User talk:Ritchie333/Archive 109

Pandunia page
Hey you deleted a page for a conlang called Pandunia. The page was somewhat in its infancy since the language was still somewhat new. Based on the discussion for the deletion page, it seems it was deleted because most of the sources were from the website for the conlang itself. However, it has gotten some academic discussion and, given the small size of the conlanging community (especially for auxlangs), it's kinda a major conlang. There's a lot of community support. I hope to do some work on it as well. I was wondering what the process would be to reconsider its deletion since I think it was unfairly deleted and the discussion seemed to be dominated by people who weren't very familiar with the conlanging community — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tr3ndyBEAR (talk • contribs) 15:53, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

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 * Having an article declined at AfC does highlight problems with the process, but with 140 GAs I think I'll cope. Anyway, what exactly is wrong with the article; every sentence is cited to a reputable source and written factually and neutrally. I didn't realise an admin with nearly 100,000 edits is "new", but there you go. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  15:16, 14 March 2020 (UTC)


 * I apologize, but the real problem is the way our AfC templates work.  I've asked many times for these templates to have a preview, so they can be edited before being sent--it would encourage people to actually look at them and modify them as needed.  DGG ( talk ) 06:00, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks for clearing everything up
The backward dates, I mean. I was wrong to insist they go forward and lead somewhere, despite still being right in retrospect. It may not have been difficult, with your suspiciously efficient superspeed, but the setup didn't seem easy. It was a dirty job that didn't need doing, but you did it for the community when everybody else left disappointed on a personal level. If you're ever running for Jimbo's spot, just know you deserve it more than the presumptive heir. He or she will still (presumably) take it, but knowing is half the battle, and half a battle won is impossible to lose. Keep up the medium fight! InedibleHulk (talk) 02:45, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
 * It all boils down to a simple premise - administrators should be removing obstacles to make it easier for the encyclopedia to be improved. In the pre-bit days, I remember saying something like "I don't have a block button, all I've got is communication to make things work". Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  10:35, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Speaking of simple, I'm a dolt. Meant to say this to Rich Farmbrough. On the bright side, you're also cool, just for different reasons! InedibleHulk (talk) 01:12, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Oxford Circus
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Restore Offensive Security or as a draft, if available?
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 * Nevermind, FYI, took care of this already. -- Yae4 (talk) 13:32, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Yeh Rishtey Hain Pyaar Ke leads
Since a long time User:Krish990 consistently adds Rithvik Arora and Kaveri Priyam as Main leads along with the main leads Shaheer Sheikh and Rhea Sharma of Yeh Rishtey Hain Pyaar Ke. Arora and Priyam actually play supporting role and not lead role which is even reflected in the category of their award won. Despite, he keeps specifying them as supporting role, he keeps them adding under main cast section stating their screentime while according to MOS:TVCAST they should come under recurring cast or supporting cast. Can you help me in stopping it as referred by User:Ravensfire Noobie anonymous (talk) 15:00, 16 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Ritchie333, this is a continuation of this report. At that time, Krish990 was edit-warring against a different user, now blocked as a sock.  They've made very few posts discussing this and don't really seem to be interested in anything other than their edit remaining.  I blew up at Krish990 on their talk page and have back away and have zero interest in returning (sorry, just not worth the stress to deal with an editor that doesn't appear to want to collaborate).  Noobie anonymous has tried discussing in a couple of places but there's no real change.  Normally I'd suggest WP:DRN, but I'm just not sure if that's a viable option here. Just my thoughts...  Ravensfire  (talk) 15:26, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Revdel request
Hi Ritchie, could you revdel this addition please? I reverted this morning, but only just noticed that the editor included personal details in the post. Cheers. Chaheel Riens (talk) 17:00, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
 * that revision has been removed. — xaosflux  Talk 17:04, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Elham Valley Railway
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Proposed interaction ban
@User:Richie333. At 21:59 on 6 August 2018 you created a new section on the talk page of the former administrator User:Kudpung titled Baseless and shameful RfA votes. Your edit began: I think it's off-topic for Jbh's RfA, but if somebody dragged Xxanthippe to ANI and proposed a one-way interaction ban with Megalibrarygirl, I would support it. You did not sign this edit but your edit history shows that it was made by you. Can you advise me of the Wikipedia policies that led you to make this proposal for the interaction ban between myself and Megalibrarygirl? Xxanthippe (talk) 03:29, 22 March 2020 (UTC).


