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Women in Red World Contest
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Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda
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Oi, Threesie.... Hoping that Christmas may bless you with peace, love and understanding... and wishing that you have a good run in 2018!!

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There's a moose loose aboot this hoose....
Is Cherry Wainer a possible candidate for The Big List?? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:40, 27 December 2017 (UTC)


 * ...and, sorry if I've asked this before, but.... In the Land of Prey and Oink credits Dave Sinclair with only "organ, piano, Mellotron, harmony vocals". Is there really no synthesizer there? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:33, 2 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Nope, I can't hear any, the main keyboard instrument on "Nine Feet Underground" is a Hammond A-100 through a fuzzbox and Marshall amp. Same with Genesis before Selling England...., it's all a Hohner Pianet through fuzz. (I am, however, not a reliable source so I might have just made all that up). As for Cherry Wainer, yes, it can go in. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  13:36, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Cheers, Mr Pianoman. Yes, it was "Nine Feet Underground" mainly. I guess it's the fuzzbox that threw me. A good source would be a real boon. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:39, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Like this, perhaps? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  13:48, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Impressed, as ever. I guess that's too general for the ITLOGAP article? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:55, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
 * p.s. now showing at an unbuilt NHS hospital near you... altogether now.... "My Theresa Will Go On". Martinevans123 (talk) 22:58, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Hope you enjoy this gem. Didn't realise that she already had a very tidy article. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:23, 6 January 2018 (UTC) ...this one is strangely hypnotic, almost good!

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Copyvios
While reviewing new pages I have come across editor Rikhiyart. He creates articles about Indian soaps and suchlike, has a complete disregard for copyright, including a plot summary copypasted from a source into each article at his first edit. I have been nominating some for speedy deletion but I have now come across Premer Kahini (TV series) which is not quite so clearcut. The plot summary is there at great length, but the apparent source only has a couple of sentences. From the style of the plot summary, I am sure it is a copypaste, but cannot prove it, though I suppose theoretically, the two sentences that are there would be enough for G12. I also think you might consider blocking this editor. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:30, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I blocked. Might seem a bit overkill, but he's had far too many copyvio warnings now and the message hasn't sunk in. What we really need is more admins from India and Pakistan who understand the subject material to be able to handle it appropriately. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  11:38, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Ten Schools Admissions Organization
Ritchie, I reverted your CSD removal there. That's not something I would do lightly. You've clearly misinterpreted the A7 restriction. First, the restriction is for schools, not educational institutions. Clearly this is not a school. It isn't even an educational institution. It's an association of 10 private schools, with the sole purpose of screening admissions for them. The A7 restriction no more applies here than it would to an athletic conference. I'm asking that you reassess your position and either delete it, pass it on to another admin or articulate a different reason. It appears you agree it needs to go as you attempted to PROD it (you mangled the prod, but no biggie there). Thanks, and no disrespect intended. John from Idegon (talk) 20:06, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:A7 explicitly mentions "educational institutions", and it's best to err on the side of inclusion with the deletion criteria. I can't see any way of rescuing the article, so I think a PROD should suffice, and I was busy trying to do NPP with one hand and eat ice cream with the other, so that's my excuse for bodging the tag. Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  20:44, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Speedy delete of Eshet Tourist Services Ltd
Hi, Ritchie333. I am asking you to reconsider your deletion of he Eshet Tourist Services Ltd article, and/or offer me feedback on causes for the deletion and means to improve this article. See below talk with Kudpung, who flagged post for deletion- he directed me to you. Briefly, I had no intention to make this article promotional and ensured I included references and content covering the controversy regarding how Eshet Tours secured a monopoly on Israel's Public Sector vacationing. I believe that given the size of the company, the importance of tourism to Israel for millions of Wiki users, and the little appreciated impact the Israeli public sector has on shaping the the tourism market, Eshet Tours meets the required notability benchmark and that reviewing it is justified.

"Hi, I was unable to respond to your speedy deletion nomination tag before the Eshet Tourist Services Ltd article I posted was shot down (given that this seems to have happened within minutes of the flagginf). I noted you flagged it as "promotional". I want to make it clear out front that I am not, and never have been, employed or in any business relationship with Eshet Tours and that my only contact with them has been as a reasonably (one time) satisfied customer who took the time to look into their mode of operations. Furthermore, I thought I adopted carefully neutral phrasing throughout the article, and also provided sources and pointed out the controversy surrounding the manner in which Eshet Tours secured a near monopoly on Israel's public sector vacations.

