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Concern about rejection of updated content about Jonathan Club
On July 24, I posted an updated page on Wikipedia about the Jonathan Club. However, my content was removed and the previous Jonathan Club page was restored in its place.

I'm curious why. Any guidance you can provide would be appreciated. I'm happy to discuss with you what I hoped to achieve and how my work came to be.

I abided by Wikipedia's rules, and I believe my work aligns with Wikipedia's goal of providing accurate content based on solid research.

I'm an individual who's interested in history. I undertook this project on my own time and my own dime. As a former Associated Press reporter, I prefer writing that is good and information that is instructive. I felt the existing Jonathan Club page on Wikipedia was poorly researched, was thin in its writing, and left many questions unanswered.

After doing substantial research, I concluded that only a few paragraphs of the existing page were salvageable. The rest required an extensive rewrite to provide an accurate picture of what the club does and the breadth of its membership. For the sake of simplicity, I incorporated the salvageable material into my rewrite. I included lots of citations so readers would know where my material came from.

I look forward to hearing from you. Thanks in advance.

Roger Gillott (aka RodgerDodger1)

So you can see my updated content and compare it to the existing Jonathan Club page, I've pasted it here:

Jonathan Club

Jonathan Club is a private social club with two locations — one in Downtown Los Angeles on South Figueroa Street and the other abutting the beach in Santa Monica. The club is routinely ranked as one of the top clubs in the world by Platinum Clubs of America.[1]

History

The club has two founding dates set in stone at the entrance to its Downtown Los Angeles building — 1894 (when it was a political club) and 1895 (when it segued into a non-political social club and was chartered by State of California). The club bases its anniversaries on the June 8, 1895 date.[2] What the club does

The club provides dining, events, and athletic and wellness programs for members, their families and guests; maintains an extensive California art collection; offers programs to support the military; presents awards to Americans who have achieved great stature in their fields; and is involved in a variety of outreach programs for members to help their communities.[3] Membership

New members are nominated by existing members. The club welcomes members regardless of race, religion, gender or sexual orientation. It has more than 600 female members.[4]

Founding board of directors[5]

George L. Alexander, president; agent for type foundry company selling equipment to printers

John B. Bushnell, vice president; railroad executive; stockbroker

Ferdinand K. Rule, second vice president (later president for eight terms); general manager of L.A. Terminal Railway; president of La Fiesta de Los Angeles and Los Angeles Chamber of Commerce

E. M. Burgoyne, secretary; U.S. Post Office clerk

C.H. White, treasurer; number two executive in Los Angeles for the Southern Pacific Railroad

Hancock Banning, director; like his father, Hancock was a Southern California pioneer who founded city of Wilmington and port; family owned Catalina Island before selling to Wrigleys

Benjamin F. Day, director; music store executive

George C. Gaskill, director; agent for company selling teas and mat-making materials

Bradner W. Lee, director; prominent attorney who handled, among other matters, the estate of Lucky Baldwin

George P. Taylor, director; tailor

Edward B. Tufts, director; owner of sporting goods and bicycle shop; brought serious golf to city and created its first golf club (now the Los Angeles Country Club)

Select prominent members[6]

In addition to the founding board of directors, some prominent members since the club’s inception include:

John D. Bicknell, founder of law firm that became Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher

Herman Wolf Hellman, founder of Farmers & Merchants Bank; real estate investor

Henry Huntington, railroad builder; land developer; rare art and book collector

James Boon Lankershim, land developer

John D. Spreckels, sugar and steamship entrepreneur

Meredith Pinxton Snyder, banker; Los Angeles police chief, city councilman and mayor (three times)

Peter Janss, developed East Los Angeles communities; philanthropist

Edward Laurence Doheny, oilman

Maurice Newmark, family built merchandise and grocery business into largest firm in Los Angeles

Harry Chandler, publisher of the Los Angeles Times

Mericos Hector Whittier, oil industry pioneer; land developer

William Wrigley Jr., chewing gum magnate

A.P. Giannini, founder of Bank of Italy (later Bank of America)

Edgar Rice Burroughs, adventure and science fiction author

Robert A. Millikan, experimental physicist; recipient of the Nobel Prize; longtime president of California Institute of Technology

Admiral C.C. Bloch, commander of 14th Naval District during Dec. 7, 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor

George Pepperdine, founded Western Auto Supply; philanthropist; endowed George Pepperdine College (later Pepperdine University)

Jesse Louis Lasky, created first permanent feature film company in what would become Hollywood; a founder of Paramount Pictures

Tom Mix, early Western movie star

Gordon Bernie Kaufman, prominent architect

Rear Admiral Isaac Campbell Kidd, career U.S. Naval officer who perished aboard USS Arizona in 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor; posthumously received Medal of Honor

Ben Meyer, president of Union Bank; first president of Federation of Jewish Welfare Organizations

Earl Warren, governor of California; chief justice of U.S. Supreme Court

John Henry Dockweiler, civil engineer; involved in design and construction of Los Angeles cable railway system

Buster Keaton, silent screen star

Hal Roach, comedy writer, director and producer; created Hal Roach Studios

Harold Lloyd, comedy movie star in silents and talkies; founded own studio

Edmund G. Brown, lawyer and politician; governor of California

Paul Gray Hoffman, automobile executive; president of Ford Foundation; received Medal of Freedom for work as first administrator of Marshall Plan after WWII

John A. McCone, industrialist; head of Atomic Energy Commission; director of CIA; headed McCone Commission to investigate causes of 1965 Watts riots and propose cures to avoid future outbreaks

Ronald Reagan, movie actor; governor of California; president of the United States

Arnold O. Beckman, prolific chemist and inventor; industrialist; funded first transistor company and fueled creation of Silicon Valley; philanthropist, including to Caltech where he studied and taught

Peter O’Malley, owner and president of Los Angeles Dodgers

Locations

In 1924 a contract was let for what Southwest Builder and Contractor magazine called a "magnificent new home" for the club—its present brick-faced structure at 545 S. Figueroa Street, one block west of the Los Angeles Public Library.[7]

Since 1927, the club has had a beach location in Santa Monica, in a building designed by architect Gene Verge, Sr.[8]

References

[1] Platinum Clubs of America, published by Club Leaders Forum

[2] Nat Read, The Jonathan Club Story, first edition 2005, second edition 2015, Los Angeles Public Library

[3] Discover Los Angeles (https://www.discoverlosangeles.com/hotels/jonathan-club)

[4] Jonathan Club policies and historical archives

[5] Nat Read, The Jonathan Club Story, first edition 2005, second edition 2015, Los Angeles Public Library

[6] Jonathan Club historical archives

[7] Southwest Builder and Contractor (July 11, 1924) page 47

[8] The City of Beverly Hills: Historic Resources Inventory (1985-1986)

External links Official website

RodgerDodger1 RodgerDodger1 (talk) 20:11, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

RodgerDodger1 (talk) 01:48, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

RodgerDodger1 (talk) 01:53, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

Two questions
Are you the same person as the account named JonathanClub?

Do you have any relationship to the Club - other than being a member, that is. If so, you need to declare it. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 17:52, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

In response to questions from Doug Weller:

(1) No, I am NOT the same person as the account named JonathanClub. I am an individual.

(2) I am a former Associated Press reporter. As such, my only interest is being accurate and concise. I have no affiliation with the Jonathan Club other than being a member. I have done this on my own time and at my own expense for the sake of accuracy.