User talk:Riurik

WP:POINT
Sorry to bother you, but since you edited the article Russians in Ukraine, I was wondering if you have an opinion on the serious violation of the WP:POINT there. I'd like to hear your opinion about it before I file it on the ANB. Thanks in advance. --Hillock65 18:00, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Violations need to be addressed. If there are reasonable issues then an intervention should be undertaken, however it should not be done for revanchist reasons.--Riurik(discuss) 02:12, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Ukrainian Village
Even though the article is stubby, I think each item in List of Chicago Landmarks should have its own page instead of section redirects. Tomorrow, I will be nominating this list for WP:FLC. I am going to revert to stub. TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 00:54, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

P.S. I closed the merger discussion on the talk page. See closing at Talk:Ukrainian Village, Chicago. TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 01:09, 19 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Ok. I disagree, but won't insist on this further as the two are interlinked regardless.  Good luck with the FLC.--Riurik(discuss) 03:26, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Shche ne vmerla Ukraina lyrics
Ok, that's what you meant. I was right about the zazhivyemo thing right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Griffon2-6 (talk • contribs)
 * Glad that we came to an agreement. I don't know whether it is zapanuyem or zazhyvemo (in the pre-2003) version.  The English wiki says zazhyvemo under pre-2003.  The UKR wiki says zapanuyem in all three versions.  So I was wondering about your source for the pre-2003 version.  Do you have a ref we can cite?--Riurik(discuss) 03:19, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I can read cyrillic. All I was doing was transliterating it from the cyrillic. Check on nationalanthems.us if you want to be sure. Griffon2-6 20:42, 21 June 2007 (UTC)Griffon2-6

Chernobyl disaster
I bet you thought I had forgotten! Wow, what a long article; but it's not even in the top 1000 Long pages, so it could be worse. Regardless of its length, it is a very well written article indeed and could be a strong FA candidate, I believe, with a few improvements. As you probably know, the references need to be increased in some sections, including Immediate Crisis Management and Causes. The Grass and forest fires sub-section has a group of embedded URLs that need to be changed to footnotes. It looks very difficult to trim the length, as it does not have anything that is not essential or at least very worthwhile, and because of this, the Effects of disaster section would probably have to be the main target, since it has a full article. I'm not sure how much could actually be removed from this section without leaving it incomplete, so it may even require restriction to a See also link. If that doesn't work, then the length will probably have to remain unchanged. As WP:SIZE says, length has to be judged on a case-by-case basis, because there are circumstances in which an article has to be very long. There are no rules about this, as such. My advice would be to put it through an FA candidate review and see if the length is among the issues raised. You may well be able to justify it.  Adrian  M. H.  18:37, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Adrian, thanks a lot for the comments; fully within a reasonable response time frame.--Riurik(discuss) 03:47, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

The Chernobyl article is very compellingly written. I read it after watching a YouTube video, [Inside Chernobyl], of guys exploring the sarcophagus. The video and the article are clear enough to give nightmares. I adjusted the wording around the 40-second diesel generator startup. I hope you find that the result is slightly clearer, without changing the meaning. Brianhill 04:03, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Transliteration policy
As a member of WikiProject Ukraine, you are invited to participate in the discussion about transliteration of Ukrainian words. I would appreciate your participation. Discussion is located here. Thank you. — Alex(U 17:55, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Regarding the Template:USPresidents
My edits were not vandalism, GHW Bush and Cheney were both Acting Presidents under Regan and GW Bush, respectively. These are not individual templates for separate terms, if you had actually read it properly and clicked the respectively links (it's why they're there) you would have found this out. Therequiembellishere 01:54, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
 * For the record, I did look around the template's talk page and finding no discussion of the "interim" label concluded that it was a joke - not so it appears. So Cheney was U.S. president (if only acting) afterall.--Riurik(discuss) 04:43, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

