User talk:Rjwilmsi/Archives/2011/September

Question about your bot
Greetings to you. I was just wondering what I would need to do to unleash your bot on the articles within the scope of WikiProject United States. I asked the same question of citation bot but I think both bots do a few different things. Thanks in advance. --Kumioko (talk) 20:20, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Greetings RJ. I was just wondering if you had considered this or not. --Kumioko (talk)
 * Which bot task are you talking about? Rjwilmsi  09:18, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Mostly the Rjwilmsi bot that fixes the citatons but frankly Im not sure what else it does. --Kumioko (talk) 22:40, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * If you have time running the Persondata bot might also be good. I have been finding quite a few in the US articles with updates. --Kumioko (talk) 04:43, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Help with editing adult stem cell page
I've noticed that the Plasticity/Adult stem cell pluripotency section of the article on adult stem cells ends with VSEL  however before Kucia et al discovered these cells, a professor by the name of Henry Young had already discovered them including another type of more naive stem cells called BLSCs. I wanted to add this paragraph to the section, just after the VSEL info, but don't know how to? Here is the text:

Another discovery by Young et al has identified a similar small pluripotent, or even totipotent stem cell residing in most mammalian tissues. These cells termed Blastomere Like Stem Cells (BLSCs) have shown pluripotent potential by way of expressing cell surface markers such as CEACAM, CD66e, SSEA -1, SSEA-3, SSEA-4 and transcription factors Oct 3/4, Nanog and Nanos. This stem cell displays a phenotypic characteristic of being extremely small at less that 2 to 3 microns in size and has a normal karyotype. Additionally culture of these cells has shown at least 66 specialist precursor cell development as well as potential gamete formation.

You can find proof and reference of this on these journals Adult-derived stem cells and their potential for use in tissue repair and molecular medicine., Karyotypic analysis of adult pluripotent stem cells. and Differential potential of adult stem cells.

Would it be possible for you to help me do that please? Thanks Tayamoz (talk) 13:29, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I've no particular knowledge of the stem cell article you refer to, though I can help you get those references to the existing format of the article. Rjwilmsi  17:36, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for AWB help
Hi Rjwilmsi - Thanks for all your help with my recent AWB bug reports! Sorry for not picking up on the fact that the issue with Fast Five was a missing brace. GoingBatty (talk) 16:59, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Need to add sme tests
Can you please some some test that show that sections named "Introduction" etc. are removed if they are leading sections? -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:20, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * . You can clone that single test to add more for the other headings (add tests within TestFixHeadingsBadHeaders). Rjwilmsi  17:44, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

please help
HI, I found some Anonymous IP adress are Break this article : Kuomintang, please take ACTION to stop it, thanks.219.85.124.116 (talk) 12:33, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

bot change to Carrie Buck
this is about this diff

This isn't exactly a mistake, but it's not quite right either. What do you recommend? &mdash; alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 02:43, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I see. There's no need to put the url in a separate citation. I've merged the two, which is the normal way to do things. Rjwilmsi  06:38, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * thanks. i'll do it that way from now on. &mdash; alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 07:13, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Double spaces between words
Is there some reason why your bot added double spaces between words in this edit? diff

Perhaps it has something to do with the names of the publications being mentioned in the text of the article -- Foetusized (talk) 19:32, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * There was no change to word spacing in that edit. The apparent change in spacing in the diff is due to the limitations of the MediaWiki default diff display; Cacycle's diff is better in that regard. Rjwilmsi  01:28, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It was not an "apparent change" in spacing; extra spaces were added by the bot. The following edit removed them, and added italics to the publications' names. You can see the double spacing in the code in this edit view: -- Foetusized (talk) 03:46, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Foetusized - It appears that the double spacing was added in this edit on August 30 by another editor. Happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 04:05, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Double spaces are rendered as single spages in the output; an editor once objected that my script was replacing double spaces with single spaces, saying double spaces are more legible in edit mode. -- Ohconfucius  ¡digame! 10:23, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

CiteCompletion
Hi there. What do I need to do in order to have access to CiteCompletion? I just received access to AWB, and just need to add CiteCompletion as a Custom module (C#). I'm not sure where to proceed from here. I've looked |here but am still confused. Any tips would be appreciated. Kind regards,  R uby   comment!  03:19, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It's my own custom module rather than something that comes with AWB. Due to the complexity it's not something that I'm happy for others to be using, though if you have certain articles you'd like me to run it on do let me know. Rjwilmsi  08:04, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh I see. No worries. I just thought it would be a general, useful tool to have. If I come across any articles that really could use some help, I'll let you know. Thanks!  R uby   comment!  15:59, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

A lot of the US presidential campaign articles are in pretty bad shape, reference formatting-wise. Would you be so kind and go through them with CiteCompletion? The articles get a lot of exposure. They are:
 * Mitt Romney presidential campaign, 2012
 * Rick Perry presidential campaign, 2012
 * Ron Paul presidential campaign, 2012
 * Jon Huntsman presidential campaign, 2012
 * Barack Obama presidential campaign, 2012

I'm sure there are other campaign articles too (though on lesser profile candidates) that you could also go through if so inclined. Thanks!  R uby  comment!  16:20, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you
Hi, just wanted to drop you a note to thank you for correcting my NYPost source info on the David Copperfield article. I tried very hard to post source info in the correct format but as you can see I'm still learning, so thanks again! :) TheMagicOfDC (talk) 14:39, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Question
Hi. I am Jivesh. I wanted to know if you run CiteCompletion on articles on request? Jivesh   &bull;  Talk2Me  07:47, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I can do. Rjwilmsi  07:48, 12 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Can you please run it on


