User talk:Robertowilkes

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Nomination of Helen Mary Wilkes for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Helen Mary Wilkes is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. A loose necktie (talk) 10:53, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Conflict of interest
Hello, Robertowilkes. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Optimist (dinghy), you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you.  Velella  Velella Talk 22:03, 31 July 2022 (UTC)


 * I agree that I have a conflict of interest as regards the nomination of Helen Mary Wilkes.
 * I have also deleted her name from the page Optimist (dinghy)
 * However the link to ">
 * is a reprint of an article which did appear on the World Sailing website but which I am unable to access. Robertowilkes (talk) 22:31, 31 July 2022 (UTC)


 * The root page of the site http://www.wilkessail.net/ is a direct advertisement for a book that you wrote and you also acknowledge that the web-site is a domain owned by yourself. Using that domain as a reference is a direct conflict of interest. It gives a very clear signal that you are using the ref to sell your book.  Velella  Velella Talk 22:37, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I am willing to remove that advertisement. Would that page be acceptable if I did so? It contains a large amount of information unavailable elsewhere. I should explain that I am fully retired from my (voluntary) work for the Optimist Class and do not have any current interest. Robertowilkes (talk) 22:44, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I should acknowledge that I have helped two of my grandchildren learn to sail in Optimist out of Lyttleton Harbour in NZ so have an inherent bias towards the class and have added an image to the Wikipedia page. So I am strongly in favour of a well sourced, informative page. However.... Wikipedia demands that its sources are independent (i.e have no conflict of interest) and are reliable (i.e not blogs or social media or other trivial sites). Your site seems to fall foul of both criteria, but it does contain, as you note, some useful information. In some articles the ref suggests that the information on your site is actually endorsed by the National Association. I assume that this means that the data is a verbatim copy of the stats put out by the national Association? The simple answer I guess is that the site is neither a reliable nor independent site but there  is nothing (except the advert) to give pause for thought. There is no reason, for example, to doubt the stats. I am not sufficiently expert here so I will ask the admin community what they think and see what they say. Regards  Velella  Velella Talk  23:04, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Optimist parents/grandparents get everywhere :)
 * Yes, subject to a check all the quotes from the International (sic) association are verbatim copies. They were published by me as Hon. Secretary of it 1996-2008. Robertowilkes (talk) 23:18, 31 July 2022 (UTC)