User talk:Rochewiki

==Notability of Lords of the North== A tag has been placed on Lords of the North requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article, which appears to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable. If this is the first page that you have created, then you should read the guide to writing your first article.

If you think that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the article (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Jons63 (talk) 05:40, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

You should wait for others to write an article about subjects in which you are personally involved. This applies to articles about you, your achievements, your band, your business, your publications, your website, your relatives, and any other possible conflict of interest.

Creating an article about yourself is strongly discouraged. If you create such an article, it might be listed on articles for deletion. Deletion is not certain, but many feel strongly that you should not start articles about yourself. This is because independent creation encourages independent validation of both significance and verifiability. All edits to articles must conform to No original research, Neutral point of view, and Verifiability.

If you are not "notable" under Wikipedia guidelines, creating an article about yourself may violate the policy that Wikipedia is not a personal webspace provider and would thus qualify for speedy deletion. If your achievements, etc., are verifiable and genuinely notable, and thus suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later. (See Wikipedians with articles.)  Jons63 (talk) 05:40, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Lords of the North deletion
Speedy deletions are mostly a housekeeping matter. As an admin, mostly I look to see if the reason given for why an article was nominated was accurate and valid. Of course I check to see if there is an obvious reason why the article shouldn't be deleted but I don't do extensive research into sourcing. Bluntly, I just don't have the time to do such research on every article nominated; few admins do. Nothing in the article asserted the WP:MUSIC notability of the group. Comparing LotN to other "stoner rock" group articles on WP is not a valid argument on Wikipedia. See WP:WAX. Articles are judged on their own merits, not by comparison to similar articles.

While not a reason to delete the article, I also noted that there were no verifiable or reliable sources in the article. A couple of CD reviews hardly count as significant coverage. If you have any more questions, please ask on my talk page. Cheers, Pigman ☿ 20:37, 1 September 2008 (UTC)