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Tech News: 2023-19
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Recent changes
 * Octicons-gift.svg Last week, Community Tech released the first update for providing better diffs, the #1 request in the 2022 Community Wishlist Survey. This update adds legends and tooltips to inline diffs so that users unfamiliar with the blue and yellow highlights can better understand the type of edits made.
 * Octicons-gift.svg When you close an image that is displayed via MediaViewer, it will now return to the wiki page instead of going back in your browser history. This feature request was voted #65 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.
 * The SyntaxHighlight extension now supports as a selected language. Old alternatives that were used to highlight wikitext, such as, , and , can now be replaced.
 * Preloading text to new pages/sections now supports preloading from localized MediaWiki interface messages. Here is an example at the that uses .

Problems
 * Graph Extension update: Foundation developers have completed upgrading the visualization software to Vega5. Existing community graphs based on Vega2 are no longer compatible. Communities need to update local graphs and templates, and shared lua modules like de:Modul:Graph . The Vega Porting guide provides the most comprehensive detail on migration from Vega2 and here is an example migration. Vega5 has currently just been enabled on mediawiki.org to provide a test environment for communities.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Octicons-tools.svg Until now, all new OAuth apps went through manual review. Starting this week, apps using identification-only or basic authorizations will not require review.

Future changes
 * During the next year, MediaWiki will stop using IP addresses to identify logged-out users, and will start automatically assigning unique temporary usernames. Read more at IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation/Updates. You can join the discussion about the format of the temporary usernames.
 * There will be an A/B test on 10 Wikipedias where the Vector 2022 skin is the default skin. Half of logged-in desktop users will see an interface where the different parts of the page are more clearly separated. You can read more.
 * Octicons-tools.svg  will be removed from the MediaWiki core. This will affect some user scripts. Many lines with   can be commented out.   can be used to keep things working like they are now. You can read more and read about how to find broken scripts.

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MediaWiki message delivery 00:34, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Question from Hudbuzz (11:58, 9 May 2023)
Hey Robert, would you check out my first article draft that I created & submitted to be published & let me know what you think please. Also do you know why all of my reference links don’t show up in the reference tab? It only shows the first one. --Musicbotwiki (talk) 11:58, 9 May 2023 (UTC)


 * @Hudbuzz, first off, welcome to Wikipedia. You have taken your first steps on editing here. Now diving into your question, looking at your user contributions, I am assuming that you are referring to Draft:Hudson Laird.
 * The draft as it is likely may not last in the main article space due to notability issues. As a member of a band, we have to evaluate if the person passes the notability measures on their own (see WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO), namely having in-depth coverage in third-party and independent secondary sources.
 * Looking at your sources, they are of community or intra-state newspapers, which gives hint that the subject may have limited recognition nationwide or across multiple states. These sources are not primarily or in-depth of the subject. 1 is of the band he was in, the other is a serial of photos with captions, and the last is of another performance by another person with a passing mention of him.
 * On to your content, there are some statements that may need more sources to support. i.e. his works with other more well established artistes (not all of them are named in the sources you have provided), or verifiable, i.e. the information personal life section is not verifiable against the source indicated.
 * As for the references, they have to be cited above the Reflist template usage, i.e. above the References section, in order to appear in the reference list.
 * Other issues: your signature. It should be one of that is easy for other editors to know who you are. By using 'Musicbotwiki' in your signature instead of your actual username, other editors may mistakenly ping/notify Musicbotwiki rather than you, Hudbuzz (like I did at the start of this message). WP:Signature is the behavioural guideline to read. I encourage you to change your signature to better represent yourself to others, or change your username to 'Musicbotwiki'. However, having 'bot' in your username may be misleading to others as we do have 'bots' executing automated or semi-automated scripts/instructions.
 * I hope the above helps you on your journey into the world of Wikipedia editing. Cheers! – robertsky (talk) 14:52, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Sorry I didn't know
@Robertsky

To day when I claimed a mentee User:1Firang, that gave me mentorship but I did not know you are already a mentor and also I did no know me claiming mentorship will remove you from mentorship for that user. Sorry for this time, next time I will see what extra care I can take. &#32;Bookku   (talk) 09:35, 12 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Bookku, no worries. Glad that you are proactive in dealing with him. :) – robertsky (talk) 09:49, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-20
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems
 * Citations that are automatically generated based on ISBN are currently broken. This affects citations made with the VisualEditor Automatic tab, and the use of the citoid API in gadgets and user scripts. Work is ongoing to restore this feature.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Starting on Wednesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link" . This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure how this feature works locally.

Future changes
 * There is a recently formed team at the Wikimedia Foundation which will be focusing on experimenting with new tools. Currently they are building a prototype ChatGPT plugin that allows information generated by ChatGPT to be properly attributed to the Wikimedia projects.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Gadget and userscript developers should replace  with  . The  library will be removed in ~1 month, and staff developers will run a script to replace any remaining uses at that time.

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MediaWiki message delivery 21:43, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2023-21
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Octicons-gift.svg The "recent edits" time period for page watchers is now 30 days. It used to be 180 days. This was a Community Wishlist Survey proposal.

Changes later this week
 * An improved impact module will be available at Wikipedias. The impact module is a feature available to newcomers at their personal homepage. It will show their number of edits, how many readers their edited pages have, how many thanks they have received and similar things. It is also accessible by accessing Special:Impact.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

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16:53, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Books & Bytes – Issue 56
The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes

Issue 56, March – April 2023 
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Tech News: 2023-22
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Citations can once again be added automatically from ISBNs, thanks to Zotero's ISBN searches. The current data sources are the Library of Congress (United States), the Bibliothèque nationale de France (French National Library), and K10plus ISBN (German repository). Additional data source searches can be proposed to Zotero. The ISBN labels in the VisualEditor Automatic tab will reappear later this week.
 * Octicons-gift.svg The page now has "" options to select all the pages within a namespace. This feature request was voted #161 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.