I therefore do not understand why you flagged down this article as promotional. I would appreciate your feedback and any advice on how this article, in which I invested a considerable chunk of my private time, can be made acceptable.

I understand that the issue of notability might also apply to this type of article. However, Eshet Tours is not a "garage company" - it is one the largest tourist companies in Israel with hundreds of employees and hundreds of thousands of customers per year which has been independently covered by the media in the references I provided. Furthermore, the field it is active in - tourism to Israel, is one that is of major interest and activity of millions of Wiki users, Jewish and otherwise. Knowledge of the market forces affecting this field (such as the aforementioned monopoly over Israeli public sector tourism) seems to me to be of interest to these users.

Looking forward to your feedback,

Yboxman (talk) 12:47, 7 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi . It was actually deleted by . Both of us being admins, it was the right thing to do at the time, but having listened to your explanation, I would need Ritchie's consent to restore it. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:24, 7 January 2018 (UTC)


 * I have restored this to User:Yboxman/Eshet Tourist Services Ltd so the text can be retrieved and it can be worked on. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  20:45, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * I like the username - it brings a whole new perspective to the line "Imagine no possessions ... it's easy if you try" (because the State has got them all)., are we allowed to say any of this or will Putin arrange an "accident" in a car park? <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  21:56, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * The President has confirmed that you are of course free to say as you wish. As a gesture of his magnanimity he has asked if you would like a bowl of soup. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 02:52, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Put a tick in the appropriate box, There's nothing to it Martinevans123 (talk) 22:08, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * ...do you, Michael Francis Ritchie, renounce Satan and all his works...?! ;)  >SerialNumber  54129 ...speculates 22:23, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * The name was a mistake, but lets just pretend that I am uber clever, not a terrible speller.
 * As an American, I support Putin. I lived in Moscow for a year. Ukraine for 2.5. Imaginelenin (talk) 13:32, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Congratulations, Did you now nomination for an article you wrote!
Template:Did you know nominations/Arrest of Mark Kaminsky and Harvey Bennett Imaginelenin (talk) 13:32, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

I'm retiring
See:

Another article Good Germans was put up for deletion 4 minutes after I created it by User:Arthistorian1977:


 * "'Notability purges' are being executed throughout Wikipedia by empire-building, wannabe tin-pot dictators masquerading as humble editors."
 * "There are some people on Wikipedia now who are just bullies, who take pleasure in wrecking ...They poke articles full of warnings and citation-needed notes and deletion prods till the topics go away.
 * -- The Charms of Wikipedia By Nicholson Baker The New York Review of Books.

Don't these passive aggressive editors understand that they are only hurting wikipedia in the long run? Imaginelenin (talk) 14:58, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * See this and this - I have heard complaints about Wikipedia's deletion process for ten years from people, my partner even wrote a song about one of the (now-retired) deleting admins! Indeed, complaining about the deletion system and standing up to it is the principal reason I became an admin in the first place. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)  <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  15:05, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * In all fairness,, how was that an A11? I could find two articles in RS from the very 1st page of a G-search that discusses the term and unless you believe that those were written by the author.....! Winged Blades Godric 15:22, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * The articles in G-search are having only passing mentions and we are talking about such broad definition, I expect to see academic researches and books, but not just 2 NYT articles. Half of the articles I see are talking about resistance to Nazi regime and half about Germans being passive. I believe that making of encyclopedical article for such not easy topic requires historical and scientific proof. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 15:29, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * CSD≠AFD. Winged Blades Godric 15:31, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, I agree that I was too fast in my judgment for CSD, but I still positive that in it's current form the article is useless, since there is no single definition for "Good Germans". Arthistorian1977 (talk) 15:34, 8 January 2018 (UTC)


