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Questions about "Speedy deletion".
Thank you for the "speedy" reply to my request for help on this topic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wordreader#.7B.7BHelp_me.7D.7D_with_.22Speedy_deletion.22

[My error: The article was created in December 2010. It was the "Talk" page that was created in May 2012. I'm sorry for the confusion.]

So, is that stub article a candidate for the "Speedy deletion" action or not? If not, why not? I'm still confused as not all of my questions were addressed. Thanks for the information that you gave me. I never heard about WP gadgets before, for instance. Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 01:16, 10 September 2012 (UTC)


 * My view is that it's your decision - it's the only way to learn... If you think it's suitable for a speedy then put one in, the admin that will wander by and look will make up his mind, if he declines, he will give a reason in the edit summary which you can then read in the page history (well, I do, anyway!) - and he may make suggestions like "Declined - take to AfD" or similar. FWIW, I think you are probably correct - but I would wager not all admins are the same - we too are human! I don't usually do A7s - I know all admins are supposed to do everything and walk on water, but we do tend to drift into certain areas and become much more confident in those areas.  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:48, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

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Missing Image from Wiki Commons (9/12/12)
Dear Ron Jones,

I was in touch with you several months ago, regarding permission to post images on Wikipedia and your advice was very helpful, so much so that I am taking the liberty of asking you yet another question about this. I was given permission by Wikipedia to use the images and eleven were then posted by me on Wiki Commons (Category: Frederique Petrides) but I now notice that one is missing, which I would like to use. I am the copyright holder of the images which are of my mother, Frederique Petrides, who was an orchestral conductor. however in the letter to the permissions staff, it had been explained that what has become the missing image was now in the public domain. Would that be the reason it has been removed? And if so what can be done about this?

Thanks for your attention. Mx96 09:47, 12 September 2012 (UTC)User:Mx96


 * Page log is at http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Petrides_with_Orchestrette_Classique.tif&action=edit&redlink=1
 * I have made a un-deletion request at commons:Commons:Undeletion_requests/Current_requests for you  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:32, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Mx96 05:15, 14 September 2012 (UTC)Many thanks! User:Mx96

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File:Matterhorn Bobsleds in 2004.png
You're aware that was uploaded 6 years after, right? It's much more likely that this is a copyright violation on Wikia too. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:02, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
 * But the MouseInfo image is not the same - or am I not seeing something? The only image I see is http://jimhillmedia.com/mb/images/upload/backside_2_web.jpg  Ron h jones (Talk) 22:21, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Go to Dodds's post and click on the link below the text "This is the current:" (that's what I wrote in the db-f9 template). It takes you to this image which looks identical to me. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:24, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Well spotted, and that actually comes from http://www.certain.com/system/profile/web/index.cfm?PKwebID=0x224783d6e&varPage=activity - a Disney copyright.  Ron h jones (Talk) 22:32, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

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Lorenzo Merlino‎ CSD
A direct translation of copyrighted works is still a copyright problem. Per WP:COMPLIC, "Unless copyrighted images and text meet non-free content allowance, we can't use them or create "derivative works" of them. That means we can't translate too much from a copyrighted foreign language source to include it here or prominently feature a copyrighted image inside of a picture we take." Bgwhite (talk) 23:06, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Agreed - but for a speedy, you would need to find an Italian speaking admin to view it - that's unlikely to happen. A google translation of the page doesn't work to give a match (I tried it). Hence why I said in the edit summary - take to AfD - the you might find some bi-lingual editors to comment.  Ron h jones (Talk) 23:33, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
 * OR you could use Copyvio to blank the page, and allow a proper review.  Ron h jones (Talk) 23:35, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
 * First, it is in Portuguese and not Italian. He is from Brazil and not Italy.  Second, Google translate gives a great match.  Each paragraph in the article corresponds nicely with each paragraph in the biography.  Third, Copyvio is broken and has been for awhile.  I gave up on that when articles languished for months.


 * Original "Merlino was the first Brazilian designer represented in Paris, in 1999. That time he appeared in important publications such as The Face, I-D, Tank, View on Color, Jalouse, Liberátion, Elle, L’Officiel. From this collection, summer 1999, Madonna purchased a dress and Natalie Imbruglia a t-shirt."
 * Google "Merlino was the first Brazilian stylist to be represented in Paris in 1999. This action succeeded appearances in magazines important as The Face, ID, Tank, View on Colour, Jalouse, Libération, Elle, L'Officiel. Madonna bought a dress from her summer 1999, and Natalie Imbruglia a t-shirt from the same collection.


 * Original "Together with other designers he founded the Semana da Moda in April 1997 and took part in it until March 1999. Soon after, he decided to launch his collection independently for three consecutive seasons, starting a new modus operandi in Brazil."
 * Google "Much of his training he attributes to this encounter. together with other designers founded the Fashion Week in April 97, which participated in all editions until March 99. Soon after, for three seasons, chose to show their collections so independent, ushering in Brazil this model parades during Release schedule." Bgwhite (talk) 23:54, 19 October 2012 (UTC)


 * OK, point taken - Google decided it was Italian...! BTW Copyvio is still working - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyright_problems - someones people forget to do all the actions in "Instructions for filing", which breaks it. Unlike CSD/Afd with Twinkle there is no quick fix that does all the page filling for you.  Ron h jones (Talk) 00:50, 20 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank You. I have a hard time reading and understanding English most days because I only know bad English. Bgwhite (talk) 01:08, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

I appreciate
the heads-up on the Zoe Ferraris picture. I had been corresponding with Ms Ferraris and she sent me a couple of pictures to use. I am reluctant to contact her again by sending that rather imposing form that wikipedia likes, so will check in my correspondence with her to see if the language there will satisfy our copyright folks. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 14:47, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Form not my design! If you cannot find enough words to send in, then I could send you a pre-filled in form from OTRS - you could forward it to Zoe Ferraris, and just ask her to state agreement, and send it back to us. Let me know here if you want me to do that.  Ron h jones (Talk) 18:43, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks Ron, this is more or less what I did. I had a sort of filled out form from OTRS that I forwarded to her and asked her to send it to "them" (Permissions at wikipedia or something) from her web site.  Hopefully this will all happen. Carptrash (talk) 19:47, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * It can be sent to any active queue - permissions or info is OK - did you keep the ticket number in the subject line? The OTRS system groups all e-mails by the ticket number, no number means it gets a new one and sits in a queue with no link to the original ticket.  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:51, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * If you forgot the ticket number then don't worry, I expect the OTRS person who actions it will see the ticket number on the file page and merge the tickets - it just might take a few days longer.  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:59, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

I just got another email from Zoe F and today one from Stephen P. confirming that the rights on the picture (actually two of them) are all in good order. Later, Carptrash (talk) 18:58, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 * It appears you now have a valid OTRS ticket for them, which has been applied to the images, thank you.  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:47, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

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Bentworth
Hi. It is against MOS guidelines to have a cluttered lead with photographs. Ukiw has been warned of this previously and been reverted by the other article editors. If he wants to constructively add content it is not acceptable to me for him to do that to the intro and the article face a GA delisting.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld  16:13, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
 * He complained, and there was no edit summary for the content removal. I did tell him the lede needed sorting out.  Ron h jones (Talk) 18:57, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Dylan McDermott Photo
Why'd you delete the Dylan McDermott photo? Isn't it OK to use? http://www.flickr.com/photos/tubefilter/8023116121/ TV | talk 23:24, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
 * If you click the symbols under the "License" label you will see it's CC BY-NC-SA 2.0. It has to be PD, CC-0, CC-BY or CC-BY-SA to be uploaded here. The presence of NC or ND in the license code makes it unacceptable.  Ron h jones (Talk) 23:28, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh okay, I thought noncommercial was ok? It's not like wiki is commercial? Maybe I'm just confusing them. TV | talk 23:31, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
 * WP is not commercial, but all the images here (except non-free ones) may be used by anyone else for any purpose (including commercial), so long as they follow the license terms - i.e BY means they must attribute the owner and SA means they must Share Alike (use exactly the same license as here).  Ron h jones (Talk) 23:35, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Ahh! Thanks for explaining! TV | talk 23:48, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
 * That's OK. Sadly you will find that not many Flickr users will use CC-BY or CC-BY-SA...  Ron h jones (Talk) 23:50, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Kairo (film) to Pulse (2001 film)

