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UK Chemical Reaction Hazards Forum
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Conflict of interest guidelines
Hi. Since you profess to be the webmaster of the website for UK Chemical Reaction Hazards Forum, then it seems fairly clear you have a connection to the subject. :) I wanted to let you know about some of the pitfalls of editing an article on a subject to which you are closely connected and also let you know how to avoid them. Basically, Wikipedia's contributors are advised to avoid or exercise great caution when editing or creating articles related to us, our organizations or its competitors, as well as their projects and products. We need to be particularly careful in those cases to abide by the neutrality policy and to avoid including information we may know to be true but can not verify to reliable, published sources. In cases where involvement exists, we need to be particularly careful to comply with our verifiability policy. Wikipedia's articles should in most cases be based on reliable, published sources that are independent of their subjects, but this is particularly important where assertions within articles seem designed to promote their subjects. Our conflict of interest guidelines can be found here. We also have a FAQ at FAQ/Organization.

With respect to this particular article, I have removed a few phrases or sentences that seem promotional, as these do need independent sourcing to verify. For example: "Some smaller companies would like to join...." We need independent verification of that. We also need independent verification that the body is "highly experienced." I have also tagged the opening sentence "vague", because it includes a reference that is not explained. "...with the aim of preventing a similar (and maybe more serious or even major) chemical incident elsewhere." Similar to or more serious than what? Elsewhere from where? This is a bit lacking in context. :)

This one may never come up again, but based on your note on the article's talk page I'll presume you're unfamiliar: we do have a process in place whereby copyright holders of previously published information may release it to Wikipedia. You can read more about it at Donating copyrighted materials. (We also have a process for requesting permission, when we aren't the copyright holders, at Requesting copyright permission.) Quite often, of course, material needs to be revised anyway in order to comply with our various guidelines and policies, but in case you ever wanted to donate material again I thought I'd point out how.

You've been registered for some time, but you were never officially greeted, so allow me to welcome you to Wikipedia. :) I made good use of the "welcome spam" that was given to me when I got here, but you may not need it so I won't clutter your page with it. If you'd like to see what it looks like, though, it's visible at Template:W-graphical. It would be gracing the top of your page if I'd gotten here last March. :)

Happy editing. Feel free to drop me a line at my talk page if I can be of any assistance to you in any way. And, of course, we do have a help desk manned by volunteers. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:20, 2 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Dear Moonriddengirl, thank you for your comments. I did try to be as neutral as possible, knowing the policies, but it's not that easy.  I'll have a re-think on how best to improve the page (and still be neutral) - once the holidays are over I will ask the other 14 members to have a look and make comments, that might generate some better text for the page.Ronhjones (talk) 15:06, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Flagged Revs
Hi,

I noticed you voted oppose in the flag revs straw pole and would like to ask if you would mind adding User:Promethean/No to your user or talk page to make your position clear to people who visit your page :) - Thanks to Neurolysis for the template  « l | Ψrometheăn ™ | l »   (talk) 06:53, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Welcome to UK Waterways
Hi Ron. Thanks for your articles on waterways in the UK. It's nice to have you on board. All our articles have a   on their talk pages. This allows us to find and grade them, so don't forget to add it to your new articles on UK canals and rivers. You don't need to worry about adding other parameters to the template - someone else can do that. In any case, its probably better for someone else to grade for importance and quality. Also, don't forget to add England (or Wales, Scotland, etc) in the location in the first sentence of the article. Most readers are overseas. Best regards. Oosoom Talk 20:06, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks Oosoom, I'm glad you like the maps. It took me a while to find the best way to make them - I eventually settled for using Excel (with alternating columns of data and vertical bars), a bit of an odd use for it, but it's works reasonably (when done, I copy and "paste special" into Word as unformatted text, then use Word to remove all the tab characters in one go - then paste the result into my Sandbox). I can also check the spelling in Excel (and save the good names into the dictionary - I do have a tendency to do the odd two letter swap e.g uSRT instead of uSTR...  Dyslexia rules KO :-).  The Stort Navigation one really taxed the grey cells - I've been up and down it for 15 yrs (1989 to 2004), and already started to forget where some of the weirs were. Ronhjones (talk) 23:06, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Stort Navigation map
Thanks for your comments. I have left a response with your note. Bob1960evens (talk) 10:21, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

UBC Template
Thanks a lot! I'd pretty much given up on it ;), TastyCakes (talk) 15:45, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Lithium ion battery
Hey Ron, the recent additions to the external links don't really seem to be spam- the website is a free of charge information site. It does mention in a couple of places the company that supplies it, but doesn't seem at all promotional.

I was going to revert it too but decided that it wasn't spam, so left it alone. It's no big deal either way- I'm not a fan of external links myself. Cheers, Freestyle-69 (talk) 23:36, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Bottom of http://www.mpoweruk.com/how.htm - "Ask us for a quotation". The site may be free, but they are consultants. - "The information on this site was made available by Woodbank Communications an independent, technology consulting company".  Ticks the boxes, I think. Ronhjones (talk) 23:43, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Hoi Ron, please raise the warning level from 1 up to 4, in this case the account is a single purpose account for spamming, which will be blocked on request. cheers Mion (talk) 00:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * (Normally all the steps 1,2,3 and then 4) but that is communcation to the user, this is a clear cut case, all the steps are more important if its about shared IP's (school).cheers. Mion (talk) 00:14, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I saw one spam link on a watched page, then checked the user's recent edits on other pages. I couldn't decide whether to go 2..3..4 all in one fell swoop, or at least give the user a chance to at least read the warnings and not repeat the exercise.  I plumped for the latter and set them all to level 2 - there was already a level 1, and all those pages are now watched.  We'll see what happens in future...  Ronhjones (talk) 00:29, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Totally fine with me. cheers Mion (talk) 00:35, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * "Now I see", said the blind man. All good, thanks. Freestyle-69 (talk) 01:09, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Note about Lee Navigation map
Ron, thanks for leaving the note. I was indeed thinking of doing a map for the River Lee, as there is a request for one, and had spotted that the River Lee Navigation did not have one, even though there was no request for one. I have steadily worked my way through the Waterways pages needing routemaps. There were about 140 when I started. I do not have a source for the Irish ones, so have not attempted them (yet?). It is a tricky balance to know what to put in and what not to, when you are writing an encyclopedia, rather than a cruising guide. I tend to omit minor bridges unless the waterway is very small, or they are specifically mentioned in the text, and concentrate on major road and rail crossings as well as the locks. Keep up the good work. Bob1960evens (talk) 19:56, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Bob. I did leave in the minor bridges on the Stort (as there are so few bridges), however it's looks like I might have to trim the Lee of some of them. Once I've sorted out the intricate lakes and reservoirs and minor cuts... it's quite a wet valley! Plan it to take it down to the Thames (via Bow Locks), leaving out most of Bow Back Rivers - probably need a map to themselves. FWIW I tend to have Streetmap and Google earth open - gives me good view to remember where the "bits" go - Sadly, Streetmap doesn't do Ireland Ronhjones (talk) 20:23, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I also work with Streetmap and Google maps, plus I have all the Nicholson Guides, so the open canals are generally ok. It's the closed ones where you have to be a bit more inventive for sources. Bob1960evens (talk) 20:50, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Well done with the Lee Navigation map. If you are interested, I created a uAROAD and uHAROAD, to fill in the gaps on features such as Bleak Hall Bridge. I have never put them on the icons template, although I have used them in a number of places. Bob1960evens (talk) 23:05, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Lee Template Map
Nice work on that template - what did you use to edit it? There's a couple more weirs I'd like to add, but it requires some resizes? Tell me it isn't all manual work? :) Regards, Jamsta (talk) 11:19, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * It's set up as 2 Excel spreadsheets (one for header, and one for bulk) - columns of data with columns of "|" between. I then do "Select All" and Copy - "Paste Special" into Word as unformatted text, then do "search and replace" for tab (^t) [all cells boundaries get a tab] and replace with nothing, then select all and copy, and paste into Wiki window. Easy when you have the software Ronhjones (talk) 12:57, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * If you want a copy of the spreadsheet then let me know, and I'll put it on the web for download. Ronhjones (talk) 19:23, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Tunnel Icons
Hi Ron. I notice you have added several tunnel-under-road icons. I wondered if they might look better if the tunnel was drawn at the bottom, rather than over the top of the road? It is just a matter of changing the order of drawing things. I'll leave you to decide. Bob1960evens (talk) 23:14, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * You are correct. I could have sworn that utKRZu was "blue on top" - and if I look at the small icon on the legend page it appears to be so - but it's an illusion, when I just looked at the full size version (I didn't do that before) - then the railway is on top. I'll have to put it down to the graphics card trying to show the small blue blob next to the red line and somehow making it bigger than it really is, so it doesn't get lost. So yes, I will pull then into Inkscape and change the order. Ronhjones (talk) 00:16, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Duke's Cut
"There's also a lock on the Duke's Cut, but no room to show it" - it is on the main navigable channel of the Thames immediately south of the junction with the arm of the Thames that the Duke's Cut connects to. Maproom (talk) 22:48, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Jane Griffiths
Just to say thanks for dealing with the vandalism/blanking on the article. That particular section has been deleted repeatedly - mostly by an IP address at the Council of Europe (which is where Jane is employed at present). A whois search for the IP address you gave the warning too is also based in France, so presumably the same person. Anyway keep up the good work. --Shakehandsman (talk) 22:40, 17 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the comment Ronhjones (talk) 22:41, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