 * The topic is quite notable as entire books have been written about it. The article currently talks of "people ... who observe reprehensible things taking place ... but remain silent, neither raising objections nor taking steps to change the course of events".  These events here were reprehensible as neither the A1 or A11 were at all appropriate.  Arthistorian1977 has the NPR right and that privilege states that "Additionally, it can be revoked at any time by an administrator without any process or prior notice in any of the following circumstances: ... The editor has demonstrated a pattern of failing to exercise sufficient care when reviewing pages, resulting in new users being offended or discouraged." Andrew D. (talk) 15:26, 8 January 2018 (UTC)


 * If you can show me a couple of other cases where Arthistorian1977 has recently and definitely abused the NPR right, I can remove it. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  15:37, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I have limited time but here's another fresh example from earlier today: American intervention in Libya. This is ludicrous – just consider the Marines' Hymn, "From the Halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli". Andrew D. (talk) 15:48, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I am absolutely positive that American intervention in Libya is 100% proper AfD. As for Good Germans, I've already apologized for making too fast decision. I think that one count of bad judgment out of 4000+ reviews in the past year may speak on my behalf. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 16:00, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I am absolutely positive that Arthistorian1977 has failed to consider alternatives to deletion per WP:BEFORE. The US has regularly intervened in Libya since the days of the Barbary pirates when most of the Federal budget went on buying them off.  For examples of more fully developed pages see 1986 United States bombing of Libya and 2011 military intervention in Libya. Andrew D. (talk) 16:09, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * My initial thoughts are that article should be re-appropriated to summarise all US conflict and intervention in Libya, which spans back decades. The current article probably needs to be WP:TNTed, but that doesn't mean it should be deleted, it should be improved. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  16:11, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree with WP:TNT, but isn't AfD a discussion? It wasn't frivolous nomination, but an initiation of discussion. In it's current form it's a list of airstrikes with 90% of information without proper sourcing. But still, we're not talking about this specific article here, but about my supposed ineligibility as NPR, because of alleged abusing of NRP rights :( Arthistorian1977 (talk) 16:19, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * It's a discussion, but only one that should be initiated when all other possibilities of trying to improve, redirect or transwiki the article have been exhausted and it's impossible to do anything with it. WP:ATD is policy. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  16:41, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * There is Libya–United States relations, which is perfect candidate for expansion in this case. It contains the information about US interventions up to 2014, so I don't think an independent article is needed for 2016 and 2017 interventions. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 16:56, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Also, Libyan Civil War (2014–present) contains section on foreign interventions in current Libyan conflict. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 16:59, 8 January 2018 (UTC)


 * I took the time to break down how his tag of A1 was absolutely inappropriate on arthistorians tp, and so was of A11. A11 doesn't also apply to items that have a claim of significance (which this article plainly does) Galobtter (pingó mió) 15:28, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

I watch this page and, when I saw the heading 'I'm retiring' thought it might have been written by Ritchie... Thankfully I see not. However, on reading I see that I too have an example where Arthistorian has AfD'd one of my recent creations, Jack Croft Baker, nom'd earlier today. He was knighted, had a CBE and was president of an industry association; he has an obituary in the Times and an entry in Who's Who. Bizarre AfD, but the second time in a week that an obviously notable article I've created has been AfD'd without justification (the other was for Murdo Maclean; it was CSD'd by someone else). I've never had this happen before, so it's a bit dumbfounding. —Noswall59 (talk) 17:09, 8 January 2018 (UTC).
 * Having CBE and obituary in the Times does not automatically grant notability. Being local politian does not grant notability per WP:POLITICIAN and he is a president of industry association that does not have its own Wikipedia article. Regarding Murdo Maclean, it was CSD'ed by User:Reddogsix and the CSD was removed by User:Galobtter, based on fact he was knighted. There is a difference between Knight Commander of an order and Knight Bachelor, the lowest of all knighthoods in UK. Such knighthood requires additional support for notability claim. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 17:25, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I know that having a CBE is not in itself sufficient to confer notability (although the conferral of a knighthood generally is a substantial state honour and thus held to confer notability under WP:ANYBIO); what I am suggesting is that all of these things (knighthood, CBE, Times obit, Who's Who entry, public work) in combination indicate notability. Indeed, on its own I believe an obituary in The Times is a very good indicator, but if you can show me cases where it is deemed insufficient do let me know. And, to clarify, I am not trying to suggest his career in local politics is the basis of his notability, so WP:POLITICIAN has little to do with this. Anyway, this discussion is really for the AfD and your NPR conduct is for the ANI discussion Ritchie has created (see below). Cheers, —Noswall59 (talk) 17:40, 8 January 2018 (UTC).
 * That's an excellent example. As I understand it, the NPR right was created specifically so that it could be taken away from trigger-happy patrollers.  In this case, the article was nominated for deletion just 14 mins after it was created.  Andrew D. (talk) 17:21, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * indication of significance
 * Lack of significance is the standard for A7, not notability (14 minutes for tagging is reasonable IMO if there is no real indication it is being expanded, though) I didn't say he was notable. I removed the csd because there were extremely good claims of significance nearing that of notability (just one last comment)Galobtter (pingó mió) 17:35, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Personally, I would be AfDing this article, but since I wasn't the one, who CSDed it and I am the one currently being accused of abusing NPR rights, I don't care for that article. I have nothing to do with it, so I am washing my hands here. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 17:39, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