RFC/USER Russianname
A Request for Comment on User:Russianname has been filed. As user, who had experience of dealing with this individual your comments on this RfC would be appreciated. Thank you. --Hillock65 14:35, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Духнович
Привет. Вижу, что вы участвуете в иске против меня. Не очень удачное начало для сотрудничества, учитывая, что я тоже пишу про Львов, но в русской версии. Вы написали, что дали факты к статье про Духновича. Честно говоря, я их не увидел. Поищите, все-таки. Духнович - крупная фигура, но принадлежность его к украинцам в высшей степени сомнительна. Если от участвовал в украинофильском движении, то это надо показать на фактах и показать в каком периоде это происходило. С уважением, --Russianname 08:28, 23 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Greetings. I am glad to hear that you are also contributing to the material about Lviv.  Perhaps one day the entry on En wiki will improve enough in quality to match its FA counterpart at Ru wiki.  Pleasantries aside, allow me to note that contrary to your assertion, I am not participating in the RfC on your behavior.  My sole involvement has been as a short comment on an "outside view" offered by user Alaexis.  As can be seen here that comment has nothing to do with the matter of the RfC in question, and instead deals with the issue of references.  As for Dukhnovych's place in the Ukrainian historical heritage, please see the entry below:


 * "Oleksandr Dukhnovych (1803-1865) was a Ukrainian Transcarpathian writer and cultural figure. A poet, playwright and essayist, he also recorded Ukrainian folk-songs." (from Pivovarov, N. "Dukhnovych, Oleksandr Vasil'ovych." Modern Encyclopedia of Russian and Soviet Literature. Ed. by Harry B. Weber. Gulf Breeze, FL.: Academic International Press. 6 (1982): 91. as cited in Tarnawsky's ULE book. Regards, --Riurik(discuss) 01:41, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Привет еще раз, я был не совсем точен: вы же тоже используете украиноязычные ссылки и даже ссылки на украиноязычные журнаы (которые тем более недоступны для англоязычных читателей) :) --Russianname 08:37, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Sure, on those occasions when English references are unavailable, I utilize an alternative source in other languages. I think that this is a commonsense policy.  This, however, does not negate the fact that English language references are much superior and prefered to non-English references - at least for usage on en.wiki.  That was and remains my position on the issue.--Riurik(discuss) 20:15, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Request to move Kyiv
Hello,

I have set up a request to move the page Kiev to Kyiv.

I have outlined four key reasons for doing so in the discussion section of the page.

Looking through the archives, I saw that you had contributed to this page earlier. I would like to hear what you have to say on this topic.

Thank you

Horlo 02:59, 30 July 2007 (UTC)Horlo

Misunderstanding
This edit was a misunderstanding. "Rewrite the above version" meant only that I was rewriting the above version. It wasn't a command that you should rewrite. The purpose of my rewrite was only to improve the English and the wikilink, not to dispute the facts about the gulag. Art LaPella 21:00, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Oops. Nicht ein problem.  Thanks for letting me know. Regards, --Riurik(discuss) 21:27, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Random Smile!


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Aleksander DUKHNOVICH
I've answered you on the Dukhnovich talk page. Regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rusyn (talk • contribs) 20:32, August 29, 2007 (UTC)
 * Replied at the talk page.--Riurik(discuss) 01:55, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Ukrainian architecture
I made a start to the article here, would you be interested to help me construct it, particularly about the structures in Lvov and Galicia? --Kuban Cossack 14:52, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I'll give this some time in the next few days. Nice start, I see.--Riurik(discuss) 04:30, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks a lot for the honor! It was a big encouragement in these stressful time of my editing history. I will try to live up to it. Too bad I have not created many new articles recently, but there are several largely written at my hard drive. Just need patience and composure to finish and post them. Thanks again! --Irpen 02:15, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank You
I am glad my modest work is appreciated. Thank you for the award, it is a joy to contribute to Wikipedia, especially when it concerns Ukraine. Thank you again!--MaksKhomenko 21:18, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks bud!
Keep up the good work yourself, and feel free to join us over in Ukrainian soccer if you ever get bored with general Ukraine edits! ;)) -- Palffy 00:50, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Gratitude
Slava vilniy Ukraini.

