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Don Fambrough
Per WP:BLP, we need a source verifying his death. Can you provide one? – Connormah (talk) 19:06, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. – Connormah (talk) 19:48, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks again. I was also trying to find a source, but you got to err on the side of caution when it's something like this and not post it without a source. I've also removed the "passed away" part per WP:EUPHEMISM, but other than that, all looks good. – Connormah (talk) 19:52, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, if the Twitter account was an official account, I think it can be considered a reliable source, but since we've got the news article, it's unnecessary now. – Connormah (talk) 19:56, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Exactly - again, thanks for the understanding/help, etc. – Connormah (talk) 20:00, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Wichita South High School
No. Its the class of 2001. Im a South alum and I also played football there. My sister, was a member of the senior class of 2001 and the football team didnt win a single game in her time there. Under 2 usernames and a few different IP addresses, I've written about 90% of the article. Everything I have written is the truth, just a lot of it I have had trouble being able to find references for it. I've done what I could.--Rockchalk717 (talk) 16:08, 3 September 2011 (UTC)


 * You've done a great job, but the problem with the article, and most high school articles, is Verifiability because there is a lack of References.
 * Search the Wichita-Eagle newspaper website and other sources to backup your claims with references.
 * You should look at WikiProject Schools guideline, and some other great high scool articles:
 * Garden City High School (KS), Plano Senior High School (TX), Johnson Senior High School (MN), Stuyvesant High School (NY).
 * Please read the "Editing, Creating, and Maintaining Articles" chapter from the book Wikipedia : The Missing Manual, ISBN 9780596515164.
 * • Sbmeirow  •  Talk  •  01:18, 4 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Please add some references to the history section. It looks great but needs the references.  You can reference printed books, and I did it on the Peabody, Kansas article because of the lack of online information.  •  Sbmeirow  •  Talk  •  07:04, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Your user page
Tip: You should create your user page at User:Rockchalk717. • Sbmeirow  •  Talk  •  01:22, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Bakhtiari
Hey again. In regards to your edit to the Chiefs' roster template, team websites are, as I told you during the Palmer incident, unreliable and inaccurate often. ProFootballWeekly is the website used for roster templates changes here, as they get their information directly from the official NFL transaction wire, unlike team websites. On August 29, ProFootballWeekly said that Bakhtiari was waived/injured, a designation that results in a player landing on his original team's injured reserve list once he passes through waivers unclaimed. On August 30, PFW said that Bakhtiari passed through waivers and was subsequently placed on the Chiefs' injured reserve list as expected. Until the Chiefs release him with an injury settlement (I've also heard that players who go through this process are eligible to play in week 7 or so, but injury settlements are more common), Bakhtiari will remain on the injured reserve list.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  03:06, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thats wierd as hell. That transaction list on their website is crazy detailed and has every small little transaction on it and nowhere on it does mention him being put on IR. But I also found him on nfl.com as on IR, nothing against profootball weekly, but I personally trust nfl.com over profootball weekly. I really gotta start finding more sources I feel like an idiot when I get corrected like this.--Rockchalk717 (talk) 03:18, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It's from the official NFL transaction wire, which, I assume, also has every bit of detail. Here it says "KANSAS CITY - Reserve/injured: LB Eric Bakhtiari (head)" (reserve/injured obviously meaning injured reserve). And no, NFL.com is not as accurate as PFW for some reason.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  03:22, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * That is a bit of a head scratcher. I saw the transactions on there. That does pretty much clinch me not being able to trust team websites anymore. Not that they can't be trusted for anything, but its going to be harder.--Rockchalk717 (talk) 03:25, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * While thinking about it, are practice squad players supposed to have "Active" as their roster status?? Because none of the Chiefs players on their practice squad have their roster status stating that.--Rockchalk717 (talk) 03:27, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I just don't understand why they wouldn't use official transactions. Practice squad players should have "Practice squad" as their roster status. With 1,100 players released in the past two days, along with around 250 signed to practice squads, the guys who update roster templates haven't bothered updating the player pages. We've left the pages to the IPs and other users, but some pages just don't get updated quickly. Feel free to update them and any other outdated pages you see.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  03:32, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Neither do I. It doesn't make much sense the leagues offical website wouldn't do that. But I understand that. I've got dual fanhood, I'm a diehard Chiefs and Bengals both, so I will update those. I work in the AM so I don't feel like staying up late updating them all. Lol--Rockchalk717 (talk) 03:35, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, ya do what you can here. If we got paid to edit on the other hand...  Eagles   24/7  (C)  03:39, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ha ha. It would be way different, I already know.--Rockchalk717 (talk) 03:42, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Butch Lewis (American football)
Hi! It seems you recently created an unreferenced biography of a living person: Butch Lewis (American football). The community has decided that all new biographies of living persons must contain a reliable source that supports at least one statement made about the person in the article as per our verifiability policy. Please add references as soon as possible. Thanks! --LaraBot (talk) 00:10, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Chiefs template
I'm sorry if I came off as rude. I was just tired because I've seen many, many wrong edits recently. If you want to know the procedures, ask me, Eagles247, Pats1, or anyone else who works on the rosters and we'd be glad to help. Again, I'm sorry if I came off as rude. RevanFan (talk) 18:58, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Just remember, if you're adding a player to a team, check if the player has been on the team before, and if they have, find what their number was. I do this by looking in the past history of the template. Also, remember to find their full position, like OLB versus MLB/ILB. Don't just use LB. Also, the most important part of all, update the roster count when adding a transaction. If you have any questions, ask away. Now, I'd like to forget about my stupidity in the "interaction with others" department. RevanFan (talk) 19:25, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