 * , since you pinged me - knowing full well I am in semi-retirement - I would certainly be happy to chime in here on Ritchie's behalf. And while you're about it, could you please have the courtesy to finally explain why you found it necessary to mention Wikimania 2020 on the arbcom case. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:05, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
 * This is a bit old to be bringing up again, . What's going on to dredge it back up? I'd completely forgotten about the incident and moved on. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 15:43, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Talk about old news, Xxanthippe. Can you advise us of the Wikipedia policies that led you to pose this question? Liz Read! Talk! 18:19, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
 * The Wikipedia policy invoked is ADMINACCT Administrators are expected to respond promptly and civilly to queries about their Wikipedia-related conduct and administrative actions…. Administrators should justify their actions when requested. Also the ArbCom ruling that led to the desysopping of Betacommand Due to the collaborative nature of Wikipedia, proper communication is extremely important, and all editors are expected to respond to messages intended for them in a timely manner and to constructively discuss controversial issues. This is especially true for administrators in regard to administrative actions. Such expected communication includes: giving appropriate (as guided by Wikipedia's policies and guidelines) warnings prior to, and notification messages following, their actions; using accurate and descriptive edit and administrative action summaries; and responding promptly and fully to all good-faith concerns raised about their administrative actions.  I hope this answers your question. As an ArbCom clerk you have expertise in these matters. Xxanthippe (talk) 05:56, 24 March 2020 (UTC).
 * If ever there were an example of why such a sanction were necessary, dredging up an 18-month-old diff would be it. HJ Mitchell &#124; Penny for your thoughts? 19:33, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
 * What precisely are you trying to prove here, ? And where's the answer to my perfectly polite and legitimate question? Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:46, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

I did not propose any interaction ban, I merely said if somebody else proposed one I would have thought it was a good idea, because you were being annoying and disruptive towards Megalibrarygirl and you needed to stop. There are no administrative actions here. I am currently taking a break from Wikipedia as I have more important things to think about in my life at the moment, such as making sure I still have a job and a place to live, and also making sure my parents don't die of either COVID 19, starvation, or something else caused by a lack of available healthcare. Frankly, if you are concerned about an opinion I stated 18 months ago over all that, you need to get some serious perspective. Ritchie333 (talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  09:55, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I strongly deny that I was being annoying and disruptive towards Megalibrarygirl. I have had only a few interactions with her, and the ones I had were formal and courteous on both sides. Please justify your accusation with diffs or withdraw it. I am sorry that your affairs are being disrupted by COVID-19 pandemic. I am in much the same situation myself. Xxanthippe (talk) 08:21, 25 March 2020 (UTC).
 * WP:IDHT, WP:STICK is relevant reading. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 09:51, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
 * the comment was in an ancient discussion that nobody was likely to look at again - I can't understand why you would choose to bring it up after 18 months, on what I imagine is one of the most-watched talk pages on Wikipedia. I don't think it's reasonable to ask Ritchie333 to dig through all the old discussions that led him to make that comment, especially at a time like this when he's got some very urgent other things going on. You're obviously unhappy about the comments, and I can't see any benefit to more attention than necessary being drawn to them, so I'd suggest you to agree to drop this and that this thread be quickly archived. Cheers Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:script;color:blue;"> (blether)  10:30, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Screwed up ping - what's wrong with my fingers? Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:script;color:blue;"> (blether)  10:31, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree that in the present circumstances it is not reasonable to expect Richie333 to search history for evidence to support his allegation of 24 March. I think that the right thing for him to do is to withdraw the allegation until he is in a position to muster evidence to support it. If he does that then, for my part, I will consider the matter closed until he or anybody else chooses to reopen it. Xxanthippe (talk) 04:18, 26 March 2020 (UTC).
 * I think what is going on here is that the coronavirus-induced lockdowns, self-quarantines, fear for one's economic situation or one's own (or relatives') health is causing people to become tetchy and argumentative. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 10:47, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Ironically, I'm on the front lines of this and I've been pleasantly surprised how people have understood. We closed medical offices, consolidated care and shut down our corporate offices. Shit was nuts the first fewq days last week then it calmed down. Good points and yeah maybe it is an issue here to be mindful of. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 10:50, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Xxanthippe, please do not post on my talk page ever again. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  20:45, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Destubathon
Your 40 score for England will take some beating! Penny and Kosack are about to overtake you though in counties done! The Great Britain and Ireland Destubathon/Scoreboard. I'm planning on running one for the SouthEast in May but only 10 days. I think it's best we run these contests for no more than 10 days in future and we can do more of them and remain comfortable doing it. It's difficult to commit to something every day for a month but 10 days you can really go for it and hope for the best. I'm thinking of doing two 10 day ones for the SouthEast and London in the summer.♦ Dr. Blofeld  12:48, 14 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, a major pandemic and financial and personal crisis is exactly the thing that would cause me to slam on the brakes and evaluate my priorities in life. Sorry. :-( <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  14:13, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

