User talk:Rms125a@hotmail.com/Archive 8

Liz Smith
Hi, in this edit you indicate that Liz Smith was born in 1922 indicating the findmypast index has the birth in 1922. As she was born in December and the birth was registered in the March quarter of 1922 then the birth must have taken place in 1921 and registered the following year in 1922. Keith D (talk) 23:39, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Your edit
Regarding this edit, please notice that you reverted quite a bit of edits other people made. You must have gotten an edit conflict and you shouldn't proceed to save your version when you get it, because it will remove other people's legitimate edits. In general, when you edit a busy article it is a good idea to edit just one section at a time to reduce the likelihood of edit conflicts. --BorgQueen (talk) 18:37, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I won't go into semantic arguments about the definition of "cruft" or "quite a bit of", but please see EDITCONFLICT: "Bob should not just post his changes over the top of Alice's. We assume good faith – mistakes are occasionally made, and newcomers may not understand the edit conflict window. However, Bob must not routinely ignore edit conflicts. It is absolutely not acceptable for Bob to overwrite Alice out of laziness. We encourage contributors to double-check their merges by using the diff feature." --BorgQueen (talk) 05:32, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Maurice Buckley
I do not understand why you removed the references to this fellow's history of venereal disease. It is silly to put these blokes on a pedestal in this way. Aside from his gallantry his army records show him to be quite a larrikin. The truth is what we aim to have here not some half baked beatification application. However I am open to contrary argument and am interested to find out your thinking. That is I won't edit the page peremptorily. You can reply here as I am watching. Cheers Silent Billy (talk) 07:40, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

You said ''I rv it (9 months ago) because there is no mention of any STDS in Buckley's biodata at ADB and I questioned the legitimacy of such allegations. If you have valid sources that confirm what you are saying then do what you have to do.''

It's clearly in his service records held at the NAA - there's an external link to the digitised record. I want to be careful about this - there is some sensitivity about this sort of stuff but on the other hand not talking about it perpetuates the Bean myth that Anzacs were all wholesome clean limbed 6 foot sun bronzed celibate sons of Austral when they were far from that. I would like to know what you think before doing anything - or nothing. Silent Billy (talk) 01:29, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Habsburg
Short Version: "After his graduation he fought against the Nazis and the Anschluss of Austria to the German Reich. In 1938 he wrote a letter to Austrian Chancellor Schuschnigg in which he asked him to resist the Nazis. After the Anschluss he published an appeal supporting an international intervention. Throughout the war he lived in American exile."

That's just a short and "fast" translation, I'll try to expand that section in the next days. HerkusMonte (talk) 19:02, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

En not em dashes for page and year ranges
Hi, I noticed at Alfred Burke, and possibly elsewhere, you've added — em dashes between years or full dates. Please note that an – en dash is required (WP:MOSDASH). There's a very good script you can easily click on to change a hyphen to the correct en dash, if that helps. Buzz me if you want the details? Tony  (talk)  11:50, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Jolie and Magda Gabor
Your insistence on making unexplained edits to watchlisted pages and reverting and ignoring other editors' comments and talk page discussions is not an auspicious way to edit Wikipedia. It will cause others to view you with suspicion for violating WP:AGF and will likely at some point lead to your being blocked for WP:3RR. Please reconsider how you do business on Wikipedia. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 15:06, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
 * All DoBs I provided are well known on ALL major Biography sites concerning the Gabor's and have been verified be Zsa Zsa Gabor herself. Even a site such such as imdb has all the information correct.  Maybe I'm just tired of seeing blatant erroneous information on Wikipedia from individuals who are less than expert on given matters.  TFBCT1 (talk) 02:15, 24 July 2011 (UTC)   (copied from user page by User:Alison)

Page abbreviations, username.
Re and, please undo your changing of "p." and "pp." to "pg." and "pgs." per for example Template:Cite book. Also please change your username from an email address to a normal username. -- Jeandré, 2011-07-24t20:51z
 * Robert isn't obliged to change his username, as he has had this one since before the rules changed (which, BTW, were insttuted to address a bug in Mediawiki) - A l is o n  ❤ 08:02, 25 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 13:32, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

August 2011
Please do not attack other editors, as you did on User talk:Night of the Big Wind. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Night of the Big Wind talk  00:52, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Information.svg|25px]] Ouch! You've used a template to send a  to an experienced editor.  Please review Don't template the regulars or maybe listen to a little advice.  Doesn't this feel cold, impersonal, and canned?  It's meant in good humor.  Best wishes.  A l is o n  ❤ 02:52, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

- A l is o n  ❤ 02:52, 19 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Ali, lovely to hear from you. But I am not the one who sent a template message, NOTBW did. The only template I know is the welcome one. I'll wait a bit before I let NOTBW know not to leave any further messages on my talkpage. I can take criticism but wantonly bringing up the ban is decidedly not OK. (He claims I made him go "berserk". Wouldn't want that happening again, anyway.) Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 20:25, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * That won't happen again when you treat me with the same respect as you expect from others. Your remark about my language/judgement really felt like an insult. Night of the Big Wind  talk  22:31, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Ow, and I am an editor on Wikipedia since January 2006, but moved only recently from the Dutch to the English version. And I live in Ireland since March 2006. My spelling and way I built my sentences, may leave something to desire. But I do know what I write, why I write it and why I write it in such a way.
 * And the night sleep and Alisons friendly interference calmed me down. Night of the Big Wind  talk  22:38, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

MEDIATION REQUESTED FOR MYRTLE ALLEN ARTICLE
Another editor is reverting my edits, providing no explanation whatever, leaving a decidedly inferior version, replete with redundant text, cruft, misspellings, etc. If you check the diffs you will see my version is superior in every way: substantively, grammatically and syntactically; the last two probably due to the fact that English is not his first language.