Problems
 * For a few days earlier this month, the "Add interlanguage link" item in the Tools menu did not work properly. This has now been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * VisualEditor will be switched to a new backend on small and medium wikis this week. Large wikis will follow in the coming weeks. This is part of the effort to move Parsoid into MediaWiki core. The change should have no noticeable effect on users, but if you experience any slow loading or other strangeness when using VisualEditor, please report it on the phabricator ticket linked here.

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MediaWiki message delivery 22:00, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Anthony Jennings (actor)
Hello, Robertsky. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Anthony Jennings (actor), a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again&#32;or request that it be moved to your userspace.

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Tech News: 2023-23
<section begin="technews-2023-W23"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The RealMe extension allows you to mark URLs on your user page as verified for Mastodon and similar software.
 * Octicons-gift.svg Citation and footnote editing can now be started from the reference list when using the visual editor. This feature request was voted #2 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.
 * Previously, clicking on someone else's link to Recent Changes with filters applied within the URL could unintentionally change your preference for "". This has now been fixed.

Problems
 * For a few days last week, some tools and bots returned outdated information due to database replication problems, and may have been down entirely while it was being fixed. These issues have now been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Bots will no longer be prevented from making edits because of URLs that match the spam blacklist.

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MediaWiki message delivery 22:50, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-24
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Recent changes
 * Octicons-gift.svg The content attribution tools Who Wrote That?, XTools Authorship, and XTools Blame now support the Dutch, German, Hungarian, Indonesian, Japanese, Polish and Portuguese Wikipedias. This was the #7 wish in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.
 * The Search Preview panel has been deployed on four Wikipedias (Catalan, Dutch, Hungarian and Norwegian). The panel will show an image related to the article (if existing), the top sections of the article, related images (coming from MediaSearch on Commons), and eventually the sister projects associated with the article.
 * The RealMe extension now allows administrators to verify URLs for any page, for Mastodon and similar software.
 * The default project license has been officially upgraded to CC BY-SA 4.0. The software interface messages have been updated. Communities should feel free to start updating any mentions of the old CC BY-SA 3.0 licensing within policies and related documentation pages.

Problems
 * For three days last month, some Wikipedia pages edited with VisualEditor or DiscussionTools had an unintended  (or its localized form) added during an edit. There is a listing of affected pages sorted by wiki, that may still need to be fixed.
 * Currently, the "" feature in VisualEditor is broken. Existing  keywords incorrectly appear as missing templates in VisualEditor. Developers are exploring how to fix this. In the meantime, those wishing to edit the default sortkey of a page are advised to switch to source editing.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Last week, an update to the delete form may have broken some gadgets or user scripts. If you need to manipulate (empty) the reason field, replace <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> with <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr" style="white-space: nowrap;"> . See an example fix.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * VisualEditor will be switched to a new backend on English Wikipedia on Monday, and all other large wikis on Thursday. The change should have no noticeable effect on users, but if you experience any slow loading or other strangeness when using VisualEditor, please report it on the phabricator ticket linked here.

Future changes
 * From 5 June to 17 July, the Foundation's Security team is holding a consultation with contributors regarding a draft policy to govern the use of third-party resources in volunteer-developed gadgets and scripts. Feedback and suggestions are warmly welcome at Third-party resources policy on meta-wiki.

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MediaWiki message delivery 14:49, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Against the Grain Theatre
Hey, Robertsky

I noticed your comment on this draft, and I have made changes to it, improving its structure and readability as well as adding researched text. Daebak101 (talk) 15:07, 11 June 2023 (UTC)


 * @Daebak101, I am tied up with preparations for Wikimania 2023 to properly process drafts with COI/UPE. Another reviewer will review your draft in due time. – robertsky (talk) 05:31, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2023-25
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Recent changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg Flame graphs are now available in WikimediaDebug.

Changes later this week
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
 * There is now a toolbar search popup in the visual editor. You can trigger it by typing  or pressing  . It can help you quickly access most tools in the editor.

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MediaWiki message delivery 20:07, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

Talk:Université Savoie Mont Blanc
Hello, kindly see my comment regarding the recent page move. MyPOV (talk) 18:32, 22 June 2023 (UTC)


 * @MyPOV I am amenable to having the RM reopened. Would you like me to carry that out? – robertsky (talk) 08:03, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Sure that would be great, @Robertsky! -- MyPOV (talk) 08:10, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-26
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Recent changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg The Action API modules and Special:LinkSearch will now add a trailing <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> to all <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> responses for bare domains. This is part of the work to remove duplication in the  database table.

Problems
 * Last week, search was broken on Commons and Wikidata for 23 hours.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Octicons-tools.svg The Minerva skin now applies more predefined styles to the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> CSS class. This enables support for mbox templates that use divs instead of tables. Please make sure that the new styles won't affect other templates in your wiki.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Gadgets will now load on both desktop and mobile by default. Previously, gadgets loaded only on desktop by default. Changing this default using the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> parameter is also deprecated and should not be used. You should make gadgets work on mobile or disable them based on the skin (with the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> parameter in MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition ) rather than whether the user uses the mobile or the desktop website. Popular gadgets that create errors on mobile will be disabled by developers on the Minerva skin as a temporary solution.
 * All namespace tabs now have the same browser access key by default. Previously, custom and extension-defined namespaces would have to have their access keys set manually on-wiki, but that is no longer necessary.
 * The review form of the Flagged Revisions extension now uses the standardized user interface components.

Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg How media is structured in the parser's HTML output will change in the coming weeks at group2 wikis. This change improves the accessibility of content. You may need to update your site-CSS, or userscripts and gadgets. There are details on what code to check, how to update the code, and where to report any related problems.

