User talk:Robdurbar

Robdurbar was an editor on Wikipedia from about June 2005 until March 2007. I mainly edited pages related to the United Kingdom, Durham University, Barrow-in-Furness, Football and pop music in the UK. I became an admin in August 2006 and was mainly active on the requests for page protection and the speedy deletions page.

I've closed this account off because I've decided I want to spend more time doing other stuff. I'll still read Wikipedia and probably still edit if I see something obviously wrong when I'm reading, or if I'm a bit bored. But I'd rather start anew, rather than keep using this one.

Wikipedia's great and if you're thinking about editing on it or becoming involved, then do! Thanks to everyone whose been nice to me over the last year or so, I've really enjoyed it. --Robdurbar 12:16, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

ps If you've come here to leave me a message, I won't receive it as I won't be logging in. If its absolutely desperate you can use the 'e-mail this user' function on the left of the page. If you've got a querey related to something adminny that I've done, its probably best to go to the administrator's noticeboard, where someone will help you. --Robdurbar 12:16, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Main Page
What? – Riana ऋ 10:08, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Blocked
I dont know what is wrong with your account but it is vandalising the main page continuously. I have blocked till the mess is sorted out &mdash; Lost (talk) 10:09, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Hacked?
Is this account compromised or is it some kind of weird wiki suicide? -- lucasbfr talk 10:09, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd go with 'hacked'. Sentinel75 10:15, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Probably not, the note above was posted a few moments before doing that... -- lucasbfr talk 10:17, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * What "note above"? Robdurbar's note was seemingly posted on March 3. I think it's been hacked. fudo (questions?) 10:22, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Woops, my bad, I misread -- lucasbfr talk 10:33, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Is it regular practice to desysop admin's accounts soon after they've left? Sentinel75 10:26, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I guess it isn't, but Robdurbar (or somebody else using his account) was vandalising the main page. Now I got the meaning of your question. I think it would be a clever policy.fudo (questions?) 10:30, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * It's been considered before. The prevailing wisdom was that this kind of sabotage was unlikely to happen, so it wasn't worth the bother to preempt it.  I still think that's right, although some people may wish to reconsider. YechielMan 01:15, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Wiki-hacking? I see it, if the editor in question gets in dispute alot. But, other than Desysop, what would the hackerr benefit from? Hmm....Quatreryukami 02:11, 25 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Maybe he was addicted to it (Wikipedia) like a drug. By getting kicked off, it may have ensured that he kicked his habit. --Inetpup 04:24, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Um....rofl? I've never heard of Wiki-diction.Quatreryukami 15:06, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism
I don't get this: Why did you delete the Main Page? April Fool's is over. :P--Tdxiang (Talk) 10:09, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm with these folks.


 * Oh so that's what happened yesterday! Ryan Got something to say?  12:45, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Bye
Bye Rob, thanks for your past help. -- zzuuzz(talk) 10:11, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

April 2007
Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits are considered vandalism and immediately reverted. If you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the work of others. You hacked the main page. As soon as a admin finds out, someone is in trouble. zrulli 10:17, 19 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Hm, I'm tempted to make up a variant like "unconstructive blocks, such as those you made to Jimbo Wales, are considerd blah blah blah". &gt;Radi a n t &lt;  11:24, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That message wasn't exactly relevant. 82.18.125.110 19:57, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

What?
Why did you do all that crap to the main page? Someone needs to revoke this accounts admin privlages, since hes no longer active and that it keeps getting hacked. Karrmann 10:18, 19 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I already did. Jon Harald Søby 10:19, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Mass blocks
'''10:14, 19 April 2007 Robdurbar (Talk | contribs) unblocked Robdurbar (contribs)

10:14, 19 April 2007 Robdurbar (Talk | contribs) blocked "Sarge Baldy (contribs)" (anon. only, account creation blocked) with an expiry time of indefinite

10:12, 19 April 2007 Robdurbar (Talk | contribs) unblocked Robdurbar (contribs)

10:12, 19 April 2007 Robdurbar (Talk | contribs) blocked "Agathoclea (contribs)" (anon. only, account creation blocked) with an expiry time of indefinite

10:12, 19 April 2007 Robdurbar (Talk | contribs) blocked "Danny (contribs)" (anon. only, account creation blocked) with an expiry time of indefinite

10:11, 19 April 2007 Robdurbar (Talk | contribs) blocked "Dannyisme (contribs)" (anon. only, account creation blocked) with an expiry time of indefinite

10:11, 19 April 2007 Robdurbar (Talk | contribs) blocked "Jimbo Wales (contribs)" (anon. only, account creation blocked) with an expiry time of indefinite

10:11, 19 April 2007 Robdurbar (Talk | contribs) unblocked Robdurbar (contribs)

10:10, 19 April 2007 Robdurbar (Talk | contribs) blocked "Badlydrawnjeff (contribs)" (anon. only, account creation blocked) with an expiry time of indefinite

10:09, 19 April 2007 Robdurbar (Talk | contribs) blocked "Riana (contribs)" (anon. only, account creation blocked) with an expiry time of indefinite

10:09, 19 April 2007 Robdurbar (Talk | contribs) blocked "Lostintherush (contribs)" (anon. only, account creation blocked) with an expiry time of 48 hours

10:07, 19 April 2007 Robdurbar (Talk | contribs) blocked "Raul654 (contribs)" (anon. only, account creation blocked) with an expiry time of indefinite

