 points, mostly gained from In the news items.

These contestants, like all the others who qualified for Round 2, now have to start scoring points again from scratch. Between them, contestants completed reviews of a large number of good articles as the contest ran concurrently with a GAN backlog drive. Well done all! To qualify for Round 3, contestants will need to finish Round 2 among the top thirty-two participants.

Remember that any content promoted after the end of Round 1 but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Anything that should have been claimed for in Round 1 is no longer eligible for points. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews Needed.

Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk) MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:07, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Pranati Nayak
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Rut Castillo
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April Editathons from Women in Red
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DYK for Marina Nekrasova
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DYK for Tin Srbić
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WikiCup 2022 May newsletter
The second round of the 2022 WikiCup has now finished. It was a high-scoring round and contestants needed 115 points to advance to round 3. There were some very impressive efforts in round 2, with the top seven contestants all scoring more than 500 points. A large number of the points came from the 11 featured articles and the 79 good articles achieved in total by contestants.

Our top scorers in round 2 were:


 * 1) Epicgenius, with 1264 points from 2 featured article, 4 good articles and 18 DYKs. Epicgenius was a finalist last year but has now withdrawn from the contest as he pursues a new career path.
 * 2) 🇨🇽 AryKun, with 1172 points from two featured articles, one good article and a substantial number of featured article and good article reviews.
 * 3) Bloom6132, with 605 points from 44 in the news items and 4 DYKs.
 * 4) Transgender Pride flag.svg Sammi Brie, with 573 points from 8 GAs and 21 DYKs.
 * 5) Vexilloid of the Roman Empire.svg Ealdgyth, with 567 points from 11 GAs and 34 good and featured article reviews.
 * 6) Panini!, with 549 points from 1 FA, 4 GAs and several other sources.
 * 7) 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Lee Vilenski, with 545 points from 1 FA, 4 GAs and a number of reviews.

The rules for featured and good article reviews require the review to be of sufficient length; brief quick fails and very short reviews will generally not be awarded points. Remember also that DYKs cannot be claimed until they have appeared on the main page. As we enter the third round, any content promoted after the end of round 2 but before the start of round 3 can be claimed now, and anything you forgot to claim in round 2 cannot! Remember too, that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them. When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article nominations, a featured process, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) and Cwmhiraeth Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:39, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Barbora Mokošová
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 17 May 2022 (UTC) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 02:40, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

June events from Women in Red
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Your GA nomination of Nina Derwael
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Nina Derwael you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Edwininlondon -- Edwininlondon (talk) 21:41, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Nina Derwael
The article Nina Derwael you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Nina Derwael for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Edwininlondon -- Edwininlondon (talk) 13:41, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Women in Green - July GA Editathon
 Hello Riley1012:

WikiProject Women in Green is holding a  month-long Good Article Editathon event in July 2022!

Running from July 1 to 31, 2022, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) editathon event focused on the topic of women and the environment. Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to women and women's works during the event period (with an emphasis on environmental links and topics). GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to receive a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.

We hope to see you there! Alanna the Brave (talk) 13:36, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Women in Red in July 2022
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WikiCup 2022 July newsletter
The third round of the 2022 WikiCup has now come to an end. Each of the sixteen contestants who made it into the fourth round had at least 180 points, which is a lower figure than last year when 294 points were needed to progress to round 4. Our top scorers in round 3 were:


 * ICS Zulu.svg BennyOnTheLoose, with 746 points, a tally built both on snooker and other sports topics, and on more general subjects.
 * Bloom6132, with 683 points, garnered mostly from "In the news" items and related DYKs.
 * Transgender Pride flag.svg Sammi Brie, with 527, from a variety of submissions related to radio and television stations.

Between them contestants achieved 5 featured articles, 4 featured lists, 51 good articles, 149 DYK entries, 68 ITN entries, and 109 good article reviews. As we enter the fourth round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Please also remember that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them. When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met. Please also remember that all submissions must meet core Wikipedia policies, regardless of the review process.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is a good article nomination, a featured process, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. WikiCup judges: Sturmvogel 66 (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk) MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:51, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

on WAG
Hello! I have two questions I wanted to ask you. First of all, how do you get an article's ranking upgraded (for example a C-article to a B-article)? I only know how to nominate an article for good-article status, and would like to help get more pages to at least B status. I have added competition history to Latynina and Comaneci in hopes that they can soon be nominated for good-article status. That leads me to my second question. I have currently added competition history tables to 9 gymnasts and plan and doing this for many more. It's hard to search through wikipedia sometimes though, so I was wondering if you have any pages you're working on that you see no competition history so that I can add it and people can work on something else. Thanks! :)

