User talk:Ronhjones/Archive 27

Zoran Dragelj
Zoran75 (talk) 16:17, 24 December 2014 (UTC)Dear Dr. Jones, could you please contact me at zoran75@yahoo.com in regards to a recently deleted page. Greatly appreciated. Happy Holidays, Zoran Dragelj
 * See User:Ronhjones/DeletedPROD, and let me know what you want done. Ron h jones (Talk) 23:43, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Zoran75 (talk) 05:32, 25 December 2014 (UTC)Dear Dr. Jones, it came to my attention that you have deleted my wiki page, Zoran Dragelj. It states that you commented that I am "Not a notable person, page is promotional/operating like his resume". From the info that was posted on that page it was noted that I am well established person in my field of work (both in video/cinema and visual arts) not only in my native Canada but worldwide, as well published and my work is exhibited internationally. All my information is verifiable and well documented. Also in May 2009, I was elected as the first Alumni Association representative on the Emily Carr University Senate. I am currently serving my second term. I would like to share that my films and videos are distributed by La Videotheque Nomade Distribution in Brussels, archived with Europeana, the European Union’s virtual library for the preservations of cultural heritage, archived with GAMA (Gateway to Archives of Media Art) network and is featured in TransMediale’s (Berlin) permanent collection.

I would appreciate if you would help me reinstate my profile as it is keeping everyone working with me informed on all my progress and developments, including all the international galleries, academia, exhibition and lecture halls.

Happy Holidays,

Yours Sincerely,

Zoran

Here is a brief overview of my establishments: Education: 1993-97 Emily Carr Institute of Art & Design, Fine Arts diploma Film & Video 1998 Canadian Cinematography Workshop & Panavision Camera Course;1997 Academy of Canadian Cinema & Television, National Apprenticeship Program; 1993 Ailanthus Performing Center, Don Hunter, CSC Cinematography mentorship; 1992-93 Vancouver Art Gallery, Student Curator Program

Selected Exhibits: 2014 20th Independent Arts Festival, Belgium; 2013 Contemporary Art Festival, Venice; Empty Space Project, Penn Station, NYC;2012 Retrospective, International Multimedia Festival, Myanmar;2011 Retrospective, Kulturhuset, Stockholm;2010 Absence of Art Gallery, Berlin; 2008 Optical Allusions, Pacific Cinematheque;2006 Retrospectives:Brunel University of West London, UK; Vierkante Zaal, Belgium/Holland;2005 Retrospective, Prato Gallery, Florence, Emily Carr Alumni Exhibition 80th Anniversary;2000 Cineworks Twenty Years of Independent Filmmaking in B.C.

Grants/Awards/Scholarships:Canada Council Travel Grant (2014,2008,2005,2001);BC Arts Council Travel Grant (2005);Outreach Program: Canada Council Travel Grant (2004,2000);2002 BravoFACT video grant;1999 National Film Board grant;1997 Cascadia Festival Excellence Award;1996 Joseph Golland Up-and-Coming Filmmaker Award, ACTRA

Curation/Workshops Created:Independent Showcase, toured Europe (2008,2004,2001);Aboriginal Kaleidoscope, toured Europe (2005,2000,1998);1998 Independent production workshop (Chapters), Crofton House School video instructor; 1997 Steveston Art Connection animation instructor; 1992-93 Then & Now, Vancouver Art Gallery

Juries/Panels/Artist Talks:winning artist featurette, Renderyard online (2011,2009); 2011 Emily Carr Grad Show & Degree Exhibition Awards Juror, Saatchi Online Artist panelist;2003 film panelist, 28th Vrnjačka Banja Festival, Serbia;1997 King George Secondary Alumni Drama mentor

Collaborations/Participations:2010-14 Cultch & Ignite Youth Festival;2009-15 Two-term Emily Carr Alumni Senator;1996-97 performance artists Tagny Duff; John G. Boehme; 1995 Judith Marcuse’s The Kiss Project

Selected Press: 2012 Made In Canada documentary: profile; 2005 Gehman & Reinke, The Sharpest Point: Animation at the End of Cinema,YYZ Books; Rosso Fiorentino, Italy; Diario magazine, Flash Art magazine, Italy


 * Restored as a contested PROD. Ron h jones (Talk) 14:45, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Krista Ford
You deleted File:Krista Ford, business student and former captain of the Toronto Triumph, of the Lingerie Football League.jpg. Your deletion log entry says: "deleted page File:Krista Ford, business student and former captain of the Toronto Triumph, of the Lingerie Football League.jpg (File deleted: F7: Violates non-free content criterion #1 (TW))"

OK NFCC#1, that's "No free equivalent. Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available, or could be created, that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose."

