User talk:Rjwilmsi/Archives/2010/October

AutoWikiBrowser
Dear Rjwilmsi, I'm a regular user on enwiki and wanted to create an AWB check page on a wiki of other language. The problem is I don't have the Sysop flag on that preferred wiki. How could I possibly create a check page and protect it without being a sysop on that wiki? And when I'm using AWB on other wikis, is there any way to change the word "using" on the edit summary to something different (i mean to translate the word "using" to other languages)? Hope for a prompt reply from you. Best, Arteyu ?  Blame it on me ! 14:35, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 * We are able to localise the "using" part of the edit summary if you provide translations (we have several done already). If you need the check page protected you'll have to find an admin on that wiki to do it for you. Rjwilmsi  21:17, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Can you change the word "using" to "|en|menggunakan menggunakan" in mswiki and mswiktionary? Would be very glad if you could do that. Arteyu ?  Blame it on me ! 23:52, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ for next AWB release. Rjwilmsi  07:23, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you! When will the new version be released? By the way, is there any existing coding that should I use to automatically replace hyphens with endashes for tennis scores when doing page cleanup (e.g. 6-1, 6-2 → 6–1, 6–2)? Have tried changing the setting numerous of times but it still does not work (You can view this edit for example). And why does AWB keep removing the html coding on articles? Is there any way to disable it? Arteyu ?  Blame it on me ! 08:30, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * New version release is imminent. There's no tennis score dash logic at present. In the case of those small tags the text ought to be quote in the reference, that text should not be smaller than the rest of the reference. Small tags are removed for a WP:CHECKWIKI rule. Rjwilmsi  08:45, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm, but AWB did made hyphens to endashes replacement for "years"? Can it (the tennis scores hyphens → endashes changes) be included in the next AWB release? Need to use it on thousands of tennis articles to comply with MOS:DASH policy. Arteyu ?  Blame it on me ! 09:44, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Request
Can you send the bot to cover the bare refs in Special Tribunal for Lebanon? Thanks.Lihaas (talk) 01:34, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I've done what I can by script. Rjwilmsi  07:30, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Persondata
It's good to be adding the format for persondata, but I find the wording of your edit summaries misleading. You've said "(Persondata completion using AWB (7225))", but in most cases the persondata is by no means complete. In most cases the bot has added only the name, so other information such as place of birth and date of birth is missing, even if present in the article. Could you find some less misleading wording, so perhaps "Persondata inclusion" instead of "Persondata completion"? David Biddulph (talk) 07:50, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I've changed it to "Adding Persondata". Rjwilmsi  13:02, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. That's a good move.  David Biddulph (talk) 15:12, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Also re persondata, in cases like this where the article contains Category:1919 births and Category:1985 deaths, is there any reason why the birth/death years are not being added to the persondata template? Dr pda (talk) 23:53, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I've configured the current logic to only add the date fields if the full date is available in the infobox or bda template etc. When I revisit the logic for a second round I'll consider adding just years from birth/death categories, but the persondata documentation isn't clear if this is desired or not. Rjwilmsi  07:11, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I think persondata which has even only the year of birth/death is more useful than persondata which has only the name. And anyway there are people whose birth and death dates are not known more precisely than the year, or even the century. (The examples at Persondata demonstrate this.) Dr pda (talk) 21:23, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Added persondata is visible
Persondata for article Motoi Sakuraba was added but is actually visible on the bottom of the page. Can you correct this? Editor017935 (talk) 17:42, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Done, album table wasn't closed properly (problem existed before bot edit to add persondata). Rjwilmsi  17:48, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick fix! Editor017935 (talk) 18:24, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Smile!
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Alexander McQueen (brand)
Hello. I have noticed what you did with the Alexander McQueen designer page, which was very good. Can you do the same for the Alexander McQueen (brand) page which I wrote?Reqluce (talk) 23:52, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

