User talk:Robinjamesshort

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Your submission at Articles for creation
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Your submission at Articles for creation
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Your recent edits
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Submission support Kissaki-kai
Sir can you please advise if you can help me correct my submission so I can get Kissaki-Kai submitted and approved on wiki, I will be willing to compensate you for your help and support  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robinjamesshort (talk • contribs) 22:57, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Sir,


 * You deleted my proposed submission based on copyright violation, however you have given me no explanation on what is copyrighted?? the topic of Kissaki-Kai karate is a style owned by Vince Morris and asll of teh copyrights on this are owned by him. I was adding the post based on his behalf and I cna have him submit you teh required information that he wons the copyright if there are coipyright issues?? Can you please advise as we really woudl like to have this submitted?


 * Sincerely Robin Short — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robinjamesshort (talk • contribs) 21:04, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Hiyas there Robinjamesshort,


 * I declined the article as a copyright violation since the text of the article was directly copied from other sources (Among, but not limited to http://www.kissakikarate.com/about.htm). The website in question specifically states that its content cannot be copied directly. Even if this had not been stated explicitly, under US law copyright is automatically granted on all written texts, and is therefor present unless the writer specifically waives these rights. Besides this Wikipedia only accepts texts that are either licensed under a GDFL or CC-BY-SA or more lenient license.


 * In short you can write an article based on external pages and you can paraphrase them, but you cannot directly copy outside content. This is mostly a bad idea regardless, since most external texts are not written in a tone and style that an encyclopedia such as Wikipedia requires. The best way forward is rewriting the submission in your own wording, while taking care to meet the verifiability and Neutral point of view criteria.


 * Kind regards, Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 09:55, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation
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 * Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Nouniquenames (talk) 13:17, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Photograph of Sensei VInce Morris 8th Dan.jpg


A tag has been placed on File:Photograph of Sensei VInce Morris 8th Dan.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the image is an unused redundant copy (all pixels the same or scaled down) of an image in the same file format, which is on Wikipedia (not on Commons), and all inward links have been updated.

If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines.  Super Mario  Man  03:49, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation
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 * Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia!  David_FLXD  (Talk) 18:36, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

July 2012
Your addition to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Kissak_Kai_Karate-do has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text, or images borrowed from other websites, or printed material without a verifiable license; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of article content, such as sentences or images&mdash;you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. ''This is at least the second occasion on which you have engaged in copyright violation. Please pay attention to these warnings and do not copy from other sources. Wikipedia regards these violations as a serious offence.  David_FLXD  (Talk) 18:42, 15 July 2012 (UTC)''

Specific samples showing copyright violation:
Text sample: "Training partners are encouraged to make controlled and focused contact with their opponent, but to withdraw their attack as soon as surface contact has been made"

Identical text found pre-existing at:
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotokan
 * http://woodbinekarate.com/files/seminar_registration.pdf

Text sample: "Kumite within the dojo often differs from competition kumite. In dojo kumite any and all techniques, within reason, are valid; punches, knife hand strikes, headbutt, locks, takedowns, kicks, etc. In competition certain regulations apply, certain techniques are valid, and certain target areas, such as the joints or throat, are forbidden."

Identical text found pre-existing at:
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotokan_Karate
 * http://pediaview.com/openpedia/Shotokan
 * http://uk.ask.com/wiki/Shotokan
 * http://shotokankaratesite.weebly.com/kata-kumite-and-kihon.html
 * http://www.karaterayleigh.co.uk/fundamentals
 * http://www.rtbot.net/free_one_step_sparring
 * http://medlibrary.org/medwiki/Shotokan
 * http://www.karategb.com/home/archives/date/2011/02

 David_FLXD  (Talk) 18:48, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation
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 * Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Robinjamesshort (talk) 21:17, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Sir,

Please advise what the copyrighted material is that you have declined this page on?? as I have permission from the owner of teh material to post as listed on teh submission itself

ability to edit and update Kissak Karate submission
Sir,

can you please make my contribution available again so I cna be afforded the opportunity to update and make corrections that will not be a copyright violation, as I did not save my references and look up and there is a lot of research that will be lost there?

Thank you


 * Hi Rjs,
 * As contained in the warning text above, please see Donating_copyrighted_materials.


 * From that page, to make it easy for you to reference, I have copied this small section:

If you are not the copyright holder of the material you cannot donate rights to Wikipedia! The last thing we want are copyright problems: we try to be ruthless in rooting out material where there is even the slightest question about our right to use it.

