User talk:Ronaldprince

Please do not remove the external links from the article Rorschach inkblot test. If you feel that the links should not be included, please join the discussion on the article's talk page, at Talk:Rorschach inkblot test and try to find a consensus there. A ecis Brievenbus 21:25, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

January 2008
Hi, the recent edit you made to Rorschach inkblot test has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thanks. · AndonicO  Hail!  21:26, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Rorschach
I am a practicing psychologist, and I have edited the Rorschach article for a couple of years. Although I appreciate your efforts to remove the Rorschach image and links to the images, you are fighting a losing battle and likely to make things worse if you continue. I also am opposed to display of the image for obvious reasons, and I and others have fought this issue for a long time. Read the Talk page, including the archives, for details. But here are the facts: The images are no longer copyrighted. The copyrights expired 70 years after H. Rorschach's death. The test as it is printed on the cards is trademarked by the publisher, Hogrefe & Huber, but the images themselves have no current copyright. We have had several edit wars over this issue, and we even pulled Hogrefe & Huber into the fray, all to no avail. After lengthy and heated debate, we finally achieved a compromise in which the image would be available if a reader chooses to look at it, with a statement indicating that it could invalidate the test if the reader took it. Thus, we have the current situation in which the reader can click a link to see the image on Card I. External links to all of the images are not a violation of copyright or Wikipedia policy. Wikipedia does not have to abide by the ethical principle of APA. APA's principles have no legal effect except with psychologists. I even had to fight to get the statement included with the external link to the images that the website has inaccurate information.

So those are the facts. You can check with any publisher involved with the Rorschach if you wish. But your removing the image and the links will get you nowhere, and if you do it repeatedly you can be blocked from editing. And for what it's worth, here's a little more advice based on a long and difficult series of experiences in my editing of the article. If you continue to try to fight those who wish for the image and the link to stay, it likely will flare up into another edit war and the image may get placed back at the top of the page without the optional link to view it. That has happened before. And if edit warring continues, an administrator will protect the page from any further edits, possibly with the image displayed. I'm not telling you what to do. I'm just sharing my experiences in an attempt to do what is best for the article. Ward3001 (talk) 21:37, 23 January 2008 (UTC)