More offensively, this editor refuses to explain, despite my reaching out to him on his talk page, his reasoning or to try to delineate where I am wrong or where it is simply a dispute between MOS styles. His reverts show he is not looking to improve the article but simply to revert wholesale my edits entirely. He may have an ownership problem with his articles, but, as you well know, no one owns an article on Wikipedia, regardless of how much hard work is put into editing.

I am leaving the article as is due to WP:3RR but I hope you can view the diffs and restore the superior version I crafted. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 16:25, 18 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Hello Rms: Thank you for your message. I'm sorry to hear that you're currently involved in an article content dispute with the other editor. If you'd like to make a request for a Wikipedia mediator to help you out, I'd recommend that you start first by making a request on Mediation Cabal - you can find how to make a request for mediation on the project page. The Mediation Cabal offers "informal" Wikipedia mediation, which means that mediation is run by volunteers rather than as a formal Wikipedia process, which allows more flexibility and open discussion than "formal" mediation (which is an official Wikipedia process). Mediators can't make a decision as to whose article version is better, or take sides in the dispute, however; mediators are, by their very role, required to be impartial, and the goal of mediation is to generate consensus between parties that disagree with each other. I wouldn't, as a result, be able to perform any article reversions or participate as an editor, and nor could any other Wikipedia mediator, but I am always ready to offer advice and support to editors on how to handle disputes. Let me know if there is anything I can help you with in this regard, but the ultimate essence is discussing issues about people's editing in a friendly and collaborative way rather than seeing them as combatants, and to discuss before you revert. Yours, --NicholasTurnbull &#124; (talk) 22:59, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

I can not help it, but the discussion page on Myrtle Allen is still blank but my talkpage is filled with PA's and insults. Not a way for a constructive discussion. Night of the Big Wind talk  23:29, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Ruslan Salei
Since you keep removing mentions of it, I figured I'd let you know here that Ruslan Salei is confirmed dead. NHL.com is reporting it via the Russian Emergency Ministry. The NHL usually ensures everything is correct before posting anything. Shootmaster 44 (talk) 18:24, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, this is verified as being true :( - A l is o n  ❤ 18:44, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks I wasn't being critical or anything, just thought I don't want to risk getting into a 3RR thing over this. Quite honestly, the only reason so many people are involved in these edits are that a good portion of these players were major NHL players. I hate to say this, but I gather that if this was a regular (if such a thing can be called that) Russian plane crash, you wouldn't see this level of involvement. I'd definitely protect the page if I had that power. Sadly, for as much as I edit on here, I don't have any more powers than any other editor. Granted, in most cases, I wouldn't want extra powers since I'm a little more involved WP:Wikignome. But I appreciate the work you've done today in keeping things sane.


 * Welcome to the world of the Hockeynazis as I have heard us referred. We are the one of the few sports project that runs smoothly but is a bit of an authoritarian regime. Some of the major editors have a wealth of knowledge as far as Wikirules go and tend to enforce them on anything that falls into the hockey grey area. You'll even find that some of us try to do the same in other Canadian related subjects too. Shootmaster 44 (talk) 18:45, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Lou Zaeske
Hi, I see you removed the notability tag on Lou Zaeske, but I can't see notability asserted there yet per WP:BIO or WP:POLITICIAN. Am I missing something in the article? Thanks, Gurt Posh (talk) 15:18, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * (Responded on Gurt Posh's talk page.) Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 15:26, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

What on earth did you mean by that tag in Joanna Russ?
Why would you put a tag next to the wikilinked name of one of the world's most famous SF writers, in an article about an SF writer? -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  16:10, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Response left at Orangemike's talkpage. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 16:16, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * That's why we put in wikilinks, so the reader doesn't have to ask "Who?" but merely has to click the link. (And I didn't say it was an SF page, I said it was a page about an SF writer [and somebody who was proud of SF as a genre, to put it mildly].) -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  16:18, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

John Murphy (Loyalist)
I have reported you for a personal attack on my Talk page. 13:42, 12 September 2011 (UTC) Billsmith60 (talk) 13:43, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

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Moira Deady
Why do you think Moira Hoey is the better known name? Fmph (talk) 15:29, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Er, I don't think they do. They show that she was known by both names. Her IMDB entry is under Deady. Her Riordans credits are under Deady. Professionally she was known as Deady. In her private life she was known as Hoey. Your 2nd reference mentions both "Moira Hoey (nee Deady) " and " Moira Deady (Hoey)". Your first reference mentions nowhere that one was better known then the other. She was known as both. Hence why there was merge tags on both articles. You should not remove one mergetag and replace with a redirect while leaving the other merge tag in place. You should make your case in the merge discussion. I will revert your edit on Deady now. Fmph (talk) 16:14, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

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Lord Maelor
Lord Maelor's title was just Lord Maelor. He was not 'Lord Maelor of Rhosllannerchrugog' because 'of Rhosllannerchrugog' was his territorial designation, not part of his peerage title. Sam Blacketer (talk) 08:14, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

New York City draft riots
Hi. I am not sure why you wiki-linked dates/years on the New York City draft riots article but that is rarely done (see WP:MOS). Yours, Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 14:11, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Hello! I usaly post on wikipedia french. It is habitualy done in this language because more conections and it is better for wiki. Wish you have a very good evening. Thank you for your message! Bye!Bastien Sens-Méyé (talk) 16:11515 October 2011 (CEST)