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SIGH!!! In 2007 I had a lot of problems with images, specifically with those editors who insist on narrowly defining Fair Use. Oh well, I tried to fight it and got nowhere. I still think discographies look crappy without album covers. Unfortunately nobody died and left me in charge.

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Re: Rosalie Sorrels discography
We aren't allowed to use non-free images except under very specific circumstances. Non-free content stipulates that we can't use them unless they are the subject of critical commentary in the article. A discography is a useful article, but it amounts to simply a list of titles and data without commentary. This is further spelled out in our Non-free content criteria. The points which apply directly to this situation are #3, that our use of copyrighted images must be minimal, and #8, that we explicitly cannot use those images in list articles. Many discography articles are organized in highly functional ways; peruse Category:Discographies for some suggestions about how you can make a great article which fits our policies on fair use. Thanks for your contributions. (ESkog)(Talk) 05:03, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not trying to intimidate you. The images aren't allowed, so I removed them. Alerting you to the problem first, and having you remove the images, will result in the same outcome, so I don't really understand what you're asking me to do. You're not "in trouble" or anything like that, I just edited one of our articles to help Wikipedia remain consistent with its policies. (ESkog)(Talk) 05:15, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
 * No images have been deleted. They are simply not being used in ways which aren't permitted. (ESkog)(Talk) 05:55, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not an issue of fair-use rationales. We don't allow non-free images to be used in list articles. There's nothing to "fix". (ESkog)(Talk) 06:09, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
 * No, I'm not going to reinsert copyrighted material against our policies. Unless you can convince the copyright holder to release the images into the public domain, they can't be used on a list. (ESkog)(Talk) 06:28, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

I am really at a loss for what more I can say to you to explain our policies here. We can't use non-free images on list articles. I hope you do continue improving the article, but it has to be without the use of those images. Is something I'm saying unclear to you, or is there something else I can help you understand on this issue? I really don't know what further discussion would even be possible. (ESkog)(Talk) 14:39, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not deleting any images or proposing them for deletion, so the 48-hour window you reference is not relevant here. I did read your rationales, but they don't change the policy. (ESkog)(Talk) 15:29, 17 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Robbiegiles, I'd like to comment that I concur with what Eskog is doing. I recognize this may be upsetting to you, but what he is doing is entirely in line with our policies and is being done by a rather significant number of people. Hundreds of discography pages are having album covers removed from the articles. This is a concerted, ongoing effort. Though our policies on this had been clear for some time, it gained considerable traction after the board of the Wikimedia Foundation released a statement related to the matter at Foundation:Resolution:Licensing policy. Eskog isn't making a solo interpretation of policies. You may also wish to read User:Durin/Fair use overuse explanation. If you have questions about this, I'd be happy to answer. All the best, --Durin 20:31, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

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