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User:24.9.10.235
Hi! My IP is 24.9.10.235 and I at this time do not wish to set-up a Wikipedia account, but I do have some questions for you. Some time ago you noticed that I like to go into aircraft wiki articles and expand and improve them, and you suggested that I partake in the WikiAircraft Project. However, I am confused - is this a new WikiWiki site or is it merely a project to better expand and improve the articles present here in Wikipedia?

Romath
I left a note for you on the VfD page. I see that you're probably fully engaged in editing aircraft-related articles. And a good job too. However, if you're willing to edit Romath I'd support your edits. I'd never heard of this person until she started complaining here, but she does seem to be one of the major Usenet kooks, who receives many thousands of Google hits. Her primary complaint about the article seems to be the inclusion of her real name. If we could get a comprehensive (albeit concise) article then I wouldn't mind leaving out her name (even though it is a basic biographical detail) if it led to editing peace. Cheers, -Willmcw July 7, 2005 08:50 (UTC)

Ca.60
Nuke the page.

Thanks for the comments. Learning the various formating concepts has been slow for me, but I'm learning. Yes, when I noticed all the 'red' aircraft entries I could see there a lot to add. Fortunately I have a few old books that were useful, particularly the little book by Green on US fighters from World War II. The british were very go on putting such references together. I sort of sloft off the conversion in order to did in teh text. Little just have to spend a little more time on it!!

But, thanks again for the comments. They at least alert me to improve. It took me a little while, but I did pick on the _NOTOC_ after I saaw it on a few of my inputs. I do like it.

Wsk

Category:Military reconnaissance aircraft by nationality
If the category should not exist, please send it to CfD. Just removing the parent categories bounces it over to Category:Orphaned_categories. --Tabor 20:25, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Template flexibility

 * copied from User talk:Lommer

Hey Lommer - just curious about your comment about the flexibility of templates. What concerns do you have? Check out User David Newton's amazing work on the WikiProject Ship template. I now realise that we wouldn't need the dozen different templates I originally thought we would - we'd just need two (one metric-first, one non-metric first). Switching optional fields on and off (or swtiching a template between "Wingspan" and "Main rotor diameter") is a cinch, done the way he's done it. Rlandmann 01:07, 18 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Which ship template are you referring to? I was looking around but I didn't see one that obviously paralelled our aircraft specs table (the two articles mentioned on their project page, the ARA General Belgrano + Cutty Sark, use text based specs). Can you give me a specific link? -Lommer | talk 01:24, 18 July 2005 (UTC)


 * The template is here, but it's hard to get your head around until you work out what David's done. To see it in action, look at USS Nimitz (CVN-68), then at very different types of ships like RFA Wave Ruler (A390) and HMS Trafalgar (S107) rendered with the same template! --Rlandmann 01:30, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

parametrized templates with subtemplates
I think I've figured out how the ship one was constructed - I'm going to work on an inline (bottom of page) format using this that should work for military, civilian, jet, prop, etc. I'll let you know how it goes (it's going to be at Template:Airtemp-test). -eric &#9992; 04:42, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

yikes, wikimedia error. my bad.

-After some work, it appears that it's only possible to nest templates one level deep. This could make inline parameter-based templates difficult at best if true. -eric &#9992; 05:06, 18 July 2005 (UTC)-

As this running dialogue with myself develops, it turns out I can pass variables through to further templates. This is opening up a lot of possibilities! -eric &#9992; 05:25, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

I've got it working - and there's only a need for a single initial template. We can sort the rest from there, using 'starter' statements like David did. I've got two examples so far, both fixed wing (rotary can come next) - the metric-first military jet Eurofighter Typhoon and the imperial-first civilian prop Beech Bonanza. Take a look at the template details and we can figure out what to work in where. -eric &#9992; 06:28, 18 July 2005 (UTC)


 * I just spotted a potential issue - the quick [edit] links that wikipedia places will take users directly to the templates, rather than the article itself. A quick way around it would be to remove the aircraft's name in the Specifications (Model) area from the template, allowing that Edit link to go to the specs section.