For example:
 * Most web pages do not allow their material to be freely copied. Unless the material is either public domain, carries a copyleft notice compatible with the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 Unported License, or you have explicit permission to use it, please don't copy and paste from other web sites into Wikipedia. (Requesting copyright permission provides information on obtaining and verifying explicit permission.)
 * If you are the original author but the rights have been assigned to your publisher, you have given up the ability to license the work to us.


 * Regarding your request for specific grounds for copyright violation, I already listed specific examples and specific possible sources as above. I note that you asked Excirial the same thing.
 * Regarding your claim on this talk page that you have permission to use such material:
 * Such a claim by itself is not proof.
 * You made the same claim previously, and have not yet submitted any proof.
 * If you do in fact have permission from the copyright holder, that will be complicated by the fact that the same text has been previously published on other websites. Some of them may be guilty of copyright violation, but that is not within Wikipedia's control. The fact that the text has been published elsewhere would seem to indicate that the copyright holder at some point did release the text to someone. The terms of the licence under which it was then released would first have to be established.
 * If you are determined to assert your right to use the material, you will have to FIRST prove that you have that right.
 * Given all of the above, I suggest that it would be much, much easier to rewrite the content in your own words, so that it does not constitute a copyright violation.
 * In regard to your request to have the article unblanked, I do not know, at this point, whether a Wikipedia administrator will be prepared to let you have your text back.
 * However, please answer here, stating clearly which path you intend to follow from this point forward:


 * 1. If I can get the text back, I plan to rewrite the article in my own words, so that there is no longer any copyright violation.


 * 2. I plan to assert the permission I have from the copyright owner, and will submit proof of this before attempting to continue with the article


 * 3. I feel that I have been badly treated by the six reviewers who have all rejected my article seven times between them, and would like to complain to an administrator.


 * 4. I want to give up on this article and perhaps contribute something else.


 * 5. I want to do something else, not listed here, and I will explain what that is in my answer.


 * When you let me know what you would like to do, I will try to assist you in that. If you would like to complain to an administrator, I would rather leave it open as to which one you get. In that case I suggest that you place a request for administrator intervention by adding a new section at the Administrators' Noticeboard (Incidents).

Regards,  David_FLXD  (Talk) 11:11, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi I plan to rewrite the article in a different format without any of the text that is called into question


 * Hi Rjs, thanks for your answer. I will see what I can do to get your text back so you can work on it. I cannot promise anything, it will be the administrator's decision. Whether you get the original article back or you have to start over, please make sure you put the whole article into your own words, using neutral, formal language. So long as you are willing to work at bringing the article into line with Wikipedia standards, I am happy to help you get there.


 * On another issue, please do sign your posts on all discussion pages (including this one!) by typing four tildes, like this: ~ . It makes it much easier to see who said what!


 * I know you must be anxious, but please be a little patient and allow several hours, or even a day or two: we are all volunteers and donate our time for free. I promise you will not be forgotten, and if it looks like taking days rather than hours I will keep you informed in the meantime. I have already notified one admin and hope they will respond soon.


 * Regards,  David_FLXD  (Talk) 12:37, 16 July 2012 (UTC) ( <<<<< see - four tildes, and there's my sig, date, time and everything! :-)

Thanks I have already written a new article and I feel there are no copyright issues etc, and I have submitte dthis now, so hopefully we can move on with the next submission.. Thanks Robinjamesshort

Your submission at Articles for creation
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Copyright problems with File:Image of Vince Morris Karateka.jpg
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Speedy deletion nomination of Kissaki kai


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Speedy deletion nomination of Kissaki-kai


A tag has been placed on Kissaki-kai requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article or image appears to be a clear copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Text moved from talk page of deleted article
Cpyright approval for kissaki Kai karate on Wikipedia has been consented under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 Unported License (CC-BY-SA) and the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) (unversioned, with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts). This has been given by Vince Morris, www.kissakikarate.com contact email [Contact information deleted (see Wikipedia's guidelines on inappropriate promotion).]

The intenet of the article is to further explain Kissaki karate. its history and evoultion and mission— Preceding unsigned comment added by Robinjamesshort (talk • contribs)

Copyright permission should be sent to WP:OTRS following the process labeled at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. Even if the permission was given, there would still be some issues that the article is written in a promotional manner. I'm also concerned that the subject may be notable. A search for Kissaki-Kai Karate yields few results. Do you have secondary sources, i.e. from news agencies and the like? Ryan Vesey Review me! 18:05, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(Above moved and pasted from deleted page Talk:Kissak-Kai Karate) Calmer   Waters  22:34, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Kissaki-kai karate


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