User talk:RoadiePC

Privacy
I have no problem with that and can repsect that as your way of thinking.

Do you embrace your past enough to sanction a straight-forward biography? It would be great to do yours.

I did the bio here on former child star Charles Herbert and it received an A-class rating (there's only about 3 dozen of those; mostly philosophers, kings and rock stars!):


 * Category:A-Class biography articles

Yours is a mysterious persona--having dropped out of sight (which is your right) after the films--and realizing we all outgrow the "cute" stage, you do have a legion of fans (of all types)--some from the movie days, many from the tours, etc.

There's a lot of pubescence here controlling some of these pages--that's the problem.

Take care...

trezjr 10:44, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Autobiograaphy
Hello RoadiePC, Welcome to Wikipedia. I read your message on the talk page. Your request seems reasonable to me. Your notability comes from being a child star and that should be the focus of the article. It's been our experience at Wikipedia that it usually works best if the subject of an article leaves messages on the talk page of an article instead making changes himself. This is not an absolute rule, but usually works best. See WP:AUTO

I'm an administrator which means that I can protect your page if vandals repeatedly, block users that repeatedly insert negative sourceless material, and delete information that is legally defamatory. If you need help contact me on my talk page; or any experienced editor can find an administrator to make the changes. FloNight 11:31, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

sure thing
i'd be flattered if someone wanted to do a bio on me, to be completely honest. my only issue has already been stated. i understand that anytime a person has any sort of following(no matter how small!), they must find a balance between keeping their own privacy and not snubbing those who are interested. i'll admit that i deleted a few sensitive details on my wiki article, but left the rest.

being that i've had to keep this balance for about 15 years now, i understand completely that there may still be people interested, and i'd be honored if someone more well-spoken than myself decided to write up a biography. i appreciate the offer, and if there's anything i can do to help, please feel free to let me know. i can offer information, answer questions, and hopefully provide something useful. i'm a huge fan of wiki, and am new to actually contributing to it. RoadiePC 18:49, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Sounds good
If you have had the chance to check out the bio I did on Charlie Herbert, that would give you a good idea of what I am capable of putting together for you here.

There's some things I would prefer to discuss with you first off of Wiki if that is acceptable. It has to do with the "privacy" issue and some other tips to help you accomplish this.

...hope you didn't mean yourself when you said "small" following. Don't underestimate yourself.

Take care... trezjr 20:54, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

wow.
i'm impressed. while my story is not nearly as interesting, there are a few parellels. i like what you've done, and i look forward to seeing what you'd write for me. i'll email you.

-PC

RoadiePC 23:59, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

mistake
The item was mine; it's not meant as a "slam". if you read it; it's a compliment to you. do you want me to take it out again? trezjr

explanation
anything "bad" you're seeing there is a reflection (opinion) on the film--NOT you. you are complimented for your performance with..."It’s all Oliver...shining above and beyond all the other..."

i thought we were going to use the Discussion page before taking anything off. trezjr 20:48, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

apologies
i'll admit being a bit hasty, and i apologize. frankly, i've had a few people that've been laying insults consistently for some time now, and i jumped a bit when i saw the Bill Gibron reference. sorry about that. like i said, my girlfriend found it before i did, and wiped it. won't happen again. RoadiePC 21:31, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

hi...
no problem...if you see something with my name on it, it's not likely to be a slam. i have a repsect for you, your work and your situation..and believe me, i've known people that have gone through what i believe you are also experiencing, so i can relate.

when i get writing, i'll see the film gets praise.

you'd be great in my drinking group!

did you get my e-mails--i'm not pressuring you. whenever you have the time. i think i've found on the internet the most i'm going to find. i'll try some more later in the week.

just so you know--like the herbert piece i did--i piece together odds and ends of information over say a 2 week period tweaking it to make a polished piece. it's kind of hard to sit down and write something up at once. the information only comes in a bit at a time--that's why your help will be so important. i need information to work with.

i'm here if you need me!

trezjr 22:05, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

looks good...
hi pc...