 * Also, I'll do some mockup work with infobox alternatives. -eric &#9992; 06:39, 18 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Regardless of the survey results (and ignoring my dread of yet another standards change), we should actually be able to combine some existing templates with the specifications. Both the related links section - development, designation series, etc - and the standard footer could be easily added (to a bottom specs section), and the designation series could be done as an included set of parameters. I know I often leave those out because they're forgotten or I can't get information at the time, so perhaps placing all of the 'bottom' content in once spot could streamline things. Also, if infobox is chosen, I would be willing to support a minimalist bottom-located full-width infobox. -eric  &#9992; 03:14, 25 July 2005 (UTC)


 * I just swapped the template over to require units for both types that are passed through, eliminating a 'metric first' or 'metric second' set of subtemplates. This also will allow for a third unit to be used. for example, Cruise speed: 105 knots (121 mph, 194 km/h) would be passed to the template as:

|cruise main=105 knots
 * cruise alt=121 mph, 194 km/h


 * This simplifies matters a lot - especially for the occasional need for a third unit - although it will make changing primary units harder. Rather than changing "metric first=yes" to "metric first=no", an editor will need to swap the specifications from main to alt. Anyway, this is where I'm at so far. I'm thinking the best bet is to have a separate helicopter template, but adding a mixmaster (hybrid) subtemplate in addition to the jet/not-jet subtemplates will be an easy change. -eric &#9992; 03:40, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

a cleaner infobox
I've been sketching some stuff out and thinking about it, and even if the infobox became less hideous I don't think I could ever endorse it. It simply has too many accessibility and page layout issues for me to ever really accept it as a valid method. If the vote goes the way of the infobox again, which seems entirely likely right now, I think that I'd probably just stop including specifications in new articles. -eric &#9992; 19:37, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject Aircraft
Hi Rlandmann, just a quick note to say I've added my name to the participants list, you welcomed me way back when I first contributed (as H1523702). Let me know if there's anything in particular I can help you with. Cheers Mark 11:30, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * More human was what I was going for, though not very imaginative! I think "wade" was the right choice of word, but I'll try my best. Mark 19:44, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Abbreviation for knots
Hi,

You may wish to look at the discussion about the abbreviation for 'knot'. Thanks. Bobblewik 15:47, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

UH-60
Your page move lacked consensus (see talk page) and broke several redirects (made double redirects) which you didn't fix. I'm reverting your change. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 20:49, July 21, 2005 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see. I'll rollback my changes if you agree to go fix the double redirects and leave a note on the Talk page. :) --Dante Alighieri | Talk 00:20, July 22, 2005 (UTC)

World Community Grid
'''Hello, before you read on I would just like to say that I have so far only posted this to a limited amount of administrators for consultation. If you have any objections to its wider distribution or suitability for Wikipedia please let me know.'''

Hi, I would just like to invite you to find out about the World Community Grid Human Proteome Folding Project. This is a purely philanthropic project and supported by a "blue chip" corporation in IBM. There is an ability to join a team once you have downloaded the software and another user has already established the Wikipedia team.

I would like to emphasise that I do not want to pressure anybody into feeling obligated and I understand the limited computer resources/access available to some. Feel free to pass this message on and thank you very much for your time, Mark83 21:49, 26 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Significant objections have been raised to this. Mark83 10:34, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

British Bomber cats
The categories you have made for the bombers seem odd to me. While "chronologically" correct, it would seem to me that it would be much better organized into Interbellum, World War II and Post-war types. The overlap of these groupings is very limited, I think only the Whitley really falls into two, the Lincoln was arguably a WWII type and most others strictly pre-war.

Any arguments against a change?