To avoid clogging up my talk page, I've drop-kicked this discussion to ANI - WP:ANI. I'm not going to notify individual parties as everyone involved is reading this thread. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  17:29, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * And to muddy the waters, I've moved it to Wikipedia_talk:New_pages_patrol/Reviewers. Primefac (talk) 17:39, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

lists
Hi. I recently AfD'ed an article. Till that comment in the discussion, I was not aware there are articles like "list of songs recorded by blah bla blah". Regarding that particular instance, we have an article for the artist, and an article for their discography. I think whatever exists in the list article, should be merged/covered in the discography article. That being said, I also think this should happen to all the similar "list of songs" articles. What are your opinions regarding that? — <span class="monospaced" style="font-family: monospace, monospace;">usernamekiran (talk)  14:05, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Leave the AfD to run for the minute and see what consensus says. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  19:10, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I closed the AfD as "withdrawn by the nominator", whoever that was. I was planning to take it to village pump lol. But turns out, if the artist is good, then merging the list to discography is not a good idea. — <span class="monospaced" style="font-family: monospace, monospace;">usernamekiran (talk)  18:36, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Soho
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 * Homage must be paid to for doing the initial groundwork on improving the article and nagging me to do something with it. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)  <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  14:04, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Great job Ritchie and thankyou for reviewing it, hope you're both well.♦  Dr. Blofeld  14:33, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Aww, you have a fan club!
Coming across the wires at WP:AIV today (and already blocked);. You have a fan club :) --Hammersoft (talk) 16:00, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Looks like a co-incidence; I'm hardly the only person answering to "Ritchie" on this planet and who had to type in a few numbers to get a unique username once (way before Wikipedia, which I just re-used). <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  16:07, 3 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Count me in your fan club ;) - Would you have time to look at your DYK nom, the one with the high number? - Celebrate: my 100th women's bio is on the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:37, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
 * The cheek if it. Martinevans124 {talk) 16:55, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
 * There was a famous person who asked "What is truth?" - It's true that I brought "spirit and mind, heart, soul and courage" to today's Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:30, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I just bring boring flat roads in the middle of nowhere.... <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  10:36, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, all credit goes to Mr. Gerhardt, of course. Love the cat. I have two more good titles in the pipeline, "sing a new song" and "friendly vision", in other words: happy 2018! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:09, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Don't miss to click on the 2018 wishes once more, and now we do have new songs, a friendly vision, and even began the tool of peace ;) - my mom's birthday.