Please, accept my appriciation as well for your award. Very cool. Very flattered that you took some of your time to look over my contributions. Xa Aleksandr Grigoryev 00:05, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Wow, you're very attentative. Thanx. Listen, how do you do them anyway? Can I do one as well? Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 23:23, 27 December 2007 (UTC)


 * You earned it. Yes, you can do one, or as many as you like.  Now how do you go about doing it:  for starters, take a look at WP:Awards, which has a neat selection of standard awards ranging from the Classic Barnstar to more specialized awards usually centered around WikiProjects.  These are easy to use, since all you have to do is type the subst : name of the award | message of the award and don't forget to enclose with double brackets "".  Alternatively, you can make your own awards by framing or thumbing images found here. Edit counters are available here.--Riurik(discuss) 04:57, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you very much for this recognition on wikipedia, its quite an honor. дякую, Ostap 19:44, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

FC Dynamo Kyiv
and shows exactly what I was talking about.

Sigh. With such help, I am not sure we could pull it off. --Irpen 21:29, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


 * We can't avoid these. People will say what they want, but unless the comments are on the issue at hand, they need not apply.  Once the RfC is started, the purpose will be explicitly stated upfront:  to address the usage of "Kyiv" in organizations and FC clubs; the discussion will not apply to the city as there is a strong consensus on there already.--Riurik(discuss) 22:42, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, try to say this "strong consensus" in the discussion where the well-known "conscious" users are likely to take part. --Irpen 22:49, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Wow, thanks very much. That means something. Kevlar67 23:06, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks
Thanks alot, I appreciate it, I will continue correcting the Ukrainian and Russian people stubs, its just time for me to sleep. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Koliak2991 (talk • contribs) 05:56, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

7 wonders of ukraine
hi riurik

i've left a rather sarky msg (sorry!) about the 7 wonders of ukraine article in the discussion board.

you might care to correct the order, given that the officical site it links to clearly proves the wikipedia article has things the wrong way around.

sorry too much on my plate to join the wikipedia community, but as i'm a journo writing on ukraine, and including the seven wonders it would be nice not to have inaccuracies on wikipedia contradicting what i'm going to write! :-)

ta.

sarah —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.129.147.21 (talk) 19:26, 12 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Sarah, here at wikipedia we're dedicated to presenting factually correct information, :). The order is correct.  See the reply on the talk page.--Riurik(discuss) 18:41, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh come on!
Seriously...You beat by one frickin' minute. (I know like my signature too :)) Bogdan що? 04:40, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * How about Ukrainian ministry of defense for next update? :)), Bogdan що? 23:15, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm totally for it. It'll have to wait to let older entries featured, but around 22/23 one of the editors (possibly myself) will move it for "next update".  Heck of a job there.--Riurik(discuss) 03:54, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Alright. By the way, if V. Rechmedin article was too short, and say I expand it...tomorrow, could we still re-nominated it? I must admit, I'm rather fond of this man and I'd like the article to at least make DYK. Regards, Bogdan що? 04:01, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and added a paragraph which places it just over the threshold. I was also bold and moved it for next update, given that it will become ineligible very quickly.  I made that clear when "updating" the template.  Should that arise as an issue, and my "boldness" gets the entry placed back to the suggestion area, you may have to update it tomorrow yourself.--Riurik(discuss) 04:05, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks for helping editing Valentyn Rechmedin. I will probably also write about his brother Leonid who also was a journalist, reporting from both Stalingrad and Berlin during the war, and later worked as a high rank bureaucrat in the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. I just need more references. Then I also plan to rewrite the article about Plyskiv (that now only focus on the Jewish settlement there, in fact now it looks like there were only Jewish living there even though about 2/3 were Ukrainians in the mid 1800s) and I will continue to add more pictures (besides my recent ones and old postcards I also have many unique German pictures from the 1940s). By the way Plyskiv is a містечко and not a village. How would you translate it? Township? Narking (talk) 22:03, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Glad to help. As long as the new articles get announced on the portal, someone can always help (dyk or otherwise).  As far as Plyskiv.  Township may be one, and I would say, an accurate version to translate Містечко, however it can be translated in many ways.  Take a look at this article:  Administrative_divisions_of_Ukraine.  As far as population, is 1500 people large enough for a settlement to be described as a Town or is it just a big Village?  I don't know the answer, but you could try to make the argument that Plyskiv is a mistechko/town and let the reader judge based on the population number.--Riurik(discuss) 00:20, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