 * Hi. Since I want to request moving the page Kairo (film) to Pulse (2001 film) and you are the discussion closer at Talk:Kairo (film), I came here before requesting a move review.
 * I understand you didn't move the page because of "no consensus." However, Naming conventions (use English) says "The title of an article should generally use the version of the name of the subject which is most common in the English language, as you would find it in reliable sources" and Naming conventions (films) says "Use the title more commonly recognized by English readers; normally this means the title under which it has been released in cinemas or on video in the English-speaking world."
 * The official website of the film (http://www.pulsefilm.com/) says the title is Pulse. Many English-language websites, including Allmovie, The A.V. Club, Cinespot, Guardian, Midnight Eye, Rotten Tomatoes, The Seattle Times, Slant Magazine, Village Voice and The Washington Post, use the title Pulse, not Kairo. Kiyoshi Kurosawa, the director of the film, also refers to the film as Pulse in Midnight Eye interview and Reverse Shot interview.
 * So I guess Pulse is "the name of the subject which is most common in the English language" and "the title more commonly recognized by English readers." Why don't you move the page? 122.29.28.169 (talk) 09:28, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * That move request was 2 years ago... Was it the most common name then? Maybe not. Maybe it is now - feel free to start another move request after so long.  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:51, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Bringing to notice vandalism in the Satyasraya article

 * Hi Sir, there is once again vandalism first by user 69.112.23.166 in two articles Satyasraya and Veera Ballala II articles. Now I strongly suspect he is logging from a different computer showing a different IP address as 69.112.22.179 and is posing as a different user but is indulging in the same kind of vandalism. He is reverting my edits without any discussion. This is for your information. Kindly treat this as a complaint against both these anonymous users. Also, without discussion Pied hornbill is reverting my contributions to the Karnataka article despite reasons given and excerpts from reliable sources quoted by me in the talk page of that article. Pls. intervene on that issue also.Srirangam99 (talk) 15:15, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * It's plain it's the same person editing. Obviously the 3RR warning threw him a bit, and he has decided to IP address hop to give him space for a new set of edits and warnings. There is only one cure for an IP hopper - I've semi protected both pages for a month.  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:48, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Note User talk:69.112.22.179 and User talk:69.112.23.166 - I've located the IP addresses and added the templates - same ISP on a dynamic connection, he has just rebooted his router to get a new IP address.  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:56, 30 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Sir, I thank you for your timely intervention to protect the Satyasraya and Veera Ballala II articles. Can you kindly check the Karnataka page also. There, Pied Hornbill is reverting my contribution without any discussion despite my posting excerpts from my sources both on the article talk page as well as that of this user. Thanks in advance. I have left a message on his talk page today morning also. Srirangam99 (talk) 05:35, 31 October 2012 (UTC)


 * For your information, I have highlighted (in bold that is), the reasons and names of books from which from which I have sourced the relevant information. The 'bone of contention' for Pied Hornbill seems to be his unacceptance that parts of the state of Karnataka were in almost continuous occupation of the Chola Dynasty between 1000-1200 AD. Srirangam99 (talk) 05:46, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

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Restoration of Menlo Park (band)
Hi! I'm not sure why the user came to me rather than you, but I was asked to restore an article you deleted and userfy it. This I have done, as I couldn't see anything controversial in it. Anyway, the new home for it is User:Ekphraster/Menlo Park (band), and I thought I should let you know about the action out of courtesy/in case you know something about the deletion that I don't know. Take care, Stephen! Coming... 23:06, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
 * That's fine. I'm always happy to userfy if requested.  Ron h jones (Talk) 23:57, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi, just to let you know that I've added citations to Menlo Park (band) and moved it from my user area. Apologies if this isn't the right protocol or puts things in a tangle. Ekphraster (talk) 14:41, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
 * You may move it when you want to - except you moved it to the wrong place - I found it at Menlo Park (band) not Menlo Park (band) - where it should be - I've fixed that error.  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:45, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

File:Webcam Social Shopper Interface.jpg
MHSzymczyk (talk) 01:59, 31 October 2012 (UTC) Not sure why you flagged the Webcam Social Shopper Interface.jpg as not having copyright? I uploaded the image and am CEO of Zugara (owner of the image.) I sent an email as well to verify that it was indeed our company's property. Can you let me know what I have to do to further verify? My email is. Or MHSzymczyk on here...
 * Not sure where you sent it, but it never arrived - if it had arrived you would have got a reply. I'll send from OTRS.  Ron h jones (Talk) 21:49, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

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 * Good old vandal removed the image from the article - nice to see that this gives an extra warning of such vandalism.  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:23, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

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Georockgal/Delta Psi Delta (Canada)
I noticed I did not have to submit the page page Delta Psi Delta (Canada) -you seemed to have done this for me, how will I know it has been approved, or is this its approval? Also I have noticed that other greek groups similar to ours have been put on as a link on the List of Fraternities and Sororities page, and I was wondering if we can also be linked? Have we enough content? Georockgal (talk) 14:39, 7 November 2012 (UTC)georockgal
 * It's still a user page (as you requested). It is not an article (yet). You just removed the "userspace draft" banner I added - that makes no difference - it's still a user page. It will not get reviewed (or approved) in user space. You need to add the banner back - add  to the top of the article, save it and then you have the "Submit the page" link, which will start the process for reviewing. You cannot link to the page until it has become an article.  Ron h jones (Talk) 21:31, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Holland Codes perpetual vandalism
For some reason Holland Codes is the target of excessive vandalism. I wonder if you would consider some form of protection for this page? See the edit history here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Holland_Codes&action=history

Thanks. -Classicfilms (talk) 17:21, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
 * That is not excessive vandalism - and in any case the two edits are by the same IP. Just revert and warn as normal, and when they vandalise after level 4 then report to WP:AIV - looks like a school, so I've added a school IP template.   Ron h jones (Talk) 21:38, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
 * By two edits I am guessing you mean the November 8 edits. If you continue down the list, you will see that it has been ongoing since about September 12, which is considerably more than two edits. However, I won't push the issue. -Classicfilms (talk) 04:27, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
 * You are welcome to try WP:RFPP - they will be looking for at least 1 vandal edit per day over a few weeks.  Ron h jones (Talk) 15:27, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

South London Christian College
I have a copy of the letter the college sent to all their students in October where they themselves state they have debts of £250,000 and that this is the reason they are entering liquidation. 86.146.109.47 (talk) 11:06, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
 * That does not count as a reliable source - that is called original research which is not allowed. You would have to get a reliable source to publish the letter first. (such as a UK daily newspaper - Mail, Sun, Times, Telegraph, etc.)  Ron h jones (Talk) 15:25, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

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 * Another vandal removing images...  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:09, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

