User talk:Ron Thompson

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Edits to October 17
Hi Ron. I just wanted to explain why your addition of the recording of "I Want To Hold Your Hand" (which is currently a red link btw, you want the double quotes outside of the brackets) to October 17 keeps getting reverted. Song recordings are generally considered non-notable. For one thing they are very common; The Beatles recorded hundreds of songs, and once you open the door to The Beatles why not all the other bands out there? Also who is to say if the recording is more important than the first release, or even the first live performance? If the notability guidelines (which are here) were expanded to the point where the recording of "I Want To Hold Your Hand" is considered notable these pages would be swamped with song recordings and fights over which band is more notable than the other. Also be careful using the vandalism word in edit summaries. Neither of the editors that reverted your addition (I was one of them) have any intention of vandalizing these pages, and were acting in good faith. In these situations the best thing to do is take it to the article's talk page and ask why you are being reverted. Hope this makes sense. Cheers. Winston365 (talk) 04:02, 20 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi Winston,
 * It's certainly reasonable to opt for those other dates as well. I see that the February 9th appearance is listed on that date, though December 17th is not.
 * In my judgment October 17th has an independent significance. What we hear today is what they recorded on that day. And by February 9th two other "British Invasion" acts had already entered the Billboard Hot 100 charts, Dusty Springfield and the Dave Clark Five.
 * But I understand that you have guidelines.
 * I did not understand that the changes were made by a site official, which is why I said they were vandalized.
 * Thank you for your responses.


 * Hi Ron. I removed some extra whitespace from your comment. Note that adding leading spaces doesn't do what one would expect, instead of indenting text it surrounds it in a box

like this
 * which is rarely what you want. Also this box doesn't automatically wrap text, so any long lines go past the end of the window. To indent text add one or more leading colons instead. See Help:Using talk pages, and also remember to sign your posts with four tildes (~) . Also note that I am not an official in any capacity. I'm just a regular editor like yourself. Even if I were an Administrator it would have no bearing on this issue. Admins are just as bound by guidelines and policy as any other editors. If you really want to champion the case that this entry should be added to October 17 then the next step would be to bring it up on the article's talk page. From my experience with these pages I suspect the idea is unlikely to get much traction, but you can always try. About the vandalism thing, don't worry about it, nobody was offended. You should always assume good faith though, both with experienced editors, and especially with new editors. Cheers. Winston365 (talk) 00:48, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

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