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MediaWiki message delivery 16:17, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

Question from HeyJ79 (00:40, 27 June 2023)
Hello, when my name is Googled my photos show up with a Wikipedia article that is not about me. Specifically, my name is Adam Johnson and I am a Canadian conductor, but there is also a British conductor by the same name. His article originally contained a mix-mash of information that was partly about him and partly about me. I have removed the information about me from his article, however I am concerned because my photos still show up with his article in search engines. Should I replace his article with my information and references while creating a new article with his information, or will creating a new article about me suffice to match my photos to my article? Thank you! --HeyJ79 (talk) 00:40, 27 June 2023 (UTC)


 * @HeyJ79, sorry to hear about the mix up between you and the other conductor of the same name. With respect to your question Should I replace his article with my information and references while creating a new article with his information, or will creating a new article about me suffice to match my photos to my article?, my answer is to create a new article, or in your case, given the conflict of interest, create a draft at Draft:Adam Johnson (Canadian conductor) if there're sufficient third party sources to establish your notability (by Wikipedia' vague yet firm guidelines) (see also WP:BLP for guidelines on biographies of living persons). Do not overwrite the current article with your information, and create a new article of his as this will create a disjointed edit history of the articles. The current article will be moved to upon successful submission of your draft. – robertsky (talk) 11:55, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Great, thank you for your reply. I have started writing an article with the conflict of interest disclaimer, and have begun familiarizing myself with how to do it and will include sufficient references to prove notability and third party relevance. I see that it can take a long time for an article to get published, but at least the process is started. Thanks again and all the best. HeyJ79 (talk) 17:04, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
 * A quick update, I have created an article titled Adam Johnson (Canadian conductor) as per your suggestion, and submitted it for review (four month wait apparently!). Thanks again for your help. HeyJ79 (talk) 21:24, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @HeyJ79, there a citation error: Cite error: The named reference "SMITF" was defined multiple times with different content. I have also added some 'citation needed' tags as well. I will let another reviewer assess the notability of the article as I do not have the headspace currently to do so. – robertsky (talk) 06:04, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help - I've made the updates. Noted for notability - I conduct the top international orchestra in Canada and am music director of a significant orchestra in the US, but if other criteria are required to prove notability I can see if I meet them. HeyJ79 (talk) 02:30, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

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Vandalism
Hi, could you please look at this? I did not trace origin of the data, but the title is string resembling recently blocked vandal. Regards, —Mykhal (talk) 16:54, 1 July 2023 (UTC)


 * @Mykhal, it will be removed once we start syncing the accepted submissions into wikimania. Cheers! – robertsky (talk) 14:07, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-27
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Recent changes
 * Octicons-gift.svg As part of the rolling out of the audio links that play on click wishlist proposal, small wikis will now be able to use the inline audio player that is implemented by the Phonos extension.
 * Octicons-tools.svg From this week all gadgets automatically load on mobile and desktop sites. If you see any problems with gadgets on your wikis, please adjust the gadget options in your gadget definitions file.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

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MediaWiki message delivery 22:49, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-28
<section begin="technews-2023-W28"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The Section-level Image Suggestions feature has been deployed on seven Wikipedias (Portuguese, Russian, Indonesian, Catalan, Hungarian, Finnish and Norwegian Bokmål). The feature recommends images for articles on contributors' watchlists that are a good match for individual sections of those articles.
 * Global abuse filters have been enabled on all Wikimedia projects, except English and Japanese Wikipedias (who opted out). This change was made following a global request for comments.
 * is a new tool for administrators to help fight spam. It provides a clearer interface for blocking plain domains (and their subdomains), is more easily searchable, and is faster for the software to process for each edit on the wiki. It does not support regex (for complex cases), nor URL path-matching, nor the MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist, but otherwise it replaces most of the functionalities of the existing MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. There is a Python script to help migrate all simple domains into this tool, and more feature details, within the tool's documentation. It is available at all wikis except for Meta-wiki, Commons, and Wikidata.
 * The WikiEditor extension was updated. It includes some of the most frequently used features of wikitext editing. In the past, many of its messages could only be translated by administrators, but now all regular translators on translatewiki can translate them. Please check the state of WikiEditor localization into your language, and if the "Completion" for your language shows anything less than 100%, please complete the translation. See a more detailed explanation.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * The default protocol of and API counterparts has changed from http to both http and https.
 * and its API counterparts will now search for all of the URL provided in the query. It used to be only the first 60 characters. This feature was requested fifteen years ago.

Future changes
 * There is an experiment with a ChatGPT plugin. This is to show users where the information is coming from when they read information from Wikipedia. It has been tested by Wikimedia Foundation staff and other Wikimedians. Soon all ChatGPT plugin users can use the Wikipedia plugin. This is the same plugin which was mentioned in Tech News 2023/20.
 * There is an ongoing discussion on a proposed Third-party resources policy. The proposal will impact the use of third-party resources in gadgets and userscripts. Based on the ideas received so far, policy includes some of the risks related to user scripts and gadgets loading third-party resources, some best practices and exemption requirements such as code transparency and inspectability. Your feedback and suggestions are warmly welcome until July 17, 2023 on on the policy talk page.

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MediaWiki message delivery 19:52, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Closing request move
I was wondering if you could close this as it's been 7 days. Here: <b style="color:black; font-family:Garamond">Btspurplegalaxy</b> <b style="color:blue">💬</b> <b style="color:#9D9E9E">🖊️</b> 18:31, 7 July 2023 (UTC)


 * @Btspurplegalaxy sorry, have been busy. See wikimania:wikimania. – robertsky (talk) 15:46, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank You!
Hello robertsky, Just wanted to thank you for taking the time to fix my appalling blunders with the Draft/redirects of No Other Love. Il appreciate the help! Yours, - MY, OH MY! (mushy yank)  18:13, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Jindo (TV series)
I have recently created this draft. Please, accept its publishing after reviewing if possible.39.34.189.223 (talk) 39.34.189.223 (talk) 05:20, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2023-29
<section begin="technews-2023-W29"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg We are now serving 1% of all global user traffic from Kubernetes (you can read more technical details). We are planning to increment this percentage regularly. You can follow the progress of this work.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Octicons-tools.svg MediaWiki system messages will now look for available local fallbacks, instead of always using the default fallback defined by software. This means wikis no longer need to override each language on the fallback chain separately. For example, English Wikipedia doesn't have to create <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> and <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> subpages with a transclusion of the base pages anymore. This makes it easier to maintain local overrides.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> API will be deprecated with the new MediaWiki version. Bots or scripts calling that API should use the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> API now.