I am going to point out that the initial removal of the image from the Krista Ford article came at the height of her father's campaign for Mayor of Toronto. It was removed by an IP contributor, who I suspected was a supporter of her father's campaign.

Sorry, but, on the face of it, a claim that a free equivalent is available or could be created is highly questionable. There was considerable debate, when Ms Ford first tried out for the Lingerie Football League as to whether she would in fact be prepared to don its skimpy uniform if she made the team. She did wear the uniform.

To anyone who is unfamiliar with the uniforms of the league the picture was, IMO, absolutely essential. I don't believe any text description of the uniform could be sufficient.

Further, Ms Ford would later make comments parallel to those of the cop who triggered the world-wide slutwalk movement, saying that, in order to protect their safety, women should dress modestly. The advice seemed to be highly ironic to some commentators, given the uniform she had worn. Pundits commented on the ironic aspect of her advice and I believe this makes making use of this or a similar fair use image worthwhile.

Near as I can determine, there is no discussion on the wiki over whether or not this image was replaceable. I'd like to see it restored.

What do you suggest is the next step? Geo Swan (talk) 13:11, 25 December 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm quite happy to restore it for a full WP:NFCR if you wish - however do note the following points
 * I will have to inform the original nominator - he can be quite tenacious, and is bound to have his say on the review.
 * Personally, I don't think there's much point in restoring, just for an infobox - if you need a non-free image of a living person, then I believe it should be within the article with a critical commentary about the image - but that's just my view.
 * Hope that helps Ron h jones (Talk) 15:00, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:ChristianMann.jpg


A tag has been placed on File:ChristianMann.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an image page for a missing or corrupt image or an empty image description page for a Commons-hosted image.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Stefan2 (talk) 23:34, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Of course it is - I was just fixing it... C'ést la vie...  Ron h jones (Talk) 23:37, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Christy.jpg


A tag has been placed on File:Christy.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an image page for a missing or corrupt image or an empty image description page for a Commons-hosted image.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Stefan2 (talk) 12:09, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Ronhjones, when solving a name conflict in CAT:SHADOW, make sure to follow these steps:
 * Remove ShadowsCommons after the file was moved.
 * Update any page(s) using the old file name.
 * Make sure that there is no redirect behind. The redirect otherwise continues to shadow Commons.
 * Also, due to 61656, Commons Delinker may start doing bad things on Wikipedia if the file is moved or deleted on Commons, making it extra important to fix these problems. The Commons Delinker bug has apparently been known since 2010, but it seems that no one is doing anything about it. --Stefan2 (talk) 12:13, 26 December 2014 (UTC)


 * I was planning that, sadly I got called away. You can't win them all of the time. Ron h jones (Talk) 15:45, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Prod
I was about to deprod University of Florida in popular culture when you deleted it, so to simplify matters I restored it,  I suggested to the ed. who placed the prod that since many such articles have been accepted at afd,   it ought to go there. I would have asked you first had it been more than just an expired prod.  DGG ( talk ) 00:39, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
 * No problem, I'll always restore a deleted PROD when asked anyway. Ron h jones (Talk) 15:47, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

