User talk:Rjwilmsi/Archives/2016/December

Reference errors on 14 December
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 * On the Andrew Kasarskis page, [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=754838509 your edit] caused an unsupported parameter error (help) . ([ Fix] | [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&preload=User:ReferenceBot/helpform&preloadtitle=Referencing%20errors%20on%20%5B%5BSpecial%3ADiff%2F754838509%7CAndrew Kasarskis%5D%5D Ask for help])

Reference errors on 16 December
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Reference errors on 18 December
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Reference errors on 19 December
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Reference errors on 20 December
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 * On the Proteinuria page, [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=755869786 your edit] caused a redundant parameter error (help) . ([ Fix] | [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&preload=User:ReferenceBot/helpform&preloadtitle=Referencing%20errors%20on%20%5B%5BSpecial%3ADiff%2F755869786%7CProteinuria%5D%5D Ask for help])
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Journal cites: format pubmed cite
There was an oops with your regex. It was leaving double. See Bloodletting and Chitin. CheckWiki was picking them up. I fixed over 20 today. Will fix the rest when they pop up, unless there are tons of them. Bloodletting is an appropriate article for my week. Being called a negative to the encyclopedia and worthless by two different people is similar to an extreme bloodletting. Bgwhite (talk) 08:41, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah, that wasn't too clever! Thanks, rechecking my contributions looks like you corrected all but one. On the wider matters, I find there are people who want to work in a constructive and collaborative way, even with those they disagree with or have different views from, and avoid getting sidetracked from that core approach. Then there is a whole spectrum of others who don't want to work in that way, so I tend to avoid anybody not in the first group when possible. On the particular issue of Yobot etc. I do think there's a fundamental issue that the bot (and others perhaps) doesn't have comprehensive checks to ensure the error to be fixed is present and gets fixed. That leads to trivial edits, false positives, multiple edits to same page etc. that then cause all the complaints and debates about redirects etc. but really the issue is just not having the right checks. I would have thought that the CHECKWIKI regexes etc. could be re-used by the bot to apply such checks. Unfortunately it seems Magioladitis isn't willing, so what should in my mind be a relatively simple technical issue of getting help to apply and refine some scripted checks turns into, effectively but perhaps not recognized as such, a philosophical debate on individual editor freedom versus community policy enforcement (reminds me of classic political debate as to how much freedom you will give the state so it can enforce your other freedoms). And on that debate of course we've been going since 500 BC or so with no single right answer yet... Rjwilmsi  09:49, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Reference errors on 23 December
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AWB ref reordering
Thank you for removing the white space between subheadings from AWB. 

Would you please also remove reference reordering? You added it to AWB in February 2009 after a discussion between three editors (one of whom opposed it) and yourself. There have been complaints about it ever since. These are examples of threads: April 2010, Nov 2012, May 2013, Sept 2013, Feb 2014, Feb 2015, May 2015, Nov 2015.

You told me in 2015 that you would remove it if I could demonstrate that there was no consensus for it. An RfC for that purpose has just ended; see RfC: AWB bot ref reordering. The RfC hasn't yet been summarized by an uninvolved editor, but it's clear that consensus is against. For the figures, see User:SlimVirgin/draft. SarahSV (talk) 15:21, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * No specific discussion between us two needed. If the RFC concludes ref reordering must not be part of AWB genfixes for en-wiki then the admin closing the RFC should raise a phabricator ticket for AWB requesting the functionality is disabled (I'm assuming en-wiki was the scope of the RFC). I'll then action that ticket. Rjwilmsi  15:34, 20 December 2016 (UTC)


 * You are making us jump through hoops to have something removed for which there was no consensus in the first place. SarahSV (talk) 15:40, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Not really. The RFC was poorly worded, and it is clear from many of the comments that a significant number of contributors did not understand what was being asked.
 * It is to be hoped that any closer would take these factors into account.
 * All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:17, 20 December 2016 (UTC).


 * The RfC has been closed, and I have opened a request on phabricator: SarahSV (talk) 18:53, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

AutoWikiBrowser — insource:/subst:/ fails for me
Is it just me, or is there a flaw in insource: searches that searching for substitution code fails? In "Wiki search (text) (all NS)" I have tried variations (trials at English Wikisource) and all failed. If I need to log a phabricator ticket, please let me know. Thanks. — billinghurst  sDrewth  01:55, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
 * insource:/subst:/
 * insource:/subst:/i
 * insource:/subst\:/
 * Oh, I just noted that there hasn't been an update since October, so it may be in the fix T147291 so I will try a hot version. — billinghurst  sDrewth  01:59, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Fail. I thought that there were versions available that were not SVN, but I couldn't find them. Do you have a planned release? — billinghurst  sDrewth  02:04, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
 * It's fixed in next release; next release should be soon but isn't done by me. Rjwilmsi  09:53, 29 December 2016 (UTC)