February 2009
Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made: You may already know about them, but you might find Template messages/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit was inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. ''Try actually examining my edits before erroneously labeling as vandalism. I deleted the info because there's already a separate article for Boogeyman 3.'' Crotchety Old Man (talk) 23:16, 17 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but deleting large amounts of content and not supplying any reason in the edit summary would be a typical operation for a vandal, and raises awareness of that edit. Ronhjones (talk) 23:31, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Justin Higgins
Higgins is a fine, upstanding young man with a great track record. His page does not, I repeat, does not deserve to be deleted.

164.107.92.144 (talk) 00:52, 19 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Then the best way is to make your case on the appropriate talk page, rather than simply blanking data without explanation. Ronhjones (talk) 00:55, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

You may be interested in...
this discussion about images persisting in categories despite all efforts to empty them. The answer, I've been told, is that there was a categorised image redirect showing up in the category, but a technical flaw means that the usual "Redirected from (link)" message at the top of the page doesn't appear for images. Anyway, zapped and sorted now, I think. Regards, BencherliteTalk 16:08, 19 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the feedback. What a tangled web....! I think that is the first bug I have found here (I suppose there are others waiting to catch out out?). Anyway, you did get there in the end, and I have finished sorting out all the canal icons on commons. Ronhjones (talk) 19:33, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Pete's thing
Hi Ron,

Regarding So-so Transpo. I can see that you're based in the UK. I'm based in Ottawa. That's what we call the bus service around here. Could you please return the comments to their original? Thanks! Pete. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.246.178.209 (talk) 22:16, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * If you wish to make derogatory statements like "It is known throughout the city as an efficient method of transportation, but with extremely poor customer service. There are frequent reports of drivers refusing to make eye contact and answering questions with exasperation or sarcasm. Subsequently the service has been dubbed So-So Transpo" then they must be supported by third party references - such as articles in your local newspapers. Making such statements could let Wikipedia open to legal action. Ronhjones (talk) 22:22, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

ANTM cycle 12 bad revert
Be careful with your reverts. You accidently reverted a good edit to one that was vandalism, marking the good edit as vandalism. -Misty Willows (talk) 09:11, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but it did look like vandalism, as it was a deletion of a fairly large amount of neatly formatted table, with no edit explanation, and no discussion on the talk page as to why it should be deleted. Ronhjones (talk) 16:45, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Fluorenylmethyloxycarbonyl chloride
Hope you don't mind a cheeky request... You quoted "J. Jones, Amino Acid and Peptide Synthesis, 2nd edn., Oxford University Press, 2002." in this page. Would you know if there is a synthesis of Fluorenylmethyloxycarbonyl chloride in that book? It would save me the time of having to get a loan out of the BL, and then probably only to find that it uses bought in FMOC-Cl! Ronhjones (talk) 23:07, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi there, I don't mind the cheeky request at all. I had a look at the book (hardly a difficult manoeuvre as it is still next to my computer) and it doesn't go into the synthesis of Fmoc I'm afraid.  I have a paper that might be of some use to you, I haven’t read it yet but I think i'ts the first mention of the Fmoc group in the literature.  The reference is "L. A. Carpino and G. Y. Han, Journal of Organic Chemistry, 1972, 37, 3404-&." which can be found here if you have access to the Web of Science.  If you can't find the paper or don't have access drop me another message and I'll take a look at it and see if they report the synthesis.  I hope that was of some help to you! -Noosentaal ·talk· 15:13, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info - I checked JOC (we have an ACS subscrition) it has the data to make the FMOC-Cl from the alcohol with (of course) phosgene! - may have to change that, not the easist of chemicals to get hold of nowdays. Ronhjones (talk) 17:32, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Excellent, glad I could be of some help to you! Just out of curiosity, why are you trying to make it?  Its a pretty standard protecting group, I wouldn't have thought it would be that expensive to buy in and would certainly be a lot easier! -Noosentaal ·talk· 12:22, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * You didn't notice where I worked then on my user page... I work for Alfa Aesar (merge of Alfa, Aesar, Avocado, and Lancaster synthesis).  Buy? From Aldrich - our main competitor? We try not to. Ronhjones (talk) 20:40, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * You're right, I didn't look at your user page, that makes a little more sense! Good luck making Fmoc! Let me know how you get on! If you find out anything interesting then don't forget to update the Fmoc page! -Noosentaal ·talk· 12:36, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Notes about Robot searches
Hello there Sorry about not leaving a note on the edit summary about removing some content. The robot searches for Canadian road articles, and a person must manually remove false positives. The robot works fairly well, however some articles do get added to the list which are not about Canadian roads, or are Canadian articles not about roads. I added a note to the talk page, if I miss another edit summary. Kind Regards SriMesh | talk  01:31, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
 * It is good to have such a robot looking for people deleting content willy nilly. I will try to remember to always fill in the edit field for especially removing content from Alex robot search article pages, as I am not creating yet another robotic search, so will be more careful.  Sorry for the hassle.SriMesh |  talk  20:33, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Editing Pages
I edited Sheffield to add a section called twin towns, but then i realised it was already covered in the Governance section, so i removed that chunk and put in a new section. It got deleted, and it said it was deleted by you! Howcome? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.144.22.147 (talk) 21:29, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The reasoning is covered in your talk page. Deleting a large chunk of data and not providing a reason why, will often cause a revert (it's a typical example of vandalization), if not by an editor, then by a background bot. Ronhjones (talk) 21:32, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