10:06, 19 April 2007 Robdurbar (Talk | contribs) blocked "Secretlondon (contribs)" (anon. only, account creation blocked) with an expiry time of indefinite '''

Can someone check they're all unbanned? 212.219.142.161 10:31, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Doing so now.  Daniel Bryant  10:32, 19 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Too bad people can't get these expunged. &mdash; Deckiller 10:40, 19 April 2007 (UTC)


 * They possibly could, if they really wanted to.  Daniel Bryant  10:41, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Very tricky to get logs expunged. From my limited experience with the oversight folk, devs don't want to do it unless the situation is very dire. – Riana ऋ 10:43, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * What would be the benefit of such an action, anyway? I can't see any tangible harm caused by the existence of the above logs. I realise Deckiller wasn't entirely serious, but still. :) -- Daveydweeb ( chat/review! ) 12:51, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Logs will be expungable in the not to distant future.  Voice -of-  All  12:57, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't know if anyone will read this, but oversights can still expunge the history on the main page, removing Robdurbar's and BuickCenturyDriver's edits, as well as all of the stuff in between. That would take quite some time... Astrale01talkcontribs 20:53, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Request for arbitration
As a matter of form, I am filing a request for arbitration to confirm your desysopping. Since you are blocked, you may participate in the case by e-mailing a statement to any active arbitrator or arbitration clerk (other than myself) for forwarding to the arbitrators' mailing list. Newyorkbrad 22:10, 19 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Your emergency de-sysopping has been confirmed by the arbitration committee. You can not regain administrator status without the approval of the committee. Thatcher131 02:19, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

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Please keep an eye on BNP
Copies of this message are being sent to: User: Adambro, User:Fethroesforia, User:Lucy-marie, User:Marcus22, User:One Night In Hackney, User:Robdurbar,   User:VoluntarySlave, User:WGee

I am writing to you because over the last few months you have all played a significant part in editing and debating the article BNP. Even though we have not always all seen eye-to-eye, it is the case that all of you have shown an interest in producing an article that is accurate and representative of the subject within WIkipedia policies. The purpose of this message is to alert you to a potential threat to the article and to ask for your help in keeping a watchful eye on it over the next few weeks. I am going to be away from home with only occasional access to a slow dial-up connection.

On 1 June, I added to the BNP infobox the descriptor 'fascist', with appropriate references (as had been discussed a few weeks back - see archive discussion). I was happy for anyone to question this in the usual way and, indeed, had other references available if necessary. Almost coincidentally, an anonymous editor User:86.146.242.233, began making a series of edits without justification. On the talk page, he referred to previous editors (i.e. you) as "the many militant liberals and communists" and indicated that he was "also going to be going through the whole article because I notice most of it is either liberals or nationalists posting their points of views". I asked him to identify his position and was told "You're fucked up, leave the god damn article alone" and he told me to "stop trolling the BNP article". He also made inappropriate comments on the user pages of other editors to the BNP article and, for no reason I can fathom, did this to the user page of a 14 year old: [].

User talk:86.146.242.233 shows he received several warnings and was eventually banned from editing (having only recently, it seems, been released from an earlier ban). This might have been the end of the matter, but the following day a new editor appeared with the name User:Evianmineralwater and proceeded to make identical edits to BNP and some related articles. I reported my suspicions that 86.146.242.233 and Evian were identical to adminUser:Anthony.bradbury who agreed it seemed to be the same person but told me had been banned again. In fact, he was banned for using a trade name and returned almost immediately as User: Mineralwaterisgreat. (I had misunderstood what the admin had told me and assumed he had been banned for vandalism and so reverted his edits on that basis, earning a rebuke from another admin for my mistake.) Mineral has made the following statements, among others.


 * Wikipedia is "corrupt piece of shit populated with idiots". Rebuked by an admin, he replied, "Wikipedia IS corrupt AND populated by idiots."
 * On the references I had provided: "I'm not reading the references because they are obviously left wing and I'm not buying a god damn book."
 * About me: "This guy wants to keep adding fascism to describe the BNP when it has been refused on both the disambiguation page and the main page. Isn't it clear to see he's just a troll without the best interests of the article in mind?" (I'm not sure what he means by being refused.)

Elsewhere, he has said he is a BNP member and that he intends to edit the article to remove anything he regards as anti-BNP bias.

Now I can deal with personal attacks or ignore them as the mood takes me, but this user is clearly setting out with a POV agenda that we have, I believe, worked hard to keep out of the article. (And, yes, it has sometimes been heated but I still think we have done a good job between us.) I am even happy to debate with BNP members and supporters if they use rational arguments and respect the views of others. (An honourable mention here to Fethroesforia.) I would hate to see the good work we have done go to waste, so I ask that you keep an eye on the article and ensure that edits are made in the correct wikipedian spirit, backed up with sources as appropriate and discussed in the talk page where necessary. It is highly likely that this person could reappear under other names.

(Incidentally, it is ironic that this person has chosen to attack me so vehemently given that, apart from regularly removing the BNP ARE WANKERS type of vandalism and correcting references, the only edit I can recall ever having made to the actual article is to add 'fascism' to the infobox.) Sorry to go on, and I know you are all busy with other projects. Thanks for taking the time to read this. Emeraude 10:56, 4 June 2007 (UTC)