From CD/NCST
I hope that little misunderstanding between us is in past now. Generally I like the proposal, and "Did you noticed that? It should be reverted, right?" means only that you were too fast to change the policy (I thought that discussion was open). I'm sorry.  Jhony  |   Talk   09:44, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree, it is in the past, and such things are to be expected when the only mode of communication is writing. I can honestly say that when I "closed" the discussion, it seemed that it was dying out, and no one objected to the proposal as a whole.  My interpretation of your statement was more on the "bad faith" side, so I'll trade an apology with you.  See you around.--Riurik(discuss) 07:05, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Anti-Vandalism Barnstar award
Thank you for the award. What an honor to be recognized. Well, I guess I am the one-star general now. I will print it out, cut it out, and pin it to my shirt. On the serious note, will keep plugging in. Maksdo (talk) 13:34, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Red Maple Leaf Award
Thanks for the award. I really appreciate it. Given my lack of active editing recently, it goes to show that someone appreciates some of my work through time. -- JamesTeterenko 18:29, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Hero of Ukraine
Keep it up!!! --Boguslav (talk) 18:17, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you. :) --Riurik(discuss) 04:09, 9 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Congratulations! A well-deserved one. --Irpen 05:46, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

HELP!!!
Hey, I need some help in dealing with those bots. How do I need to put the rationale for a soccer club's logo in the way it won't be disputed by those mindless idiots? Pard'n language:) I'm having really dificult time with them. Every time there are some new rules and it's kind of irritating to see that my work is being considered as a piracy. What do you think? Drop me a message, please!Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 03:38, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Irpen has taken care of it. Here is how to deal with the bots.--Riurik(discuss) 08:44, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Korovai
Is a picture from this flickr site usable if it is public? Ostap 04:17, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * No, public = anyone can see it, but says nothing about the licensing of an image. It's a nice picture, but I see that he has it as by-no$-copyleft, which makes it ineligible for us.  If there is one licensed under "by" or "by-copyleft" then it would be o.k.  Also, the president's side, rada, and other gov. sites may have photos which may be eligible under the pd-ua-exempt template.--Riurik(discuss) 04:23, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar
Thanks, Riurik. I am deeply honored by your gesture. — Turgidson (talk) 05:59, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for the barnstar, Riurik. --Angelo (talk) 17:39, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Small numerical correction
Valline at al (including the Ukrainian coauthor from Kulchytsky's institute) is 2.6 mln. Kulchytski is 3.2 million (est) or 3 to 3.5 million to allow for the error margin. His best estimate is 3.2 and 3.5 is the upper one. --Irpen 07:56, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm, good to know. Tx.--Riurik(discuss) 08:00, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Re:Lwow edits
I will take a look at this; I have witnessed his not-very-constructive attitude at Kraków some time ago. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 20:04, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, czesc. --Riurik(discuss) 20:09, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

С Новым годом!


Thank you. See below for my reply (didn't write it myself, but appropriate for this):

Желаю шуток, смеха столько, Хватило чтоб на год вперед. Чтоб было весело не только Под елкою на Новый год!

--Riurik(discuss) 22:13, 1 January 2008 (UTC) :)

Thank you
Thank you for the new year wishes, all the best to you and to our countries. Tymek (talk) 05:12, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Featured article candidates/Józef Piłsudski
Since you commented in the last round, please note that the nomination has been restarted. Thanks for the comments and edits so far! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 16:26, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Mezhyhirskyi Monastery GAR
I've left comments for a Good Article Review on the talk page.

From looking at your userpage, I see you have lots more experience at this than I do, but I hope the comments help. I'll formally put it on hold. Let me know what you do to the article. Smallbones (talk) 00:07, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

З новим старим роком
Сію, вію, посіваю, з Новим роком поздоровляю!

