User talk:Robert.O.SWE

Info about dermatitis
Thanks for the info about Dermatitis! I found your page on the talk page on the section for dermatitis. I will try what you suggested and avoid ALL dairy products for 3 weeks. If you have noticed that other things can break you out please write about them on your page. I take the following daily supplements: a multi-vitamin (imitation Men's Centrum the type you can buy OTC in any drugstore), Krill Oil, and 1,000ug of Vitamin D.108.36.104.7 (talk) 01:31, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Hello there! Yes, it's not only dairy products. It's honey and alcohol too. And regarding the dairy products it's really about removing everything that contains milk. You can find it in some already prepared foods and as you know
 * protein drinks (whey I suppose is good to avoid initially as it's derived from milk)
 * Energy snack bars
 * coffee with milk
 * sandwiches/baguettes containing dressings and similar
 * cookies
 * Milk chocolate and more

Oh and I really can not comment on your different supplements as I'm not familiar with them except D-vitamin. I actually do take this myself as I am low on that actually. Little sunlight here where I live and computer related hobbies probably has resulted in that.

Robert.O.SWE (talk) 23:14, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Sugar
I can't speak to your whole approach but the part about sugar in the diet rings true to my experience too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.25.218.27 (talk) 11:05, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, as I have read more and more info on the honey, alcohol connection it has landed in that consumption of especially fast carbohydrates probably results is production of triglycerides in the liver which, as I understand it, means more sebum in your skin will be produced and that is what the fungus lives of. Basically I avoid partially or totally anything that raises bloodsugar much and in turn produces triclycerides. Candy, cakes, alcohol, coffee. Eating to many fruits a day is probably also unwise. I just eat one a day while recommendations can be up to 6 for example. Robert.O.SWE (talk) 21:52, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes I think sugar is best limited including honey, chocolate, soda etc but also oils can trigger skin problems so the fad for pouring olive oil on everything is something to look out for. Switching to a fairly bland diet has helped me before in addition to the obvious (getting plenty of excersise, relaxation, sleep). One last one being a multi vitamin/mineral especially one with iron because iron can do a lot of good for the skin. Also tea-tree shampoo. Good luck. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.25.219.196 (talk) 17:02, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the hints. I'll look into that, however I consume 30-35grams of extra virgin olive oil (no fancy brand) every day and get no problem from that. I've been doing it for a year now. I'm however much more certain today that bananas are a big nono in my diet. Ate a few recently and got some pretty serious blowup along the hairline (is healing up now since I stopped eating them). Robert.O.SWE (talk) 18:30, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

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"Alternative solution to seborreic dermatitis without using any products or medication" seborrheic dermatitis seems to appear from different multiple causes and has different multiple treatments for each person — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.74.252.94 (talk) 15:58, 14 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, quite possible there are several solutions depending on what physiological problems are triggering SD. Robert.O.SWE (talk) 02:55, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

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"I thought Wikipedia would be an excellent place to share this but apparently not? I find that it's a bit of a shame there is no apparent section where people can share alternative ideas here" agree completely

the so called "free" encyclopedia is not so "free" after all with lots of censorship

and as Hengistmate says: "I have discovered that on Wikipedia being right is no guarantee of anything if you are outnumbered by people who are wrong."

and as malarz_russ says: "Wikipedia is a great resource, but it's major problem is that it doesn't really require 100 percent accuracy or even honesty, as I've seen some pretty amazing things offered as fact." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.74.252.94 (talk) 16:01, 14 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Hmmm. My information got deleted recently with the motivation that Wikipedia is no web host. An faulty argument as I don't use it as web host (even though I have donated and could argue I feel entitled to). I had to post SD information on my personal user page as the info was not fitting for the official page. Simple as that.
 * Yes, you are right. Wikipedia suffers from this that if the majority does not like something then it will be changed, even though it's not true. People believe what they want to believe. It's easier. Still I feel it seems to work well in most articles I read Robert.O.SWE (talk) 02:52, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, you are right. Wikipedia suffers from this that if the majority does not like something then it will be changed, even though it's not true. People believe what they want to believe. It's easier. Still I feel it seems to work well in most articles I read Robert.O.SWE (talk) 02:52, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

