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Speedy deletion nomination of James ishmail
Hello RomfordReject,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged James ishmail for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks, Danrok (talk) 19:17, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Draft pages
Hi there. I saw your query at Talk:James Ishmail. To write drafts click on the tab at the top of any Wikipedia page that says "My sandbox", write something and click save. You can then use the page to work on articles before moving them into article space. If you can't find the tab you can also click on User:RomfordReject/sandbox. It's really important to write your articles in draft space to make sure you have everything in place before you launch them. All articles about living people must have at least one reference, otherwise they will be deleted after 8 days. There's more information about this policy at Proposed deletion of biographies of living people. Don't worry about this article, I've added some references for you. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 06:49, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Photos (and thank you!)
Thank you for the barnstar. You're very kind! Now the photo... Wikipedia does not allow the use of images of living people unless written permission from the copyright owner has been provided to release it under a free license. Under this arrangement the holder (who would be credited) retains the copyright of the work, but grants permission to others to freely use and publish the image, even for commercial purposes. See Requesting copyright permission for more on this. Note that this process is fairly complicated and must be followed to the letter, or the image will be deleted. If you took the photograph yourself and it has never been published before, you can, of course, upload it stating that you took the photo and are releasing it under a free license. Remember that the copyright of an image is almost invariably held by the actual photographer, not the subject of the photograph, or the owner of a copy of the photograph. If you took the picture, but it has already been published elsewhere, then you have to follow the procedure at Donating copyrighted materials. I also notice you added, Template:COI to the article you created. I'm going to remove it because the article is quite neutral and doesn't appear to show any evidence of your conflict of interest in the actual text. However, it is appropriate, in fact a very good idea to declare this conflict of interest on Talk:James Ishmail. Hope that helps. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:23, 29 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Re your question about the permissions email,... You send an email to the photographer requesting permission. You should specify which picture and where it appears on the web, as well as the article you wish to use it in. He should then send an email back to you granting permission using Declaration of consent for all enquiries. The email he sends must come from an email address that we can recognize. For instance, if he is releasing a website or images from a website, his email address must be associated with the website or listed on the contact page of the website. If he is releasing a work that is not available online, he may be required to provide proof of his identity. Then you forward both your original email to him and his consent email to the address here. Frankly, it's easier to just take a photo of the player yourself, but that may not be possible.
 * Now to contact me on my talk page, just click on the (talk) link in my signature. That will take you to my talk page—User talk:Voceditenore. Then you can add a message, either in the section where your previous message was, or click the "New Section" tab at the top of the talk page. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 09:04, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

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Your user page
Hi, me again. It looks like another user had put an article draft on your user page, posssibly without your consent. The subject matter seems way out of the area you're edting in. I have removed it, most importantly because it contains a copyright violation from this website, but also because editors should not use other editors' user pages without their consent. I am assuming you are not the same person as User:MaurisGriffin, the one who edited your page. If you are the same person, you need to read Wikipedia's policy on using alternate accounts. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 09:15, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Just to let you know, I've asked for advice from administrators about this. The discussion is at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:53, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
 * As I don't think that you're responsible for the activities of the other accounts mentioned at that ANI discussion, I have (a) deleted your userpage so you can start afresh if you want to without having a copyvio in the page history and (b) blocked the other accounts. Regards, and best wishes, BencherliteTalk 11:08, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for all your advice, but I only understand 10% of it. This is way too complicated for me. I enjoy doing it though, but there is only one me, I have no other user accounts. RomfordReject (talk) 14:16, 1 October 2012 (UTC)


 * OK, in simple terms: (1) someone else put a load of crap on your user page (2) I deleted it (3) the person who did so has been blocked (4) the person who did so was using Wikipedia for copyright violations and / or advertising, and using multiple accounts on Wikipedia to do so (5) all the multiple accounts that were pulling this stunt have now been blocked, as far as we know (6) nobody thinks that any blame attaches to you - your user page was hijacked! Carry on as you were. BencherliteTalk 14:19, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! You have to talk to me as if I am a six year old, I really am new to all this computer malarkey. Slowly getting the hang of it and polishing up the Romford F.C. page. Appreciate all the help. RomfordReject (talk) 14:22, 1 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I had mentally flagged this account as a possible sockpuppet too, but I also came to the conclusion that you were probably an innocent victim. I was going to check with you today, but someone beat me to it. Drop me a line if you have any questions or need help. Meters (talk) 15:27, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of James Ishmail


The article James Ishmail has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Non-notable amateur footballer