На щастя, на здоров'я та на Новий рік,

Щоб уродило краще, ніж торік, -

Жито, пшениця і всяка пашниця,

Коноплі під стелю на велику куделю.

Будьте здорові з Новим роком та з Василем!

Дай, Боже!

Bandurist (talk) 01:04, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Bit late... but thanks for "The Minor Barnstar" you gave me! Inspiring! Mariah-Yulia (talk) 21:27, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

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I am sure that you where trying to help me when you said here [] "Mariah-Yulia, you may also want to look at the issue from the other perspective, where Ukrainian names can be deemed (probably are by some) as irritable". Are you trying to tell me too cool down and that I might get annoying? Or that the people who see the use of Ukrainian names as irratable are wrong and should be opposed? Thanks in advance! PS trough my Ukrainian friends from the south and Kiev I'm getting to understand Ukraine better slowley... Mariah-Yulia (talk) 21:28, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I don't think you "heated up" enough in the first place for me to say "cool down". My purpose was to point out the fact that what is irritable is subjective.  I agree that proper names should be used; the problem is establishing what these are.  In the case of Kunis, the initial starting point of her being of Ukrainian heritage, therefore the patronimic must be -ivna, turned out to be incorrect after you did some research about her, and Kunis appears to be clueless about that part of the world.  Glad to hear about the progress made in understanding Ukraine; it's one of those things that never stops.--Riurik(discuss) 21:46, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

hold on
Whats this? You've been strolling around with my betrothed? Thats it, I challenge you to a duel! Ostap 05:11, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Can it be a sabre duel? At dawn then?  I couldn't resist.  She's a fine looking girl. --Riurik(discuss) 05:17, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Treaty of Brest-Litovsk (February 9, 1918), was selected for DYK!
Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid (talk) 17:01, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Ivan Rohach
Please make a comment Bandurist (talk) 03:05, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

An editor has nominated Ivan Rohach, an article on which you have worked or that you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").

Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ).

Allow me


I hereby award you the both halves of the, so called "Half Barnstar" whose name should not mislead anyone into being anything but a full award. This is "for your excellence in Cooperation, especially for productive editing together with someone who holds diametrically opposed or simply different viewpoints". There are too many articles to name (or even remember) where you displayed such attitude and I would rather just state the obvious and give you this well-deserved award. Keep up the good work! --Irpen 08:06, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, "diametrically opposed" - that's a good way to put it :)!--Riurik(discuss) 19:01, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

re:any advice?

 * Hi, Riurik, sorry for delay in responce.. I see that the image that was uploaded by the user is now deleted due to lack of licence information. If you want to re-upload the other image from the Presidential website, just use it under the fairuse licence with a non-free image rationale, because the president.gov.ua site now says "All rights reserved." which does not make it under the PD-UA-exempt licence.
 * I am on spring break right now, so I'll have much more time available for wiki, I'll start cleaning up the image problems with PD-UA-exempt soon. PS, would you care to help out with a draft I started of the Kamianets-Podilskyi Castle? Cheers, —dima/talk/ 20:34, 20 March 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem. Thanks for getting back to me on this.  I'll reupload another image as you suggest under the fairuse license, and drop by the Castle article as well.--Riurik(discuss) 17:08, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

The award rain continues....
Got to keep those vandals out! Thanks. --Riurik(discuss) 21:55, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you so much for the award, Riuruk! It took me a while to understand what it was exactly and when it happened. Have a nice day!--Rubikonchik (talk) 21:06, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Holodomor lead picture
Any better idea that the boy currently in? My concern is that, as most of those photos were proven to be, this may be the 1920s image from the Nansen commission as well. I would also prefer to not have grisly pictures at all, if possible, just to preserve the article's readership. Malevich's painting is a possibility, while it is too allegoric and this is just one of the several interpretations. But I don't have any better ideas now. --Irpen 03:07, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


 * It would be good to find a historical photograph from the time with more than one person in it for the lead. Malevich is good, but I don't think that should be the lead visual mostly because it is a painting.  On the nature of grisly, we probably disagree.  I don't see how an article on this subject can avoid grisly pictures, and I don't think that having such material will compromise readership on the subject.  Having said that, these don't have to be the only pictures.  For the lead, what about these:  Image:Holodomor1.jpg (probably not) or Image:Holodomor - Harkivska oblast.jpg (a maybe).  The second seems more appropriate, than the first.  Aren't there other sources where we can dip for image documentation?--Riurik(discuss) 04:17, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


 * On grisly pictures, I can't accept them sorry. I don't run Wikipedia, of course, and I have to abide with what would otherwise be a consensus, but I consistently opposed the grisly picture irrespective of the POV, be it the tortured Kosmodemyanskaya in her article, murdered Polish children or this article.