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Jan Jananayagam
As a contributor to this article, you may be interested to know it has been nominated for deletion. Your comments are welcome at Articles for deletion/Jan Jananayagam. Robofish (talk) 23:59, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Only as vandal fighting  Ron h jones (Talk) 00:13, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Armenian footballers
I see you nominated a bunch of Armenian footballers for speedy deletion under criterion A7. I've reviewed some of your nominations and declined all so far (and expect to decline the rest). A7 is only applicable to people for whom there is no assertion of notability. All of these articles assert enough notability, so they cannot be deleted under the speedy deletion process. You may nominate them for deletion via WP:PROD or WP:AFD. In the future, please be more discriminating in the way you apply the speedy deletion tag. -- Y not? 05:04, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
 * All changed to PRODs - mainly by other editors.  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:52, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Vаhe Mаrtirosyan
I had to decline your CSD#A7 since there was an actual claim that fit the criteria, being part of a professional team. Of course, that is very different than the criteria for AFD, and that doesn't mean it is accurate or notable, just that it doesn't fit the strict A7 criteria. If you have any questions, feel free to drop a note on my talk page. Dennis Brown - 2&cent;    &copy;   Join WER 19:26, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Same as previous thread.  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:53, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

G7
Hi Ron - just wondering was this technically a G7? I thought there were at least 3 separate authors. Thanks, 7  23:30, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 * As far as I could see Mourning722 put in the substantial amount of the (proposed) article, G7 does allow for that case, there doesn't have to only one author.  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:51, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

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Meat Depressed wiki
Hi, i recently created a page for the band Meat Depressed and it was deleted. I'm not sure why. Apparently because the text came from Myspace? I'm in the ban, and that's our current bio that I posted and was in the process of updating on the wikipedia page. Can you please un-delete if possible? Or would I be able to recreate it? Thank you, Andy Xwingnutx (talk) 01:02, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
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File:Administrative Block or Quaid Block of Pakistan Marine Academy.jpg
Why have you deleted this file...This file was owned by me and was taken by my camera...I authorized the academy to use this file on their website...I am the former cadet of the institution.Aliahmed47 (talk) 11:53, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Because the image is here - http://www.panoramio.com/photo/32526737 and says 'quite clearly' © All Rights Reserved by Naeem Altaf. To have it on Wikipedia you have to donate the copyright using the process of WP:DCM - the easy way is to change the panoramio license to CC-BY-SA or CC-BY or CC-0.  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:22, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Talkback File:Aguirre-power-plant-puerto-rico-electric-power-authority.jpg
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Thanks
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SAGE
Hi, I saw that you moved Sage Publications. Did you see that "SAGE" derives from the first names of the two founders (Sarah and George)? Perhaps the fact that it is an acronym changes things. If not, could you please also rename Category:SAGE academic journals, so that things remain consistent? Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 18:01, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * That was done as a request for redirect deletion (there was too many edits at Sage Publications to allow a user to move a page to it). Move reason was given as MOS:TM - suggest you consult with the requester at User_talk:BDD.  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:01, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, you apparently agreed that the move was justified under MOS:TM (I assume you verified this). So if this move is justified, then the cat needs to be moved, too. I'm not an admin, so I cannot do this. Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 19:20, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Naturally - it's quite clear - Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules, even if the trademark owner considers nonstandard formatting "official". One small flaw in your plan - you cannot rename categories - they are dynamically made from the entries in the articles. Some 600 articles will have to be edited, then we delete the empty category. You need an WP:AWB user to help you out - you can request that at AutoWikiBrowser/Tasks  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:07, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

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Institute for Artist Management
Hi, thanks for looking at this page. I was curious how you would know that it is a backwards copy. Seems a bit odd that a company would go to WP and copy material from there, in order to create its own website. Isn't the other way round more common? Especially when the material is written like an advert. Cheers. Logical Cowboy (talk) 21:10, 2 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Also, what about all the redlinks, do you think those should stay or go? Cheers.  Logical Cowboy (talk) 21:41, 3 December 2012 (UTC)


 * The third one I've encountered this year, it's slowly getting more and more of a problem. It was complicated. The first issue is the age of the article, if it was created yesterday, it would have gone. Thus we need to look slowly at the various versions - it seems the article had slowly evolved, phrases in the early articles are still present - take one bit as example - that was added at the start (17:54, 4 July 2010‎) - but the web page (http://www.instituteartist.com/about) must be written post January 2012 - it's possible (but highly unlikely) that every time the web page changed some different editor added the new bit to the Wikipedia article. Sadly, no-one thought to add a date of creation in the web page metadata, and page info comes up with the today's date and time - some php page created on the fly (I see it more and more, a distinct disadvantage over html pages). I then checked http://archive.org/web/web.php for old versions - there are none (it takes at least six months for a web page to get in the archive). Due to other later changes it looks like the 25 October 2012 version is used on the web page, and it's this one I have templated on the talk page.
 * Redlinks - looks far too many and not nice to see - I'd kill them.
 *  Ron h jones (Talk) 22:06, 3 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Nice detective work! I suspect that what is really going on is that the two pages have the same author--hence the COI tag.  Whether this is copvio is beyond me, but self-plagiarism sure was a problem for Jonah Lehrer.  Logical Cowboy (talk) 22:13, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * There may be an element of that, and I suspect the page may need some editing to be more suitable, as you said it's a bit like an advert.  Ron h jones (Talk) 22:17, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

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Mark Webber requested move
Hi there, I was wondering if you could take a look at this request for a page move for Mark Webber's article here. It seems a little odd in that the IP that requested the move has already accused two experienced editors of having a conflict of interest, and he seems to be verging on some personal unpleasantness by calling someone "just a run-of-the-mill motorsport editor". At the very least, his behaviour so far shows a massive violation of WP:AGF. Thoughts? Bretonbanquet (talk) 21:54, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I've adding my oppose. You don't have to argue with anyone on a WP:RM, I always say - just put your case, prefixed with oppose or support - WP:DNFTT  Ron h jones (Talk) 23:13, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Makes sense. On reading it, I immediately thought about wading in and adding to the drama, but I'm glad I didn't go any further than I did. Thanks for your input, much appreciated. Cheers, Bretonbanquet (talk) 23:46, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

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MRINetwork and MRI Network
After MRI Network was protected after numerous attempts at creation of a copyvio, an article was created by User:Picturethatgo at MRINetwork. I am unable to view who created the first three articles; can you please check and see if block evasion is a factor? Thanks! VQuakr (talk) 05:23, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * All created by User:Satobob and all were copyvios - user is not blocked (doesn't mean he might not be socking though.) Just to be sure I've salted that article as well.  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:46, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Mojang protection
Hey there, Ron. A user at WP:RFPP has requested removal of the semiprotection from Mojang and replacing it with pending changes. I would actually like to go a step further and try unprotecting the article for a while, then adding pending changes only if the unprotection doesn't work out. I was just wondering if you had any objections to either of these options. Thanks. --Bongwarrior (talk) 05:28, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * No. The vandalism at that time was very intense and all different IPs (though I would suspect some re-booting of routers was also going on). Hopefully it can be unprotected and left to its own devices without incident.  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:40, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll try unprotection first and keep an eye on it in case there are still problems. --Bongwarrior (talk) 00:29, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, I've put it back in my watch-list as well.  Ron h jones (Talk) 00:35, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Likya Teknoloji
Thank you for deleting this one, you don't know the trouble we went through on [ircs://holmes.freenode.net/wikipedia-en-help #wikipedia-en-help], trying to explain the concepts of notability and reliable sources and the fact that Wikipedia is not for advertising, which all ended up on death ear of course. --wintonian <font color="LightSteelBlue">talk  00:26, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Quite an obvious copyright violation.  Ron h jones (Talk) 00:28, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

I completely reject this kind of approach to my stuation. I do not have much time to try to explain that i am not violating any of the copyright rules of wiki. Let me say some words to you wintonian, your words are unacceptable and impolite !. Sorry for the trouble of me last night, but you should better be kind enough to understand, unfortunately it is too much for you. User talk:serkan


 * Copying data from any web page is strictly not allowed unless the processes at WP:DCM have been carried out.  Ron h jones (Talk) 13:58, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I am  the owner of the company, and i my self had put the data to that web site. What right of copy you are looking for ?