TheWAGymFan (talk) 18:52, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, you can change an article's ranking by editing its talk page. At the top of each talk page you'll see the WikiProjects the article is under and if you need to change the ranking, you can change the value for |class= for each WikiProject. As you mentioned you have to nominate an article for GA status, but if it's below a GA you can change the ranking yourself once you've upgraded the article. I can't think of any pages off the top of my head that need competitive history added, but I do know that a lot of pages need to have the style of the competitive history changed. We've been using a different format recently so some of the older pages have the old format for competitive history (ex: Simona Amânar). Thanks for your help! -Riley1012 (talk) 20:01, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Gotcha, thanks! I was very confused by Latynina being considered C-class as opposed to B-class, as well as Onodi being in stub and not start. However, I'm still unsure of how much gymnastics information is required before updating a class so I've steered clear of trying. I also nominated Biles and Comaneci for good-article status so at the very least they can each be reviewed. I also suggested Boginskaya, Chusovitina and Khorkina be considered for vital article status. And also since I saw you wanted to update Flavia, I did end up adding the few competitions missing from her competition history. Also, can you do me a favor if you're able to and fix the color highlight for Nina Bocharova? It seems to have gone over the year and I'm unsure of how to fix that. Thanks for your response :) Still getting used to wikipedia but I'm starting to get it.
 * TheWAGymFan (talk) 20:07, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 * For Latynina I think there needs to be more references and expansion before upgrading it. It's definitely an article I've wanted to work on but I've been focusing on current gymnasts at the moment. Ónodi is definitely at least a start article, I went ahead and changed that. I fixed the Bocharova article, when you have a color highlight for the first competition in a year you just have a basically add another row. Just a couple of notes from the Bocharova article- we don't typically put the location of an Olympics/Worlds in the competitive history, just the name of the event. Also, don't put the reference in the sub-heading, you can put it either below or above the table. It's also best to avoid using Bare URLs as references, you can use Template:Cite web as I just did on the Bocharova page. Thanks again for the help! -Riley1012 (talk) 21:20, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Women in Red August 2022
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Your GA nomination of Lauren Mitchell
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Your GA nomination of Lauren Mitchell
The article Lauren Mitchell you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Lauren Mitchell for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Mike Christie -- Mike Christie (talk) 22:02, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Lauren Mitchell
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Women in Red in September 2022
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WikiCup 2022 September newsletter
The fourth round of the WikiCup has now finished. 383 points were required to reach the final, and the new round has got off to a flying start with all finalists already scoring. In round 4, Bloom6132 with 939 points was the highest points-scorer, with a combination of DYKs and In the news items, followed by BennyOnTheLoose, Sammi Brie and Lee Vilenski. The points of all contestants are swept away as we start afresh for the final round.

At this stage, we say goodbye to the eight competitors who didn't quite make it; thank you for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Wikipedia, and we hope you will join us again next year. For the remaining competitors, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them, and importantly, before the deadline on October 31st!

If you are concerned that your nomination, whether it be for a good article, a featured process, or anything else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. The judges are Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:44, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

WikiProject Women in Green October 2022 Good Article Editathon
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WikiProject Women in Green is holding a  month-long Good Article Editathon event in October 2022!

Running from October 1 to 31, 2022, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) editathon event – Wildcard Edition! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to any and all women and women's works during the event period. Want to improve an article about a Bollywood actress? Go for it. A pioneering female scientist? Absolutely. An award-winning autobiography by a woman? Yes! GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to receive a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.

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Women in Red October 2022
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Women in Red November 2022
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Your GA nomination of Sanne Wevers
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Sanne Wevers you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Buidhe -- Buidhe (talk) 20:21, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

WikiCup 2022 November newsletter
The 2022 WikiCup has drawn to a close with the final round going down to the wire. The 2022 champion is
 * 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Lee Vilenski (1752 points), who won in 2020 and was runner up in both 2019 and last year. In the final round he achieved 3 FAs and 15 GAs, mostly on cue sports. He was closely followed by
 * Bloom6132 (1732), who specialised in "In the news" items and DYKs, and who has reached the final round of the Cup for the past three years. Next was
 * ICS Zulu.svg BennyOnTheLoose (1238), another cue sports enthusiast, also interested in songs, followed by
 * Muboshgu (1082), an "In the news" contributor, a seasoned contestant who first took part in the Cup ten years ago. Other finalists were
 * Transgender Pride flag.svg Sammi Brie (930), who scored with a featured article, good articles and DYKs on TV and radio stations,
 * 🇺🇳 Kavyansh.Singh (370), who created various articles on famous Americans, including an FA on Louis H. Bean, famed for his prediction of election outcomes. Next was
 * PCN02WPS (292), who scored with good articles and DYKs on sporting and other topics and
 * Z1720 (25) who had DYKs on various topics including historic Canadians.

During the WikiCup, contestants achieved 37 featured articles, 349 good articles, 360 featured article reviews, 683 good article reviews and 480 In the news items, so Wikipedia has benefited greatly from the activities of WikiCup competitors. Well done everyone! All those who reached the final round will receive awards and the following special awards will be made, based on high performance in particular areas of content creation and review. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, these prizes are awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round, or the overall leader in this field.


 * 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Lee Vilenski wins the featured article prize, for a total of 6 FAs during the course of the competition and 3 in the final round.
 * 🇺🇳 Kavyansh.Singh wins the featured list prize, for 3 FLs in round 2.
 * Pirate Flag of Jack Rackham.svg Adam Cuerden wins the featured picture prize, for 39 FPs during the competition.
 * Z1720 wins the featured article reviewer prize, for 35 FARs in round 4.
 * Epicgenius wins the good article prize, for 32 GAs in round 1.
 * Flag of Provo, Utah (1989–2015).svg SounderBruce wins the featured topic prize, for 4 FT articles in round 1.
 * 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Lee Vilenski wins the good topic prize, for 34 GT articles in round 5.
 * Transgender Pride flag.svg Sammi Brie wins the good article reviewer prize, for 71 GARs overall.
 * Transgender Pride flag.svg Sammi Brie wins the Did you know prize, for 30 DYKs in round 3 and 106 overall.
 * Bloom6132 wins the In the news prize, for 106 ITNs in round 5 and 289 overall.

Next year's competition will begin on 1 January and possible changes to the rules and scoring are being discussed on the discussion page. You are invited to sign up to take part in the contest; the WikiCup is open to all Wikipedians, both novices and experienced editors, and we hope to have a good turnout for the 2023 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners and finalists, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:28, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Sanne Wevers
The article Sanne Wevers you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Sanne Wevers for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Buidhe -- Buidhe (talk) 11:02, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Sanne Wevers
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Women in Red in December 2022
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Women in Red January 2023
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