ACS journals and IP edits
Your edits to several ACS journals were to the point, but the IP editor had been adding material direct from the ACS journal web page. Also the ref you corrected was just a repeat of the web site in the infobox so it should be removed. Please help me to keep an eye on these articles. There seems to be a mass attempt by ACS to edit articles on their journals, with two other editors with accounts who seem to have learn about copyright, but this IP editor has not. -- Bduke   (Discussion)  22:26, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks for the heads up. I will make sure they stay in my watchlist.  Ron h jones (Talk) 22:29, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I am going to be off on wikibreak in just under two days. -- Bduke   (Discussion)  22:47, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I've added 216.143.112.177 to Vandal Fighter's Blacklist, so it shows up easily.  Ron h jones (Talk) 23:20, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Secure SMS Messaging Protocol
Please would you take a look at the revision history and also the rather insistent editor's talk page and history. I perceive vandalism, you may perceive something different. You have also reverted this editor's edits. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 23:33, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm a little confused. You reverted Shayan.mashatian edit, and so did I... Is there a difference?  I also notice Shayan.mashatian seems to have taken over from Shayanrm... A somewhat similar name?  Ron h jones (Talk) 23:44, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Similar enough for me to have made a sock puppet report. The user has turned quite nasty and has started issuing legal threats, too.  I can never understand why a polite request meets abusive behaviour, but I guess WP attracts all sorts.  I've lodged the legal threat at the admin noticeboard.  Previously I wanted you to take another look in case the other guy was actually correct!  I ran out of interest in dialogue there as soon as I was threatened.  As one does.  Fiddle Faddle (talk) 00:11, 8 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah, now I understand. I only noticed the name similarity when You asked me to have another look.  Ron h jones (Talk) 00:15, 8 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I suppose I was a tad obscure! I knew what I meant, you see! Fiddle Faddle (talk) 00:19, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Benzodiazepine dependence
My edit to Benzodiazepine dependence was not vandalism. It seems odd to me to mention that injecting Benzodiazepines can lead to HIV, injecting with a needle infected with HIV can lead to HIV. I think it should be reworded. It seems that that information applies to all drugs, not just Benzodiazepines. What do you think? Mwalla (talk) 22:55, 6 March 2009 (UTC)mwalla
 * The first past of the sentence "Benzodiazepines, and in particular temazepam, are sometimes used intravenously, which done incorrectly or done in an unsterile matter can lead to medical complications" (which I now see should be manner, not matter) qualifies the rest of the line. Any drug dependence could lead to use of shared syringes and needles, and all those examples are indeed possible, obviously some more than other, as some are bacteria, some are virii, and HIV (IIRC) is a prion. I agree that it probably applies all all drugs that are abused, where one is likely to be using non-sterile equipment  Ron h jones (Talk) 23:06, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. I would encourage the insertion of the shared syringes phrase. Mwalla (talk) 23:11, 6 March 2009 (UTC)mwalla

Reply
Yeah sorry, I was trying to revert it, because someone made it say "You fail". I guess I didn't revert it far back enough.
 * No problem, your change flagged up the problem.  Ron h jones (Talk) 00:13, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

do u spend ur whole life on wikipedia omfg roflmao! LOL


 * Only the odd hour here and there :-)  Ron h jones (Talk) 18:39, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

My Edit
The article currently on this Website about Änna Anderson" is as it stands heavily biased against her,it is also insulting in it's tone and facts have been distorted and portrayed inaccurately. Particularly from Peter Kurths book.

The article needs to be completely rewritten to present a fair portrayal of this womans life.

I will write one mysef and submit it for consideration

Theosophica (talk) 01:40, 10 March 2009 (UTC)


 * There were plenty of third party references that you removed, hence the revert. Some might not like the content, but WP is not censored WP:NOTCENSORED  Ron h jones (Talk) 01:47, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Exactly what is meant here by Third Party References does it mean source references such as books etc or references to people? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theosophica (talk • contribs) 02:00, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * It means what it says. Written references that are not written by the person named in the page - no self references.  See WP:V  Ron h jones (Talk) 02:05, 10 March 2009 (UTC

That is not very explanatory, All comments from Mrs Manahan came from Peter Kurths book.

Theosophica (talk) 02:21, 10 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Thats how we have to edit. If the data about a person is in a book/paper that is not written by that person then that makes it potentially suitable for WP. Not everyone will agree with it, but WP does not allow personal option to influence the content - it has to be written with a neutral point of view WP:NPOV, that prevents one from excluding material, just because you don't like it.  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:38, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I should also add that we don't own content we put in WP, we just give it away under a GFDL to WP, for others to edit/change, so long as they don't remove large amounts of referenced data, or put in untrue facts. I've edited some pages, only to find they are totally different 24h later - but the basic facts were still correct and all there, just rewritten in a different format. That's really the basis of a WP page - a verified list of facts written in a prose manner.  You may try to re-write the whole page and be successful, but someone else may then decide to add data to it, one cannot predict the final outcome of any page. When I'm in "Vandal Fighting mode", I don't read the whole page for content, and if I like it or not - I'm looking to see if unreal facts are added, text deleted (with references), and various other vandal actions. WP edits occur at the rate of about 1 per second, I just pick a page (often with a negative page size change) to have a quick look, and see if it looks like vandalism - if so, I would have a closer look, check one or two references (assuming they are on-line), and see if it agrees with the content, and make a decision to revert or leave.  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:56, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Statue Park edits
Copied from my talk page:

Please stop being stupid, both of you. Vandalism, if you bothered to read Vandalism and not just link to it, is a change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia. What I did—and you know it—was to remove travel guide material from the Statue Park article in an (apparently vain) attempt to improve its quality. Further, I was careful to write an edit summary explaining exactly why I did what I did. Therefore (1) it was constructive, (2) I do not need to use the sandbox and (3) I do not need to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia, although you might. Of course, you are perfectly free to revert any edit you do not agree with, but please leave off the bullshit notices on people's talk pages. 83.70.161.84 (talk) 09:12, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Prius
It's nice to see another self-righteous vandalism fighter here on wikipedia, however if you were familiar about the Prius topic you'd have known this has already been discussed and proven invalid. There is also already a controversy section.