User talk:serkan
 * YOU have to prove it, anyone could say that. That's what WP:DCM is for - you have to formally release the copyright to allow it to be used in Wikipedia.  Ron h jones (Talk) 14:47, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

thanks for the heads up
on those Henry Moore pictures. I am surprised that they are even around any moore. They were left over from my editing many years ago, and while I could argue that my daughters are the focus of the Princeton one, there is no reason for them to be on wikipedia. Yet. The others seem to me to be clear copyright violations since they were taken in the US. But I am in Phoenix, Arizona now where my father is dying, putting together a pseudo wikipedia article on him that might appear on my user page soonish. There might be some interesting copyright issues regarding some pictures of him, so stay tuned. He does not have a computer in his home, so I am doing any WWW stuff on a catch-as-catch-can basis. Life. Who knew? Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 15:02, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * No idea how long they will last - the bot only places a flag on the page. I suppose someone will review and decide if the bot is correct.  Ron h jones (Talk) 21:46, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

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Hi, nice to meet you, Cs-wolves told me to come here. See, it's the first time I encounter this problem: a guy is constantly reverting me on 2 articles. I went to his talkpage to talk things out, but his reason for reverting my referenced edits is nonsense, as it is very relevant to the articles. To be honest, I really don't understand the reason he gave me on his talkpage. As I reverted him 2 times while each time going to his talkpage, for the first time since I edit here I ask an admin to step in. I mean, I don't want to argue further with him, it's the first time that happens, I'm not here to create drama, I'm here to edit. The "revert wars" are here and here. (along with the guy's name :P) I guess you be the judge what's better, but his reverting seems to be downright blanking as they are referenced. Mattaidepikiw  (Talk)  21:07, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Since he is removing reference data - I would add it back, with a good edit summary (something along the lines of - would put the ball in his court. Wikipedia is verifiability not truth WP:NOTTRUTH. If it's removed again then I would suggest WP:DR - and since there are just two of you, then I think WP:THIRD would be the ideal route to pursue.  Ron h jones (Talk) 21:25, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that, it'll help :) Mattaidepikiw   (Talk)  21:45, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Aaaaannnnd he reverted me again and again despite the edit summary and not responding to my last message on his talk page. It's getting frustrating to say the least. What's the point of taking time to edit if that can happen? The edits carry no biases whatsoever. Pffff. I think I'll just let it go. Sad because that was a big event for both subjects. Mattaidepikiw   (Talk)  23:22, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Negative unreferenced data was then added to both articles - edits have been rolled back and warnings placed.  Ron h jones (Talk) 14:33, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for stepping in! Mattaidepikiw   (Talk)  16:40, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * It is very appreciated, I understand it must be a pain to settle disputes, even if in my case, the references were enough to kill a horse. I mean, you can't be an expert in everything, in this case cycling, but thanks for looking into it. I edit almost exclusively in cycling. I gorge on wheels and chains lol. You're the first admin I came across in a year, so I'll keep your number if you don't mind. I was discouraged and you kept me going. Thanks, feel free to answer. Mattaidepikiw   (Talk)  06:40, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I always think it's an admin's first role to assist and point users to the various policies, guidelines, help pages, etc., and only intervene when the user tries to sort it out, but has failed due to actions beyond his/her control. Cycling is not quite my thing - the country lanes around here are just wide enough for two cars to pass (both doing 50+ of course) without their mirrors touching... add a bicycle and...  I've seen about 6 bicycles this year with a common factor - obvious fear' in their faces.  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:29, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Advice needed
Hi Ron, I came across this personal photo: File:Jeffrey Smith swing.jpg in a BLP and I question its authenticity. It was submitted by the creator of an article designed to discredit a consumer activist that Monsanto doesn't like. Is there anyway to challenge this photo? Many thanks! --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — <b style= "color:#090;">Keithbob</b> • Talk  • 22:57, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The is some bad info in that article - I do wander what is correct and what is not. I've removed ref 32 (www.mum.edu/pdf_yearbooks/1978.pdf) - that was attached to - there's nothing about him at all in the PDF. The first book listed had a wrong ISBN number - it linked to a different book, I've fixed it. As far as I can see - http://whois.domaintools.com/swingsmith.com (swingsmith.com from the dance web site) links to an address at seedofdeception.com which could be OK (same as book name), but why has that address got 73 domains...? I do wonder if Jeffrey Smith (swing) = Jeffrey M. Smith... Maybe post something at Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard?  Ron h jones (Talk) 01:36, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Ron, Thanks for your input and help. I've always found you to be cooperative and fair. It seems that the person's email address is associated with 73 domains rather than the SOD web page. Still that's a lot I guess. As I'm going through the sources I'm finding a lot of misuse and I'm documenting it on the talk page. However, I came to your page because I know you are a sort of expert on images and photos. This photo  was submitted by the article's creator and is listed as his/her "own work". It looks like a professional photo with strange coloring, either its really old or it looks like it was taken from a magazine or something.  I'm trying to assume good faith but after seeing the misuse of sources etc. I'm starting to have doubts. Is there any way to challenge it? Or do we just accept that this editor is a dance fan, was at this event, knows who Jeffrey H. Smith is and took the photo him/herself? Just wondering what the protocol is here? Do you still suggest BLPN? --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — <b style= "color:#090;">Keithbob</b> •  Talk  • 18:00, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I got nothing when I did a Google Image search or with TinEyE. User has uploaded 6 images to commons - I've tracked two down to copyvios (and tagged). On full view of the image in question there is an odd white border to right and below image - I've nominated for deletion on that basis it looks like a magazine scan.  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:46, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
 * See you know all this media stuff which just confuses the heck out of me :-) Thanks for your help. It seems this additonal image   by the same user (CianagroEruman) was lifted from this website .  Also.............Could you also check this photo?  Its from the same article (submitted by a different user). This photo was published in one of the sources in the article. The photo can be seen on the web here. Thanks again. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — <b style= "color:#090;">Keithbob</b> •  Talk  • 22:04, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh well done that man! - now see the page... commons:User_talk:CinagroErunam. I also added a another comment on the deletion request page, to point out the many blatant copyvios by the uploader.  Ron h jones (Talk) 22:56, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Nice work my friend :-) On Dec 12th two new photos were uploaded(here  and here  ) by a new user who seems to be on the other side of the fence (they have been deleting sourced content from the article) It could be the subject or a supporter but I'm just guessing. In any case, these two new photos are version of a photo found on the subject's web site  So it looks like another copy vio. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — <b style= "color:#090;">Keithbob</b> •  Talk  • 21:07, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Have a look at commons:User talk:Reviewer12  Ron h jones (Talk) 23:03, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

File:Kumasi highstreet (shopping street) – Panoramic view.jpg
You tagged this image as a copyvio of http://journalistcalle.blogspot.co.uk/2010_12_01_archive.html, but I couldn't see it on that page. Would you please restore the tag and either fix the link or specify where on that page the image is found? Nyttend (talk) 23:27, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
 * About 3/4 down in section "Kumasi" - data added to page  Ron h jones (Talk) 23:31, 13 December 2012 (UTC)


 * The image is not a copyvio of the website http://journalistcalle.blogspot.co.uk/2010_12_01_archive.html, the website has copied the picture from wikimedia commons in December 2010, and not the other-way round. The image File:Kumasi highstreet (shopping street) – Panoramic view.jpg is a derivative work of File:Kumasi, Ghana.jpg which was uploaded two (2) years before on 18 March 2008. I'am reloading the image File:Kumasi highstreet (shopping street) – Panoramic view.jpg because it was obviously mistakenly deleted. MarkMysoe (talk) 05:51, 14 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Had it been marked up as a derivative (as of course it should have done under the license), then it would not have been checked. Looks like Google Image search is good for identical images, but as the image becomes only a portion of the original, then it tends miss some matches.  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:32, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

File:Irina Berezina, Khanty-Mansiysk, Nov 2012.jpg
Hi Ron,

Thank you for your comments regarding the copyright requirements for the image of Irina Berezina (Irina Berezina, Khanty-Mansiysk, Nov 2012.jpg). I must admit that copyright consent is an area I must learn much more about.