 * The second picture you propose is not expressive enough for the lead, it is simply generic. This child's eyes relay the feeling no less than the image of a dead person. Maybe Joe will be nice enough to comment on that without outbursts. He has access to many pictures. Currently, I have no formed opinion except the generic image is no good and the grisly image is out of question. We can leave it as is for now. I am just thinking out loud. --Irpen 05:24, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


 * That's fine. Just to clarify my position, I don't think a grisly image should be the lead picture, but I do think that grisly images if they are related to the topic, are acceptable in the main text.--Riurik(discuss) 17:39, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Please join me and Faustian at his talk. We need to figure out what to do with the Vallin's discrepancy, that is 2.6 mln he gives in the 2002 paper, whose copy I've given to you earlier and 2.2 million in his 2005 paper found by JoeDoe. I am not to take anything Joe says on the face value but these two sources are in our full disposal and we should be able to decide on how to proceed. Thanks, --Irpen 02:25, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, I read the issue at the talk, and will need to review the 2005 paper by Vallin before commenting.--Riurik(discuss) 15:05, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Front ideas
Hello. I recently mused on the possibility of expanding our coverage of the late Soviet period in the various republics (at least the ones where something interesting was happening), and I notice Ukraine is rather poorly covered. History of Ukraine has only a couple of paragraphs on the topic, while the article on Rukh has just one. We have articles on the 1990 elections (not bad), the declaration of sovereignty, the declaration of independence (OK) and the independence referendum. However, we can do more with the 1987-91 period. I'm not proposing anything concrete (the area isn't a specialty of mine, but I can contribute something), just putting out some ideas. We should definitely expand on the articles we have, especially Rukh. Once that's done, we might consider having an article tying it all together - "Late Soviet Ukraine", "Independence of Ukraine", something like that. Anyway, let me know what you think. Biruitorul (talk) 19:26, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I like the idea. I've been thinking of what specific areas on Wikipedia concerning Ukrainian issues can use more attention (there are so many), and I think this is a good topic.  I announced it here, and will place it on my user front page, but may not be able to contribute much right away.--Riurik(discuss) 04:33, 8 April 2008 (UTC)


 * That's fine, as long as we get something underway eventually. And you're right - each country still has a lot of work to be done. Just recently I was looking at Roman Catholicism in Ukraine - big work to be done there, and while we have a pretty good article on Protestants in Ukraine, I don't believe we have anything on Mormons there, which we should, given that the first Mormon temple in Eastern Europe will soon open in Kiev. Anyway, Ukraine is lucky to have a group of dedicated editors and I'm confident there will be improvement: it's the more neglected countries (much of ex-Yugoslavia, for instance, or Moldova (which we Romanians try to handle as best we can)) one should feel sorry for. Biruitorul (talk) 16:36, 8 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, that's the weakness of wikipedia. It is biased toward people with internet access, which in in turn defines what gets covered.  As a result, we have entries at FA level on 0.999..., but lack quality coverage of modern day states.--Riurik(discuss) 18:15, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

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Hi. Im curious as to what you meant when you deleted an external link I added to the Holodomor page, saying it was "self promotion". First, I don't work for Russia Today and can't even imagine why you would think so. Second, the link is in complete compliance with WP:NPOV and WP:External links. Please explain why you feel a well known Russian historians views, which are very much relevant to the subject matter, should be censored from wikipedia. Krawndawg (talk) 23:45, 24 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I was not trying to imply that you worked for any organization, but external links are quite often used for promotion purposes. Regardless, a plausible argument can be made that this specific linking is intended to promote RT, so in that sense it is imaginable.