Please refrain from wasting other people's time with these pointless wikipedia battles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.65.229.151 (talk) 06:36, 12 March 2009 (UTC)


 * May I add that a simple "Deleting stuff as discussed on talk page" in the edit summary would have prevented any problems. Blank edit summaries and large deletions are, as you must realize, a typical action of a vandal.  Ron h jones (Talk) 21:47, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Pirates
But Martin and Tom are space pirates —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.213.226.225 (talk) 23:07, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Pirates with Automobile starter solenoids. Just like yourself...  Ron h jones (Talk) 23:12, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Request for information
Hello. No means to be nosey, but could you tell me what the H in your name stands for?--Tmwps (talk) 16:01, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Henry, named after my father  Ron h jones (Talk) 16:29, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tmwps (talk • contribs) 12:55, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

jakces
did u even see that video? it is merely arest in progress. there is absolutely no beating! she is being arested! 71.99.127.141 (talk) 01:42, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * - Police physically challenged...  Ron h jones (Talk) 01:45, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * oh my dear. that is mashine translation. howeever that is unibiased source (that reporter was also arested). see that vido of arest. and tell me . then not before, you see any beating. It is merelly an arrest. She has made media bubble around this "accident" . form of guerilla marketing i would say. Because Green Party was running out of money before election.

please read more about this "accident" before reverting my removal of biased text from biased source.

She was not beat up. Cermak was inoncent. see rest of the article.

p. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.99.127.141 (talk) 02:13, 16 March 2009 (UTC)


 * You cannot delete it just because you think the report is biased, you have to show that the report is biased by citing other references that contradict it - then you can discount it. See WP:NPOV  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:54, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

B-Tight
did we make you chuckle? ... at least a bit? But for the record b-tight did say that he turns into a n.. when he is angry, so you might reconsider putting that back.. the hulk bit was invented though, just thought you ought to know! lovely greetings! b-hulk —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.193.241.177 (talk) 22:40, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Ho, ho, ho... Provide a cited reference (essential for WP:BLP)and you can put it in yourself.  Ron h jones (Talk) 22:43, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Corrine Brown
Thanks for your concern, however I was trying to get rid of all the references to stupidity. Please note that I edited with the term: "False Information/Grammar". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.224.56.2 (talk) 17:48, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * So that's why you put "She received an Communications/Speech degree from Edward Waters College in Jacksonville, and has been on the faculty at the latter two schools and at Florida Community College at Jacksonville where she is the janitor . She somehow served in the Florida House of Representatives for ten years before entering government at the national level, and she is currently a member of the Congressional Black Caucus and the Congressional Progressive Caucus. We still have no idea how this happened . In college she became a member of Sigma Gamma Rho Sorority where everyone hated her, one of four African American Greek letter sororities in the United States. No one actually cares about this. ".
 * I rest my case...  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:17, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Your edit to Jalen Cotton
I just want to let you know that I reverted your undo. They IP editing the page is not its original author and appears to be trying to turn the page into an attack page. Enviroboy TalkCs 01:36, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Ooooh, that's weird. I just added a db-nocontext template to the current page, which was then
 * (cur) (prev) 01:30, 19 March 2009 71.114.57.121 (talk) (532 bytes) (undo)
 * It saved OK, and did not show any errors or edit conflicts. There's something odd with WP tonight, Twinkle suddenly stopped for about 15 mins a little earlier, all the extra tabs just vanished.  Ron h jones (Talk) 01:44, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I figured that it was something like that. It could have something to do with the new stress on the servers from abuse filters. Enviroboy TalkCs 02:02, 19 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Just to follow up, there's a thread about the article on ANI: WP:ANI. You were not mentioned but I thought that you should be informed in case you are are interested. Enviroboy TalkCs 04:13, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. Very interesting.  I've added my tuppenceworth  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:42, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Abe Saperstein
`My name is Lonni Berkley. I am the eldest daughter of Eloise Saperstein and the eldest grandchild of Abraham Michael Saperstein. I am an attorney and appreciate the importance of verification, although from a legal perspective, New York Times v. Sullivan imposes a dramtaically different standard on a public figure, a standard my grandfather has suffered dramatically as a result of. I can tell you Abe Saperstein's height bcs. I knew my grandma Sylvia's height, 5'2"--my grandfather was slightly taller. I know my grandfather was inducted as the first and at the time only white man into the Black Athletes Hall of Fame because my entire family attended the ceremony in Las Vegas, Nevada. My grandmother, who was alive at the time and lived in my home, said, "Lonni, when your grandfather was inducted into the Basketball Hall of Fame (in springfield which I also attended as a small child) he was being honored for changing the sport of Basketball. Today he is honored for helping to change the world. He is smiling in Heaven." I know he assisted Jackie Robinson to break the color barrier in Baseball because Mr. Robinson called my grandparents' family home nearly every night when my mother was a child. She referred to him merely as the "Crying Man." He explained to my grandfather how he was spat on and was beaned with fast balls nearly everytime he came to bat. My grandfather, as my mother eavesdropped on the call and who is still alive today and working full time, said, "Jackie, if you can't do this don't do this, if you can let me help you--and among other things commissioned a bio engineer to craft a helmet to protect him. Jessie Owens' story is well documented. He, despite his myriad achievements,could neither rent an apartment for his family nor secure a job. My grandfather gave him a job. 80,000 spectators in Berlin witnessed the mayor of Berlin state the famous words I quoted in my article, "Mr. Owens, 12 years ago Hitler would not shake your hand. Today I give you both of mine." I have an autographed letter from President Eisenhower thanking my grandfather for his service. I am not sure what documentation or verification you obtained for your article. Mine is obtained first-hand. As the oldest grandchild, I may be the only grandchild with a crystal clear recollection of my grandfather.

My grandfather and grandmother received death threats throughout their lives as a result of their considerable contributions to sports within and inclusive of the African-American community. My grandfather shared hotel rooms with his players, meals, and gate takes. He drove to games in a model T Ford with everyone packed in tightly just escaping town after a particularly decisive victory over the local White Barnstorming team with barely his life. He did this in the 1920's, '30's and 40's--40 years before polite White society sat at lunch counters with African American citizens. I have, in recent years seen my grandfather's reputation dragged through the mud by self aggrandizing, self-proclaimed "experts" who know nothing of what they speak. I would be happy to speak to you directly about the contents of this article. Very truly yours, Lonni E. Berkley, esq. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.16.75.68 (talk) 04:42, 19 March 2009 (UTC)


 * It does not matter who you are. Your data may be 100% correct.  WP does not verify the authorship of the added data.  An IP adding a very substantial amount of data with no third party references, is always very likely to get the addition reverted.  WP is not a collection of ideas, it's a collection of facts, please read WP:V and that should show you how to add data with full approval of editors.  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:26, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

editing harney page
If one eliminates material that is unsourced or is untruthful, then that is a constructive edit. If you read the talk for the Harney page, you will see that the phrase I eliminated has been questioned by others as unsourced, in that the writer who put in the statement left a bogus citation to the contents page of a volume, and did so twice, for two completely different matters. To remove lies and fables is constructive. The sentence should be deleted unless it is properly sourced. Assuming that a deletion is always unconstructive seems to me risky at best. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theonemacduff (talk • contribs) 01:28, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The edit has already been reverted at least once. The references are properly formatted, and the book does exist (searched on Google Books) - so it did look unconstructive.  Also after much more searching I also found some corroborating data, which I will attach to the article, and then that section can stay.  Ron h jones (Talk) 01:47, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