I have submitted the Declaration of Consent, together with the details of the official representative from the 2012 FIDE World Chess Championship (ie the Copyright Owner) who provided the consent, to permissions-en AT wikimedia.org. I have cc'd the email to the World Chess Championship Organizing Committee for thier verification, if required.

Both the 2012 FIDE World Chess Championship Organizing Committee, and Irina Berezina herself, provided permission by email for the photo image to by used. Perhaps there are further steps I can take in future to prove that such permission has been provided?

Your advice is appreciated, and you are welcome to reply either here, to my Talk page, or by email to gbekker@capitaltransport.com.au.

Many thanks for your assistance, Gary :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Garybekker (talk • contribs) 03:02, 14 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Once you contact OTRS at the e-mail address, then they (or even me there) will help you through the process and tell you exactly what is required. And I see an OTRS ticket on the image already. Once you upload an image like these, which do need a release, just make sure that you add OTRS pending on the image page - that really gives you 30 days to get the permission sorted out, and queues sometime get long at OTRS, but never that long.  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:38, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

File:Photo of Priya Basil, 2012.jpg
Hi, Ron!

Thank you for checking Priya`s foto, which I uploaded. I would like to apologize - this file was the first one I put on Wikipedia. I`ve written to Carsten Colmorgen, who is the director of the Concorde Hotel, which staged Basil`s reading, and the copyright holder. I hope, he`ll send the declaration of consent soon. Thanks again Matt (atonement100) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atonement100 (talk • contribs) 06:33, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * If you have not read WP:DCM - please do so. I've changed the notice to OTRS pending for you. That gets you 30 days to get OTRS to add a ticket.  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:40, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Daniel Caverzaschi‎
I see you declined the speedy deletion of the above article via WP:G7 with the edit summary not added by author. But an article can be deleted via WP:G7 if the author who added the only substantial content has requested deletion by blanking the page which he did (so I tag it), so would you care to explain why you didn't delete. Regards ★☆ <font color="Green">DUCK IS <font color="Green">PEANUTBUTTER ☆★ 15:34, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Because of the text added "This person's article is not notable enough at the moment, this article should be removed." and next edit - "Jim1138 (Undid revision 528108812 by Rainad (talk) rv will suggest AfD)". It's clear that the author thinks it might not be notable - however Jim1138 does not agree and has asked for AfD instead - I need no reason not to allow that request to proceed. It won't harm anyone to wait for a week. The author might be surprised with a keep...  Ron h jones (Talk) 15:48, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Your reasoning here is perfectly fine & I accept it. But it is far different from what your edit summary stated, as I was perfectly entitled to tag given the blanking, which I've done in the past & the article has been deleted. I'm not having a go, please don't take it that way but it would be fair to say your edit summary was misleading & it may have been best to send me message in this circumstance when your declined. Anyway have a good weekend. &#9733;&#9734; <font color="Green">DUCK IS <font color="Green">PEANUTBUTTER &#9734;&#9733; 16:06, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, but it wasn't actually blanked when you added the notice - that blanking was several edits before.  Ron h jones (Talk) 17:44, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Reason for Delete and request to undo.
Articles_for_creation/Michael_Schulman 68.4.162.60 (talk) 20:30, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The author blanked it - I assume because it was in the wrong place! It now exits in the correct place Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Michael Schulman  Ron h jones (Talk) 21:06, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Help, please...
Please have a look at this guy's edit history, he's being VERY disruptive: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Just_searching77 -- Thanks, =//= Johnny Squeaky 01:24, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Given a final warning - next time...  Ron h jones (Talk) 01:33, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't think that did much good, he's on some kind of "mission" / "crusade" with his subject (see changes on the 17th / 18th). Also, he reverted my User Page and Talk Page to previous versions. I don't mind people adding content to my Talk Page, that's what it's for, but I don't think people should be reverting versions of my User Page... By the way, I really have no other contact with this guy other than some relevant additions to a few articles about Ajmal Kasab, he's never written me any messages on my Talk Page or engaged me in discussion otherwise. I don't know... (he is also using IP 101.63.29.194) =//= Johnny Squeaky 16:11, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The user page is for your use, he may post a talk at the talk page, anything else is vandalism - now indef blocked.  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:04, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of File:MTT Bedford 249.jpg
Hi Ronhjones,

The image in question WAS taken by me. I understand your logic for adding a speedy deletion tag to my image, however; I had forgotten to add links to my external usage of the image, so it would be common courtesy next time to post on my talk page regarding the matter PRIOR to adding a tag. A simple cross-reference with me would have been enough.

Regards, Hothguard11 (talk) 04:03, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
 * If it was posted outside of Wikipedia before uploading here, you will still have to go through the process of WP:DCM - we cannot prove who you are by any other method - anyone can copy a web image (and more than plenty do so) and claim it's their own. In anticipation of you providing such permission I will add an OTRS pending to it, that will give you 30 days.  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:08, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

AdamCrownTalent
Hi Ron,

I was hoping you might be able to take a look at a user, AdamCrownTalent, or me. I've noticed some unusual activity from his account, which I think is advocacy. I suspect that it is an account created by a talent management company or some such. His edits have mostly been limited to the Max Chilton, and highlights include: I'm not not sure what, if anything, can be done about this, but it appears that the account was created purely to edit the Wikipedia articles of certain people and present them in a highly-positive light. At the very least, AdamCrownTalent's edits fail the gudielines set out by biographies of living persons. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 21:43, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Adding a non-free image
 * Deleting content en masse (some of it wasn't particularly well-written to begin with, but the user seems to have removed anything that appears to criticise Chilton's performances), and
 * Wording that makes the article read like an advertisement, such as "On 18th December 2012, at the age of 21, Chilton was announced as a race driver for Marussia f1 team in the 2013 formula 1 world championship, marking him out as a rising British talent on the circuit."
 * Just keep and eye open. It's not really vandalism at present, maybe just a new editor feeling his way. He removed a dead link, but I've seen plenty of new editors do that - I've repaired the link and put it in an appropriate place. That image File:Press shot 1212.JPG is on commons as a free image - I cannot find an image match with any of my tools, I have to assume that it is free - I agree the name sounds like it's not free - maybe he's a pro photographer and took it at some press call, but is only going to use it here - that's perfectly allowed - if he uploads it here first then it can never be a copyright violation, no matter whereelse he uses it in future.  Ron h jones (Talk) 22:22, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Rajiv B Lall Article
This is regarding Rajiv B Lall Article that has been deleted due to copyright issues.

This is the inform that I have a valid permission to upload the article.

The article was given by Parminder Panesar – Sr. VP Corporate Communication – IDFC Email: PARMINDER.PANESAR@IDFC.COM] Appointed representative of, IDFC

I am new to wikipedia article upload so I have not added the permission.