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Re: the information you placed on your user page (pasted below for reference). It looks to be interesting information even if it is outwith the scope of Wikipedia and therefore not permitted to be on a user page. Since I'm talking about it on your talk page, however, I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be allowed to remain here for posterity. --78.148.110.69 (talk) 00:42, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

How I got rid of seborrheic dermatitis, without using any product or medication
Hello everyone. My name is Robert, I'm from Sweden, and I though I wanted to share with you how I solved the problem for myself. I used to use several prescribed alternatives that would help me partly for periods but the problem never disappeared totally. So I applied another approach. I started exploring how I react to food. And finally I found the reason to why I had this skin problem. Dairy products and fast carbohydrates like honey, raisins, alcohol, bananas. If I avoid them ALL problems go away. I have not used any cortisone creams or fungus shampoos since 2006-2007 I believe.

You should know I don't suffer from lactose intolerance according to tests.

For me it takes about 3 weeks for the skin to clear up if I stop consuming dairy products totally and all dandruff is gone for ever too, but it's enough with a glass of milk to have a reaction even within hours.

So I recommend people to avoid these things for at least 3 weeks (cheating will only postpone your progress, so don't). Later on as the skin has healed up you can try to reintroduce one type of food at a time and see what you react to most. I do sometimes consume these products myself but also know very well that I will have to pay a price for it:
 * Milk
 * Butter
 * Cheese (even goat cheese)
 * Ice cream
 * Milk chocolate
 * Pastries/ cakes with whipped cream
 * Sauces that contain cream/milk
 * ... well anything else with milk in it

(*) Raisins and grapes could also trigger it I suspect. Not completely sure but I'll add it anyway.
 * Alcohol
 * Honey (as little as 2 table spoons can cause problems in just a few hours)
 * Bananas (I've not been a big consumer of bananas, one banana a month at most, so this is the reason to my late addition of this usually common food source.)

Remember to read the ingredients list of the products you buy.

I hope this can help someone! Mail me at robert.olender[at]hotmail.com and tell me how it went. I also now have a before and after photo with about two months apart from when I got SD from ice cream. If you want to see the difference the diet changes make mail me and I'll send you it. I don't have time to read all the photo licensing requirements of Wikipedia and free license is not an option for me as I wish to avoid any abuse of the photo or commercial use.

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I have some questions in my head still:
 * 1. What is the common denominator between alcohol and dairy products?


 * 2. Could cow milk protein/fat/sugar be reason to abnormal Malassezia yeast response?


 * Update: Information found link here pointing to possibly the fat being the issue as it lives of that, however my guess is that it's not that simple that fats taken through food immediately become the fats the fungus could live off as we can gain in fat through consuming carbohydrates.

But this was interesting:
 * "Sebum excreted by the sebaceous gland is primarily composed of tryglicerides, wax esters, and squalene."
 * "The milk fat consists mainly of triglycerides, approximately 98%"
 * "Alcohol has a number of effects on triglyceride levels. Alcohol is a major source of excess calories which get turned into fat, so the triglyceride levels in the blood increase." - Which would answer question 1? Alcohol raises triglycerides levels. Milk contains mainly triglycerides. Right?

I'm no biochemist. I just find this connection interesting and will not pretend I understand this information fully.

Another interesting thing for me personally is that I actually have had blood values checked of fP-Triglycerides, 0.4-2.6 was the range. I had 0.4 (three times). Can't say if this range is same around the world, probably not, but I also got very low cholesterol. And there is a Cholesterol <-> Triglycerol connection from what I understand. Maybe my good cholesterol levels and low Triglycerol levels are due to me not consuming many products that raise the values. Skin is clear and levels beneficial (or maybe a bit "too good" and slightly on the low side).

Robert.O.SWE (talk) 18:27, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

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