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:06, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Books & Bytes – Issue 57
<span style="font-size: 2em; font-family: Copperplate, 'Copperplate Gothic Light', serif">The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes

Issue 57, May – June 2023 <div style = "margin-top: 1.5em; border: 3px solid #ae8c55; border-radius: .5em; padding: 1em 1.5em; font-size: 1.2em">
 * Suggestion improvements
 * Favorite collections tips
 * Spotlight: Promoting Nigerian Books and Authors

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Draft: Ng Kok Song
Hi Robertsky, it's been a while - hope you've been well! A new editor has sent me a message about a draft article for Ng Kok Song (the latest candidate to throw their hat in the ring for the next Presidential Election). It's at AfC with a long wait time and I think it's important it goes up sooner rather than later, given how topical it is. I've been off Wiki for some time and no longer have the tools to review it; if you have the time/inclination, would you review it? Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 08:13, 21 July 2023 (UTC)


 * @Kohlrabi Pickle, I will check this by the end of next week if there is no other reviewer acting on it before that. Wikimania is around the corner and I have been pretty busy working on it (coincidentally, the presidential election, if based on the 2011 election's timeline, might be around the same time). – robertsky (talk) 08:42, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you - much appreciated. All the best with Wikimania! Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 14:13, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Kohlrabi Pickle ✅ – robertsky (talk) 05:33, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for taking the time, very much appreciated! Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 09:38, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-30
<section begin="technews-2023-W30"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg  On July 18, the Wikimedia Foundation launched a survey about the technical decision making process for people who do technical work that relies on software that is maintained by the Foundation or affiliates. If this applies to you, please take part in the survey. The survey will be open for three weeks, until August 7. You can find more information in the announcement e-mail on wikitech-l.

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 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

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Tech News: 2023-31
<section begin="technews-2023-W31"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg The Synchronizer tool is now available to keep Lua modules synced across Wikimedia wikis, along with updated documentation to develop global Lua modules and templates.
 * The tag filter on and revision history pages can now be inverted. For example, you can hide edits that were made using an automated tool.
 * The Wikipedia ChatGPT plugin experiment can now be used by ChatGPT users who can use plugins. You can participate in a video call if you want to talk about this experiment or similar work.

Problems
 * It was not possible to generate a PDF for pages with non-Latin characters in the title, for the last two weeks. This has now been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Starting on Tuesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link" . This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure how this feature works locally.

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The Signpost: 1 August 2023
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Question from Jamestop9 (01:40, 2 August 2023)
Thank you I’ll --Jamestop9 (talk) 01:40, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-32
<section begin="technews-2023-W32"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Mobile Web editors can now edit a whole page at once. To use this feature, turn on "" in your settings and use the "" button in the "" menu.

Changes later this week
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

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MediaWiki message delivery 21:19, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

AfC comment
Is this place where comments are supposed to go? The draft creator removed past comments from there. CurryCity (talk) 22:47, 8 August 2023 (UTC)


 * @CurryCity: the comments shouldn't have been removed. evidently, we have arrived at the same conclusion. – robertsky (talk) 01:13, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-33
<section begin="technews-2023-W33"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The Content translation system is no longer using Youdao's machine translation service. The service was in place for several years, but due to no usage, and availability of alternatives, it was deprecated to reduce maintenance overheads. Other services which cover the same languages are still available.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Starting on Wednesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link" . This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure how this feature works locally.

Future changes
 * A few gadgets/user scripts which add icons to the Minerva skin need to have their CSS updated. There are more details available including a search for all existing instances and how to update them.

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The Signpost: 15 August 2023
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Tech News: 2023-34
<section begin="technews-2023-W34"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The GDrive to Commons Uploader tool is now available. It enables securely selecting and uploading files from your Google Drive directly to Wikimedia Commons.
 * From now on, we will announce new Wikimedia wikis in Tech News, so you can update any tools or pages.
 * Since the last edition, two new wikis have been created:
 * a Wiktionary in Pa'O
 * a Wikisource in Sundanese
 * To catch up, the next most recent six wikis are:
 * Wikifunctions
 * a Wiktionary in Mandailing
 * a Wikipedia in Ghanaian Pidgin
 * a Wikinews in Gungbe
 * a Wiktionary in Kabardian
 * a Wikipedia in Fante

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Future changes
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Question from Jamestop9 (21:01, 7 August 2023)
Boss I have questions how to you become an editor is a Wikipedia admin? If one is interested? --Jamestop9 (talk) 21:01, 7 August 2023 (UTC)