It's a horrible time at the moment. Bad timing as you were doing so well. I'm doing twice the amount of exercise I normally do at the moment to stay focused and not feel depressed! The Destubathon is on target, it's been a fantastically beneficial thing. Good to hear from you.♦ Dr. Blofeld  15:06, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

User:Flix11‎
I wanted to ask, for what edit-war was he banned for?? Govvy (talk) 17:34, 28 March 2020 (UTC)


 * The Amazing Spider-Man and Palme. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  17:37, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I hardly think that warrants a ban, for one he didn't violate 3RR on Palme, also on the Spider-Man article, yes Flix broke the 3RR rule, however he was reverting someone who was adding unsourced content. I don't think he did that much wrong, a warning should of been more than enough, a ban seems excessive to me. Govvy (talk) 18:05, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
 * "Flix broke the 3RR rule, however he was reverting someone who was adding unsourced content - and since that's not one of the exemptions listed, a block is allowed per policy. See the related discussion here. Reverting content repeatedly without communication is disruptive, and blocking someone from editing that page for a duration to force them to discuss their differences is appropriate. (To clarify, he's not banned, he's simply blocked from editing The Amazing Spider-Man (TV series)). <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  18:10, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
 * This (especially brief) block should help facilitate article talk page discussion which, hopefully, will soon resolve this dispute amicably. El_C 18:14, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, I reverted one IP twice, it never went to the talk page! Nor provided a source for me. Just looked disruptive on my watchlist. Govvy (talk) 18:23, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
 * In eaxh case, they were reverting material that had already been reverted by someone else, and in at least one case, was to be reverted again by someone else. And while WP:3RRNO obviously does not apply, when one editor is maintaining a s status quo that is clearly favoured by other editors, the simplest—and most popular, I'm sure—solution would have been a semi for the pages concerned and a note dropped on the over-enthusiastic ediotors talk. After all, just because something is allowed by policy doesn't make it the first resort. ——  SN  54129  18:34, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
 * We don't usually semiprotect due to just one IP, but fair point. El_C 18:51, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Greyfriars, Winchelsea
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You give up?
Sorry to see it. Good luck. Bishonen &#124; tålk 00:31, 27 March 2020 (UTC).
 * From me as well. Sorry to hear the fog has descended ... it does seem we live in especially uninspiring times of late. Go well. JG66 (talk) 04:28, 27 March 2020 (UTC)


 * sad whatever it is, will miss you and the hammond cat --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:01, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

I don't think "retiring" is the right answer; I'm not motivated to contribute much at the moment but I hope that will change. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  09:00, 27 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Real life is always more important, especially in these uncertain times. Wish you all the best. <b style="color:#CCCC00">Joseph</b><b style="color:#00FF00">2302</b> (talk) 11:28, 27 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Take care, Ritchie. I hope to see you back in better times. Hopefully we'll be manage a pint when this is all over, however long that might take. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 12:32, 27 March 2020 (UTC)


