User talk:RobJ1981/Archive 14

VC records on GamerWiki and other video game articles
Why dont you guys go on GamerWiki? The website needs to be updated more. The articles are empty, I cant do this by myself...Versus22 (talk) 01:09, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

The website is: http://www.gamerwiki.com Versus22 (talk) 05:59, 26 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I have warned the IP's about the Virtual Console in total section not to add it in the region articles on the discussion pages. Versus22 (talk) 18:47, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

North America VC: March 17th

 * All right, I'm sorry I forgot the link for those 2 games (I was on my Wii, so its impossible to copy & paste). By the way, have you checked out GamerWiki yet and made some edits? Reply to my talk page. Versus22 (talk) 00:19, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

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No Personal Attacks
By telling Angrymansr to "Grow up", you are attacking that editor. Please stop. If you continue to make personal attacks on other people, you will be blocked for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Thank you. Angrymansr (talk) 21:08, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

WP:PW
You can see the conversation yourself. I have made my point over and over, it's like i'm talking to a freaking brick wall. I'm starting to think he's doing that on purpose.  TJ   Spyke   22:24, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

WM23
You agreed on the way it was, stop changing it. BOTB was just a tagline, not a match type (MITB is a match type). As for your latest revert, it was to match the rest of the article.  TJ   Spyke   21:05, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I have only reverted you in the WM23 article once in the last 24 hours. As for attitudes, you seem to be a lot more aggressive and controlling and confrontational.  TJ   Spyke   00:55, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Films coordinator elections
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North America VC
What the heck!?! Didn't you see my last comment? I am agreeing with you now! My last comment said that we're not going to post upcoming games on the discussion page on the VC anymore, and we'll add the games in the article when they arrive in the Wii Shop Channel 9 a.m. tomorrow morning! (Monday). If there is an comment from now on what games are coming out, the comment will be undone! Sorry if I startled you. Versus22 (talk) 23:56, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Archive Virtual Console (North America)
Hey Rob, can you please archive this section so those dates are not seen? I don't know how. Maybe you can explain on my talk page. Thanks! =) Versus22 (talk) 15:59, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

List of characters in Bully
Despite your continual accusations of bad faith and WP:OWN, the only thing I have ever done on the List of characters in Bully article was try to keep the article at a high quality level. Assuming good faith on your part, you want the same thing I do, which is a good article. So I have to ask, is continually picking fights on that article, like you did over the villain/nemesis thing, helpful? If you have a problem with any individual user, might I remind you that the first step in Dispute Resolution is to focus on content? Also, it would be better, if you do have a dispute with any action an editor has taken, to discuss it with said editor on his talk page rather than try to prove your point through a revert war? My talk page is not locked. Regards, McJeff (talk) 02:38, 20 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Based on your extremely uncivil response on my talk page, I decided to take this to Wikiquette alerts rather than continue to butt my head against the wall that is your refusal to quit acting in bad faith against me.


 * The actual discussion in regards to you is here.


 * McJeff (talk) 02:55, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of fictional raccoons
Just letting you know that this AfD is starting to turn into a snowball case. There are some pretty solid reasons for keeping here, so you might want to consider a withdrawal. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 21:27, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

WrestleMania XXIV
You've been annoyed by hypocriticy in WP:PW, so I wanted your take on this issue in the WrestleMania XXIV article. The Flair/Michaels match has been promoted as a "Career Threatening match", as have all of Flair's singles matches the last few months. We can agree that this is simply another name for a retirement match, and yet, almost no one wants to add it in there, with the main reason being that "it's always been done that way." Obviously, the consensus for this match is going against me, but this hypocriticy has reached yet another level, and something needs to be done. Mshake3 (talk) 17:32, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Look at this. One editor adds the name in (twice), and then takes it out, using the same reasoning each time! When will this hypocriticy end? Mshake3 (talk) 00:44, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