 * @Jamestop9 Administrators on Wikipedia are editors with additional technical rights such as page deletions and blocking of users. To become one, you will have to be nominated either by yourself or by other editors and go through a process called Request for adminship. Formally, you just need to have an account to go through the process. However, as this is an open community election process, it invariably requires a demonstration of extended knowledge of the processes and norms of Wikipedia. This demonstration comes from the edits that one does on the site and one's personal conduct on the site over an extended period of time. Many applied years after they have been contributing. – robertsky (talk) 17:14, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Than you so much I am very dedicated to Wikipedia how to nominate myself? ILAnhisM (talk) 01:35, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @ILAnhisM As a new editor, I suggest that you hold off nominating yourself or seeking a nomination from others until you have built up a sizeable editing history under this account. Without sizeable user contributions for others to evaluate whether you are knowledgeable about the processes and norms on here, there won't be any long-time editors nominating you. Self-nominations are scrutinised even closer and harder as well. For your knowledge on the nomination process, read Guide to requests for adminship, Miniguide to requests for adminship. – robertsky (talk) 02:41, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Well do thank you so much ILAnhisM (talk) 21:03, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Boss one last question and I won’t be bother lol where do I find the article I wrote ? I’m seems to be confused I’m sure their should be way to find it then searching the title thank you really appreciate you ILAnhisM (talk) 21:12, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-35
<section begin="technews-2023-W35"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Octicons-gift.svg As part of the changes for the better diff handling of paragraph splits, improved detection of splits is being rolled out. Over the last two weeks, we deployed this support to group0 and group1 wikis. This week it will be deployed to group2 wikis.
 * Octicons-gift.svg All pages now show the user's local edit count and the account's creation date.
 * Wikisource users can now use the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> label to denote Bengali currency characters as page numbers inside the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> tag.
 * Two preferences have been relocated. The preference "" is now shown on the "" tab at all wikis. Previously it was shown on the "" tab at some wikis. The preference "" is now also shown on the "" tab at all wikis, instead of the "" tab.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Octicons-tools.svg New signups for a Wikimedia developer account will start being pushed towards idm.wikimedia.org, rather than going via Wikitech. Further information about the new system is available.
 * All right-to-left language wikis, plus Korean, Armenian, Ukrainian, Russian, and Bulgarian Wikipedias, will have a link in the sidebar that provides a short URL of that page, using the Wikimedia URL Shortener. This feature will come to more wikis in future weeks.

Future changes
 * The removal of the DoubleWiki extension is being discussed. This extension currently allows Wikisource users to view articles from multiple language versions side by side when the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> symbol next to a specific language edition is selected. Comments on this are welcomed at the phabricator task.
 * A proposal has been made to merge the second hidden-categories list (which appears below the wikitext editing form) with the main list of categories (which is further down the page). More information is available on Phabricator; feedback is welcome!

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MediaWiki message delivery 13:58, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

The Signpost: 31 August 2023
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Parliament house
parliment house Socialworkerindia863 (talk) 10:43, 31 August 2023 (UTC)


 * @Socialworkerindia863 if this is about the recent moves I have made to revert your move, those are requested at WP:RM/TR as reverting undiscussed moves. There was a requested move discussion on one of the articles' talk pages before your move. Please start a new discussion seeking a consensus on whether to move the pages. (Replying briefly on mobile.) – robertsky (talk) 11:00, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
 * hey parliament house need to become old parliament house
 * .and New parliament House to become parliament house. Socialworkerindia863 (talk) 11:03, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @Socialworkerindia863, don't tell me. Open a discussion on the article's talk page. See WP:PCM. – robertsky (talk) 12:25, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Delete redirect
Hello! Can you delete three directs (Vietnam National Stadium (Mỹ Đình), Vietnam National Stadium (Mỹ Đình Stadium), Vietnam National Stadium, Mỹ Đình) because they are unnecessary? Thanks a lot! Lephuoc10012007 (talk) 11:18, 3 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @Lephuoc10012007, I can't as I don't have the rights to do so. But I have tagged them with WP:R3. If that's denied, Please open WP:RfD. – robertsky (talk) 11:41, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
 * For the record, these really shouldn't have been R3 tagged, as they are too old to meet that criterion. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 04:29, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @Pppery I will keep this in mind for future actions. :) – robertsky (talk) 10:36, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started
Hello, Robertsky. Thank you for your work on Jon Symon. User:North8000, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with. Please remember to sign your reply with ~. (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

<b style="color: #0000cc;">North8000</b> (talk) 13:57, 28 August 2023 (UTC)


 * @North8000 ain't mine, but @Mondra Diamond's. :) – robertsky (talk) 15:49, 3 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks. The curation tool that puts it on the article pages also sends to the original creator which sometimes isn't the main creator. <b style="color: #0000cc;">North8000</b> (talk) 14:04, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-36
<section begin="technews-2023-W36"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes Problems
 * EditInSequence, a feature that allows users to edit pages faster on Wikisource has been moved to a Beta Feature based on community feedback. To enable it, you can navigate to the beta features tab in Preferences.
 * Octicons-gift.svg As part of the changes for the Generate Audio for IPA and Audio links that play on click wishlist proposals, the inline audio player mode of Phonos has been deployed to all projects.
 * There is a new option for Administrators when they are changing the usergroups for a user, to add the user’s user page to their watchlist. This works both via and via the API.
 * One new wiki has been created:
 * a in Talysh
 * The LoginNotify extension was not sending notifications since January. It has now been fixed, so going forward, you may see notifications for failed login attempts, and successful login attempts from a new device.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Starting on Wednesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link" . This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure how this feature works locally.

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:32, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Question from Pm61data (16:50, 6 September 2023)
Hi Robert, How can i save my draft without publishing it ? --Pm61data (talk) 16:50, 6 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @Pm61data hi. I see that you have already saved something to your user page. As it is, the content is promotional and may likely be subjected to deletion. Do keep in mind that Wikipedia is not a blog, web hosting service, social networking service, or memorial site. I suggest moving it to your sandbox, i.e. at User:Pm61data/sandbox where you can further work on it to make it less promotional. See also conflict of interest policy. – robertsky (talk) 01:19, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

New page patrol October 2023 Backlog drive
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:14, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-37
<section begin="technews-2023-W37"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * ORES, the revision evaluation service, is now using a new open-source infrastructure on all wikis except for English Wikipedia and Wikidata. These two will follow this week. If you notice any unusual results from the Recent Changes filters that are related to ORES (for example, "" and ""), please report them.
 * When you are logged in on one Wikimedia wiki and visit a different Wikimedia wiki, the system tries to log you in there automatically. This has been unreliable for a long time. You can now visit the login page to make the system try extra hard. If you feel that made logging in better or worse than it used to be, your feedback is appreciated.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Octicons-tools.svg The Technical Decision-Making Forum Retrospective team invites anyone involved in the technical field of Wikimedia projects to signup to and join one of their listening sessions on 13 September. Another date will be scheduled later. The goal is to improve the technical decision-making processes.
 * Octicons-gift.svg As part of the changes for the Better diff handling of paragraph splits wishlist proposal, the inline switch widget in diff pages is being rolled out this week to all wikis. The inline switch will allow viewers to toggle between a unified inline or two-column diff wikitext format.

