User talk:Rkitko/Archive22

Linda D. Thompson
I note you deleted a facebook page reference showing a group whose aim is in seeking the resignation of the mayor citing it as an "unreliable" source. Why? It was not a reference to anything that she is doing but simply a viewpoint of citizens. Also as far as "unreliable" goes wouldn't that by necessity include the deletion of wikipedia? Most educational institutions will not allow the usage of the site as reference material. Thanks, Paul. 71.176.35.69 (talk) 16:39, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * To understand the removal, see WP:RELIABLE where our criteria for reliability of sources is explained. For articles about living persons, there are even more stringent criteria. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:58, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Exactly as 'Petey said. You need a reliable source that discusses the existence of citizen opposition to Thompson. Surely there is some newspaper article on this (if the journalists are doing their jobs correctly). Rkitko (talk) 17:37, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

MOS discussion that may be of interest
Because of your previous input on various iterations of the debate about the lower-casing vs. capitalization of the common names of animals (domestic cat, blue whale vs. Domestic Cat, Blue Whale), you may be interested in this thread proposing key points that should be addressed by the guidelines: WT:Manual of Style. — SMcCandlish  Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ  Contribs. 05:50, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Revision history of Sequoia sempervirens
Hi, we're the first company to do commercial-scale propagation and planting of Coast Redwood in New Zealand, which is the culmination of about 15+ years of research. Until yesterday, the Sequoia sempervirens page referenced our website http://www.soperwheeler.com so people could learn more, and we would regularly get a good amount of traffic from Wikipedia.

We recently updated our website which caused the Wikipedia link to be pointed at a page that had been deleted, so I updated the link on Wikipedia yesterday (no additions, no content change).

User Tom Hulse then completely erased the entire passage, marking it as spam. As the passage had been there for a couple of years, our website is informational in nature, and we don't sell anything to the general public, I undid that edit this morning, only to have it deleted again.

How would you suggest I reinstate the link in a manner that's consistent with Wiki-etiquette? I don't understand your comment "don't link in-line like that ([[WP:EL), and the reference given doesn't say any of this that was added)"

Thanks!

-Dan Dan Kruger (talk) 00:48, 10 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Dan, thanks for your note here. First, I might mention that you appear to have a conflict of interest, a guideline that you should examine. Beyond that issue, external links are discouraged from being presented in-text that way. There is an external links section at the bottom of the article for that purpose. You may also want to check out our external link guidelines, paying attention to links to be avoided. As a commercial link, I agree with Tom that it doesn't seem to belong on the article. However, if your research or company has been written about in reliable sources like newspapers or in scholarly journals, it would certainly help expand on the content already present in that cultivation section. Cheers, Rkitko (talk) 01:39, 10 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Hey thanks for the info- we'll be working to expand that section soon Dan Kruger (talk) 02:27, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Carnivorous plant books
Yeah, I figured there was a gap to fill, especially with Taylor's work and all the articles that cited it. I've got a few more CP book articles lined up (Lowrie's Carnivorous Plants of Australia being next on my list), but I received McPherson's humongous New Nepenthes just yesterday so will be preoccupied with that for the time being (lots of changes and additions to be made!). I'll take a look at the collapsible list discussion. mgiganteus1 (talk) 09:55, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

MSU Interview
Dear Rkitko,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.

So a few things about the interviews:
 * Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
 * Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)
 * All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.
 * All interviews will be completely voluntary. You are under no obligation to say yes to an interview, and can say no and stop or leave the interview at any time.
 * The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.

Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name HERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.

Sincerely,

Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) 07:26, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Young June Sah --Yjune.sah (talk) 04:19, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Revert of banned user
Re The ban is here.

Chemotype
I note that although this word does seem to be used (uncommonly) in mainstream biology texts it seems to have an entirely different meaning to the definition given. The claimed inventor of this term Pierre Franchomme seems to be associated only with the pseudoscientific topic of Aromatherapy. In it's current form the article is pure nonsense. --Salimfadhley (talk) 23:02, 14 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I see you removed the reference to aromatherapy. I support that. The rest of it is pretty close to my understanding from the sources I reviewed. Yes, it needs a bit of clean up, but I wouldn't call it nonsense. It's far from that. And the term is fairly widely used. Google Scholar shows > 12,000 hits, including this one from Nature . I'll see if I can clean it up a bit since I'm now curious where the term comes from. Rkitko (talk) 23:21, 14 March 2012 (UTC)


 * OK, lets let it stand. Thanks. --Salimfadhley (talk) 23:30, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Drosera uniflora
Greetings Rkitko. I and my two classmates are relatively new to editing Wikipedia. Anyway, we were assigned the task of finding an article to improve, and we found Drosera uniflora. It was rather scant and inactive so we chose it. One of the team members apparently uploaded a photo lacking proper licensing. I noticed that you removed it and are also interested in carnivorous plants. We are searching high and low for information on this plant and are finding very little. As this seems to be an area of interest of yours, I was wondering if you could point us to any web accessible information, or where we might find a suitable photo. Thanks for any help you could give. — Preceding unsigned comment added by G1956w (talk • contribs) 11:49, 26 March 2012 (UTC) Sorry, I'm new to this and forgot to sign. G1956w (talk) 11:53, 26 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello! Thanks for leaving a note here. I'm glad you chose Drosera uniflora for your project. Yes, the photo that was uploaded to Commons was originally uploaded to Flickr under the Creative Commons license, but Wikipedia has to make sure it's the proper CC license. The one on flickr stipulates the image must be used noncommercially and there must be no derivative works. While Wikipedia itself is non-profit, such a license is not "free enough" and thus all would be deleted. There are a few acceptable licenses, but one of the easiest ways I've found to get permission to post images is to ask the person from Flickr to change the license for that image so Wikipedia can use it. See more about image copyright licenses here: Image use policy.
 * As you've already noticed, there is usually little information out there on specific plants, especially ones that are not cultivated. Perhaps you've chosen the wrong article if you're not interested in diving into the library records. Finding information on some plants is often difficult and requires waiting on inter-library loan requests to arrive. I profess ignorance on the material available online about this species. You might try the articles that have been written in the Carnivorous Plant Newsletter that could have tidbits of information: http://www.carnivorousplants.org/cpn/Search.php. Best of luck! Rkitko (talk) 14:43, 27 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Wow, I was not expecting such a speedy and helpful response. We will try your Flickr advice! Amazing that you would mention an inter-library loan request; I just received my first book that way today. Thanks for the good advice! G1956w (talk) 02:45, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Hello again! I hate to bother you but I was hoping you could help with two more questions. It was suggested to me that with the recent additions Drosera uniflora could be upgraded from stub class to start class but I am unfamiliar with this. Is this something that I am expected to do? Also, I think we can get the proper permission for a decent photo, but I have seen better photos. Do you think it would be appropriate to link to them in the "External links" section? Thanks again. G1956w (talk) 23:37, 6 April 2012 (UTC)