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Question
Anything in particular you would like me to do there? Or just contribute in general? Judgesurreal777 (talk) 21:11, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok! I'll start looking around :) Judgesurreal777 (talk) 18:27, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Sounds good, I was just checking it out. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 19:19, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Abusive?
Well isn't that the pot calling the kettle black? Why don't you worry about your own actions, and stop running around Wikipedia like you own it. Your edit summaries are consistently rude, and I'm not the only person to take notice. I'm also not the only person you enjoy harassing, as you have a very long history of conflict with others. If you enjoy editing you might want to learn to get along with others. There is a very strong case for disciplinary actions against your editing behavior and if I need to take it up higher I will. Have a nice day. :) Angrymansr (talk) 23:42, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Warning you that I am going to "tattle" i.e. inform an administrator of your actions is harassment? Are you serious? That does wonders for your credibility. Apparently someone needs to because you are constantly in conflict, and everyone says the same things about you. So I not it's not just me. Also, don't tell me about policy, you violate it constantly. How many edit wars have you started? Didn't you just get your hand smacked for you uncivil behavior in wikiquette alerts? Apparently, you don't give a shit and everyone is the bad guy except you. I will be compiling your history and sending it to an admin. Frankly, I'm sick of your games and your bullshit warnings on my talk page every other day. Angrymansr (talk) 15:00, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: AfD List of Wii games (North America)
Look back at the deletion page. Thanks for making me upset! =( Versus22 (talk) 23:40, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

You're not busy in real life are you?!? You go on Wikipedia everyday pretty much. Stop with your nonsense!!!!!!! Versus22 (talk) 04:33, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Allright, Rob1981 I explained my reasons earlier. It looks like I am going to lose the voting for this article (which I'll be 1-1 in AfD challenges). However, the part of switching to regional articles came from Mmark from the page Talk:List of WiiWare games. I made this List of Wii games (North America) article also because not all 497 games are not coming out worldwide (you know that 233 games are out in NA, & 217 games out in EU). I heard from Digiwrld that the word "Unreleased" means the game will not be coming out in the region. So what is the point that my idea doesn't work? Versus22 (talk) 13:47, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Look Rob, I'm sorry for all this hassle about you haven't replied in the past (i get impatient when I don't get a reply). I'll assume good faith (for you), and become good friends here on Wikipedia. What else do you want me to do? Versus22 (talk) 14:00, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I sent a AfD pre warning to Mmark089. I actually should have not said assume. I should have said just good faith. The reason is because its a sick joke. 'ass' 'u' 'me'. It makes people a bit upset, sorry =(. Versus22 (talk) 22:52, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Something I think you might find interesting
On that notyours template you linked me to, I found an article called Talk page guidelines describing guidelines for using talk pages. I for one found it very elucidating. I'm going to bold the parts that most apply to you.


 * Communicate: If in doubt, make the extra effort so that other people understand you, and you get a proper understanding of others. Being friendly is a great help. It is always a good idea to explain your views; it is less helpful for you to voice an opinion on something and not explain why. Giving an opinion helps in convincing others and reaching consensus.
 * (Isn't that what I had a problem with you for in the first place? Because you wanted to criticize the List of characters in Bully article without contributing ideas to help improve it?)


 * Keep on topic: Talk pages are for discussing the article, not for general conversation about the article's subject (much less other subjects). Keep discussions on the topic of how to improve the associated article. Irrelevant discussions are subject to removal.
 * (So your irrelevant discussion in regards to a non-existent attack was subject to removal per a wikipedia guideline)


 * Be positive: Article talk pages should be used to discuss ways to improve an article; not to criticize, pick apart, or vent about the current status of an article or its subject. This is especially true on the talk pages of biographies of living people. However, if you feel something is wrong, but are not sure how to fix it, then by all means feel free to draw attention to this and ask for suggestions from others.
 * (Nothing worth boldindenting in this one, but it does specifically say discuss improvement rather than picking articles apart, which you sure didn't do)

And if you go down to the section on Behavior that is unacceptable, you get...


 * No insults: Do not make ad hominem attacks, such as calling someone an idiot or a fascist. Instead, explain what is wrong with an edit and how to fix it.
 * (So basically, all your ad-hominem attacks about bad faith and WP:OWN are insults)


 * Do not misrepresent other people: The record should accurately show significant exchanges that took place, and in the right context. This usually means: Be precise in quoting others.
 * Well, you kinda deliberately took my statement about your editing habits as an insult when I clearly tried to represent you as fairly as possible, personal feelings aside.

Also, to be fair, I'll take my lumps as well. On reading WP:CIVIL, I found it said that removing hostility from an article talk page is only acceptable in the most extreme circumstances. So for that one I apologize and I'll go ahead and un-undo your talk page edit on List of characters in Bully.

Oh and...