Well, this just motivates me to create and go about writing seditious truths about you ;) --Hammersoft (talk) 17:01, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Carry on like that and you'll find yourself buried in concrete under the Hammersoft Flyover. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  13:49, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, Hammer, I'd proceed a little more gingerly, if I were you. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:57, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Ooooooh I see now....there really is a cabal! And they're all redheads! And they're all members of the British Mafia! 3 more days until my doom! I'd better find another way to work other than the A4. --Hammersoft (talk) 17:44, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh that's easy, grab the training material for The Knowledge, then you'll be able to see you can go along Chiswick High Road and High Street, Kensington instead. Still, it's surprising how many notable streets make up the A4 to the extent we need a category for them all. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  17:51, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * So what you're saying is, don't take the road you threatened to bury me in, and instead take another route...that you recommend. Ummm... I think I'll walk, thanks :) --Hammersoft (talk) 18:05, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Nah, take the District Line. On a more serious note, if I can ever get the User:Ritchie333/London termini project finished, I may spin off A4 in London (we already have A1 in London) so I can make a good topic out of it. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  18:06, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Being the current victim of a never ending construction project (the suffering won't end now until 2027), the idea that any construction project...or article commenting on it...could be completed is farcical. Good luck with that :) --Hammersoft (talk) 18:14, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I'll see you chaps on the Great West Road? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:32, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Wind & Wuthering
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Your GA nomination of Wind & Wuthering
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I'm afraid...
...I may have spoiled the broth by pinging more cooks in. Let me suggest, if you're agreeable, that you propose that ALT2 (specifically) be re-ticked by the reviewer and that it be held for April 1. <b style="color: red;">E</b><b style="color: blue;">Eng</b> 18:57, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I just created the DYK as a light hearted pun on an article I spotted a couple of other editors writing. I don't mind what happens to it - if some Wikipedians lack a sense of humour, then too bad. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  22:29, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
 * When you're old and looking back on your empty life, you'll wish you'd grabbed this brass ring. <b style="color: red;">E</b><b style="color: blue;">Eng</b> 22:32, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
 * It's funny, I've nominated a few DYKs lately, but if it gets too anal and too boring and too fucking tiresome to deal with some of the turgid bullshit, I just let the nomination float away. Who cares about DYK really?  It's a perennial joke, not for the right reasons.  Recently someone claimed the reason they delinked articles from hooks was because the quality of those non-target articles was debatable.  Laugh?  I nearly punctured my own aorta with a chopstick which I'd ingested through my stoma.  It was so inspirational, I nearly signed up for the WikiCup.  The Rambling Man (talk) 22:34, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
 * You'll be telling me you were almost tempted to sign up to the Counter Vandalism Academy Brigade (or whatever it's called) and dish out some barnstars for reverting vandalism (or whatever they do). <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  22:41, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
 * No, I can't do that, I'm not qualified. I'm just a pest.  The Rambling Man (talk) 22:48, 11 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Ah yes, we certainly need more music at DYK. Perhaps this could feature as a great DYK hook? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:55, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Well if people are complaining about Trump Street, the planned follow-up "Did you know .... that Teresa May has appeared in Celebrity Shags 13 and Dirty English Bitches Volume 3?" (both sources absolutely SFW) would make them apoplectic. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)  <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  22:53, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Transatlantic Ping Pong, anyone?? Martinevans123 (talk) 23:11, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Herbert Siguenza, not Herbert Sigüenza
Please change the name without use of the accent mark. If you don't make this change, anyone searching for Herbert Siguenza is taken to the Culture Clash page. I tried to change, but I don't know how. My keyboard can't even type it, and I am afraid people will never find his page otherwise. Thanks, 24.94.28.91 (talk) 05:38, 12 January 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.94.28.91 (talk) 05:36, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Fixed - the redirect from Herbert Siguenza now goes to his article. Pam  D  06:59, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

GAR help!
Hey Ritchie333, I found your name listed on the mentor list for GAR help and thought to approach you right away. I have started a GAR of Papal conclave, 1667. I am new to reviewing GAs, it would be awesome if I can get some help and guidance from you through the process. Ping me if you are up on it. Thanks! :) Simranpreet singh (talk) 11:11, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Reverted info about Genesis
I have a source to verify what I had inserted into the article about Genesis - a book written by Bowler and Dray. The claim that Steve Hackett wasn't interested in writing shorter and simpler songs is mentioned in the book.61.69.217.3 (talk) 11:21, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
 * No, you added a sentence with a fact tag at the end of it, which makes no sense. I’ve got Bowler / Dray’s book right here; give me the page number and I’ll check. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  11:34, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