TMZ
Has consensus established that TMZ is now OK? I remember that there was great resistance to using the site when Michael Jackson was first reported dead. For the record, I think they most likely are correct about the divorce; I was just trying to act conservatively. Zagal e jo^^^ 17:34, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Phog Allen
Rockchalk717, I saw your edit on Phog Allen re: him playing football at Kansas. Where did you find that photo of the 1905 team? Thanks. Jweiss11 (talk) 17:43, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Jason Taylor Tackles
I went onto Pro-Football Reference and got 777. According to them he had 530 tackles and 247 Assisted Tackles. I'm no math wiz but it seems they add to 777. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TaylJa03.htm?redir

If you see something different, I would mind being proven wrong. Thanks. Have a good day! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.111.51.195 (talk) 00:12, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Tony Gonzalez cat
Thanks I just categorized him based on List of vegans. I appreciate your note. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:13, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

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Peyton Manning
Rockchalk, Peyton Manning has been released:


 * http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7656028/indianapolis-colts-peyton-manning-part-ways-14-seasons
 * http://www.nfl.com/videos/indianapolis-colts/09000d5d82770a25/Peyton-Thank-you-from-the-bottom-of-my-heart?module=HP11_cp

Even the Colts official website indicates that he has been released.


 * http://www.colts.com/news/article-1/COLTS-RELEASE-MANNING/43a2a767-1cd7-4033-9433-7a3073755078

I'm reverting your change. Please check your sources again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Irixman (talk • contribs) 17:55, 7 March 2012 (UTC)


 * "Indianapolis has chosen not to exercise the contract option on quarterback Peyton Manning. The four-time MVP and 11-time Pro Bowl Manning is an unrestricted free agent". That's from the Colts official website. Can you clarify why you are maintaining that Peyton Manning has not be released, considering the official site says he is "an unrestricted free agent"? Thanks -- Irixman (t) (m) 18:16, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Luke Patterson
I found the source myself awhile ago. It was on the Chiefs' site. Their postseason media guide PDF said that he was #74 and Maneri was #68. The PR team just never updated the website. He probably still is #74. RevanFan (talk) 22:17, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

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Thomas Robinson

 * And again. --Mosmof (talk) 04:42, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

West Virginia football
Glad we were able to reach a compromise, no reason to keep bickering over the conference formalities. Cheers!  Swcrowe  message 04:19, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

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Seau
Please join the discussion at Talk:Junior Seau to help build consensus. Thanks.—Bagumba (talk) 17:04, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
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List of current UFC fighters