I am also sending a mail to permissions-en@wikimedia.org with the article to be update on wikipedia.

Riteverses (talk) 03:25, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Once OTRS has verified the permission then they can undelete the image.  Ron h jones (Talk) 02:25, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Proposed merges post
You posted to Proposed mergers, saying that an article was a "reported fork" and gave an OTRS number. I don't know what a reported fork is and, like most editors, can't see the OTRS stuff (even if I could, you didn't even make it a link). Please post an explanation as to what is happening here. Ego White Tray (talk) 04:36, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Just a wp:fork, reported at OTRS - It won't hurt to copy a bit of the message The page " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012-13_Red_Bull_%27A%27_Division_League " is a duplicate and less informative page then the page "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyr%27s_Memorial_A-Division_League".  Ron h jones (Talk) 02:31, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

aasmund esval photo's
The photo's are of aasmund esval paintings that I own that were giving to me by the artist. I own the copyright to the paintings. Let me know if there is something else that I need to do.

Kesval (talk) 17:25, 19 December 2012 (UTC) Kevin Esval

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 * If an artist just gave you the paintings, he did not give you the copyright - that is always his unless he formally hands that over. If he has done so, we need to see the evidence of that copyright transfer.  Ron h jones (Talk) 02:34, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

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Deletion of File:Omelan_Pleszkewycz.jpg
I don't understand why this is marked for deletion. It's a picture I scanned of my grandfather, a photo among many others of the family I got, after he died. I don't know who took it - an uncle or other family member perhaps - and it will never be known (there is no note indicating who took it). So such images aren't allowed on wikipedia?Pelmeni (talk) 06:24, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I have no control over what you wrote when you uploaded the image - I can only go on what is presented to me. It says "Source - Given to me by the subject of the picture." and "Permission - Evidence: Will be provided on request.". Thus we need to see the permission or correct the data. You did not state any relationship, so we cannot assume you have inherited the copyright. This photo was taken in the 1950s you said - by who? - the person who took the photo owns the copyright, not the subject of the picture. If it was taken by a family member, and you have inherited from that member, then it's likely you own the copyright (the photo is too young to be copyright free) and we can then alter the image data - if that is the case then let me know and I will alter it for you.  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:52, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. I have no idea who took the picture in the 1950s. It may have been a relative.  It was given to me along with many other old photos. I cannot exclude that iot wasn't taken byu someone else, but there is nothing about any copyright or studio on the back of the picture so I assume it was taken by someone else in the family, or a friend. The person who took the picture is likely no longer around and my grandfather isn't around to say who took it (and if he were, I doubt he would remember - this was from the 50's). It's a random family picture but a nice one of this person.Pelmeni (talk) 01:33, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The main question is then are you the actual beneficiary of those photographs? Then one can presume you probably have the copyright. Or was someone else the beneficiary (older brother, uncle, etc.) and they just gave you a copy to keep?  Ron h jones (Talk) 02:24, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Grandfather lived with my dad in his last years; after he died I was asked which old photos did I want to have for myself and this is one of the ones I got. This isn't a copy of a photo that somebody else owns.Pelmeni (talk) 03:39, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * My guess is that you probably do own the copyright as a direct descendant. I see you have e-mailed OTRS - that is probably the best solution - it will stop any further tagging of the image.  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:51, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks!Pelmeni (talk) 20:57, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of Advice Polack
G'day Ron, regarding your deletion of this article, please see User talk:The Blade of the Northern Lights and User talk:John Vandenberg (and the sections which follow). I would appreciate it if you undeleted this article, and sent it to AFD if you are convinced it is problematic. Cheers, John Vandenberg (chat) 03:40, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I see The Blade of the Northern Lights has undeleted it anyway - fine, but the end of the first paragraph is still a racist slur which is unreferenced.  Ron h jones (Talk) 02:27, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * It was referenced in the body of the article. John Vandenberg (chat) 03:27, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Then why has someone else put "[citation needed]" by that statement? I don't see many reliable sources...  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:14, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

British Chess Magazine
Hi Ron,

I am co-editor and photographer for the British Chess Magazine. In fact, also the IT Manager.

I have come to the conclusion that I do not understand how to publish images that I have created.

I keep seeing messages telling me that my own material is not publishable.

Can you give a very simple instruction on what I am doing wrong please?

I have uploaded the October 2012 cover of the magazine: in simple, non-jargon terms what have I done wrong and what do I need to correct?

Best Regards,

Dr. John Upham, British Chess Magazine — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeupham (talk • contribs) 15:41, 20 December 2012 (UTC)


 * All editing in Wikipedia if effectively anonymous - be it as an IP or logged in user. There is no way within the Wikipedia system that shows who a user is - unless they care to say on their user page (and that could be false). If a user uploads an image, never seen before, and they claim to own the copyright - then we have no reason to disbelieve them. If a user uploads an image that is found elsewhere before uploading to Wikipedia - then how can we tell if it's the uploader's image or he's just copied it off the web page? - we cannot (and far too many people do copy off of web pages...!), so we need more evidence of ownership (see below). That takes care of "normal" photographs. When we move on to book covers / posters / album covers, then we hit more problems as these are now copies of existing 2D images - e.g. a Poster could have parts of various photos (different photographers), original artwork (cartoonists, etc.). The owner of such posters may own the copyright of all the elements or he may just have a license to use those images for his application, with the original photographer still holding the main copyright. That is further complicated by the fact that all free images have, at worse, CC-BY-SA license - this allows derivatives and full commercial use, so for example, a poster on Wikipedia that had a photo of a person could be used to crop out that image (a derivative), and then legally sold (commercial) - and all the original photographer gets is a small mention of who took the picture.
 * Your options... (see also WP:DCM)
 * Fill and send in the form at commons:Commons:Email_templates/Consent quoting the urls of all your images, to the e-mail address shown on that page - you will get a ticket number applied to each image - you can also (later) ask for the same license ticket to be applied for subsequent images uploaded.  OR
 * If the images of the covers are on the web - then add a CC-BY or CC-BY-SA license box from http://creativecommons.org/choose/ onto that web page to show the image is released under that license.
 * Either option declares that you own all the copyright(s) of the image - only you can decide if that's true - and that you are allowing commercial re-use.
 * You could alternatively go for non-free use, with Non-free book cover and a WP:FURG - but I guess you could really only use one per article, and it might get deleted if there is an image of a living person which is not that small. The non free image would also have to be about 300px wide max, and low resolution.  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:45, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Request To Help Creating An Article
Hi there, I am about to create an article on english wikipedia about the Asean India Association. So that I have uploaded a logo, the logo is official and public usable, many other sites are using this logo. Can you permit me to use the logo to create the article Asean India, many information are there which I can contribute to this article. So when you come from your holiday please help me creating an large article. Priyanku (talk) 12:13, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The logo may be in Public view on the web page - but it's not there for Public Re-use. The web page shows quite clearly . "All Rights Reserved" images cannot be used in Wikipedia - Wikipedia allow for full commercial re-use of all images. Suggest you change it to a non free image with a non-free logo and a WP:FURG  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:56, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Okay, Thanks for your help, understanding me about the copyright of images from a website. now can i create the article without a logo, so that further i ask the association to grant or donate their logo to the english wikipedia. Priyanku (talk) 06:50 21 Dec 2012 (North east India time zone) —Preceding undated comment added 13:23, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
Lock the Mesoamerican long count calendar until the Bloody 2012 doomsday balderdsh is over. Senor Cuete (talk) 02:06, 21 December 2012 (UTC)Senor Cuete
 * OK  Ron h jones (Talk) 02:12, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks but it's not coming up as locked??? Senor Cuete (talk) 02:18, 21 December 2012 (UTC)Senor cuete
 * OK I see: no lock icon but when I bring up an edit page there's a red warning about only autoconfirmred users. Thank so much. Senor Cuete (talk) 02:20, 21 December 2012 (UTC)Senor Cuete
 * I forgot the padlock (it was 2am!) - it's just a guide, it's not necessary to lock the page  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:54, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Ho ho ho
I do believe that this card explains a lot of the hitherto misunderstood and even ignored origins of a variety of Christmas stories. I am considering writing an article about the theology involved but am having a difficult time with sources. Oh well, have a good one, it does appear that we have made it through the worst of 2012, which is a great start to 2013 Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 16:08, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * LOL. Like it. Let's hope 2013 is better than 2012 in many ways - less rain would be nice, this must be getting on for the wettest year on record for the UK.  Ron h jones (Talk) 17:11, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * And in New Mexico it brought us near drought. Too bad that we can't work something out. Carptrash (talk) 20:50, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Rather a long pipeline, I feel. Good challenge for some engineer! ;-) Maybe better to concentrate on how to make sure the jet stream always goes north of the UK (and takes all the rain away), rather than being stuck over northern France. Ron h jones (Talk) 21:01, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Good idea. blame it on the French. Here in the USA we manage to blame much of our bad weather on Canada. Certainly the cold blast that we just got is their fault. Carptrash (talk) 21:06, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Vandalalism in the Karnataka article
Dear Ron, earlier on 30th October, I had left this message for you: (:Hi Sir, there is once again vandalism first by user 69.112.23.166 in two articles Satyasraya and Veera Ballala II articles. Now I strongly suspect he is logging from a different computer showing a different IP address as 69.112.22.179 and is posing as a different user but is indulging in the same kind of vandalism. He is reverting my edits without any discussion. This is for your information. Kindly treat this as a complaint against both these anonymous users. Also, without discussion Pied hornbill is reverting my contributions to the Karnataka article despite reasons given and excerpts from reliable sources quoted by me in the talk page of that article. Pls. intervene on that issue also.)