...i've pretty much got the article as polished up as i can get it, until such time as i can get some additional information--either on the internet or through you.

it looks good--it has some shape and form now.

what you need to do is to continue to watch it, so that it doesn't get vandalized or taken over by the wiki loonies. i'll be watching it too.

just by the way it looks now, i can tell we could make it an A-class article if we just work on it together a bit more.

it still needs more to make the full statement, like maybe your personal feel. in other words, what are the reasons for your career turns, why you want seclusion, what avenues you want to persue in the future.

with your help it can be a great piece, but that is your decision.

take care, bud.

trezjr 13:50, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Closing line...
Is this acceptable to you as a closing line...

"The PC films, unfortunately for Oliver, were the type of roles that labeled him as 'the kid you love to hate'."

It's a good close and I feel gives sympathy for your situation; (an old proverb goes "...always play for sympathy").

I feel that the article as it stands (although it could use more of your input), makes a good presentation to the public.

Remember, a lot of people loved you in/for the PC role. There's a fondness for you. If they feel you're snubbing them, it's the same as giving them the finger--they'll turn on you.

You should have me as your manager.

Let me know about using the closing line.

I've asked the Biography committee to grade the article.

trezjr 21:26, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Where born...
What CITY were you born in?

trezjr 22:19, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

heads-up
i finally responded to your email. sorry about the delay. RoadiePC 22:28, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

got it...
hi pc...

...got your e-mail--and then my msn crashed.

can't get into my e-mail right now.

i don't want to put too much here--AS ANYONE CAN READ THESE PAGES--did you know that?

i will try and get back to you this evening--really interesting "stuff".

thanks!

trezjr 23:48, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

still down
my msn is still down and i'm shut out of my e-mail, bud, this happens every holiday evening when the phone lines overload---at least that's what i hope it is.

i will still try and get back to you this evening by e-mail.

you can trust me to respect your confidences ("off the record") and i will try and get something to you for your approval. it looks like you gave me a lot to work with.

can i use anything that's NOT marked as "off the record"?

thanks!

trezjr 00:43, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

regarding a couple questions
as far as OTR goes, if something is marked as off the record, then yes, please keep it in confidence. anything else is far game. by the way...if i recall correctly, the first PC film set was where Ritter and yasbeck met, as per your "soon-to be wife" line. to answer your other question, i don't think i was much of a demon-child, just a hyperactive seven-year-old. i used to enjoy the "games" page(last page) of OMNI magazine, and found myself playing with legos a lot on set.

little bit-o-trivia: the scene where Junior wields nunchukus against big ben(warden) was my idea. i had a pair of 'chucks, and had been practicing with them for awhile. they gave me padded ones to use in that scene. can't let the kid bust open his face, eh? RoadiePC 06:16, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

...touring?
hi pc...

...trezjr...it just struck me, are you on the tour right now? now wonder you say you've been busy.

i see you've got a break coming up soon. if you are going to have some free time anytime soon, can we find a night where we can throw some e-mails back and forth at each other?

i'm usually on-line most evenings from 7 to 11 est.

you gave me some GREAT material to work with and i have several ideas, but i need to ask you a few more questions if that's okay.

also, i have to admit that i am at a standstill here with the wiki piece--remember their rules--well, i've gone about as far as i can go at this point; actually more, because by posting the "early beginnings" material i am, by rights, required to "back it up" with documentation if challenged. more so for anything i put in the "personal life" section.

there are several things we can do--1 quite easy--but if we can find the time to "chat", i can get input from you and see what you are feeling. i have that one idea in particular i'd like to spend time on with you.

we've done good so far. but i feel we have only told half of the story. i believe the "personal life" section will be the most important part of the piece and it could have a dramatic effect on the way people/fans perceive you both now and maybe into the future. i'd really like to complete the whole project. i'd like to give you something that we can both be proud of.

just let me know.

i'm going to e-mail this note to you as well.

trezjr 00:19, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

hey...
...u doing okay? contact me when u can. trezjr (talk) 21:50, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

hey, again...
pc...hope things are good 4 u. can u contact me (my e-mail if you still have it) about geting a current picture of u back up on Michael Oliver.

i'd also like to send you some items to look at.

trezjr (talk) 01:40, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

hey...
...u doing okay? can u contact me?

trezjr (talk) 16:12, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

u around?
hey pc, you still come to wiki?

would really like to talk to you about maybe posting a more recent shot of you on your page.

also have some items i'd like to show you; can you drop me a line?

trezjr (talk) 22:37, 10 July 2009 (UTC)