File:Ithihasa-film-poster.jpg
What does this have to do with the deletion rationale? Why do you think that the file satisfies WP:NFCC? In the edit summary, I only see a reference to WP:NFCC, which no one ever questioned. --Stefan2 (talk) 21:55, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
 * WP:NFCC says - does the FURG in file page not say, and link to Ithihasa, as required? Ron h jones (Talk) 22:00, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
 * The FUR is not "presented in clear, plain language and is relevant to each use" as the information isn't relevant to the use. In the purpose parameter to the FUR template, the FUR tells that the image is to be used in an article about the poster, but it is instead used in an article about the film. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:37, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
 * It's clear enough to me The article is Ithihasa therefore "discussion of this work" refers to the article. Maybe your English is different to mine - English is a minefield for grammar - not to mention that US and UK grammar does vary - the poster is about an Indian file, they will use a UK English like me. Ron h jones (Talk) 23:58, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
 * "The article" is Ithihasa, and "the article" is not specifically dedicated as a whole to a discussion of "this work" (the poster). The article is specifically dedicated as a whole to a discussion of a different work (a film). --Stefan2 (talk) 01:44, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
 * It's an article about a film, nearly every film on Wikipedia has the DVD cover or the poster as a non-free image in the infobox - why is this one so different? If you think it's that different then <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 15:49, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Martial arts vandal
has been blocked, if you look at his block log. He resumed his disruptive activity directly after the previous one week block ended. He is currently evading a three month block under a different IP address. Do people who are evading a block really need to be warned? As we speak, he is continuing to edit war across multiple articles, and this is only going to get worse. There really is no point to warning this user, as he been at this for over six years now, and he's not going to stop because someone politely requested it. Just prior to his previous block under this IP address, he has already twice vandalized my own user talk page to remove conversations that discussed his disruptive edits. It's only a matter of time before he goes back and does so again. In fact, I just got another six notification that I've been reverted as I previewed this message. Argh. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:24, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
 * As you say, no point in blocking an IP who knows how to keep switching addresses - semi protected 9 pages - let me now if there are any more vulnerable pages. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 22:51, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
 * It does sort of help in the short term, though. He's on an easily recognizable but unpredictable set of class A IP ranges, and he's inactive until his IP address changes.  This sometimes happens in just a day or two, but it can occasionally last over a week, as in this case.  I initially proposed a range block, which was predictably declined as unfeasible.  I've since been thinking about proposing an edit filter, but it's difficult to come up with one that would prevent his specialized disruption.  I've been reporting him at AIV whenever he pops up; it's a bit frustrating and doesn't accomplish a whole lot, but it keeps the articles at least somewhat stable for a few days between incidents.  Since his M.O. is to target any Hong Kong film or martial artist, it's difficult to predict where he will strike. I'm hoping to eventually come up with a better solution than periodic reports on AIV, but it's the best I've seen so far.  I'm sorry for my rather irritable messages, but this guy is incredibly frustrating to deal with.  He never stops, he never communicates, and he makes just enough non-disruptive edits that he occasionally gets a pass from other users (who don't know his history). NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 23:20, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
 * A range block is really a last resort as you have found. He obviously knows how to get a new IP address - he coming up as "UK Sky Broadband" - Sky run over the BT lines here, so that's just a simple router cold boot to get a new address - also there are so many Sky users that a range block is unfeasible - it will hit too many editors.. I think we are better off with page protection - they do get the message eventually (but you also have to watch for new logged in users, rapidly gaining their 10 edits in 4 days to get autoconfirmed) <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 23:35, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Page protection is certainly a solution, but there are hundreds of articles that he targets. The last time I counted, I had something like 300 martial arts films on my watchlist thanks to this guy.  I'm not sure how to deal with that.  Obviously, the Whac-A-Mole approach isn't a viable long-term solution, as he just keeps cycling through IP addresses; however, I can't see how we can protect hundreds of articles.  Besides the edit filter, another proposal that was floated was to contact his ISP directly.  I have not done this myself, as I lack any kind of VIP credentials.  Maybe we could pester a WMF employee to draft an official-looking letter?  I wouldn't know who to ask, though, as I've never really interacted with any of the WMF people. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 03:15, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I brought it to ANI to hopefully get more input on alternatives to AIV. The thread is: Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents.  I hope that you don't mind the use of a drama board, but I feel as though I'm a bit over my head when it comes to the edit filter, contacting the ISP, etc. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 12:03, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
 * He's going after Way of the Dragon, The Other Guys, Heat (1995 film) and Kung Fu Jungle now. Should I report these to rfpp instead?  I don't want to overwhelm you with incessant page protection requests, but I'm not sure if I can bundle requests there. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 11:58, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * If you got to RFPP they will sit on it as they don't know the history. It takes 10 seconds to semi-protect the page with Twinkle. Lets just go with sending to me - I usually log on once a day in the cold UK days (once we get to March/April I may well vanish at the week ends - let's hope it don't go on that long!). I've blocked 90.197.99.5 for 3 months. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 14:42, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Deleted photo
Hello there.

A photo was deleted from 'Stephen Crowe: composer' page after copyright permission was apparently not received. However Katharina Hornig, photographer and copyright holder sent permission to permissions-en@wikimedia.org on the 18 December 2014. Perhaps something has been overlooked? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr Big Eichelhäher (talk • contribs) 09:54, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
 * If you upload images that need to go through OTRS then you have to add a OTRS pending template, so that it does not get deleted - deletion only takes 7 days, OTRS can take a month. It's been restored and a template added for you. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 16:18, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