 * Now about the issue, the link is not in compliance with wikipedia's NPOV policy, as it represents the view of that particular organization (see its youtube description page). It is also not in compliance with external links policy, b/c it does not add unique resource beyond what is already provided in the article.--Riurik(discuss) 20:13, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Purging external links and unused "references"

 * Speaking of which, the external links sections has a lot of unscholarly crap. What do you think of purging it? We can put it in a dedicated talk page archive if someone would feel their important links are wasted. What do you say? --Irpen 03:07, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes. I won't "archive" though; it's not about hurt feelings, and the topic does not lack coverage, plus it's already archived in history.--Riurik(discuss) 20:13, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, I will take care of this when I have time. Right now, I am busy with administrative units of Imperial Russia in the territories of Ukraine someone started all at once. Maybe you could help, if you have time, with those too? No pressure though. --Irpen 20:18, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I've started the purging process, and there seem to be lots of deadlinks and plain promo sites (local organizations devoted to the cause of promoting awareness about the holodomor - which is fine, but that do not add anything of substance to the article). Are you talking about the governorate articles?--Riurik(discuss) 20:21, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Governorates as well as the Goverotate General (Southwestern Krai).


 * Good job with purging refs. "Famine-Genocide" and "art-Ukraine" links should preferably all go, unless they host the article by a scholar. In that case we should best find the same scholarly work at the acceptable site. I was able to most of the time. --Irpen 20:27, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

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 * lol, thanks...I think somewhere along the road it became a habit, although a good one I should say.--Riurik(discuss) 02:40, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

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 * Happy Easter!--Riurik(discuss) 17:15, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Soul (film) and Chervona Ruta (film)
Hello, hope all is well. Just a quick question, could you or someone else please check these two articles (spelling, wiki, etc.). In fact, there is also a third one Where Has Love Gone?, but it still requires a major expansion. I am trying to make them good, and who knows, may be featured on wiki as such. In fact, as you have probably mentioned I am interested basicly in all what is related to Sofia Rotaru, and since her artistic creation is rather inetrnational, although very much related to Ukraine as well, I thought you could give it some attention. As for Chervona Ruta (film), what would be good - to add an extensive Plot desription section. Thank you in advance--Rubikonchik (talk) 20:03, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll take a look at these. Thanks for bringing this to the attention.--Riurik(discuss) 21:42, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

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 * Hello, thank you for your interest in Moldavian-Ukrainian relations. I have been checking teh site of Ukrainian census 2001 and didn't quire understand what do they mean by linguistic census, as per categories they list in different columns. Please, check if what I put in the artcile corresponds to what the census offcials wanted to express in the table regarding linguitsic census. (for Modlavian language in Ukraine, I mean) Thanks in advance-- Moldopodo talk 18:05, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

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I hope you can come back on soon. You're missing all the great fun. Ostap 04:35, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I have completely dropped off the face of wikipedia. It gets too tiresome to repeatedly fix things around, and I got really busy outside wikipedia.  I can't say this is my come back, but I'll be around.  --Riurik(discuss) 22:59, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

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Can I upload images to Wikipedia Commons from a website of the Government of Ukraine? They are photos (1 colour, 3 b&w) of protests in Kyiv from July 1990 - August 1991. They are posted on the Ministry of Foreign Affairs website. Jwkozak91 (talk) 03:16, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, jumping in on this one, Riurik! Jwkozak91, I would rather not try, because it appears that we cannot use the UA-PD-exempt template for Ukrainian-government published images and lots of Copyright paranoia freaks are on there.. If you need that photo you could pull it off under the Fair Use guidelines as I doubt a reasonable replacement photograph can be found. Hope that helps, ddima.talk 05:12, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks Dima for replying to Jwkozak91. Long time, no see.--Riurik(discuss) 21:03, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

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 * Are you back or was that just your 2009 edit? If you are back that would be great. Ostap 02:01, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, that was funny. Likely my 2009 edit, but who knows ;).--Riurik(discuss) 03:36, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

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