About the NYT citation for A Midnight Clear
Hi there. I noticed that you've tagged the NYT citation for A Midnight Clear as a dead link. The link is actually working, just needs users' free registration with nytimes.com. Is it OK if I remove the tag? Artoasis (talk) 05:41, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The registration page should not cause the citation to be marked as a dead link, since the bot is checking for a 404 HTTP (page not found) response. However that's exactly what the page is returning, so I've disabled dead link addition for NY Times pages – they don't have their website configured properly. Rjwilmsi  07:41, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick response, and all the really great work you've done. BTW, this bot you have is so cool, :) Artoasis (talk) 08:25, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Few false positives
Not sure if you keep track of false positives or can do anything about them, but if you do/can there were some here. Best, Rambo's Revenge (talk)  10:19, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Apologies, I'll look into it. Rjwilmsi  15:02, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Now sorted out. Rjwilmsi  21:43, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Bot changing author to San Francisco?
Why is the bot changing the author to be Francisco, San? Most confusing, -- Cirt (talk) 18:35, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Because if you compare to a similar The Age article like this one the line of San Francisco is the author plus location, or apparently just the location. I will add an exception to handle this situation. Rjwilmsi  20:43, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Is there a way for the bot itself to go back and fix this? I think I may have seen this across multiple pages. -- Cirt (talk) 20:49, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * In my log files that page is the only occurrence of the author being set to San Francisco (in last 10 days of bot's editing). I don't have a way to readily detect other locations being misused as author. Rjwilmsi  20:51, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I think it was more than 10 days ago. Can you set the bot to check for last=Fransisco|first=San - and then remove those instances? -- Cirt (talk) 21:01, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * All I have from the log files starting late September was an earlier occurrence on the same wiki page (which you didn't notify me about), and no matches in the September database dump. Rjwilmsi  21:43, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Questin about the use of AWB
I am trying to get WikiProject United States going again and I was wondering what the policy is on the use of AWB to post a WikiProject notification on the talk pages of a couple hundred users. Is that something that is appropriate? I really dont want to do it manually unless I have too. --Kumioko (talk) 17:27, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * AWB usage policy is not my area. Maybe speak to an admin. IMHO do what you want. Rjwilmsi  22:08, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I guess if someone doesn't like it theyll let me know and Ill stop. --Kumioko (talk) 02:06, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Infobox background color on Scott Ian
I would appreciate your opinion at Talk:Scott Ian since you recently changed the color there. Thank you, Aspects (talk) 06:13, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Persondata
Is there any way you can set an exception for how it handles noble titles (or exclude them altogether)? It seems to be generating a lot of wrong results when it tries to handle "name, title" pages, generally treating the title as a surname (,, , , today alone). – iridescent  16:25, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Name value is taken from the DEFAULTSORT, so they must be wrong. If you would like to correct the DEFAULTSORT I can refresh the PersonData. Rjwilmsi  16:30, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Looking at the histories, it looks like the DEFAULTSORTs have been added by various bots (and people) at various times, so there's no easy way to bulk-undo them. I don't propose to manually amend them; we're talking over 17,000 articles in Category:Nobility of the United Kingdom alone, all of which would need manually to be checked. Hopefully if anyone's watching the articles they'll fix them as and when it happens. – iridescent  17:02, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * For the moment I will skip pages with " of " or an ordinal number in the title to avoid such cases. I will then think about how we can get this cleanup done. Rjwilmsi  17:28, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

possible Caps issue for states
Good afternoon good sir. With all the capitalization-mania going on lately I thought I would drop this here vice the bugs page. I have had a few pages lately where AWB is trying to capitalize states that are within a web address and I dont think we want to do that. Here is one example. --Kumioko (talk) 19:52, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Post on the typos talk page then. Rjwilmsi  19:54, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Roger that, itll be there momentarily. --Kumioko (talk) 19:56, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Detemplate logic for Persondata
When you added logic to AWB to detemplate City-State from within persondata did you also do Birth and death dates? I was going to do a feature request but though this might have already been done. --Kumioko (talk) 13:55, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * No, but it's on my to-do list. Rjwilmsi  15:58, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks. I won't bother to add it then. Here's some logic I came up with if it helps.

I have 8 different variations of Birth date and Birth date and age and 12 between death date and death date and age but I only posted 1 as an example. I figured you probably knew a better way of coding it so it doesnt take as many variations (and I still don't think I got them all BTW, I just add as I find them).

Find

Replace --Kumioko (talk) 16:29, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Strange name: Clemente changed to Clementi
the bot has changed Clemente to "Clementi" - a totally uncommon, wrong first name-- see page history of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clem_Cattini (E-Kartoffel (talk) 15:28, 24 October 2010 (UTC)).
 * No, absolutely not. The change you refer to was by the IP edit after my bot's. Please be more careful before making claims of errors. Rjwilmsi  15:53, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Dave Winfield
Hi, there appears to be a template issue on his page at "place of birth, St Paul" which I can't get rid of... could you please take a look? Hotcop2 (talk) 16:59, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * All uses of that template are affected since it's listed at Templates_for_discussion, so there's nothing you can do. Rjwilmsi  20:57, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Cleanup templates
User:Rich Farmbrough/temp102
 * Thanks, loaded, with some corrections done. Rjwilmsi  09:15, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

citaiton needed
Probably of no consequence, but it case you haven't noticed: there's a typo in your edit summaries, like this one Happy editing, Finn Rindahl (talk) 11:38, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Doh! I'd made the same comment to another editor only a few days ago. Thanks, now corrected, though it was of no consequence to the actual edits. Rjwilmsi  11:40, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Billy Ritchie
Thank you very much for your help on this page, still some work to do (as I'm sure you know better than I do!). Categories are one thing I haven't dealt with yet Matthew.hartington (talk) 22:00, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Clyde Lucas
I noticed you added background=non_vocal_instrumentalist to the infobox for this subject. I have no problem with that, since he was primarily an instrumentalist. But occasionally he did sing, as in, although not nearly as often as, for example, Louis Armstrong. Is there some rule to clarify the choice in cases like this? Aymatth2 (talk) 17:39, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * It's documented at Template:Infobox_musical_artist, change it if you feel it better matches the documentation. Rjwilmsi  17:41, 26 October 2010 (UTC)


 * That seems to imply that if they sang at all, they are "solo_singer". But that does not seem right in this case. I will leave it. I was just curious because now and then I have started an article on a musician, and never knew the parameter existed - let alone that it was mandatory. Aymatth2 (talk) 17:51, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Feel free to start a discussion on the template's talk page if you reckon the documentation isn't clear enough (I somewhat agree with you in this example). Rjwilmsi  17:57, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

RjwilmsiBot
Hi. This has added a personal data box to the Jonathan Pedley page that is invisible. Is it supposed to work that way? Unknown Unknowns (talk) 15:55, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, see Persondata. Rjwilmsi  11:32, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

AfD
Please see: Articles for deletion/Raëlian Church membership estimates. You are the second or third most active editor with your 2 edits. :-) -Steve Dufour (talk) 13:44, 30 October 2010 (UTC)