User talk:Riversider2008

I've archived a few old discussions, a discussion around the NPOV dispute about the Mornington Crescent article which I feel has been resolved satisfactorily, and a helpful suggestion from another editor that I learn how to indent my talkpage contributions - I've worked out how to do this, and I can see it definitely helps with the readability of discussions.

In other news, I've registered myself as a 'Recent Changes' Patroller, I'm not technically minded, so I definitely belong to the 'old school' here. Nevertheless I think I've managed to clean up a fair amount of pointless vandalism, while being very calm and civil during the process. You will also see on my userpage that I've also signed up for the 'Counter Vandalism Unit' - basically because I love the cleaning lady logo.

It must be quite discouraging for someone who thinks it's clever to put in multiple factual errors and insults onto a Wikipedia article to find that their work has been reverted witnin 10 minutes of it being published - disappearing like a stone into a pond, but without the ripples. Finding that their hard work creates no impact whatsoever is definitely the best response this kind of vandal can receive. Riversider2008 (talk) 14:34, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Games with concealed rules
Not sure what you mean; I just realised that you'd explained your edits on Talk:List of games with concealed rules, shortly after making them, so I thought I'd take the discussion there. Sorry for giving you one or more bogus new-message alerts. --McGeddon (talk) 16:41, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem at all McG. I've found you to be someone who is prepared to listen to a well-argued case, even when your instinct is to disagree. Riversider2008 (talk) 16:47, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Flagged Revisions
'''"You can edit this page right now" is a core guiding check on everything that we do. We must respect this principle as sacred.''' Let's not retreat from this excellent and principled position with moves that divide our community.Riversider2008 (talk) 13:49, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

My Signature
Has changed. I'm still the same person. Riversider2008 has been updated for the new year River sider ( talk ) 22:50, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Help me out?
I know you've been trying to find a compromise on FR, and wondered if you could help edit up User:Fritzpoll/BLPFlaggedRevs before I project-space it. Fritzpoll (talk) 16:23, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

GA Delisting of Jimmy Wales
Riversider 2008, I have reverted your edits to the GA page. You removed the listing for Jimmy Wales, with an edit summary that implied that you thought the article was no longer of GA quality. However, there has been no reassessment on the article page (see WP:GAR) that would remove it's status of GA. If you wish to conduct an individual GAR, you are welcome to, or you can bring the article to a community reassessment. However, you may not just remove articles from the GA page without prior discussion. Please drop a note on my talk page if you have any questions. Dana boomer (talk) 02:18, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Got it Dana, I'm now following the procedure you suggested. Thanks.River sider ( talk ) 02:20, 17 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Riversider2008, thank you for your efforts here. For what it is worth, I agree with you completely.  I think, in particular, that the ongoing highlighting of something entirely unimportant and barely mentioned anywhere else ("co-founder" pseudo-controversy) in the lead is just idiotic  Is this really the most important component of my life story?  I can't think of any rational argument that would support this - and certainly the press doesn't think so.  I have been noted in the press for many interesting and likely important things, and this is really "inside baseball".  I haven't read the article today - but even at a glance it is already starting to look better thanks to you bringing it to people's attention.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 20:14, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

June 2010
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 * Seems my intervention on this topic is not appreciated, despite the considerable number of published sources I've cited, and it's been suggested that I 'DROP IT'. In the interests of general conviviality, I'm happy to 'COOL IT' for a while on this issue. River sider ( talk ) 16:26, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Morning Star in the Labour Party article
I have edited your contribution because the Morning Star article didn't use terms like "subservience". See what you think. RoyalBlueStuey (talk) 17:05, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Your edit is absolutely correct RBS - rather an unencyclopedic word to have crept in there! River sider ( talk )
 * No worries Sir, always apreciate good collaboration like this RoyalBlueStuey (talk) 14:36, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Blue Labour
Thanks for your lovely comment on my talk page :) Roscelese (talk &sdot; contribs) 15:43, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi, I just found this article and wanted to say good work. Incidentally, I wasn't actually trying to be humerous. I heard the expression used with reference to Cameron shortly after the election, and seem to recall it was a commentator who used it. It's possible he was being humerous, I suppose, but it sort of fitted in with the whole Heir to Blair thing where Cameron was trying to position himself on a similar platform to Tony Blair. I haven't heard it used since last May, so I'm guessing it never really caught on. Happy editing, anyway. Cheers TheRetroGuy (talk) 14:03, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Retroguy, thanks for the comments, sorry if my editing comment implied any lack of good faith, this certainly wasn't intentional. River sider ( talk ) 15:43, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries. TheRetroGuy (talk) 18:31, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi there, thanks for your great work on our Blue Labour article. If you havent already got it, Id recommend Tangled Up in Blue (2011 book) as an excellent source. Have been looking around and every single reviewer seems to think very highly of it, even those who rightly criticize Blue Labour's Hayeck inspired economic nonsense. FeydHuxtable (talk) 13:28, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Blue Labour
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DYK for Emerentia
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May 2012
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Liberal Democrats. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement. Please be particularly aware, Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Jeremy (talk) 19:57, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically "entitled" to three reverts.
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
 * Thanks for raising with me that my edits appear to look like an 'edit war'. I've taken my argument to the talk page as you suggest Jeremy River sider ( talk ) 21:43, 15 May 2012 (UTC)


 * My apologies if I was overly brusque with you. I was frustrated that the edit war that has been going on for a number of weeks was continuing even after I had blocked the two main protagonists.—Jeremy (talk) 17:32, 16 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks Jeremy, the compromise I've proposed on the talk page has not yet been objected to, I'm hoping that this particular, and rather silly, war is over. River sider ( talk ) 13:05, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

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