 * Beyoncé Knowles
 * I Am... Sasha Fierce
 * 4 (Beyoncé Knowles album)
 * Run the World (Girls)
 * Best Thing I Never Had
 * Party (song)
 * Love on Top
 * Crazy in Love (Beyoncé Knowles song)
 * Baby Boy (Beyoncé Knowles song)
 * Me, Myself and I (Beyoncé Knowles song)
 * Naughty Girl (Beyoncé Knowles song)
 * Check on It
 * Déjà Vu (Beyoncé Knowles song)
 * Ring the Alarm
 * Irreplaceable
 * Beautiful Liar
 * Get Me Bodied
 * Green Light (Beyoncé Knowles song)
 * If I Were a Boy
 * Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)
 * Diva (Beyoncé Knowles song)
 * Halo (Beyoncé Knowles song)
 * Ego (Beyoncé Knowles song)
 * Sweet Dreams (Beyoncé Knowles song)
 * Broken-Hearted Girl
 * Video Phone (song)
 * Hollywood (Jay-Z song)
 * Amor Gitano
 * Love in This Club Part II
 * Work It Out (Beyoncé Knowles song)
 * Fighting Temptation
 * Listen (song)
 * Daddy (Beyoncé Knowles song)
 * Summertime (Beyoncé Knowles song)
 * Upgrade U
 * Why Don't You Love Me (Beyoncé Knowles song)
 * 1+1 (song)
 * Ave Maria (Beyoncé Knowles song)
 * Dangerously in Love 2
 * The Closer I Get to You
 * '03 Bonnie & Clyde
 * I Got That
 * Put It in a Love Song
 * Suga Mama
 * Kitty Kat (song)
 * Freakum Dress
 * Resentment (song)
 * Flaws and All
 * Kissing You (Des'ree song)
 * Radio (Beyoncé Knowles song)
 * I Miss You (Beyoncé Knowles song)
 * Countdown (Beyoncé Knowles song)
 * End of Time (Beyoncé Knowles song)
 * I Was Here (song)

Jivesh   &bull;  Talk2Me  07:57, 12 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot for having started. Jivesh    &bull;  Talk2Me  09:50, 12 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I hope you will continue? Please. Jivesh boodhun (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 11:48, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It's already run on the list above. A number of pages weren't changed. Rjwilmsi  16:41, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much. Jivesh boodhun (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 18:32, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Date
I see your bot has been adding the date to a number of citation on articles such as here. The date it has added is the 19 April 2009, and the bot has added the same on a number of such pages, for the same type of BBC reference. I cannot figure out where the bot is getting that date from as that BBC page was created for the 2010 election, certainly not back in April 2009, unless I'm missing something? Davewild (talk) 18:27, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * That BBC page's meta data says it has an original publication date of 19 April 2009. Tools -> Page Info shows it in Firefox. Rjwilmsi  18:34, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh ok, thanks anyway, just seemed odd. Davewild (talk) 18:39, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Same with this edit. We do not put dates in with the first publication but with the most recent one. If we did not do this then books and articles would always be set to their first edition. Further in this case:

Whatever the meta data on the page says the date is before the invention of the WWW so it is not credible as the page is a web page and not a newspaper article. -- PBS (talk) 22:12, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

There is another serious problem with this type of edit. There was and is a year parameter in the citation which is now hidden by the date parameter, and although the short citation will still work, the year that appears on the short citation and the year in the general reference are now different which causes visual problems. There are other bots that go around removing this duplication and that will then break the short citations. So I think that this type of automated edit is a bad idea because the meta data is not necessarily accurate (for example did you look at the copyright on the page? It is set to 2007 which contradicts the meta data, and it is likely that the copyright notice is more accurate than the meta data) and it can have unforeseen consequences with short citaitons. -- PBS (talk) 22:21, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree that's it's a (potential) problem if year and date are in contradiction, so I'll add validation to not set a date if it contradicts an existing year. In the case of a web page put online to cover a story originally published on TV, I suppose we would ideally split to origyear and date, though we'd then need to use citation to have the extra field available. Rjwilmsi  07:21, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Request
Hi. Can you please run CiteCompletion on Heat? Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 10:44, 18 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Please do it. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 09:00, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I ran it, there were no changes. Rjwilmsi  17:12, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Jivesh 1205 (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:35, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Question
I added big chunk of information to the List of best-selling music artists immediately after which the entire section of references disappeared. I changed the previous ((Reflist|2)) to ((Reflist|30em)), but that didn't seem to help the refs to re-appear. Since you were at that page not long ago, could you please re-visit and see if you could fix the problem that I may have created. Thanks in advance.--Harout72 (talk) 19:21, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * There is a limit to the number of templates that can be used on a page. If that page is now up to ~500 cite webs it will be too many. Rjwilmsi  19:56, 24 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I didn't know that it was limited to 500. I reduced the number of citations, now the ref. section has re-appeared. Thanks.--Harout72 (talk) 21:14, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Bot bug
Whilst it's not clear whether or not the bot should have changed to "french style" quotes in a reference title or not (see Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style), it would have been in error either way since the resultant quote is within quotes when the citation template expands it .....

A bit obscure - thought you might be able to do something with this. Thanks.Imgaril (talk) 23:25, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The section at MOS:QUOTATION_MARK explains that guillemets should be converted whether within a quote or not. Rjwilmsi  23:34, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

FixHeading bug
User_talk:Yobot. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:34, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Rjwilmsi 08:37, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ty. See you in some months. --Magioladitis (talk) 09:05, 26 September 2011 (UTC)