University of South Carolina
Are you gay? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.18.25.210 (talk) 23:22, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


 * No. Happy hetrosexual, married for 34 years  Ron h jones (Talk) 23:23, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Do you have something against homosexuals like me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.18.25.210 (talk) 23:25, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Nope. I have friends in both camps.  Ron h jones (Talk) 23:27, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Any of them available? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.18.25.210 (talk) 23:27, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm too polite to ask  Ron h jones (Talk) 23:28, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

What were your favorite movies of 2008? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.18.25.210 (talk) 23:29, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


 * WP:NOTBLOG  Ron h jones (Talk) 23:34, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Belvedere College
you removed me edits which you said were wrong even though they were not Belvedere are no longer the holders of the senior cup tHEY have not won 33 scts

They have not produced the most irish internationals

I will undo your edit due to this —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.43.161.199 (talk) 23:52, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry if I mistook your edit, but deleting text with a still valid reference (I did check it) is very often a vandal attack.  Ron h jones (Talk) 00:08, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Previous edit
I apologize for the mess that was the previous edit I made on the Redman/Method Man - Blackout! page. I'm still not 100% with editing objects such as infoboxes and when I tried to add a part to a box it got kind of bad.

Sincerely,

Blaine —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abovetherim440 (talk • contribs) 00:48, 21 March 2009 (UTC)


 * No problem. Some are not easy. You just have to watch out for the amount of curly braces around the fields. I find that adding extra closing braces at the end of the box - then see the result (and then how many closing braces too many to remove), sometimes helps. Also if it gets to corrupted then try the "undo" in the history  Ron h jones (Talk) 17:54, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Administrator intervention against vandalism
Hello. Please be careful when making edits to WP:AIV, as it appears that you accidentally removed an administrator's comment. Thanks — Kralizec! (talk) 03:35, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Not me. Please check again the diff page you cited - that was an edit by Alansohn  Ron h jones (Talk) 03:39, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * So it was. My apologies!  — Kralizec! (talk) 03:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem, An easy mistake. I knew it wasn't me as I never directly edit that page, I leave it to Twinkle.  Ron h jones (Talk) 14:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

North Florida Christian High School
Dude you are a flamer —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.41.128.220 (talk) 16:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I appear to have upset a vandal, c'est la vie...  Ron h jones (Talk) 16:46, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

History News Network
did u read my edit summ? 69.141.11.242 (talk) 17:37, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Of course, but that was just your POV. Where are the third party refs that WP expects? - See WP:V, they are not in that article, just a ref to HNN home page, and a self ref does not count (neither do the links to blogs which should not be there - so I removed them WP:LINKSTOAVOID).  Ron h jones (Talk) 01:10, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Blanfpea lappksn alrekn ksll, anep.
Geeze, I was putting together a paragraph from a couple of obscure languages, compiling a large computer program, and editing micrographs on the computer; and I had a fever. I'm not 100% sure about the reversion, I would usually suggest it be discussed or referenced. I won't be offended if you correct it, as I'm still overly busy. I can't even guess what I meant to say. Sorry about that. --KP Botany (talk) 03:57, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Now I'm confused... I take it you mean the Petra page - I did not revert any of your edits - in fact I reverted an IP who was deleting big chunks, leaving no edit summary, and leaving a corrupted page back to your version. Or have I missed a point somewhere?  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:20, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Chrysler Pacifica
Thanks for your help in reverting this anon user [Special:Contributions/69.159.26.195] I know that all of the IPs originate from 69.159, though the last five digits may change. It is similar to the problem that I had with User:AverageGuy; they are always WP:Hounding me and make wholesale revert because of a minor fact tag, while doing nothing else constructive. GoldDragon (talk) 00:46, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. Happy to help. Note I re-added the "disputed" fact tag - now it gives them no reason to revert! It's sad we still have ISPs who use dynamic IP address, means they can log off and on and get a new address.  Ron h jones (Talk) 00:52, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Electric Car Page - Spam Deletion
Yes, I deleted two links to http://www.electriconwheels.com/ and http://www.electric-cars-and-vans.com/ - two untrusted comparison shopping sites that are choked to the gills with AdSense. It was not a mistake deletion. It was trying to keep the page spam-free. We can take it to the talk page if needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clearlight418 (talk • contribs) 02:14, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Just because there is a small Google Adsense box, doesn't mean one cannot use the site. There's a whole lot of data within those pages - not just links to one particular vehicle.  Ron h jones (Talk) 18:55, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Scotforth
get a life —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.198.173.238 (talk) 02:52, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Another reverted IP vandal, need I say more.  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:17, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of AnimationToolkit
An article that you have been involved in editing, AnimationToolkit, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/AnimationToolkit. Thank you.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. MuZemike 05:04, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank You, I've have added my comments on the AfD page.  Ron h jones (Talk) 18:48, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Noma Bar - SD
I'm trying to compose the article for this illustrator. Rather than delete it only minutes after it's creation, maybe you could lend a hand. Thanks! Foureyedave19 (talk) 22:41, 31 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Amazing how the created person changed from the initial page of
 * Noma Bar, (born June 5, 1941 in Brookline, Massachusetts) is the Founder, Chairman & CEO of The Kraft Group, a diversified holding company with assets in paper & packaging, sports & entertainment, real estate development and a private equity portfolio. However, his best-known holdings are the National Football League's New England Patriots and Major League Soccer's New England Revolution, as well as the stadium where they play, Gillette Stadium.
 * TO
 * Noma Bar, (born in 1973 in Israel) is a Graphic Designer.
 * or am I being cynical...  Ron h jones (Talk) 22:44, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Newton's laws of motion.
your a loser —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.237.109.115 (talk) 07:24, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Another thwarted vandal, so sad... not.  Ron h jones (Talk) 14:07, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

WP:UAA
I noticed that you reported User:Fucc u. He was blocked 3 years ago. GT5162 (我的对话页) 15:59, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. I was looking for someone completely different, hit the wrong key in the search box and spotted that name dropped down.  There being no block template at that address, I assumed it was still valid.  Ron h jones (Talk) 22:35, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Baba Shanti Giri
An article that you have been involved in editing, Baba Shanti Giri, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/. Thank you.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. A NobodyMy talk 19:00, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

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Soldiers of the Cross
Mr. Ron Jones

I would like to dispute the part that claims:

"Critics from both inside and outside[1] the organization have sharply questioned some of the church's practices. Writers at an independent group blog of church members[2] have suggested changes to church policies they consider to be too strict or Biblically unfounded, such as the prohibition of automobile use on sabbath days. The church rejects such criticisms, arguing that it is led directly by God and has the authority to set rules for the protection of its members."

