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Hi there. Thanks for your contribution to my WP:RS question. One editor that is in dispute with me seem to take it as supporting it as a reliable source. Is that actually so? I noticed a sense of irony in your reply. Anyway, if you could clarify this for me, I would be grateful. Thanks! The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 18:11, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

London move
Re: your message at Talk:London, England, I was doing a history merge, so that the credits for everyone's edit stays in one place. I probably should have put a note in the move summary saying it'd be back at the right title soon, but I forgot about it. The way I do history merges clutters up people's watchlists, but saves the servers an awful lot of grief - if I did a straight move from London, England to London, the database would have probably been locked for ten minutes because of the shock. Hope this helps some ... I might do some more surgery on Talk:London, England soon. Graham 87 10:31, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Also, archiving your talk page is much better etiquette than just blanking it. User:MiszaBot can do that automatically if you add some text to the top of your talk page - see User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo. Graham 87 10:58, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


 * ok thanks, i should have been more patient --Rockybiggs (talk) 10:58, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

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Hi, I just visited the above page after flagging it as in desperate need of attention on the Milhist proj page in February (when it looked like this) and was amazed at the difference there. Clearly this is largely thanks to your hard work in expanding it, so I just wanted to stop by and say that your effort hasn't gone unnoticed. Nice job :-) Sassf (talk) 11:15, 8 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I have partially copyedited this. I found that the very large amount of text devoted to online links within the main body of the article made it difficult to add to or amend the article; also, there were several duplications of very long urls, resulting an an unnecessarily large article. A further consideration is that "Google Books" is not a publisher; it is an online source for book text, and it is theoretically possible that books may be removed from Google if there were publishing or authorship disputes. I have applied a different scheme for "The Oxford History of the British Army", one of the most commonly quoted sources within the article. The changes have made the text of the article more accessible to editors (although this may perhaps not be a Good Thing) and have also reduced the article size by 3Kb. I will hold off performing similar edits to other citations until you have had a chance to review and comment upon the changes, as you have contributed so much to the article since its creation. HLGallon (talk) 02:55, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

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 * Ok thanks for the message, comments noted.--Rockybiggs (talk) 18:58, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

"Hutch"
Just to say that we can cite the Daily Mail article, which says 42 turned up, more easily that the documentary which said there were 30. Personally I'd be happy if that number turned up to mine (..happy, but dead). Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:05, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


 * ok ive no problem with 42, but maybe you could add the inline citation to avoid future changes.--Rockybiggs (talk) 11:12, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Will do. Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:14, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

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Anglo-Iraq war
Hi regarding your recent edit to the aritcle - i think you have missed the point somewhat. While it may be well known that the country became indy; previous editors have stated it was indy in name only i.e. the British were in control still - this does need a citation. If you have one for it then please add it in - otherwise the tag should remain.

Common knowledge is no subsitution for some sort of inline citation proving the fact.--EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 15:35, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Cecil Rhodes
On face value, this edit, and the accompanying comment are completely reasonable and, in isolation, justifiable. If I'd come across it for the first time, I would probably have done exactly the same. Also, you would have been completely justified in complaining about the use of "weasel words". So you can see that I'm not complaining about your edit per se.

However, what you may not know is that the words that are there are the "consensus" (yes, that's a euphamism for "compomise") of a (in my opinion) tediously long, unpleasant and pedantic "discussion" (yes, that's a euphamism for "edit war") about the difference between "colonialism" and "imperialism".

Given the time elapsed since the heated discussion, I imagine "some would say imperialism" could be replaced by "and/or imperialism" with impunity. However, my fear is that the complete removal of the word "imperialism" will rekindle the "edit war", and to be frank, I really don't want to go through that again!

So, what do you think is a better way to "solve" this combination of problems in order that the minimum number of people (hopefully zero) will be provoked into yet-another-edit war?

Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 10:32, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


 * To be honest `some might say` is wrong, plus there is also no source to back up the statement `some might say`. The whole basis of the concensus from what i can see is wrong and should never have been en-acted. I personally think its more than covered already by Colonialism but would consider `or imperialism`, with a source. However as an editor can be and should be An WP:Bold, why not leave it as imperialism Colonialism --Rockybiggs (talk) 11:00, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I completely agree that "some might say" is not appropriate. (That's what I was referring to regarding "weasel words".) Absolutely NO disagreement from me on that one!
 * "The whole basis of the concensus from what i can see is wrong and should never have been en-acted." - I'm afraid you are missing the point. What YOU think TODAY is irrelevant to the discussion that occurred THEN, and the consensus (oops, I mis-spelt it again; thank you for politely not emphasising my mis-spelling!) that was achieved THEN.
 * However, what IS relevant TODAY is: "What do we want it to say now?"
 * "I personally think its more than covered already by Colonialism but would consider `or imperialism`, with a source." - Why do you say "imperialism" needs a source, but "colonialism" doesn't? Personally, I think they BOTH need sources. (And if you go back through the history, you will see excessive numbers of reasons why colonialism does AND doesn't cover imperialism! ;-)
 * "why not leave it as imperialism" - I'm not sure what you mean. If you mean "replace the word colonialism with the word imperialism", then my answer is: "Because I don't want to re-kindle the edit-war."
 * Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 11:41, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I amended my statement above as i quickly wrote (and mistakenly so), i also understand you would like it to just say Colonialism (which is what i meant after my amendment/strike out above). I agree it should remain as colonialism with a source (a source shouldn`t be to hard to find).--Rockybiggs (talk) 11:55, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


 * That's easier to understand!
 * However, I fear that removing either of the words will result in rekindling the edit war.
 * I'm interested that you say "i also understand you would like it to just say Colonialism". As it happens, my personal focus has not been anywhere even vaguely close to thinking about what I personally would want it to say! - I've been solely focussed on averting edit war. To be honest, it's been so long since I checked the definitions that I've forgotten what the significance of the difference between the two terms is! To me, it's clear that Rhodes actively pursued both! Pdfpdf (talk) 15:04, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Rhodes and Imperialism
I don't understand just which is/are the aspect(s) of Rhodes and Imperialism that are leading you remove "imperialism". After you have actually read the article and the talk page, which quite clearly, you haven't please explain.

The following all make it abundantly clear that Rhodes was an imperialist, and they all have a pile of supporting references:
 * Imperialism - even has a picture of Rhodes in the article!
 * Cape to Cairo Railway
 * Cape to Cairo Road
 * Cairo-Cape Town Highway
 * The Rhodes Colossus
 * Scramble for Africa
 * New Imperialism
 * British Empire
 * Cecil Rhodes
 * Cecil Rhodes
 * Cecil Rhodes
 * Cecil Rhodes
 * Talk:Cecil Rhodes
 * Talk:Cecil Rhodes
 * Talk:Cecil Rhodes
 * etc.

Do you require more? Pdfpdf (talk) 12:33, 14 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Some might argue he wasn`t an Imperialist, but rather a `Rhodeist` who beleived in his own profit and standing. As when Rhodes and Britains ambitions were not the same he pushed for his own agenda ahead of Britains.--Rockybiggs (talk) 11:51, 24 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm a bit confused.
 * I agree that there is very little doubt, and abundant amounts of evidence, that Rhodes was first and foremost a 'Rhodeist'! I also agree that he wasn't the sort of man to let mere reality, or anything else for that matter, get in his way. Those points are not in dispute. (Well, I'm not disputing them.)
 * The questions we have been discussing are: "Was Rhodes a colonialist?" and "Was Rhodes an imperialist?" To me, there is no doubt, and plenty of evidence, that as well as many other things, he was also both a colonialist and an imperialist.
 * Is it your point of view that he wasn't an imperialist?
 * If that is not your pov, then what are we arguing about?
 * If that is your pov, then can you explain to me what leads you to say he wasn't an imperialist?
 * Also, regarding the statement "Some might argue he wasn`t an Imperialist, but rather a `Rhodeist`", I don't think "Imperialist" and "Rhodeist" are mutually exclusive. In fact, I think the opposite - I think they are mutually supportive. Hence, I guess I'd disgree that aspect of the statement that says he wasn't, or couldn't be, both an imperialist and a Rhodeist.
 * Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:46, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for telling me after the horse bolted? and issuing unjustified comments without right to reply. Note there is a consensus on the talk page --Rockybiggs (talk) 11:07, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

I would also like to add why wasn't the other user facing the same, despite my requests to him to goto talk page, and his obvious history of reverting without EVER going to the talk page?--Rockybiggs (talk) 11:04, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

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