User talk:RonaldWeathersby

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Tennessee Tribune
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Speedy deletion nomination of Tennessee Tribune


A tag has been placed on Tennessee Tribune requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article or image appears to be a clear copyright infringement. This article or image appears to be a direct copy from http://tntribune.com/about/. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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August 2014
Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from a page you have created yourself. If you believe the page should not be deleted, you may contest the deletion by clicking on the button that says: Contest this speedy deletion and appears inside the speedy deletion notice. This will allow you to make your case on the article's talk page. Administrators will consider your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. Thank you. NickGibson3900 - Talk - Sign my Guestbook 07:48, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Copyvio and promotion
I had to delete the page because it was still very substantially taken word for word from the official website. We cannot accept copyrighted material as it violates copyright law. Close paraphrasing of the source material is still considered to be a copyright violation. The only time we can use it is if the person owning the material were to file an WP:ORTS ticket giving up all rights to the content as fair use, but even then there are still quite a few issues with using copyrighted text, which leads to the second issue: the page was very, very promotional in tone. The thing is, even if copyrighted text is given up as fair use, the content is almost always written in a tone that is meant to promote the subject in question. You'd have to essentially re-write the entire article as a whole in order to remove the promotional prose to fit our WP:NPOV guidelines. I do see where you tried to re-write it, but in the end the article was still too promotional to remain on Wikipedia and still closely paraphrased the source material. An example of something that was both extremely promotional and closely paraphrased from the original source would be the sentence "The paper seeks to speak to the needs and interest of its readers with language and perspective, which effectively reflects their way of life."

Now the other thing that needs addressing is that even without the problems of copyvio and promotion, there is still the issue of notability. Newspapers are not automatically notable and you would still have to show that the paper has received coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the Tribune itself. Longevity isn't something that would give notability, although it can help raise the chances that the newspaper was covered. The other big issue is that notability is not inherited by the paper having covered notable events or had notable people associated with it. Now an example of what can be used as a reliable source would be this book, which discusses the paper. The book is a scholarly source, as it is written by a university press, and would count towards notability. We'd need more than one source, of course, but this is a good example of what we can use. Things to be careful about is that you don't use things that only mention the newspaper in passing. I see where it's listed in a few tour guide books, which are usually not accepted as a reliable source by many editors. Another example of an unusable source would be this book, where it's just mentioned in passing in relation to someone else that the paper covered. Something else that you need to be careful of are self-published sources (WP:SPS) like this one. The problem with SPS is that we cannot verify the content as far as editorial oversight goes. It's kind of frustrating since in many cases I've seen instances where I know the content is correct, but I can't use it because it's unverified. A good rule of thumb is to avoid blogs and any books published through the self-published markets like Lulu, Smashwords, or CreateSpace.

Hopefully this helps explain the deletion. I know it's going to be difficult finding the sources- that's why we don't have articles on many of the newspapers out there. It's unlikely that other papers are going to cover the competition unless the competition is extremely well known and notable (ala LA Times), but unfortunately we do still have to have some form of coverage in reliable sources. In any case, I'd recommend starting a page in your userspace first at say, User:RonaldWeathersby/Tennessee Tribune, as this will allow you more time to write the article in your own words. The only times we usually delete articles in the WP:USERSPACE is if the article is a copyright violation, extremely promotional, or the article has been untouched for over 6 months. There are exceptions to that, but it's normally uncommon for userspace copies to get deleted. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   08:51, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh! And I'd also recommend that you run the article through WP:AfC or have another editor take a look at it before submitting it to the mainspace, as you have a conflict of interest (WP:COI). Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   08:54, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Another thing I recommend is that you introduce yourself at the WP:TEAHOUSE. It's a page for new editors and you can almost always find someone to help you as far as showing the basics of editing, sources, and whatnot. WikiProject Tennessee would also be a good place to start, since it's a page devoted to the state itself. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   08:59, 13 August 2014 (UTC)