User talk:RiverLake97

Edit warring
Hello - do not continue pushing your own viewpoints into articles like Cleveland. It is a Featured Article, meaning it has already undergone a great deal of scrutiny. If experienced editors like myself and Magnolia677 are reverting you, you should stop and reconsider your edits and perhaps use the article's talk page. Thanks, ɱ  (talk) 16:18, 9 January 2023 (UTC)


 * I was making the article better. More people know where NYC is than where Columbus is. Its not meaningful to say Cleveland is x miles from Columbus, but it is to say it is x miles from NYC. If people know where Columbus is, they already know where Cleveland is. See the comment from the Russian person---he/she put back the NYC reference point because he said it was helpful. People who look at the Cleveland page are not only people from Ohio, rather most people look at it are probably not from Ohio--and that's why they are looking at it. If you're saying an article that has already gone through a great deal of scrutiny and therefore it should not be correct or improved, that complacency will only lead to mediocrity, as things in the world are constantly changing and things can always be improved. Even great surgeons practicing for 20 years can improve. Please do not be closed to making things better. RiverLake97 (talk) 16:44, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * can you point out other U.S. cities that measure distance from New York City? It doesn't often happen, because people can't easily visualize 460 miles, nor is that a nearby city to have a reference point to, and it overinflates the importance of New York. As well, your viewpoint is as a Russian, so you clearly do not see what Ohioans find relevant - distance between Ohio cities. ɱ  (talk) 16:50, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * My point is, more people know where NYC is than know where Columbus, Ohio is---so a location relevant to NYC is more useful than that of one from Columbus. Regarding "As well, your viewpoint is as a Russian, so you clearly do not see what Ohioans find relevant - distance between Ohio cities", as I said above, the number of people looking at the Cleveland page from Ohio is far less than then number of people outside of Ohio. Ohio has 11.8 million people and the world has 7.9 billion people. Hence, Ohio makes up 0.15% of the world's population. RiverLake97 (talk) 16:58, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * If I told you Ioannina is 254 miles northwest of Athens, what do you do with this information? Does it really help you understand Ionnina's place in Greece, when it's in a completely different part of the country? There are better reference points, and your ideas of who is viewing this page is pure speculation. I would also speculate plenty more Midwesterners are reading it than people in other countries, and Midwesterners could care a fuck all about New York City in this context. ɱ  (talk) 18:25, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * RiverLake97, please respect that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a travel guide. Typically, the distance to the state capital, county seat or next largest city are given.   Not the distance to New York or Paris. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:23, 9 January 2023 (UTC)