 * I'm just baffled at how many times I've been templated bombed in the past week, having very rarely happened before. I know full well what that sort of treatment does to newcomers, and being repeatedly hit by it, even as an experienced editor, is disillusioning in the extreme. Combine that with my personal situation, and just amazed at how I've managed to (mostly) hold my tongue on this. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  12:45, 27 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Sorry to see you go, Ritchie. I really hope this is just temporary and that you return someday. We regardless will miss you. Best regards, <b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 18:07, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Just got a notification that I’ve made 100,000 edits. Well I never... <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  12:01, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

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DYK for Queen Bess, Scunthorpe
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Happy Easter or whatever you celebrate
or: the resurrection of loving-kindness - You may like this, about tears. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:16, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Repeated removal of the date of a marriage
Strictly speaking, removing dates and citations is vandalism. Edit summaries like “trim” and “undid edit” are not explanations. Moonraker (talk) 23:52, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
 * If that was true, a number of longtime editors would be banned, such as Andy Mabbett.<b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  04:34, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Pink cat
I'm sorry, Ritchie. I realize that you were passionate about this article. But consensus is consensus. -- MelanieN (talk) 15:27, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
 * That’s fine, if people don’t want me to contribute here I’ll find other things to do. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  04:36, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Oxford Circus
--valereee (talk) 00:01, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

The 50,000 Destubbing Challenge
July 6 -12 Ritchie, a focus on London, hope you're around then! Stay safe!† Encyclopædius  16:14, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

50,000 Destubbing Challenge Focus of the Week
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Hammond
I posted the Foto of the Tonegenerator because there is no Foto of the Tonewheel on this site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterbecker2000 (talk • contribs) 16:20, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The problem is that the Hammond organ article already has a lot of images and there's not too much space for any more. We could start a talk page discussion about which pictures to keep and which ones to leave out if that would help? <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  11:28, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Old Kent Road
You reverted an edit that I made (literally "one of the two" -> "the") on the page Old Kent Road. Your edit summary was, and I quote "disruptive". What are you smoking and can I get some? You may think that the edit summary itself is "disruptive", but I fail to see how making a minor and sensible change to the article is. Which is clearer? Saying that this Monopoly property is "the" cheapest or "one of the two" cheapest? OK, so maybe it's the second cheapest? In which case why not say that? Ambiguity is bad mmmkay?

Now, I'm going to revert your revert. And if you don't like it, you'll take it to the talk page. I'll help you out, I'll start a section for you...


 * Your edit summary was abusive and your change was wrong - both Old Kent Road and Whitechapel Road are both £60 on the stock Monopoly board. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  19:11, 17 April 2020 (UTC)


 * "Oh, the language! "Ride me sideways", was another one!" Martinevans123 (talk) 13:09, 11 May 2020 (UTC)


 * "Dinge dong every hour, when you pick a flower..." Martinevans123 (talk) 20:22, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

City Thameslink
Hi. I'm sorry we clearly had a disagreement about some of the content for this article. I have started a new Talk Page section at Talk:City Thameslink railway station and invite you to take part. Hopefully discussion there will help us reach a consensus. --Peeky44 What's on your mind? 09:36, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't think one revert is a disagreement; more a request to leave the status quo for a minute until we have a discussion about it. I'll have a read of the talk page thread and get back to you. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  17:07, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Shepherds Bush Road
Can you find enough for a new article? Hope you're feeling well and not too stressed out for COVID right now! Blythe Road also looks like it could be worthy.† Encyclopædius  19:09, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The London Encyclopedia has nothing; Shepherd's Bush is a relative latecomer to London history and still was a small village in 1839 and still partially rural through the 19th century. The main roads at the time were Uxbridge Road and Goldhawk Road, both originating from Roman times. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  17:12, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

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Potential edit war
Hi! Can you help here? I have followed your reverting and must now stop (3 R's) Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:43, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I can have a look on the talk, but I can't take any admin action on an article I improved to GA, per WP:INVOLVED. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  12:32, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I got this. Pictogram voting support.svg Fully protected&#32;for a period of one week, after which the page will be automatically unprotected.. El_C 12:35, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

