User talk:Roland Werner

Welcome!
Hello, Roland Werner, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful: Please remember to sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or and a volunteer will visit you here shortly. Again, welcome! Fiddle  Faddle  09:16, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Oswald Werner (October 16)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


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Fiddle  Faddle  09:16, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Reply to your Articles for Creation Help Desk question
Hello, Roland Werner! I'm Timtrent. I have replied to your question about a submission at the WikiProject Articles for Creation Help Desk. Fiddle  Faddle  21:41, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Oswald Werner has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Oswald Werner. Thanks! Fiddle  Faddle  21:53, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

There is much to do
Have a look at Infobox person for the details you have tried to put into a table. I have also set up the section headings for you. Fiddle  Faddle  22:10, 16 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Work steadily and deliberately. When in doubt, ask. There is no deadline save that you set yourself. So work in quietness on it, section by section, fining references and discarding that which you do not find references for. Sooner than you think it will look decent. Soon after that it is likely to be ready. Fiddle   Faddle  22:35, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I have filled in some of the infobox for you. I'll leave you to fit the rest of the data in. It's what I mean by working quietly and steadily. When you need help or advice go to my talk page and ask me. If I know the answer I'll do my best. If not I'll point you at a place to discover it. Fiddle   Faddle  22:52, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
 * References. I see you are fighting these. Take a break to study WP:REFB and WP:CITE. You will then be armed with the tools you need. Fiddle   Faddle  22:58, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Help me!I just lost nearly half of my work. Can I go back and retrive the third to last save?Roland Werner 23:24, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
Please help me with...

Roland Werner 23:24, 23 October 2014 (UTC)


 * The History tab is for precisley that purpose. You may edit and save any prior version. That will then become the current version. Use the facility wisely Fiddle   Faddle  23:34, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Oswald Werner has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Oswald Werner. Thanks! Fiddle  Faddle  20:45, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia and copyright
Hello Roland Werner, and welcome to Wikipedia. Your addition to Draft:Oswald Werner has had to be removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material without permission from the copyright holder. While we appreciate your contributing to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from your sources to avoid copyright or plagiarism issues here.


 * You can only copy/translate a small amount of a source, and you must mark what you take as a direct quotation with double quotation marks (") and a cited source. You can read about this at Non-free content in the sections on "text". See also Help:Referencing for beginners, for how to cite sources here.
 * Aside from limited quotation, you must put all information in your own words and structure, in proper paraphrase. Following the source's words too closely can create copyright problems, so it is not permitted here; see Close paraphrasing. (There is a college-level introduction to paraphrase, with examples, hosted by the Online Writing Lab of Purdue.) Even when using your own words, you are still, however, asked to cite your sources to verify information and to demonstrate that the content is not original research.
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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Fiddle  Faddle  22:52, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Reply to your Articles for Creation Help Desk question
Hello, Roland Werner! I'm Timtrent. I have replied to your question about a submission at the WikiProject Articles for Creation Help Desk. Fiddle  Faddle  23:46, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Draft:Oswald Werner
Hello Roland! User Timtrent (Fiddle Faddle) has asked me to offer you some assistance with the draft you have started on Oswald Werner. This is because we believe Oswald meets Wikipedia's notability requirements, but the way you have written it does not fit with the style of an encyclopedia or Wikipedia's writing policies. I can help you navigate these problems, if you would like, so that you may write an accurate biographical article about Oswald that still complies with Wikipedia's guidelines? You may wish to view my comments to Timtrent's request for me to help you at my talk page, as they will explain what I have do so far, and why I have done them. If you wish to reply, you can just leave your reply here, on this page. Bellerophon talk to me 11:04, 1 November 2014 (UTC)


 * As I explained at the Articles for Creation Help Desk, the copied and pasted element was likely to be removed by another editor. has done this, and with good will. He explained on his own talk page that writing it from scratch is going to be substantially easier than modifying what is present, and so it will be.
 * Roland, I am sure from all you have written that you love and honour your brother. This is precisely as it should be. I wish I had a brother like you. Love and honour make difficult bedfellows when writing an article for an encyclopaedia. It is important not to let either enter the article, because, while it shows your great esteem for him, it cannot do him justice. What we need is "Dull-but-Worthy" stuff, material that will stand for all time, long after he, you and I are dead. It is very difficult for a family member to wrote about another in the correct tone. I am, however, sure you are up to the task. The outcome depends on how well you listen to, accept and implement advice.
 * Write about Ossy as if he is a total stranger to you, and say only what the references say about him. Fiddle   Faddle  12:34, 1 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Roland, please listen to us about the piece you want to copy to introduce Ossy. The piece is excellent for a magazine, of for a eulogy, a testimonial or a tribute. It fails as a piece for WIkipedia because it is too lovely, too pleasant, too praising. All that will happen if you use it is that reviewers will see the piece as promotional and will reject it. You gain nothing by getting a licence to use it. What we need is a simple, and dull piece of text, with fact after fact and zero praise. Please write that text
 * Please do not abandon this project. Instead please work with us. is offering to provide help and guidance, but will not write this for you. I am offering the same, though am less skilled at helping folk.  Fiddle   Faddle  23:58, 2 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Roland. Basically... What Tim said... The piece on your brother by Pixten is great as a laudatory, but really not suitable for Wikipedia. Even if you get permission to reuse it, the community would not accept such a writing style, and the entire article may be deleted no sooner than it's published because of excessively promotional tone. The advice you were given to seek permission to reuse the text was not relevant advice in the circumstances I'm afraid. If you feel you cannot rewrite the draft, you could add the title to Requested Articles, meaning that someone else may decide to have a go at writing it. But there is no way of knowing if or when that would happen. Bellerophon talk to me 09:10, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Draft:Oswald Werner concern
Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Oswald Werner, a page you created, has not been edited in 6 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it.

You may request Userfication of the content if it meets requirements.

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Thank you for your attention. HasteurBot (talk) 01:37, 17 December 2015 (UTC)