You lost your fish. McJeff (talk) 05:17, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Assume Good Faith
Regarding this edit.  Please assume good faith when dealing with other editors. See Assume good faith for the guidelines on this. Angrymansr (talk) 01:11, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

WrestleMania XXIV
See my inline comment in the Results section. D.M.N. (talk) 20:38, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Comment
Your actions are unacceptable. Removing the link to an article that you have nominated for deletion is a clear-cut case of conflict of interest. This statement from you:''removed user subpage. Leave it be Le Grand... stop trying to get people to vote there, due to you posting there'' has no bearing on whether or not the link belongs on the T&PC project page. He has every right to inform members of this project about articles facing deletion. Furthermore, he is not telling anyone how to vote. You don't own the article either, so why are you trying to conform it to your POV? You and I can sit here and quote policy all day long, but that doesn't change the fact that you are trying to keep members of this project from voting on this article that you nominated for deletion. If the article is not notable, it will not stand on its own, no matter how many project members vote for keeping it. Just let it be. --ErgoSum88 (talk) 05:12, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Comment.
Let me just clarify that you are wrong here.

Under talkpage guidelines about removing other users comments, It states that:


 * On your own user talk page, you may remove others' comments, although archiving is generally preferred.

In future if someone deletes your comment on their user talkpage, don't revert it, because they have a right to delete your comments from their talkpage. Dan the Man1983 (talk) 19:12, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

RFC/USER discussion concerning you (RobJ1981)
Hello, RobJ1981. Please be aware that a request for comments has been filed concerning your conduct on Wikipedia. The RFC entry can be found by your name in this list, and the actual discussion can be found at Requests for comment/RobJ1981, where you may want to participate. -- McJeff (talk) 06:17, 14 April 2008 (UTC)


 * About the AfD, as I told you so many times I got upset at you because of the lack of replies. I sent you the latest question about GamerWiki... you didn't reply (except the first). I also asked you nicely to tell me to archive or you to archive Talk:List of Virtual Console games (North America) you didn't reply, and I had to remove all of TJ's nonsense (announcer for upcoming VC games). I didn't really get upset at you about the List of Wii games, just the lack of replies. This is very rude & violates WP:CIVIL. Vernon (Versus22) (talk) 05:20, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * However, I've been looking at your contributions and it says (by date) that you've been on every day of the week! Please stop lying to me (and recently all the Wikipedia users)!
 * I've also invited Neo Samus to the RFD of you (If he wii show up). Vernon (Versus22) (talk) 06:39, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Your lying! You put the tag up! If you were busy in real life, you would be OFF wikipedia right now, but thats not the case... Vernon (Versus22) (talk) 07:05, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You mean April 13th (because you made tons of edits on the 12th). Hey, though, thats almost every day per week on average. Vernon (Versus22) (talk) 23:35, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

"blanking content (not including warnings) isn't acceptable"
Greetings,

I've noticed you have been reverting users pages that blank their own warnings. They have every right to do so, as expressed by administrator Kusma. Please review this detailed discussion on the matter.

"Blanking warnings is perfectly acceptable. As Carnildo points out, it means the user has read them. Re-adding the warnings and forcing the user to keep content they do not like on their talk page crosses into harassment quickly. While blanking of relevant warnings is not polite or nice, restoring them is even less polite. We do not keep permanent archives (other than page histories) of users' past misdeeds." --Kusma

Just hoping to avoid further confusion. Happy editing SashaNein (talk) 17:20, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Policy on notifying people for AfDs/Mfds
Dear RobJ981, regarding you question on my talk page, according to Guide to deletion: "It is generally considered civil to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors of the articles that you are nominating for deletion. Do not notify bot accounts or people who have made only insignificant 'minor' edits.  To find the main contributors, look in the page history or talk page of the article and/or use TDS' Article Contribution Counter. For your convenience, you may use Article title (for creators who are totally new users), Article title (for creators), or Article title (for contributors or established users)." The similar article on miscellany for deletion also states that "it is generally considered civil to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors of the miscellany that you are nominating. To find the main contributors, look in the page history or talk page of the miscellany. For your convenience, you may add  Article  to their talk page." Best, -- Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 19:32, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey
Hey Rob we are currently discussing the career threatening match and i know in the past you were against the title so if you don't care go to the discussion and help me.LifeStroke420 (talk) 16:54, 16 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I've had to get the WrestleMania XXIV article protected due to continued edit-warring by other users. Please comment in this section. Thanks, D.M.N. (talk) 20:36, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Spore has been confirmed for Wii
Spore was unofficially confirmed for Wii a couple of times when Will Wright got ahead of himself and half-blurted it out in interviews. Then he really made it clear in an an interview in October. Comes up pretty fast if you Google it. --enbob89 (talk) 05:35, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks for help with spore
Feel free to notify an admin about JAF1970's behavior. He's had serious civility issues numerous times over the past few months and unfortunately no one has been able to get through to him. Perhaps an administrator can help him see the light. Let me know if you do file a complaint. Randomran (talk) 21:46, 1 May 2008 (UTC)