Future changes
 * All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on 20 September. This is planned at 14:00 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks.
 * The Enterprise API is launching a new feature called "breaking news". Currently in BETA, this attempts to identify likely "newsworthy" topics as they are currently being written about in any Wikipedia. Your help is requested to improve the accuracy of its detection model, especially on smaller language editions, by recommending templates or identifiable editing patterns. See more information at the documentation page on MediaWiki or the FAQ on Meta.

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MediaWiki message delivery 21:06, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Books & Bytes – Issue 58
<span style="font-size: 2em; font-family: Copperplate, 'Copperplate Gothic Light', serif">The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes

Issue 58, July – August 2023 <div style = "margin-top: 1.5em; border: 3px solid #ae8c55; border-radius: .5em; padding: 1em 1.5em; font-size: 1.2em">
 * New partners - De Standaard and Duncker & Humblot
 * Tech tip: Filters
 * Wikimania presentation

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The Signpost: 16 September 2023
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Thanks for the technical move
at Persepolis F.C. (women). Would you be willing/able to do the case-fix cleanup where things link to it? I can do it, eventually, but I can't use JWB no more. Dicklyon (talk) 01:33, 17 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @Dicklyon, eh... most of the pages were linked through a template. Maybe next time check the templates first? – robertsky (talk) 03:32, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Great point! Thanks! Dicklyon (talk) 04:44, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-38
<section begin="technews-2023-W38"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg MediaWiki now has a stable interface policy for frontend code that more clearly defines how we deprecate MediaWiki code and wiki-based code (e.g. gadgets and user scripts). Thank you to everyone who contributed to the content and discussions.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on September 20. This is planned at 14:00 UTC.
 * All wikis will have a link in the sidebar that provides a short URL of that page, using the Wikimedia URL Shortener.

Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg The team investigating the Graph Extension posted a proposal for reenabling it and they need your input.

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MediaWiki message delivery 19:18, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

New pages patrol newsletter
Hello ,

Backlog update: At the time of this message, there are 11,300 articles and 15,600 redirects awaiting review. This is the highest backlog in a long time. Please help out by doing additional reviews!

October backlog elimination drive: A one-month backlog drive for October will start in one week! Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles and redirects patrolled. Articles will earn 4x as many points compared to redirects. You can sign up here.

PageTriage code upgrades: Upgrades to the PageTriage code, initiated by the NPP open letter in 2022 and actioned by the WMF Moderator Tools Team in 2023, are ongoing. More information can be found here. As part of this work, the Special:NewPagesFeed now has a new version in beta! The update leaves the NewPagesFeed appearance and function mostly identical to the old one, but updates the underlying code, making it easier to maintain and helping make sure the extension is not decommissioned due to maintenance issues in the future. You can try out the new Special:NewPagesFeed here - it will replace the current version soon.

Notability tip: Professors can meet WP:PROF #1 by having their academic papers be widely cited by their peers. When reviewing professor articles, it is a good idea to find their Google Scholar or Scopus profile and take a look at their h-index and number of citations. As a very rough rule of thumb, for most fields, articles on people with a h-index of twenty or more, a first-authored paper with more than a thousand citations, or multiple papers each with more than a hundred citations are likely to be kept at AfD.

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Tech News: 2023-39
<section begin="technews-2023-W39"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The Vector 2022 skin will now remember the pinned/unpinned status for the Table of Contents for all logged-out users.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Octicons-tools.svg The ResourceLoader <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> modules are now deprecated as part of the move to Vue.js and Codex. There is a guide for migrating from MediaWiki UI to Codex for any tools that use it. More details are available in the task and your questions are welcome there.
 * Gadget definitions will have a new "namespaces" option. The option takes a list of namespace IDs. Gadgets that use this option will only load on pages in the given namespaces.

Future changes
 * New variables will be added to AbuseFilter:  and  . They are available only when an account is being created. You can use them to prevent blocking automatic creation of accounts when users with many edits elsewhere visit your wiki for the first time.

Meetings
 * You can join the next meeting with the Wikipedia mobile apps teams. During the meeting, we will discuss the current features and future roadmap. The meeting will be on 27 October at 17:00 (UTC). See details and how to join.

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MediaWiki message delivery 16:49, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Paradise PROD
Hi!

Please see these sources, all of which I found from a single search:

Cheers, RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 00:20, 28 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @RadioactiveBoulevardier lovely! thanks for searching them out. may I ask what search query did you use? – robertsky (talk) 01:09, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
 * "paradise group bangladesh" RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 01:17, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @RadioactiveBoulevardier, ugh! thanks. I was searching for paradise cables thinking that there would be too much noise from searching for paradise group (i.e. Paradise Group Holdings) and missed out that just simply affixing the country name can potentially filter out the wanted results. – robertsky (talk) 01:45, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Duchess of Fife
Your close at Talk:Princess Alexandra, 2nd Duchess of Fife doesn't make sense. Everyone agrees that she was a duchess in her own right. That was never the argument. Celia Homeford (talk) 07:13, 28 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @Celia Homeford Eh.. will reword it. but essentially the consensus is "not moved". – robertsky (talk) 07:39, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-40
<section begin="technews-2023-W40"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * There is a new user preference for "". This setting will make pages load without including any on-wiki JavaScript or on-wiki stylesheet pages. It can be useful for debugging broken JavaScript gadgets.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Gadget definitions now have a new " contentModels " option. The option takes a list of page content models, like  or  . Gadgets that use this option will only load on pages with the given content models.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg The Vector 2022 skin will no longer use the custom styles and scripts of Vector legacy (2010). The change will be made later this year or in early 2024. See how to adjust the CSS and JS pages on your wiki.