The Who tour articles (again)
Ritchie333, you previously said an article on the Who's Sell Out Tour wasn't necessary. However, there is a lot to say about the tour, including more information you didn't mention in your description on List of The Who tours and performances. If you like, I could start working on the article in a draft. Chrisnait (talk &#124; contribs) 19:01, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I think the problem is that the tours were just gigs without specifically promoting an album; that concept didn't really exist. The '67 gigs (first US shows with Murray the K, Monterey, Smothers Brothers, Moon driving a car into a swimming pool) that predate the album were probably more significant than the gigs afterwards, which were just slogging it out through the US for much of the year building a fanbase, which ultimately succeeded. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  15:56, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, I said I'm working on the Who By Numbers tour in February. However, I lost interest shortly after, but now, I'm back to work on the article. It will be coming out within the month of June I predict. Chrisnait (talk &#124; contribs) 17:30, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The Who by Numbers Tour article is done. Chrisnait (talk &#124; contribs) 18:13, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I put the page up for peer review. Could you please have a look at it when you have a moment? Thanks, Chrisnait (talk &#124; contribs) 22:00, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Keyboards
Hello Ritchie333. I see you're back. I trust everything worked out OK for you. Did you find time to read the book? regards Docrobbie. Docrobbie (talk) 07:53, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I did. Very interesting book that sheds a bit of new light on some of my favourite keyboards. I'll certainly use it as a go-to source for any future improvements on articles in this area. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  17:07, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Good to hear you're on deck. Does that mean that some of MrOllie's deletions can be reversed?Docrobbie (talk) 09:15, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * You'll have to remind me what they are, but in a nutshell I would consider your book to be a reliable source and if anyone gives you a hard time over you being a subject expert, I'll have a word with them. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  15:57, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. The articles I added Classic Keys to, as a bibliography entry, were the Wikipedia pages corresponding to each of the hero instruments featured in the book's chapters. Docrobbie (talk) 00:23, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, I've used the book to add some longstanding missing facts on Rhodes Piano just now, including production dates for the student models which I didn't previously have, and the distinction between the fibreglass and plastic tops. This looks like one of the most useful sources on this topic; hopefully I'll now get a couple of evenings to do a lot more on this. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  09:10, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Ritchie333. I note that MrOllie has removed a Classic Keys reference from the (Hohner) Pianet page also. Rodak98 is the world authority on combo-organs, among other keyboard interests, and not one of the Classic Keys authors.Docrobbie (talk) 06:21, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