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I would like to request a change so that it reads:

"Critics from outside the organization have sharply questioned some of the church's practices such as the prohibition of automobile use on Sabbath days."

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cubeonce (talk • contribs) 21:28, 8 April 2009 (UTC)


 * That was some time ago... I reverted the IP edit as it was


 * 1) A large amount of data
 * 2) Had two non dead references
 * 3) No explanation for deleting the material
 * WP is not censored WP:NOTCENSORED and should be written from a WP:NPOV, so deletion of appropriate referenced data is not a normal action. If the referenced data is incorrect, then some contradiction could be added (with suitable references).  If you think it should be a much smaller paragraph, then prune it down, but still include the references so that users can read them if they want to.  Ron h jones (Talk) 21:27, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

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templates
Hi, can you check to see if you have db-u1 and db-userreq transcluded into your talk page? This page is showing up in the category of speedy deletions. Thanks. (Watchlisting). - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:47, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Not any more - some vandal played with the Archive box template, thus creating the page User talk:Ronhjones/archivelist, which changes the text in the box, and loses the link to the Archive page, if one then just blank the new page it does not work, it has to be deleted to get the default action working.  Ron h jones (Talk) 18:54, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I've now changed the Archive box to one that cannot be easily corrupted.  Ron h jones (Talk) 18:39, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of File talk:Marcus Antonius1.jpg
I had put a speedy delete tag on that page and realised it was the talk page and removed it. The speedy deletion tag is now on the image page. The image is a clear violation of Copyright as it is not a work of the US government, has no subtaintiated source and has a decieving loop back to wikipedia as the source and when you arrive the page says Wikimedia Commons is the source.--Amadscientist (talk) 02:15, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I just saw a corrupted talk page (on WP) and placed a CSD template on it with WP:TW. Nothing else was changed. The file was already on Commons - when a file is on Commons and one enters the name in WP, then a WP page opens transcluded with the Commons data - plus a tiny Commons symbol on the top right - which if clicked will take you to the Commons entry.  If one adds data to the talk page while in WP then that data goes to the talk page on WP, not the Commons one, so you get 2 talk pages that are not connected.  It's an odd system, and has caught me out in the past - so I'm wise to it now  Ron h jones (Talk) 18:38, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Rottweiler
Hi, I noticed that Rottweiler article is getting frequently vandalized (e.g. look at April logs). I wanted to request the page to be locked but I dont really understand how to do it. Can you ask admins to lock it? Regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.71.16.207 (talk) 05:16, 23 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I had a look, but I only see 13 vandal in 22 days - I know from experience that it's not often enough, one typically only gets a week or so of semi-protection (semi prevents IP from editing). If we get to 1 per day or more then it's worth a go.  For reference - to ask for protection go to Requests_for_page_protection, click "edit" and start a sub section just above the last entry with
 * ======, then under that template heading add something like
 * Semi-protect . High level of IP vandalism in the past weeks ~
 * and save the edit. (I've set the above so you can cut and paste the two bits, if you like)  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:17, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Scene & others: short pages?
Hi, you put on the scene disambiguation page. It is not particularly short, so I was wondering why it should have this added.Graeme Bartlett (talk) 01:35, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Same for . Do you have any pointers where the use and application of Short pages monitor is explained? Michael Bednarek (talk) 07:12, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


 * According to the template they appear in Category:Monitored short pages  Ron h jones (Talk) 00:57, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I know what the effects of placing the template Short pages monitor in an article are. I asked whether you can point us to some rules or guidelines which explain for which articles that template should be used. Michael Bednarek (talk) 02:17, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

How short is short
Please see Wikipedia talk:Special:ShortPages --PBS (talk) 21:39, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I was adding to short ones with AWB, I must have done a couple of long ones accidentally. I'm still learning how to use AWB. Please delete if it is an issue, but as it's only a comment, there's no real harm done.  Ron h jones (Talk) 01:00, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but I suggest you check your edits and fix what should be fixed. Michael Bednarek (talk) 02:17, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

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Hi!
Question: Is this neccesary in such a long article? Thanks. --Againme (talk) 19:27, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * That was some time ago, and was answered some paragtaphs above.  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:48, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

My Edits
Hello, I see you have reverted my edits on Titteringtonj7's userpage. He's my friend from school and I helped him create the account. So I have rights to edit his page. So my edits were not vandalism. Thanks for understanding! P.S. I Rock Wikipedia! (talk) 22:48, 4 May 2009 (UTC)DJ WikiBob
 * in WP only the user has the right to edit his page, any edit by another editor shows up as a vandal attack in WP:VF  Ron h jones (Talk) 22:50, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Compulsion
The material added by Iloveyoutube probably isn't copyvio, as the same text is in the press release, parts of which have appeared verbatim in the Guardian. But it sure isn't encyclopedic. Gordonofcartoon (talk) 01:26, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * A press release does not lose the copyright. In fact there was "Copyright ITV plc 2009" at the bottom of the original web page.  Just because ITV released it for the newspapers, does not automatically mean users can copy it verbatim, without change, into WP.   Ron h jones (Talk) 20:01, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

User keeps making baised changes in the Article on "Tony Woods"
The user Zallen27 keeps making biased changes in this article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Woods I would guess he is connected to the campaign. You corrected him for Vandalism once. Could you look at the page and give an unbiased edit? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Casprings (talk • contribs) 02:35, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I've had a glance at this. I don't know if Zallen27 has an agenda, but I'd have to agree with the removal (or at least major trimming) of that section: it looks to me a major piece of WP:SYNTH: material expounding an argument, assembled in a degree of detail not previously assembled elsewhere, and hence OR. Gordonofcartoon (talk) 09:15, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Also not sure if Zallen27 has an agenda. His first edit was just a simple delete of the section, with no reason given.  His second edit was much more sensible, with a more delicate pruning and leaving the main facts intact.  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:56, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Shih Tzu
loser eat dick in ur moms mouth —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.170.24.219 (talk) 16:14, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Another IP vandal hits a block...  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:47, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Just darn to swell!
Thank you.  Ron h jones (Talk) 21:54, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Kelly Bensimon
Hi - thanks for your note on my talk page. I'll try to keep an eye on the page. Can you block the people that say they are "authorized" and are her publicists?

Criminal court cases aren't "gossip" - I can't even believe that one.