It's page 137.61.69.217.3 (talk) 11:48, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Lygon Arms
Hello! Your submission of Lygon Arms at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 22:19, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Happy Pongal, Makar Sankranti, Lohri and Bihu to you!
May all your endeavours have a fruitful beginning and prosperous ending! — Ssven2  Looking at you, kid 12:23, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for John Samuel Phene
Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 12:03, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Pro:Atria
In November 2017 you have declined a submission of Draft:Pro:Atria. Much to my surprise, the draft showed up today as a fake article here. I am inclined to prevent further tricks like that by nominating it for deletion, but is that an unusual or harsh way to act? <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 18:11, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Drafts usually aren't deleted because someone tried to link it from the article space. If you feel that the draft will never have a chance you're welcome to send it to MFD though. Primefac (talk) 18:27, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, then I leave it at this (with the exception of the draft going into clear and deliberate misuse). <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 18:52, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, by now I have removed another two instances of that trick... <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 19:03, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Some feedback requested
Hi there. As you know, I'm not really a content-generating person but I decided to try my luck with User:SoWhy/SpellForce 3. Since you have so much more experience with GAs than I do, do you think you can give me some pointers before I'm moving it to main space? TIA and Regards  So Why  14:08, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Iridescent once advised me about breaking up the appearance of walls-of-text, particularly that even if no images are available, other methods, such as can be just as effective, and I've found that to be absolutely true. That would be an immediate, and I think, easy improvement to make? Just my opinion, of course.   >SerialNumber  54129 ...speculates 14:30, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
 * In video game articles, we don't usually mention every single character unless they're directly related to the plot, and if they are, we incorporate it into the prose in #Plot. Sometimes we have a synopsis section that consists of setting and plot, the former can be used to set the scene (and makes the plot section itself a little shorter). Here are a few examples of good plot/synopsis sections: The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt ("Setting", "plot"), Fallout 4: Far Harbor ("Setting and characters", "plot"), Bastion (video game) ("Plot"). Also, in reception, WP:VG consensus is to only include Metacritic, unless it's an older game. Hope this helps. <b style="font-family:Papyrus"> Anarchyte ( work  &#124;  talk ) </b> 14:44, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Sure does, thanks both of you. Will incorporate it shortly. Regards  So Why  15:10, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
 * You really want David Fuchs for this. Because he's responsible for so many of Wikipedia's videogame articles, and in particular Wikipedia's featured videogame articles, the way he does things is the de facto standard for these articles as they're what readers expect Wikipedia's videogame articles to look like. I concur whole-heartedly (unsurprisingly) with 54129's comment about walls of text; even if you can't find any directly relevant images to break the flow, you can always use tangentially-relevant illustrations such as photos of people involved, pictures of places mentioned in the article, and block quotations to break up the flow of text. (See Charles Domery for a good example of the use of quote-boxes to pseudo-illustrate an article for which no pictures of the subject exist, and consequently make it look less like a daunting essay.) &#8209; Iridescent 17:29, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I can take a look at the article this week and post comments to the draft talk, if you'd like SoWhy. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 21:58, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the tips! I'd appreciate that! And maybe we can then stop misusing Ritchie's talk page for this  Regards  So  Why  08:02, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Looks like everyone else has handled this. I've never been a big video games fan, unless it's pulling the game to pieces and seeing how it works. If they're still around, the crowd that got behind Talk:Sega Genesis/GA2, such as and, may be amenable to help. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)  <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  13:12, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I think Jet Set Willy II was as far as it ever went for me :)   >SerialNumber  54129 ...speculates 13:32, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I think Jet Set Willy II was as far as it ever went for me :)   >SerialNumber  54129 ...speculates 13:32, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

FAC
Hi. I was wondering if you could provide some comments on my FAC Margaret (singer). Best. ArturSik (talk) 16:37, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I'll have a proper look when I get time, but one quick point - a source from The Sun saying "Naked ambition: Polish pop babe Margaret's nude party video" is an instant WP:BLPSOURCES violation and hence instant oppose at FAC, so that should be fixed ASAP. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  13:08, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I have now removed this. I was hoping someone would review the sources however most of them are in Polish so that might be a problem. Looking forward to your review. ArturSik (talk) 14:02, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Forty Five Hundred Times
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Nice to see that pictured, together with a musical highlight of mine! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 16 January 2018 (UTC)