Maury 13:01, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

Xiong and a discussion about templates
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alt.romath
I wanted to inform you that I wrote a stub article located at alt.romath. Any help expanding, researching and improving it would be appreciated - I believe you may have been around at the time. Hipocrite 21:00, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

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Ship table
I thought you might be interested to know that I have reformulated the ship table after I was made aware of an important advance in template syntax: someone has programmed IF capability into the language. I had essentially implemented that to do what I wanted to do with the template, but the way that I had done it was rather clumsy and somewhat of a kludge. The template is now much more elegant from a code point of view, and it is also much easier to follow what is going on with it when entering data. The functionality is essentially unaffected.

The IF capability in the template indeed means that, as I read it, it is actually easier to add things if we suddenly discover that something else is needed in the template. The reason for that is that the IF notation means that adding new functionality will not break the existing tables so far as I can see. Therefore we should not have to go round to all the tables that are already in place to alter them and add a new row. We simply add the code to the main template and then add the enabling code to the individual tables as needed. It's a further maintenance advantage of the new table over the old dispersed way of doing things. David Newton 20:57, 4 December 2005 (UTC)


 * BTW I've tested whether adding new functionality is possible without breaking existing tables, and the answer is that it can be done. David Newton 21:16, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

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DFS-194
I am preparing an article on DFS-194 aircraft and would like to know if you could share your references while you used on writing the DFS-194 section in Wikipedia.

My email address is: atrastella@hotmail.com

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Yours sincerely Turhan Gungor

Naming conventions for television shows (again)
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Canadair CL215
I created this article some time back. You moved it (also some time ago - I don't know why it did not show on my watchlist) to Canadair CL-215, but it appears as though you cut-and-pasted it, because the history of my creation did not follow. I note you have been a Wikipedian for some time, so you doubtless know that cut-and-paste edits do not preserve the history of an article. I am passing this along in the event you are not aware. No hard feelings. De nni &#9775; 02:26, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

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ABS Aircraft
Dear Rlandmann, today my friend Dr. K. Theile made me aware about the Wiki entry you seem to have created on ABS Aircraft AG. You state: " ABS Aircraft AG is a Swiss aircraft manufacturer, building Fournier-designed motorgliders. It was founded in Küsnacht in 1985 by Dr K Theile."

Nothing, except the name of the company, is correct. Dr. K. Theile has nothing to do with ABS Aircraft AG and has nothing to do with anything that is related to Aircraft or the Aircraft industry. I do not know what made you put his name on the Internet. ABS Aircraft AG was not founded in Küsnacht, it is registerd in Küsnacht. ABS Aircraft AG once owned the rights of a single Motorglider model designed by Rene Fournier, known as the RF-9 which ABS Aircraft AG sold to a Polish company some years ago who now modernise and commercialise the RF-9.

I would kindly ask you to delete this entire entry on ABS Aircraft AG.

Best regards

Dipl.-Ing. Klaus Blum Director and owner ABS Aircraft AG, Küsnacht

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If the file also doesn't have a copyright tag, then one should be added. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the GFDL-self tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media meets the criteria at Fair use, use a tag such as or one of the other tags listed at Image copyright tags. See Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following [ this link]. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the image is copyrighted under a non-free license (per Fair use) then the image will be deleted 48 hours after 17:28, 7 January 2007 (UTC). If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. cohesion 17:28, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Image tagging for Image:Beregovoi.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:Beregovoi.jpg. The image has been identified as not specifying the source and creator of the image, which is required by Wikipedia's policy on images. If you don't indicate the source and creator of the image on the image's description page, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided source information for them as well.

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This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Media copyright questions. 07:57, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Unspecified source for Image:Ju287.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:Ju287.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, then you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, then their copyright should also be acknowledged.

As well as adding the source, please add a proper copyright licensing tag if the file doesn't have one already. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the GFDL-self tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media meets the criteria at Fair use, use a tag such as or one of the other tags listed at Image copyright tags. See Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following [ this link]. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the image is copyrighted under a non-free license (per Fair use) then the image will be deleted 48 hours after 09:51, 15 February 2007 (UTC). If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Liftarn 09:51, 15 February 2007 (UTC)