User talk:Ronherry/Archives/2023/October

List of Billboard Hot 100 number ones of 2023 - See also
I've left a note on the talk page of that article concerning something I've been watching for a while now, seeing the entry "2023 in American music" moved around numerous times in the See also section. I don't know which one is right and I want the problem resolved. This has been a slow-paced edit war between you and a variety of IP addresses on this. MPFitz1968 (talk) 07:26, 3 October 2023 (UTC)


 * The variety of IPs being the same person I assume.  ℛonherry  ☘  12:09, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Talk:The_Storm_Before_the_Calm
Hi Ron. Feel free to comment if you like to. 183.171.122.207 (talk) 08:47, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Travis Kelce
Thanks for adding that stuff back. I sensed an edit war coming from that user and I backed out before it escalated. Hopefully seeing another editor add the information back gets that editor to back off because as I said on the talk page you made good points that have led to me changing my mind on the inclusion of that content. I think they have a grudge against the page and I have my theories as to why based on their behavior and things they've said but that's not a discussion for Wikipedia because of this.-- Rockchalk 717 16:37, 6 October 2023 (UTC)


 * No probs, you're welcome.  ℛonherry  ☘  16:26, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Concert Film distribution deals with AMC.
Hello. I understand you are seemingly a fan of Taylor Swift, and adamantly want her to be mentioned in the prose of all subsequent concert films released in collaboration with AMC, but Variety is inaccurate in its' statement that her deal is unprecedented, in that Chance The Rapper brokered an earlier exclusive deal in 2021 with AMC at the outset of the pandemic. She is not the first, and should not be recognized as such, Variety mention or not. I do not want to go back and forth with you, but I will again modify the affected pages if I need to.

What makes this interesting is the fact Variety itself announced the 2021 AMC deal: https://variety.com/2021/music/news/chance-the-rapper-amc-theatres-release-concert-film-1234968989/

Bloomberg also explored the business behind the deal, and the Chicago Sun-Times did a more thorough analysis on the background of the deal at the time also mentioning the unprecedented nature of Chance The Rapper's AMC deal in 2021:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-20/chance-the-rapper-to-bring-secret-concert-to-the-big-screen https://chicago.suntimes.com/movies-and-tv/2021/5/14/22434299/chance-the-rapper-magnificent-coloring-world-concert-film-amc-river-east-house-of-kicks-bannockburn

Enjoy your week, and do not hesitate to send me a message if need be. Trainsskyscrapers (talk) 08:02, 10 October 2023 (UTC)


 * This is textbook POV pushing and WP:SYNTH. The Variety source discussing Renaissance film does NOT mention Chance, it only mentions Swift. You're adding sources older than 2022 to push your belief that Chance started this, but NONE of the sources you cited claim so. There are no perennial sources from 2023 that claim Chance is the precedent for Swift and Beyoncé. Regards.  ℛonherry  ☘  08:33, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
 * "She is not the first, and should not be recognized as such, Variety mention or not." No, Wikipedia operates purely on what the reliable sources state and does not care about whether you believe it or not. "but I will again modify the affected pages if I need to" sounds like you WANT to edit-war and disrupt the article, so you'll be reported at the Administrator's Noticeboard for disruptive edits, which may lead to you losing your editing privilege. Regards.  ℛonherry  ☘  08:36, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Old source or not, he was seemingly the first to partner with AMC.
 * The Variety source I posted, from May 7, 2021, does claim that he started this:
 * "Directed by Jake Schreier and produced by Chance’s House of Kicks and Park Pictures, “Magnificent Coloring World” marks the first time an individual recording artist has distributed a film through AMC."
 * Is there an issue with the source (when you have used a newer article from the SAME publication to paint a different picture, mind you)? Trainsskyscrapers (talk) 19:46, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
 * And? What about the sources in 2023? What talking about the sources that are actually about the subject of the article you're trying to add it into? Your assumption that Chance is the precedent to Beyonce's Renaissance film is not supported by any source and hence is just a false and misleading factoid. Please go through WP:SOURCE to understand how sources and citations actually work. Regards.  ℛonherry  ☘  01:37, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, read WP:SYNTH, which states "Do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any source". Your argument is a classic case of SYNTH.  ℛonherry  ☘  01:39, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay. So what you're saying here is you would be absolutely fine with a brand new sentence discussing the origins of an AMC deal with its own citation before your sentence to further confirm that no synthesis between the two ideas has occurred? That can be arranged, as both statements are true. Chance The Rapper opened up a door that did not exist before as he was searching for a new forum in 2021 to show his 2017 concert film (and AMC was reeling post-covid with theatres but nothing to show)... and then Taylor came in 2023 for more extensive in-house AMC marketing and negotiation with other theatre chains involved in her distribution deal, something Beyonce also followed. Does that sound better to you? Trainsskyscrapers (talk) 22:16, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Taylor Swift: The Eras Tour
RoySmith (talk) 00:03, 13 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Yes satin sent them Annea72 (talk) 02:13, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Peace (Taylor Swift song)
Hey, hope your having a good day! I was wondering if I can get permission to fully expand Peace (Taylor Swift song) and promote it to GA? I would really appreciate it. Gained (talk) 14:32, 20 October 2023 (UTC)