 * I wonder if the article has been viewed, er, 4500 times? <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  00:07, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Only seventy nine to go :)     >SerialNumber  54129 ...speculates 17:59, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

regarding edit summaries
The essay reminded me of this complaining on my talk page - always nice to get accusations levelled at you :) Anyhow it twas I who "won" in the end with this edit.. Galobtter (pingó mió) 18:07, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I think I recognise that IP, actually.... <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  19:38, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh wow Galobtter (pingó mió) 05:12, 18 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Hmm yeah, always fun with that guy. But, Galobter, I have to take issue with you: that business of "and" or comma, it's style, not grammar. Unless you're my mother in law, which would be very strange. Drmies (talk) 19:42, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Source issue
The site Scrapbookpages.com qualifies as an unreliable source but it has been cited in the following historic articles:222nd Infantry Regiment (United States), Old_Synagogue,_Kraków, Ilse_Koch. I don't know how many more. Would it be appropriate to blacklist the scrapbookpages site or not? <span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">Atsme 📞📧 20:01, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't know anything about it myself, but it's been mentioned on the Reliable Sources Noticeboard - you could try reverting edits that cite it, linking to Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 126, and see if that's any better? <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  20:46, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Related 2012 spam-blacklist thread: it still appears to be listed at User:XLinkBot/RevertReferencesList and User:XLinkBot/RevertList, meaning that a bot normally should remove newly added instances.  If that's not enough (or if that doesn't work), we could report it at WT:WPSPAM where experienced spam-fighters could add it to wider blacklists like MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist if they consider it necessary.   currently only shows 8 mainspace articles remaining.  — Paleo  Neonate  – 08:41, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you PN - it appears I just named 3 of the 8? <span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">Atsme 📞📧 12:21, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Lygon Arms
Gatoclass (talk) 02:46, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Angel Recording Studios
Gatoclass (talk) 14:01, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Trellick Tower
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Trellick Tower you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Eric Corbett -- Eric Corbett (talk) 18:20, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Wey Valley Radio for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Wey Valley Radio is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Wey Valley Radio& until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. – Davey 2010 Talk 18:36, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I can see deleted articles anyway, nya nya pfpfpfpffff :-P <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  19:25, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * ...and after literally an hour's ceaseless searching, you discovered a nugget of purest greeen... :)   >SerialNumber  54129 ...speculates 19:39, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Could that be considered a speedy close as semi-G7 redirect? Primefac (talk) 19:40, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, R333 is only down as creating it because he created the page as a redirect—the actual 'creator' of the article's text was this one. But of course twinkle doesn't know that...  >SerialNumber  54129 ...speculates 19:45, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * That'll teach me to not check histories... Primefac (talk) 19:46, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Hahahaha damnit! :P, Well I'll go to ANI and have you desysopped!..... I'm sure that'd go very well for me :P
 * Ahhhh so this was originally a redirect in the first riiiight, Well I have no objections to that Primefac – Davey 2010 Talk 19:43, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * ...but Primefac changed their mind ;)     >SerialNumber  54129 ...speculates 19:59, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

It must be my "dry-eye"
I'm not seeing it - what medal did he win? <span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">Atsme 📞📧 21:34, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry, my mistake - he taught other people how to be successful at sports and win medals. But that's probably still enough to clear A7. Feel free to file an AfD if you wish. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  22:15, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * AfD = Alternative for Dry-eye...SMirC-puppyeyes.svg. I think you're right - coaching a gold medal winner should/probably does pass N. <span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">Atsme 📞📧 22:27, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

WP:ASTONISHME
I cited it in a GA review myself recently. In my case, it was arguing that our readers are reasonably intelligent enough to not need a Wikilink to Vatican when they are reading about papal conclaves, and that linking to a 20th century sovereign entity in a 17th century topic was a bit odd. Such a versatile essay. TonyBallioni (talk) 13:35, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
 * It's a nice entertaining essay that's useful to keep in mind when copyediting and trying to make prose more readable. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  13:38, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Is Legobot working?
I recently passed "Nowadays Clancy Can't Even Sing through GA review. Shouldn't Legobot have placed the GA icon on the article by now? Or can delays last hours at a time?TheGracefulSlick (talk) 00:35, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry, this got lost in the mail ... sometimes the bot is slow on the update or hiccups. I got distracted by reading the article in question ;-) <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  13:54, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

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