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Rollback and RfA
Regarding your edit here, I'd just like to mention that I find the whole rollback/undo process to be excessively complicated, and a clear case of feature creep. I'm sure I've misused them many times in the past. They are similar features, with names which give no indication of how they differ from each other. The idea that we would pillory somebody at RfA for incorrect use of these really just points out how bad the whole RfA process is. I know several excellent editors who work in project-management areas who would make excellent admins. I've made them offers to nominate them, but the answer is usually that they're not interested because they don't want to expose themselves to the sort of public abuse RfA is famous for. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:36, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Regading your comment here, I believe there was once an RfA, many years ago, where somebody hinted that maybe they preferred vanilla over chocolate ice cream, and people gave him a pass on it. It was a shocking lapse of community prudence.   -- RoySmith (talk) 13:44, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree with everything you said here. The problem I've had with Bbb23 is a) I don't get involved in sockpuppetry so I have no opinion on the quality of the work they do there except to trust other people that it is good, and b) On the handful of occasions I have communicated with Bbb23, I have discovered they tend to revert questions they don't want to answer. So I thought (albeit thought incorrectly, and is on-point that my comment could be misconstrued as trolling) that asking a straightforward question where policy is ambiguous should get a straightforward answer; I just wasn't entirely confident of getting one. (And hence those answering for Bbb23 are kind of missing the point I was getting at). <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)  <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  13:47, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I know you don't like rollback and don't use it Ritchie, but I think you're missing the point of the ROLLBACKUSE guideline. That's for when you use rollback with the generic, automatic edit summary that doesn't tell anyone why you are rolling back. If you replace it with your own edit summary, like Bbb23 did in the example you gave, it really doesn't matter if it's rollback, undo, or manual.-- P-K3 (talk) 14:05, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * And that's fine, and it's not normally a question I would think about asking. However, the editor who was reverted might well have cause to question it on Bbb23's talk page, and from my experience I would suspect the question to be reverted without comment. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  14:13, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Electronic badge CSD G5 declined
Why was it declined? "This criterion applies regardless of the quality of the page in question (see also Wikipedia:Banning policy#Bans apply to all editing, good or bad)." Sockpuppet_investigations/Dwaro/Archive. Special:Log/block&page=User%3AElfinshadow. Those two are CONFIRMED connected. Page was created in December 2019 and Elfinshadow was blocked in February 2019, therefore, it meets deletion criteria under "To qualify, the edit or page must have been made while the user was actually banned or blocked . A page created before the ban or block was imposed or after it was lifted will not qualify under this criterion." Graywalls (talk) 07:09, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * A full search of 's talk page archives will reveal the full picture, and the criteria has been controversial since day one, but essentially, G5 developed from a shouting match between Jimbo Wales and Gregory Kohs of MyWikiBiz fame. Kohs kept writing articles about maybe notable businesses saying "come and have a go if you think you're hard enough", and an irritated Jimbo ban-hammered him. In the case of this article, I was interested in the topic and wanted to have a go at improving it. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  17:39, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, remember that admins are allowed to decline speedies, even if the page does fit the criteria. That seems to be something a lot of users forget. Adam9007 (talk) 17:55, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * What they said. Speedy deletion is explicitly only for pages that are so obviously inappropriate for Wikipedia that they have no chance of surviving a deletion discussion (not some personal opinion I've just plucked out, but a verbatim quote from Deletion policy). Given that the only occasions in which a page eligible for WP:G5 deletion would ever be inappropriate are circumstances such as blatant spam or obvious vandalism, all of which are existing speedy deletion criteria in their own right, the circumstances in which it's necessary to use the G5 tag as anything other than an supplimentary tag as a courtesy to the reviewing admin that the page creator isn't in a position to address the issues that make the page eligible for G11 (or whatever) are vanishingly rare. If you find yourself using db-G5 as a stand-alone deletion criterion more than once a year, then unless you're a checkuser or an employee of T&S you're almost certainly misusing it. &#8209; Iridescent 07:57, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * What they said. Speedy deletion is explicitly only for pages that are so obviously inappropriate for Wikipedia that they have no chance of surviving a deletion discussion (not some personal opinion I've just plucked out, but a verbatim quote from Deletion policy). Given that the only occasions in which a page eligible for WP:G5 deletion would ever be inappropriate are circumstances such as blatant spam or obvious vandalism, all of which are existing speedy deletion criteria in their own right, the circumstances in which it's necessary to use the G5 tag as anything other than an supplimentary tag as a courtesy to the reviewing admin that the page creator isn't in a position to address the issues that make the page eligible for G11 (or whatever) are vanishingly rare. If you find yourself using db-G5 as a stand-alone deletion criterion more than once a year, then unless you're a checkuser or an employee of T&S you're almost certainly misusing it. &#8209; Iridescent 07:57, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

A7 shops
Hi,

Are you sure about this? Shops are organisations, and the article makes it clear that it's a company. Adam9007 (talk) 20:21, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy deletion should only be reserved for unambiguous cases where the article hasn't got a chance of surviving an AfD and sending it there is a waste of everyone's time. That's not the case here. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  08:59, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

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Featured article candidates/Meghan Trainor/archive2
Hi, the Meghan Trainor article (which you GA-reviewed) is currently FA nominated and I would appreciate any comments you could post there. Thank you.--<b style="color:purple">N</b><b style="color:teal">Ø</b> 07:13, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

"A source must be permanently available"
Hey, I noticed you removed a source in the London Paddington station article - a tv show - for "A source must be permanently available". I was under the impression that isn't the case, as per WP:OFFLINE and other WP:RECENT details. The TV show has "made available to the public in some form", and therefore may be a valid source, that's why a previous editor added it! :)

Furthermore, you deleted information (such as Heathrow Connect) that can easily have been verified by clicking through to the relevant (reasonably well sourced) article. Again, I was under the impression that "material whose verifiability is challenged or likely to be challenged" should be attributed. Instead of deleting the information, a citation needed tag would have been more appropriate if you felt that it needed verifying? Best wishes, Turini2 (talk) 22:40, 30 June 2020 (UTC)