The Karnataka article was semi-protected for a month thereafter (probably by you or thebestofall007) along with the Satyasraya and Veera Ballala II articles. Now, the semi-protection has been removed (ostensibly, on the presumption that Pied hornbill and other will not resort to unauthorized reversion of edits, that too without initiating any discussion etc. Now as I myself saw the Karnataka page after more than a month, I noticed that this user has reverted that very portion which I had contributed to the article. Possibly, this and(/or) another user had been reported to the admins, but requests to him even on the talk page of the article for discussions before resorting to reversion of edits have had no impact on him. I have reported the matter to thebestofall007 also. Can you intervene so that order is restored. Many thanks in advance. You can reply to me on my talk pageSrirangam99 (talk) 10:58, 7 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Since you are both logged in editors, there no point in adding semi-protection. I can only refer you to Dispute resolution, if he chooses not to discuss then those who help there can make their own conclusions.  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:54, 7 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi Ron, I left several messages on Pied Hornbill's talk page asking him to discuss. I have no problems if you refer both of us to Wikipedia dispute resolution. Srirangam99 (talk) 11:05, 9 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Since there is just the two of you - I suggest you request an independent third opinion at Third_opinion - you should get help with someone who is completely unbiased, and will make a rational decision based on the arguments.  Ron h jones (Talk) 14:23, 9 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Sir, greetings and wish you a Merry Christmas. Today we in India also celebrated an important but a bit less known festival of Vaikuntha Ekadashi - in which worship of the Hindu God Vishnu is performed. Anyways, that's it about the festivities.


 * Now another user with just an IP address i.e. ‎69.115.128.246 is again reverting my edits to the Veera Ballala II and Satyasraya articles. Earlier also, there was another vandal using two IP addresses who was vandalizing articles in which I have contributed. I do not want to request for semi-protection as I am not afraid of them, but such elements are disturbing the direction which articles have to take with contribution from various wikipedians, including newbies like me. I for one, do not claim I am perfect, but I am always very open to discussions about veracity of information, reliable sources quoted by us etc. These guys simply revert without giving us notice for discussions, that is the problem. You may reply on my talk page. Many thanks in advance.Srirangam99 (talk) 16:24, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Same old articles, yet another IP hopping vandal. Semi-protected again, let them discuss on the talk page as they are unable to provide any real rationale otherwise.  Ron h jones (Talk) 17:16, 24 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Many thanks for your help. I noticed just now, the same IP/user has also vandalized the Western Chalukya Empire article. I usually do not recommend this action, but considering his/its resorting to unauthorized reversions and more importantly, not discussing edits or content, I think in order to preserve sanctity of the articles and letting meaningful edits remain, this user deserves to be blocked. Of course Ron, you can decide what is best.Srirangam99 (talk) 17:43, 25 December 2012 (UTC)


 * The IP is not so active there, we'll leave that for now. He may be more active when he can't get at the other articles - let's wait and see.  Ron h jones (Talk) 22:31, 25 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your response. It seems this I.P.'s basic interest lies in my edits to articles related to the State of Karnataka in India, and of articles related to kingdoms and dynasties/kings from that area. All he does is simply reverts my edits (with just a silly comment - reverted vandal) This he did around 3-4 times in the Vikramaditya VI article, where I have just restored the page to the status where it was before his unauthorized reverts.Srirangam99 (talk) 04:18, 26 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I've blocked that IP - be warned, he may well switch addresses.  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:54, 26 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah I know the ways of these vandals. But I guess there nothing more we can do except make sincere efforts to protect sanctity of articles which are nothing but results of the sincere efforts of scores of contributors. Nothing's perfect, I suppose. Just for info, his earlier I.P. proxy probably was 69.112.23.166,logging from where he caused commotion in the same article and using the same comment 'reverted vandal'.Srirangam99 (talk) 13:58, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

File:Traffic on Federal Route 22 near Tamparuli.JPG
Hello.

I refer to the photograph that I have uploaded above. I have noticed that you have added the watermark tag onto the file description page. I would like to inform you that my camera (which I used to take this photograph) does not add watermarks to photographs, nor do I have any clue on how to add them. If you are referring to the date and time on the lower right corner which is easily seen, it's because my camera automatically prints out the date and time according to it's settings, but I don't think it qualifies as a watermark nor as credits. Can you please clarify? Thanks. Pizza1016 (talk &#124; contribs &#124; uploads &#124; logs) 03:43, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * We would still call it a watermark - it not part of the image, it's been added to the image - in this case by the camera - don't worry someone will take it out (eventually!)  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:35, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * OK then. Pizza1016 (talk &#124; contribs &#124; uploads &#124; logs) 00:12, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks
I uaed the table as you edited it. There is still a structural error.1archie99 (talk) 06:47, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Fixed it. I think the problem comes from you using long hyphens in the table, and I think the wiki syntax needs standard hyphens, hence when I added the bar and short hyphen it made the new line. Sometimes better to use  and   when you don't want a standard short hyphen.  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:48, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

user request
I removed the prod from Jack Moule because  since notability as a national champion is pretty clear, this would require consensus at AfD. I could send it there, but since I would oppose deletion, my nominating it might cause confusion. If you think it should be deleted, it would be better for you to be the one to nominate it.  DGG ( talk ) 02:26, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Not up to me - I'll have to talk to the subject as OTRS - he wants it deleted.  Ron h jones (Talk) 18:46, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Quality Rating
The talk page does have a quality rating. It is class=B. I've put it on the page myself, removed it, put it back, confirmed it each time, yet the article will not de-categorize. On getting your message, I checked the history - none of my edits are there. This is very weird; I checked and rechecked several times! Anyway I did it once again, and now it has worked. Thank you. kcylsnavS 19:30, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Maybe some weird server bug didn't cause you edit to sync with the main Florida server. We will never know...  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:38, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Article's creator
But the first edit was a redirect, and the next was a move. The history doesn't identify it as a page creation. Am I missing something? Isn't there a "former" page? kcylsnavS 00:22, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

I'm looking for an opinion
I've been corresponding with an artist and had this exchange:
 * "I wrote: "Thirdly, it is my understanding that as the creating artist you own the copyrights to images of the monument.  I have taken a series of pictures during my visits to Glendale and would like to use those.  I am very comfortable showing these to you as part of the getting permission process."