Have a silly day (as my incomparable nephew says) PR (talk) 23:34, 6 May 2009 (UTC)


 * No, I'm not an Admin. But anyone can report a vandal to WP:AIV - after 4 warnings (i.e. the 5th vandalism) - but all need to be recent if an IP address (as might be multiple users), or a vandalism within 24h of a block being lifted. I've installed WP:TW - that gives extra tabs at top, so one just clicks the "arv" tab and ticks the appropriate boxes and a correctly formatted report is posted at WP:AIV.   Ron h jones (Talk) 00:17, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Pagan metal
Hey Dr., thanks for stepping in and undoing what by now is vandalism in that article--editor keeps on removing content, at least some of which is sourced and the rest is being worked on. So--chemistry? are you related to User:Blackmetalbaz by any chance? ;) Thanks again, Drmies (talk) 01:00, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem, I saw the references that were being lost in the diff view, and realized we had a problem with a vandal. Blackmetalbaz - much younger then me, and not my field - his page says "microbial genetics" - I would have to look that up!, sounds like heavy going...  Ron h jones (Talk) 17:59, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

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Long comment
Just a friendly request to please be careful when you're adding long comments to disambiguation pages, as you did to CBK. This edit removed a disambiguation category — I've reinserted it using a parameter in the disambig template. Thanks, Mlaffs (talk) 03:30, 19 May 2009 (UTC)


 * And again today in this edit to B-96. Mlaffs (talk) 03:55, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Fixed, and I've gone back through recent changes to check there are no other missing callsigns.  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:23, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks - I've actually undone your change to B-96. I had already gone back and fixed it by adding a parameter to the disambig template instead of adding the bare category. Appreciate the checking other edits! Mlaffs (talk) 22:26, 20 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Not sure what the intention was, but the page has been converted into a redirect, and a long comment was added, with the corresponding summary: . --AVRS (talk) 12:30, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * There was only one link on the GoldED page to another GoldED page, but as you prefer it that way, then I've changed it but removed the red - no point unless you about to create a page.  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:14, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I’m fine with a redirect, but I guess the long comment makes no sense there. I’ll put a redirect back. Thanks. --AVRS (talk) 07:31, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, no problem. Most of the pages, I just added the longcomment, in a few cases I also saw the opportunity to do some useful editing as well - that was one of them, I'll have to try to change the edit summary for those ones (still new to AWB).  I left in the long commnent on pages like that one, as it may well change to a dab page later, and then the longcomment is already in place..  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:58, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Sui Dynasty
Oh really. Ok. Well do you know whats Wrong with it?? Well thanks for letting me know. How do you add the things on the right hand side?? Love to add one. Thanks Again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dserna14 (talk • contribs) 00:21, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You added "By Deana", at the same time that I used WP:Twinkle to revert, you took it off. Even so, Twinkle still sets up for a user message.
 * Templates are usually set to be on the right hand side. They are basically using a table format. see Help:Table  Ron h jones (Talk) 00:31, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stalingrad Sniper (talk • contribs) 00:28, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

userboxes
How do you get the userboxes to appear on your user page?I know about the galleries but i just cant figure out how to get them to my user page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stalingrad Sniper (talk • contribs) 01:17, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Very easy. Have a look at Userboxes for examples.  They are all simple userbox templates (hence all have double braces around them e.g.  - any data after a bar is a parameter that is used by the box), you can find most of them them by looking in the catagory Category:Userboxes.  Add a boxboxtop template before and boxboxbottom template after, and you get a nice box around you selection.  Repeat that (with more boxes) and you get the second set alongside the first - like my user page.  Hope that helps - if you get stuck, name a couple of boxes, and I'll put them on your page, so you can see how it's done. (NB: if you read this after Friday, I'm out till Monday)  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:01, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

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In re María Amelia López Soliño
Hi, Ron:

I was aware that this subject's notability is seriously debatable. I am not attached to the article, but I created it because someone found the subject's death sufficiently notable to include in the Deaths in 2009 obituary section (see ). Therefore someone found this individual sufficiently notable and I removed the PROD tag for the reason stated below.

As I say I am not attached to the article and I will not vigorously defend the notability. However, I would ask that rather than speedy deletion or PRODding that the article go through the WP:AFD process, so it can be clarified whether or not inclusion in Wikipedia's obit section makes a subject notable per se.

Thanks for your attention. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 23:53, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * P.S.: Another editor kindly added Olive Riley's name to the article; I would submit that if López Soliño is not notable, then neither is Riley. Thanks. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 12:22, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

GraMicE's userpage
I deleted the entries myself. I didn't want them there anymore. I just wasn't logged in, because I didn't feel I needed to. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GraMicE (talk • contribs) 18:48, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * C'est la vie. If anyone makes an edit to another User page, then WP:VF shows that edit in a different colour to indicate a probable vandal attack. Even more so, when the data was deleted without any edit summary.  Ron h jones (Talk) 21:32, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

re. List of Microsoft codenames
Thanks for your message. If you actually read the page, you'll notice that the chart says that the Windows NT 5.0 (a.k.a. 2000) was the "first major Windows release since Windows 3.0 without a codename". It also lists "Neptune" as its codename. Could you enlighten me as to how that makes any sense at all?

If you do some auxiliary research, you'll notice that Neptune refers to a product that was never shipped (as correctly identified a few rows down in the table).

What happened to WP:AGF? This is absurd. 71.198.23.108 (talk) 20:34, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


 * WP:AGF! I never for one moment intimidated that it was a vandal attack, I just said "Rv blanking, no reason" - which is 100% correct - data was removed and no reason given in the edit summary. If everybody was to be allowed to blank out material without giving a reason and not be reverted, then you would have no WP left.  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:52, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Afd nomination of Tomo Miličević
There is already an rfc concerning this at Talk:30 Seconds to Mars. Two discussion are likely to lead to confusion. --neon white talk 21:26, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

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Blue Coral
No, I deleted it. It is a stub and it is notable. And, please take the time to assume good faith, calling me a vandal is plain rude. Next time try asking instead of making improper commentary such as that you did in the edit summary. --Jeremy (blah blah) 03:49, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You must admit that completely ignoring the sentence in bold type in the template box "but do not remove this notice from pages that you have created yourself" would suggest vandalism. You claim it is notable, I see no references to back this up.  The article says it's a pair of restaurants that are now closed - I see no notability in that.  Ron h jones (Talk) 18:36, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

MLS
I believe I gave a valid point...I don't see why you think it was a stupid edit. Please Explain why it wasn't a good edit. Thanks! 72.219.227.230 (talk) 23:52, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry - Your edit summary did not make it very clear that there was another disambiguation page - had you put a link around it - it would have been more obvious. I'll sort it out.  Ron h jones (Talk) 23:58, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

The Fall (browser game)
Hey, parts of the article got deleted because I pulled it off the front page of the game. I'm sure the site's admins wouldn't mind having it posted on wikipedia though, so if I can get their permission can I include those parts in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Memph5 (talk • contribs) 00:34, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not easy... See WP:COPYREQ - You not only have to get their permission, you have to get them to display a GFDL license on the web site, showing that they have allowed their material to be copied. It's often easier to completely re-write the article.  Ron h jones (Talk) 00:20, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

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Reply to Tornado warning
No problem. Also, it's not a problem with a javascript. It appears that the last unvandalized revision had a blacklisted link which won't let us revert to the last version. Elockid (talk) 23:34, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

re: Mosley
I feel my edit on this page summed the subject up in a clear and concise way...