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MediaWiki message delivery 01:25, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

The Signpost: 3 October 2023
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Tech News: 2023-41
<section begin="technews-2023-W41"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * One new wiki has been created: a in Fon

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 * Starting on Wednesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link" . This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure how this feature works locally.
 * At some wikis, newcomers are suggested images from Commons to add to articles without any images. Starting on Tuesday, newcomers at these wikis will be able to add images to unillustrated article sections. The specific wikis are listed under "Images recommendations" at the Growth team deployment table. You can learn more about this feature.
 * Octicons-tools.svg In the mobile web skin (Minerva) the CSS ID <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> will be replaced with <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> . This change is to make it consistent with other skins and to improve support for gadgets and extensions in the mobile skin. A few gadgets may need to be updated; there are details and search-links in the task.

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MediaWiki message delivery 14:37, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Alert!!! "Our Extended Play"
I started working on the requested round-robin swap for "Our Extended Play" just seconds before you did. I can retreat and you can finish it up. --- <b style="color:#DC143C"> DOOMSDAYER 520</b> (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 14:08, 12 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Doomsdayer520, I have cleaned up my move. :) – robertsky (talk) 14:09, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Question from EEnnqquuiirryy98 (21:27, 8 October 2023)
My question is about your profile of Rob Fiello, whom you have listed as a Liberal Democrat MP. I think this must be several years out of date. I regret I'm not in a position to help update the page but I am aware of Rob Fiello as Chairman of the Council of the Catholic Union of Great Britain and a Patron of Right to Life. I imagine either of those organisations could furnish you with information. Thank you. --EEnnqquuiirryy98 (talk) 21:27, 8 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @EEnnqquuiirryy98 Thanks for reaching out. However, we rely on third-party, reliable sources for inclusion of new information. If you can find any news clippings (online or offline) about his appointment, do share or you can try updating the article yourself with the news clippings as references. – robertsky (talk) 14:18, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Question from IveSpice121 (00:53, 12 October 2023)
Hello, I want to create someone for a wikipedia page --IveSpice121 (talk) 00:53, 12 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @IveSpice121 I take it that you wish to write about someone on Wikipedia. The relevant guidelines can be found here: Biographies of living persons.
 * Before you start, I would like to ask if you have at least three independent, third-party, reliable sources that you can use to write about the person. It is best to exclude resumes, profile write-ups, interviews, and self-published articles as sources.
 * If so, as this is your first article, please use the Article wizard to guide yourself through the article creation process. – robertsky (talk) 14:32, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Question from Parasrathodlawyerr (09:09, 12 October 2023)
How to steup by steup ad the boigrafy on wikipidia --Parasrathodlawyerr (talk) 09:09, 12 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Parasrathodlawyerr: it took me a while to understand your writing. If I am not mistaken, you wish to write about someone on Wikipedia. The relevant guidelines can be found here: Biographies of living persons.
 * To start your first article, do check out Help:Your first article for the brief guide.
 * Going through your brief contribution history, it seems that your English may not be your first language. I suggest editing at hi:मुखपृष्ठ may be more suitable for you for now until your command of English has improve or you confine yourself to making simple edits here till then. Cheers! – robertsky (talk) 14:38, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Ho Kwong Yew


Hello, Robertsky. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Ho Kwong Yew".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 05:57, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023
Hello , Backlog

Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by  and  with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of, and also some patches from , has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.

Articles for Creation (AFC): All new page reviewers are now automatically approved for Articles for Creation draft reviewing (you do not need to apply at WT:AFCP like was required previously). To install the AFC helper script, visit Special:Preferences, visit the Gadgets tab, tick "Yet Another AFC Helper Script", then click "Save". To find drafts to review, visit Special:NewPagesFeed, and at the top left, tick "Articles for Creation". To review a draft, visit a submitted draft, click on the "More" menu, then click "Review (AFCH)". You can also comment on and submit drafts that are unsubmitted using the script.

You can review the AFC workflow at WP:AFCR. It is up to you if you also want to mark your AFC accepts as NPP reviewed (this is allowed but optional, depends if you would like a second set of eyes on your accept). Don't forget that draftspace is optional, so moves of drafts to mainspace (even if they are not ready) should not be reverted, except possibly if there is conflict of interest.

Pro tip: Did you know that visual artists such as painters have their own SNG? The most common part of this "creative professionals" criteria that applies to artists is WP:ARTIST 4b (solo exhibition, not group exhibition, at a major museum) or 4d (being represented within the permanent collections of two museums).

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Tech News: 2023-42
<section begin="technews-2023-W42"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The Unified login system's edge login should now be fixed for some browsers (Chrome, Edge, Opera). This means that if you visit a new sister project wiki, you should be logged in automatically without the need to click "Log in" or reload the page. Feedback on whether it's working for you is welcome.
 * Edit notices are now available within the MobileFrontend/Minerva skin. This feature was inspired by the gadget on English Wikipedia. See more details in T316178.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

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 * In 3 weeks, in the Vector 2022 skin, code related to <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> and <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> that was deprecated one year ago will be removed. If you notice tools that should appear next to the "Discussion" tab are then missing, please tell the gadget's maintainers to see instructions in the Phabricator task.