 * It’s a good article. If you do that, it will fail the criteria and somebody might delist it. So the standards are higher. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  23:45, 30 June 2020 (UTC)


 * PS, sorry about the other day, I think I was just tired (not surprising at it was nearly 1am). <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  21:55, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Administrators Noticeboard link
I've noted the change you made to the blocking policy here in order to ensure more admins are aware of the changes.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 21:04, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Yasser Desai
Hello I was trying to create wikipedia page of Yasser Desai where I found that the latest deletion was by you, I am Intending to recreate the page as I find sufficient wp:sigcov and wp:rs to pass wp:musicbio, can you please restore the last version of it so that I can re edit it in WP parameters. Thanks  Dtt1 Talk  17:07, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Done, now at Draft:Yasser Desai. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  17:27, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks  Dtt1 Talk  07:38, 8 July 2020 (UTC)


 * hello : I just have re edited the complete article Draft:Yasser Desai can you please review this. Thanks  Dtt1 Talk  08:25, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Sirjohnperrot
At a fairly early stage in the recent ANI discussion relating to Sirjohnperrot, I expressed support for a block. However, things moved on, and Sirjohnperrot did seem to make significant progress towards being willing to change, including accepting mentorship. I therefore think that giving him another chance is reasonable, and I considered withdrawing my support. Nevertheless, I have my doubts about the way you closed it. You started off saying that you "spent half an hour reading through this thread", and that having done so you were heading for "summing things up with a block". You then went on to say that you "went back through Sirjohnperrot's recent contributions", and that as a result of what you saw there, you decided to "close this thread with no further action at this stage". How is that not saying that what you saw in the discussion was a consensus to block, but that, on the basis of your own opinion, not on the basis of what you saw in that discussion, you decided to overrule that consensus? That is the way it looks to me, and if so then you should not have made the close, but should instead have contributed to the discussion, supporting closing without further action. JBW (talk) 21:07, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Originally I was planning to just leave a comment recommending no further action, which is why I made this correction (as I was no longer referring to something "above"). However, the thread's been open nearly a week, and I detected a distinct shift of opinion away from what the consensus earlier in the week. If you'd changed your mind, chances are other people were going to be thinking the same. And while we could gather more opinions and get a fresh consensus, I thought the simplest and easiest thing to do is just close it. If there's any problems down the line, well blocks are cheap. I think things have settled down now and we're up one productive editor, so I'm not expecting anything to happen. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  21:38, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

New to reviewing
Hello there! I see that you are a mentor for people who want to be helped in reviewing articles for GA status. I was looking to review one of the older nominations, Guy Ritchie. Would you mind assisting me on the review since this will be my first go at reviewing? ⑉⑉ Mccunicano ☕️  02:27, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure, I can help. I had a quick look at the article and aside from one dangling missing citation, everything seems to be referenced, and no source leaps out as being unsuitable, and the prose looks pretty readable and comprehensive, though I haven't read everything in depth. If you've got any further questions, let me know. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  19:05, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I added a review, everything on the GA List seemed to be in order aside from the missing reference. For future reviews, if there's just one issue standing out like that should I just be bold and fix it before reviewing? There's an article I found that mentions those Razzie awards the subject garnered .  ⑉⑉ Mccunicano  ☕️  23:11, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I tend to copyedit and fix stuff as I go along, stopping to ask questions where I'm not sure how to proceed. Other reviewers, such as, prefer to leave comments for everything from dash fixes upwards. Either way is fine.
 * The review seems quite short at the moment. Although I enjoy picking up GA reviews where I am confident the nominator is a longtime writer and it's going to be good, there are always questions you can ask about the prose. For example, the opening sentence of the second paragraph says "film" three times in short succession; "his directorial debut in a feature film" could be rephrased as "his feature-length directorial debut". And do we need to list his marriages (particularly the second, to a non-notable person) in the lead? <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  09:44, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that suggestion. I think I would prefer fixing any minor issues myself, while recommending some fixes to the nominator.  ⑉⑉ Mccunicano  ☕️  00:03, 12 July 2020 (UTC)