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion.  Del ♉ sion 23  (talk)  22:19, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Why can't people just leave it? I have seen player profiles on here for players at much lower teams. Just leave it be. RomfordReject (talk) 05:37, 3 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi RomfordReject. I just wanted to explain what that "Proposed deletion" notice means. It means that another editor doesn't think that James Ishmail currently passes Wikipedia's notability criteria for a stand-alone article. For a footballer, this would either mean evidence of significant, in-depth, wide-spread, independent coverage devoted to him (called GNG or General Notability Guideline) Or he must have either:


 * 1) represented his country in a FIFA sanctioned senior international match (including the Olympics)
 * 2) appeared in a fully professional league, See a list of fully professional leagues kept by WikiProject Football.
 * Romford FC doesn't play in a fully professional league, and as of now, the article isn't showing enough references that support the General Notability Guideline for Ishmail.
 * If the "Proposed deletion notice" remains without disagreement for 8 days, the article will be deleted. Any editor (including you) can disagree by removing the notice from the article. However, if you do, the article might be taken to a deletion discussion (called an AfD). Unfortunately, as the article stands now I don't think it would survive a deletion discussion. Football isn't my area at all. I write about opera, but you can get advice from experienced editors in the field at WikiProject Football. You can read more about the notability guidelines at Notability (sports). Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:23, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

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Will somebody PLEASE help me, I just wish to carry on editing the Romford FC page. Why am I being treated like this?

RomfordReject (talk) 11:39, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

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Minor edits
Hello and thank you for your contributions. I noticed that most if not all of your edits are marked as 'minor'. Please mark your edits as "minor" only if they are minor edits. In accordance with Help:Minor edit, a minor edit is one that the editor believes requires no review and could never be the subject of a dispute. For example, the addition of the years to Harry Obeney would not be considered a minor edit (and would also normally require a WP:RS). Minor edits consist of things such as typographical corrections, formatting changes or rearrangement of text without modification of content. Additionally, the reversion of clear-cut vandalism and test edits may be labeled "minor". In addition please remember to complete the edit summary field at the base of the edit window or when prompted on saving using the visual editor. This is important so that other editors can see what has been changed and the reasons why. Thank you. Happy editing. Eagleash (talk) 09:55, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Couple of tips
Hello RomfordReject. Thanks for your edits on former Romford players. A couple of tips for you: Also, are the stats you are adding league appearances only, or totals including cups? We are only meant to list league appearances in the infobox. Cheers. Number  5  7  10:52, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) When adding the dates played to an infobox, please use an endash (–) rather than a hyphen – i.e. 1964–1965 not 1964-1965
 * 2) Make sure the players are in Category:Romford F.C. players

All appearances and goals are for league games RomfordReject (talk)

Oh and I don't know the difference between an endash and a hypehn, sorry RomfordReject (talk)


 * If I may be bold and jump in. A hyphen will be the standard one used on the keyboard (-) and an endash (–) can be added by clicking the specific button in the editing tools underneath the window when you are editing a page. It is the first item on the horizontal list of punctuation items located just above the edit summary box. Hope this helps. Kosack (talk) 10:31, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Still don't get it! In the edit box there are TWO different endash/hypons and also a long dash.....which one is the endash. Is it –, — or − RomfordReject (talk)


 * The furthest one on the left is the one you want. That will produce –. Kosack (talk) 11:12, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

June 2016
Hello, I'm Egghead06. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Malcolm Allison, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Egghead06 (talk) 08:38, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Trevor Ford
Hi, I noticed you added some stats for his spell with Romford. I was wondering if you had any sources to provide some information on his spell there that you could use to expand on it. His later career doesn't seem to be particularly well documented and some extra info on this would be very helpful. Thanks. Kosack (talk) 09:20, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

All info taken from a booklet Romford Football Club Facts & Figures and from John Haley, author of the Romford Football Club volumes 1-3 (4 coming out soon) RomfordReject (talk) 09:30, 12 June 2016 (UTC) RomfordReject


 * Hi, yeah I was just wondering if they had any further information other than just the stats. His spell there is only a brief sentence in the article which is disappointing but that's great even if it's just the stats. I've had no luck myself. Thanks. Kosack (talk) 09:36, 12 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Quick afterthought, does your source say if he played in any cup matches during his time there? I can add it to his stats table then as well. Thanks. Kosack (talk) 09:42, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

I can find out but am waiting until the book is published later in the year. Then all will be revealed. The figures I have for him are just appearances and goals in the Southern League RomfordReject (talk)


 * Ok, that's great. I'll add his league stats into the table when I get the chance. I'll leave the cup stats with a question mark like a couple of his other seasons. When you find out the other stats in the new book, feel free to add them in or send me a message if you want a hand. Thanks very much. Kosack (talk) 10:21, 12 June 2016 (UTC)