Seriously, I apologise for the vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.100.165.121 (talk) 23:18, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Some may think your comments were correct. However, we cannot voice such opinions here.  Ron h jones (Talk) 23:22, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Tatsuma (Farker)
If you will read some of the work this one man has done, it is worthy of notation. Please let wiki be the record of his selfless actions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gwpfarker (talk • contribs) 23:33, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If he is that good, then you won'y have any trouble finding WP:RS for the article.  Ron h jones (Talk) 23:37, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Jonny Corndawg
I removed the speedy tag from Jonny Corndawg as the article has a reference from a weekly newspaper. -- Eastmain (talk) 23:37, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Special:ShortPages
Special:ShortPages never includes redirects. So things like this aren't necessary. Cheers. --MZMcBride (talk) 18:54, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

File:4-AcO-DMT.svg
Dear Ronhjones, I have reverted your changes to File:4-AcO-DMT.svg as you got the structure wrong, the transparency was messed up, and there were CH3 added. Please see WikiProject_Chemistry/Structure_drawing, especially, please do not try to create or manipulate chemical structures without a molecule editor. Cacycle (talk) 04:31, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm half confused. I see I put the side chin on the 2, not the 3 position - my error, sorry.  As for the drawing - well it was done in a molecule editor (SymyxDraw - which is the current replacement for IsisDraw, MDL was bought by Elsevier, which split off part of the business as Symyx).  As for the methyls - well I added them, as last time I did a drawing it was changed because there was no methyls... User_talk:Benjah-bmm27, so this time I put them in.  Obviously you can't please all the people all of the time. Hopefully someone will make a definitive decision sometime.  Ron h jones (Talk) 00:05, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

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I don't know what I'm doing!
I just barely got that comment on there lol... how do I make a new section for my comment on the talk page? It doesn't fit in any of the ones with an edit button.
 * Every page has a talk page (see tabs at top of page). So you need to open the talk page Talk:Tara Maclay, and the forth tab along the top says "New Section" - click that, add a section title, add your text in the edit box, and please add 4 tildes ~ at the end of your text to show who you are  Ron h jones (Talk) 23:02, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

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Antonio Valencia
Thank you for contributing to the fight against Wikipedia vandalism, most recently on Antonio Valencia's page. Your work is appreciated and your message to the perpetrator clear and professional. Good luck in future edits.

BTW it would be great if Valencia got a bit more depth in his article. Comparing his article to others in Manchester United, I noticed that it is somewhat of a stub. Please contribute if you can. Thank you. Artifountain (talk) 19:28, 1 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Hmmm, what do I hate more than football... Not a lot...  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:42, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Revertion Of My Usertalk Page
I appreciate the hard work those Wikipedia on the Anti-vandalism unit do to help keep the wiki safe. However today when i attempted to edit my own talk space from my home computer on my own IP address it was instantly reverted.

July 2009
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you.  Ron h jones (Talk) 23:16, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * If this is a shared IP address, and you didn't make any unconstructive edits, consider creating an account for yourself so you can avoid further irrelevant warnings.

This was a complicated issue to resolve as it involved me archiving the past discussions into a sub-page. I was just wondering because i am a computer student, Is there any way to filter these bots out to ignore specific IP or MAC addresses? Thanks--Koman90 (talk) 23:30, 3 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry, we have no crystal balls to link usernames to IP addresses. One therefore has to assume that large blanking of pages (not by the username) is a vandal attack.  Personally I always login where ever I am (home or work) as it makes life easy. If you want to archive past discussions (good idea) then there are bots to do that for you, based on age / number of threads remaining / etc.  Look at the code at the top of this page, (reproduced below) you can copy and paste into yours, and just change the destination address (from Ronhjones). It's been working perfect for this page and I have used it on several other article talk pages.  As archives get big, so the bot increases the counter to make anew file (I'm still on Archive 1)

Hope that is of some help to you.  Ron h jones (Talk) 23:42, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Anne Lovett
Removed tag per reason at Talk Page and additional info. at article. For sure, lots still to be done. RashersTierney (talk) 01:46, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Thunderbirds complaint
It's true and you know it. Thunderbird 3 is piloted by Jeff and Gordon, while T4 is controlled by Alan! Change it back or I shall call your mummy Ronald Jones


 * Thunderbird 4 has always been Gordon. I watched it when it first came out! Don't try to bluff - it won't work  Ron h jones (Talk) 16:12, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Unconstructive edit
I got a message from you telling me an edit of mine to the page Mohaka was unconstructive, but I have a concern. I have not made any edits to this page. I have never even been on it. This is not the first time this has happened, nor the second. Do you know what could be happening? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.251.255.18 (talk) 17:28, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Sadly, as an anonymous user - you inherit the sins of those who have used that IP address before. When you edit WP - if you are not logged into your account - WP notes down your IP address (which is given to you when you connect to the internet), so you see messages for people that used the internet and disconnected just before you connected. If you check out http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mohaka&action=history you will see that IP address 92.251.255.18 did indeed edit Mohaka.  Please consider creating an account, then you only get messages that really are for yourself.  Ron h jones (Talk) 17:59, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

82.6.112.69
Hi there,

I noticed that you reverted some instances of vandalism by 82.6.112.69 on the Peter Pan article. I also removed some instances of vandalism by 82.6.112.69 on the Kazakhstan article. You seem to have more experience with preventing vandalism than I do; just thought you ought to be aware of the pattern displayed by this IP.

Best,

Mainplane —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mainplane (talk • contribs) 18:04, 5 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I believe he's now past the final warning.  Ron h jones (Talk) 18:06, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Barack Obama
you say that newsmax isnt a legit source, yet on the same page you allow links from MSNBC? wtf!

are you kidding me? lol Olberman is legit.. and world famous, award winning investigative journalist Chris Ruddy's website isn't?

Look, I dont mind editing, but please edit for content, not ideology. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghee99 (talk • contribs) 22:39, 6 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Unhappy vandal whinging at wrong reverter!  Ron h jones (Talk) 22:51, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

to use an accredited new source to add information. a source generally accepted to be true, is not vandalism.

I know you are from the UK (a great place, I was born there in fact).

...but to personally insult me is beyond the pale, I mean, I understand that because of various government controls in your country, you are used to a more limited/censored view of the news. I used to live there, so I know.

So please take in consideration that I am writing from the USA, where there is a stronger freedom of speech, and a willingness to look at news stories, even if the are not government sanctioned.

Once again, with the UK government speech restrictions, and the near hedgemony of the BBC, you might not be as used to total free speech (with the old "yelling Fire in a crowded moviehouse" exception, of course)... nonetheless, please remember to be nice and polite to other users here, to keep the hostility and in-fighting to a minimum.

One other thing, if I may be so bold to suggest, is that the articles should be edited in the interest of truth and accuracy, this isn't a popularity website, but an encyclopedia of Fact. As such, when editing, perhaps, you could ask yourself "is this true?" rather than "do I personally FEEL good about this?"

just my two cents, but hope that helps.

(Ghee99 (talk) 00:14, 7 July 2009 (UTC)).


 * I never had anything to do with this revert. This was carried out by User:Loonymonkey, a US person, who says he involved with US politics, who also left you the "Template:uw-spam1" on your user page.  I have no feelings for the correctness of the edit one way or the other.  If I had see your original edit, I would have left it alone as I do not know those journals quoted, to be able to make an informed decision.  Ron h jones (Talk) 11:55, 7 July 2009 (UTC)