User talk:Robert Bodley

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Speedy deletion nomination of The Steppes (band)


A tag has been placed on The Steppes (band) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band or musician, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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I added some reliable sources and am wondering about how to move it from my user page and publish it to Wikipedia. Thanks.


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Moved to userspace
Trying to understand why someone would flag this for speedy deletion...The Steppes are critically acclaimed and a large influence on bands in their genre. They are a much more notable band than many on Wikipedia.

Hey, I moved the article to User:Robert Bodley/The Steppes (band) so you can work on it.

From what I can see, the reason for deletion was a lack of coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. By this I mean things such as reviews, articles, and interviews in places such as newspapers, TV spots, and the like. I saw that you had some WP:PRIMARY sources, which are things that are put out by the band or someone representing them in some format, such as the people who are re-printing their albums. You did have some other sources, but those were WP:BLOGS. The thing about blogs is that most of them are unverifiable in many ways, meaning that they don't have a staff of editors that go over the work to factcheck and the like. It's very, very rare that a blog will be considered a reliable source. The only exceptions would be in instances where it's an official blog for say, Rolling Stone magazine or a blog by a very notable person that isn't involved with the subject of the article.

As far as claims of influencing others, you'd have to prove that by showing it in sources. You can say that the band influenced a lot of people, but you need to prove that with reliable sources. Just be aware that there are a lot of niche bands that never actually gained any coverage in reliable sources. You can't claim that they were wildly influential and keep an article based upon that, because ultimately you have to back it up with reliable sources. Otherwise a claim is just a claim. I don't think that you're lying, but you've got to understand that we've had a lot of people claim a lot of different things here on Wikipedia. You have to back it up with WP:RS. Now as far as other articles existing on Wikipedia that might not be as notable, the fact that WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS isn't a reason for inclusion. A lot of times it might just mean that the other articles might not have been nominated for deletion yet.

In any case, the article is in your userspace and you can work on improving it. I'd recommend getting someone from WP:MUSIC to help you with finding sources, as it can be very hard to find sources for bands that weren't as widely known. That's a WikiProject that's devoted to improving music related articles on Wikipedia. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   08:08, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Talkback
Bellerophon talk to me 23:41, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: The Steppes (band) (December 17)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: The Steppes (band) (February 9)
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Trying to figure out why this article got denied again. The sources are notable and independent from the band(magazines, newspapers) and all of the bands albums were released on an "important indie label," Voxx/Bomp. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robert Bodley (talk • contribs)
 * Hi. Your article has probably still been declined because though you have four reliable sources, its quite a long article and you rarely use in-line citations so it's hard to tell what has actually been sourced and what hasn't. Samwalton9 (talk) 11:34, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Your submission at AfC The Steppes (band) was accepted
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December 2018
Hello, I'm Qzd. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —specifically this edit to Jim Norton (comedian)— because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help Desk. Thanks. Qzd (talk) 19:28, 8 December 2018 (UTC)