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:45, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Question from Turcules (21:57, 16 October 2023)
Over the past few years, I have enjoyed having a Wikipedia page (David Turcotte) which highlighted my diverse career which began as an Olympic Athlete, then, a Data Security and Privacy Lawyer and Entrepreneur. For years, it had a comprehensive summary of all three, my career highlights etc. and it was all 100% accurate. Then, suddenly, out of nowhere, all of my legal and professional career data was gone, essentially wiping our the last 30 years of my career. What happened? --Turcules (talk) 21:57, 16 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Turcules part of the content was removed in August 2023 by @IrrationalBeing with the comment: Removed unsourced content (WP:COI?). If the content is to be reinstated, it should be done with adherence to the site's WP:COI policy, WP:VERIFIABILITY and WP:RELIABLESOURCES guidelines. – robertsky (talk) 07:04, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Question from Wattie140 on Ian Bairnson (19:13, 15 October 2023)
I was at Fort Street primary School with Ian after he moved from Shetland. At our Qualifying dance we sung "love love me" do and "please please me" Ian obviously played guitar, Kenny Clark played the drum and I sang. We also sung these two songs at our school camp at Aberfoyle. --Wattie140 (talk) 19:13, 15 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Wattie140, that's great to hear. Not sure how this can be included in the article, keeping in mind WP:TRIVIA and WP:INFO. Is this a significant event in his life? Is there any independent, third party, reliable sources that we can use for this? – robertsky (talk) 12:38, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Karimabad, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
I've noticed some strange edits and I see from Talk:Karimabad, Chitral that you suspect sockpuppetry in this area, so you may know better than I do what's going on. The history of Kiyar may be the best starting point, as that article used to be about Karimabad. I reverted a cut-paste move last week, but the redirect seems to have been hijacked to create a new article about Kiyar. I've patched things up assuming good faith, but if I've been naive then there may be more to be done. What do you think? Certes (talk) 13:42, 22 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Certes, @Ivanvector issued the blocks for the IP addresses in the discussion for block evasion. I am not sure which sock master was using the IP addresses. He maybe more aware exactly which sock master to look for and compare that with these changes. – robertsky (talk) 14:49, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I would however move Kiyar to draftspace. Looks like a copy and paste from an existing article with just some tweaks. I can't verify the sources as they are. – robertsky (talk) 14:53, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your ping. These are the work of a long-term page hijacking vandal (Sockpuppet investigations/Najaf ali bhayo). I've gone through the contribs of the most recent few socks and tried to correct their hijacking where I could, but this has been going on since at least 2014 and many of the pages are irreparably damaged now. If you see any new accounts or IPs doing this same thing again in any Chitral district or Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province pages again, please report to ANI and mention this conversation, the sockpuppet investigation, or "the Chitral page hijacking vandal", someone should know what that means. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:48, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2023-43
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Recent changes
 * There is a new Language and internationalization newsletter, written quarterly. It contains updates on new feature development, improvements in various language-related technical projects, and related support work.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Source map support has been enabled on all wikis. When you open the debugger in your browser's developer tools, you should be able to see the unminified JavaScript source code.

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:14, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Question from Konakniguide (17:33, 30 October 2023)
I want to share information related to Konkani language I can share ? --Konakniguide (talk) 17:33, 30 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Konakniguide For a start, there is an article, Konkani language, which you can improve on with your knowledge about the language. – robertsky (talk) 18:31, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-44
<section begin="technews-2023-W44"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The Structured Content team, as part of its project of improving UploadWizard on Commons, made some UX improvements to the upload step of choosing own vs not own work (T347590), as well as to the licensing step for own work (T347756).
 * The Design Systems team has released version 1.0.0 of Codex, the new design system for Wikimedia. See the full announcement about the release of Codex 1.0.0.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Listings on category pages are sorted on each wiki for that language using a library. For a brief period on 2 November, changes to categories will not be sorted correctly for many languages. This is because the developers are upgrading to a new version of the library. They will then use a script to fix the existing categories. This will take a few hours or a few days depending on how big the wiki is. You can read more.
 * Starting November 1, the impact module (Special:Impact) will be upgraded by the Growth team. The new impact module shows newcomers more data regarding their impact on the wiki. It was tested by a few wikis during the last few months.

Future changes
 * There is a proposed plan for re-enabling the Graph Extension. You can help by reviewing this proposal and sharing what you think about it.
 * The WMF is working on making it possible for administrators to edit MediaWiki configuration directly. This is similar to previous work on Special:EditGrowthConfig. A technical RfC is running until November 08, where you can provide feedback.

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:19, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

November Articles for creation backlog drive
<div style="border: 2px solid #484898; background: #FFF; background-color:#98FB98; padding: 1ex 1ex 1ex 1.5ex; margin: 0px 0px 1em 1em; font-size: 99%"> Hello Robertsky:

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive!

The goal of this drive is to reduce the backlog of unreviewed drafts to less than 2 months outstanding reviews from the current 4+ months. Bonus points will be given for reviewing drafts that have been waiting more than 30 days. The drive is running from 1 November 2023 through 30 November 2023.

You may find Category:AfC pending submissions by age or other categories and sorting helpful.

Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.

There is a backlog of over pages, so start reviewing drafts. We're looking forward to your help! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:24, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

About the up-coming AfC backlog drive
Hello! I hope I won't bother you, but I've got just a few questions about the AfC backlog drive that is about to start imminently.

Firstly, will we get points for every single review we'll get over the line (including fails), or will accepted drafts be the only ones to count? Also, I've noticed that our submissions will be re-reviewed regularly: I guess it will be up to you and @Ingenuity, since you're the coordinators, right?

Anyway, thank you for setting this drive up: I can't wait to start, and I'll do my best to help you cut the huge backlog we've accumulated! : )

Oltrepier (talk) 10:04, 31 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Oltrepier so far all reviews have been counted even the fails. As for the re-reviews, these are done on a peer basis, i.e. any of the AfC reviewers will do the re-reviews. – robertsky (talk) 12:47, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Right, thank you for clarifying! Oltrepier (talk) 18:20, 31 October 2023 (UTC)