 * The artist, Joe Tyler replied: "As far as pictures go, I feel that the memorial belongs to all who see it and I have no problem with you sharing the images."

Is this enough permission to use my pictures of his work? I have started the article here and wanted to add a picture, but decided to run it past you first. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 01:59, 30 December 2012 (UTC)


 * It's a good start (I do wish the US would have a FoP like my country...), why not forward it to me at OTRS - make sure the e-mail adresses are included. Maybe we can firm up the permission that way. The main problem we have, is that I see a lot of these and when I tell the creator that the Wikipedia image can be used for any purpose, including commercial - they get cold feet. Send to info-en AT wikimedia DOT org (tidy that up... stops the spammers) and put my name at top. Let me know here and I will go and look for it.  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:03, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Got it. It's mine  Ron h jones (Talk) 21:27, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
 * That should take it to the next stage. Perhaps I should have mentioned before that I would like this release to function for a bunch of pictures.  The memorial in question is a complicated one with a lot of parts to it. Carptrash (talk) 21:40, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
 * See how he goes with the first one, you can then just ask to agree to the rest in the same way.  Ron h jones (Talk) 22:16, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. Carptrash (talk) 22:31, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

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Manulife Financial article edits
Many thanks for your help and instructions regarding the copyrighted images on the Manulife article. We are currently working on a solution to be able to have the images included in the article. While we work on the solution, would it be possible for you to please consider making our text edits requested on the article? Please reply on Talk:Manulife Financial. Thank you Jcsmg (talk) 15:37, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

username-change request: MCT Susan --> SusanYoo -->MediaMaven
Hi there,

I believe my Username (MCT Susan) has not been changed, as per your approval of my name-change request.

I think the easiest way to see what I mean is to visit MCT Susan's talk page?

You'd advised me to post on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CHU.

I believe this page ultimately sends me to post to this User rename log: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/renameuser.

I only understood today that this might be where I need to post your approval.

As far as I can tell, the MCT Susan username has not yet been changed to SusanYoo.

One complication -- I would like to use a pseudonym now, instead of my real name. I came across a warning while researching this process, that using your real name can result in harassment.

Therefore, I'd like to change my username to MediaMaven.

I've posted an request to that effect on my User talk page (for MCT Susan).

Can you please let me know if there's anything else I need to do? And if not, when I can start operating with my new Username?

Thank you very much for any (more) assistance you can provide. You've already been very helpful. I will now research COI guidelines, to see if I can get an unbiased article on MCT, with good sources, posted somehow. I know a lot of people have looked up this news agency online, and because it is used by close to 600 newspapers in the U.S. and abroad, I think it would be helpful to the public if Wikipedia includes the article.

Happy New Year!

Best, Susan Yoo (aka, I hope!, MediaMaven)

p.s. can you please reply on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MCT_Susan? I'm worried that if you reply here, I won't receive an e-mail, and I won't know you've replied.


 * Replied  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:49, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

New message from Media Maven, Jan. 3, 2013
Hi Ronhjones!

Thanks again for helping me changing my username yesterday -- much appreciated!

I've created this article and am awaiting review:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/MCT

Can you please take a look at it and tell me what you think?

Thanks for helping me get started!

Best, Media Maven (talk) 21:21, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

p.s. can you please reply on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Media_Maven?

Category:Wikipedia users who oppose Flagged Revisions
Category:Wikipedia users who oppose Flagged Revisions, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. CT Cooper · &#32;talk 21:39, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Name Change
Thanks, Ron, but there are user contributions under the old name. I can see them at Special:Contributions/Svanslyck. RiverStyx23 15:02, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * See Chu Item 2.  Ron h jones (Talk) 20:02, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Maybe another admin can help? This issue is post-move contributions made in error, not the ones that were moved during the rename. Thanks. RiverStyx23 23:16, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Not admins, there's no tool for us to use - you may have to go the the bureaucrat that did the account move.  Ron h jones (Talk) 23:18, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Thank you for your help; I know admin-ing can be a thankless job at times. RiverStyx23 23:42, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

More false info posted on our wiki user page georockgal
User:Georockgal/Delta Psi Delta (Canada) Hi there, you recently responded to an email I had sent concerning false information being posted on out user page georockgal delta psi delta. This was your response: -it's easy to add standard warnings and revert vandals at the same time) or just let me know here or at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ronhjones

While I am learning how to add standard warning I was hoping you could address the issue of more incorrect edits. Under our history this was stated: Delta Psi Delta, is a Canadian National Sorority that has three active chapters that regularly participate in hazing and one inactive chapter. This information is inaccurate and posted by IP address 99.226.185.230. Same looks like who added incorrect info before.

Here is some more inaccurate info: Delta Psi Delta (nicknamed DpsiD) was founded on September 15, 1991 in Ottawa, Ontario in a classroom within Residence commons at Carleton University. Twelve (12) women who had no moral beliefs or values founded this organization, along with the express support of Sigma Pi Fraternity at Carleton University, who adopted them and helped them receive acceptance with the Ottawa Greek Community. Delta Psi Delta, is a Canadian National Sorority that has three active chapters that regularly participate in hazing and one inactive chapter. Alpha chapter is based in Ottawa, Ontario with members from Carleton University, University of Ottawa and Algonquin College, Gamma Chapter which is based in Toronto, Ontario with members from York University and Ryerson University, and Delta Chapter which is based in London, Ontario with members from University of Western Ontario. The sorority just had it's 20 year Anniversary Celebration in September 2011, in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, where many of its existing members and alumna attended and participated in secret rituals.

This is what is should read: Delta Psi Delta (nicknamed DpsiD) was founded on September 15, 1991 in

Ottawa, Ontario in a classroom within Residence commons at Carleton University. Twelve (12) women

founded this organization, along with the express support of Sigma Pi Fraternity at Carleton University.

Delta Psi Delta, is a Canadian National Sorority that has three active chapters and one inactive.

Alpha chapter is based in Ottawa, Ontario with members from Carleton University, University of Ottawa

and Algonquin College, Gamma Chapter which is based in Toronto, Ontario with members from

York University and Ryerson University, and Delta Chapter which is based in London, Ontario

with members from University of Western Ontario. The sorority just had it's 20 year Anniversary

Celebration in September 2011, in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.

Anyway, we are upset with these revisions, we a hoping that they will stop, ultimately I feel the user posting these edits are trying to get the page removed. We will do that of necessary. There may also be other info that is not accurate,still trying to sort all of this out. I have reverted the information back to its original form. Please respond to my talk page. Thanks! Georockgal (talk) 14:48, 5 January 2013 (UTC) georockgal
 * I see that some of the vandalism has been removed. I've rolled it back to an earlier version to complete it - the easiest way is always to undo the edits or restore an older version, rather than trying to remove bit by bit.  Ron h jones (Talk) 16:46, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, truly appreciate it! Georockgal (talk) 19:53, 5 January 2013 (UTC)georockgal