 * Nicknames: While I understand your point about listing Rampage as Quinton, this would break the consistency with which fighter names are listed in this article. All fighter names are taken from UFC.com profiles where available, to avoid confusion. This may seem silly in cases like Rampage Jackson, or Minotauro Nogueira, but consider Cheick Kongo, Tito Ortiz, Gleison Tibau, Frank Mir, Akira Corassani, Cub Swanson, or even fighters like Dongi Yang, or T.J. Waldburger (who's names are not necessarily exactly their given names). There are too many fighters using pseudonyms that most people don't realize to try and list them without a common system. Because of this all fighter names are taken from UFC.com. This may result in a few slightly controversial decisions, but it makes the overall process much easier.Thaddeus Venture (talk) 15:58, 29 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I understand that, but it doesn't address any of the points I mentioned, and I have no interest in changing the name of his personal wiki-article. His name here links directly to the article, so it should be relatively apparent to anyone clicking the link that Rampage Jackson and Quinton Jackson are the same person. We aren't really supposed to use other Wikipedia articles as sources for new ones, as such saying that his name is displayed this way or that on other pages isn't really helpful. Sources need to be cited, and as such the easiest and most consistent source for current UFC fighters to site is UFC.com. The best way I can explain it is if I were to create an article about the 2006-2007 Lakers and I wanted to get their roster I would, find a sports database, and use the names it provided as they would all be cite-able to that database. And they would probably give me William Henry Parker as "Smush" Parker. Now I realize that his wiki-article is under "Smush" Parker, but he may be listed differently on different pages, none the less I would use "Smush" because I could cite it easily along with the rest of the Lakers. In such circumstances I'm not really interested in how well the information I'm getting represents the entirety of a persons identity, only that it creates a consistent, cite-able format that I can use throughout the article. The same can be said of the UFC. It doesn't really matter how well each name, nationality, or nickname, totally represents a person, only that it is consistent throughout the article and it is all cite-able. To try and relieve any disambiguity I have listed people's names that are common nicknames as nicknames, i.e. Rampage Jackson's nickname is Rampage, to show that this is a nickname rather than a proper name. And I have added a note to the article to say that the names listed may include nicknames, partial names, or pseudonyms and that all names are taken directly from UFC.com. Unless you can think of a dramatically better way of doing this (which I would be happy to hear and consider, as I have been on the receiving end of many good pieces of advice since developing this article) then I hope that you may be swayed by my argument that a little bit of controversy is merely the price of consistency.Thaddeus Venture (talk) 15:39, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

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Phog Allen and List of Kansas Jayhawks men's basketball seasons
Rockchalk717, List of Kansas Jayhawks men's basketball seasons is part a rather fledgling set of articles that have yet to be sufficiently standardized. As this point, it should not be used as a standard for formatting for articles like Phog Allen. If you want to work on standardizing those basketball seasons lists, that would be a great project. I'd recommend checking out List of Alabama Crimson Tide football seasons and synching up with User:Patriarca12 at the outset. Thanks. Jweiss11 (talk) 17:27, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Ochocinco/Johnson
I see what your saying now. That the NFL.com and Dolphins profile has him listed as Ochocinco. 71.180.203.153 (talk) 22:00, 9 July 2012 (UTC) Because I think because his twitter page was Chad Johnson people thought he changed his name back to Johnson. 71.180.203.153 (talk) 22:00, 9 July 2012 (UTC) But there's no official announcement yet. 71.180.203.153 (talk) 22:00, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

WP:CITEKILL
What's this supposed to mean? What there something wrong? 71.180.203.153 (talk) 03:29, 8 August 2012 (UTC) Well OK I see the point. 71.180.203.153 (talk) 18:59, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

List of current UFC fighters

 * Just a heads up, as of UFC on Fox 4 the UFC has started using the English flag for English fighters, I'm personally very happy about this as the use of the Union Jack never made much sense in the first place. They only ever used it for english fighters and not any other fighters from the UK. But now they are using the english flag. If you can get hold of the Tale of the Tape from De Fries vs. Thompson, you can see it there. Also, jsyk, I actually wrote and developed all of the content for this article, but I am ecstatic to see someone else referencing it.Thaddeus Venture (talk) 23:40, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Not a problem.Thaddeus Venture (talk) 07:02, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

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