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 * Mad bot...! :-) <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 15:58, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Re:Hutchison Global Comm.
I recently tagged "Hutchison Global Communications" for speedy deletion and it appeared as deleted in my Watch List. However, I have a better idea and I want to ask if this is fine: either re-create the page and redirect it to the article Hutchison Whampoa or just briefly mention it in the article Hutchison Whampoa. Which one would you prefer? pcfan500 (talk) 16:02, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Ideally both! (or none). Nothing annoys editors more than selecting a page which is a redirect, and when they get to the target there is nothing there which refers to the page they were looking for. But then if you do so - you ideally need a reference, the only link on that page was http://broadbandhk.com/ which does not look too helpful. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 16:52, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Passion Conferences
I recently uploaded a logo named file:Passion_Conference_Hurricane_Logo.jpg for use on the page Passion Conferences. I had not had the opportunity yet to post it to the page because I was traveling for the Holidays but the image was deleted before I could make that change. I was hoping that you could help by un-deleting the logo so that I can upload it. JDaghe 19:28, 29 December 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdaghe (talk • contribs)
 * Restored - Please add it back in ASAP. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 19:32, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Logo for Baltimore Ravens reverted
You removed the Baltimore Ravens logo (and reverted to an old INCORRECT logo that I had corrected) on the grounds that it was "to [sic] big for non free". I can only assume you're talking about the image's dimensions, rather than the file size on disk since I'm well below Wikipedia's maximum file size. However, I'm not sure I understand this reasoning, because vector graphics don't have a "size" in the same sense that traditional raster graphics do. I agree with you (and Wikipedia) that raster image formats (JPG, PNG, TIFF, etc.) used under a fair use rationale need to be limited in size to prevent abuse and copyright infringement. However I can't find any guidance on Wikipedia on the size of vector images, other than they should not be rendered any larger than necessary (the important word there is RENDER). How large users choose to render vector graphics is beyond the control of myself or Wikipedia; it's like telling someone how many copies of an article they can print. We can't control that. It's the RENDERING of a vector graphic that's at issue, not the graphic itself, since an SVG is no more than geometric instructions on how to render a final raster image, NOT the raster image itself. Hence, when referencing an SVG, "too big" is not a valid descriptor.

Nevertheless, I went ahead and "re-sized" the image to be more in line with pixel dimensions that would be appropriate for raster images. I hope this is satisfactory. Happy Holidays!

Rtmorgan (talk) 21:41, 29 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Fine - looks OK - we know it's a vector image (although some are bitmaps wrapped up in a svg package) - it's just the default size we change (to be 100000 pixels or less) - there's a whole page I'm working through - Category:Wikipedia non-free file size reduction requests for manual processing - I've finished all the "ogg" files, now I've started on the svg files. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 21:56, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Images on Eleanor Hibbert
Hi Ronhjones,

On 7 December 2014 you deleted page File:Eleanor-hibbert-as-eleanor-burford-1930s.jpg for the reason F5: Unused non-free media file for more than 7 days. I was wondering if you would be kind enough to undelete this page.

The image was linked on the page Eleanor Hibbert where user Hullaballoo_Wolfowitz has been causing a lot of grief with his disruptive editing. He has repeatedly deleted the page content that referred to this image and several other images. That made the images orphans and a target for speedy deletion.

Please see the long lost of complaints against his disruptive editing here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Hullaballoo_Wolfowitz/Archive_2. Before deleting the images from the Eleanor Hibbert page, he never sought any discussion. I tried to reason with him here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Hullaballoo_Wolfowitz/Archive_2#Eleanor_Hibbert.

Thanks very much for your help. R0x5r (talk) 18:41, 29 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Restored - Please add it back in ASAP. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 18:57, 29 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks, ! I've added the image back. :-) R0x5r (talk) 21:40, 29 December 2014 (UTC)


 * I have no idea why you are encouraging an editor to continue violating rather basic NFC principles and post phony accusations of vandalism rather than engage in reasoned discussion. There were no valid NFCC rationales for these images when I removed them; the just-rewritten rationales are still grossly insufficient, and every point that they are used to support is more than adequately conveyed by the existing text. These are obvious NFCC#8 failures. In no way is a nonfree image of an author needed to convey the meaning of a well-referenced statement that she wrote under a pseudonym. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 03:02, 30 December 2014 (UTC)


 * The image was deleted (correctly) as F5: Unused non-free media file for more than 7 days - if they want to put it in an article then they can do so. They were not deleted for any other reason - maybe you should place WP:CSD (Invalid fair-use claim) on the images, rather than just unlinking them (that never works - I've played this ping-pong of images in and out before). If the F7 does not work (someone might remove it), then you'll have to use WP:NFCR. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 03:22, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Block evasion: 97.100.70.85
Hi Ron, has taken to IPv6, for example in these edits (article was edited by both IPs) and here where the IPv6 changes track #7 to "Mas Problemas Uno Tiene/Tesoros" which was also done by IP 97.100.70.85. To help you with scope, AllMusic.com says that track #7 is the previous value, "Salgo Pa' La Calle". Sort of a random thing to change if it's not the same dude. Would appreciate some intervention, please. Thanks, sir! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:36, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Nice for the vandal to be consistent. Different ISP - still USA, maybe he's gone to his neighbour's house. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 20:46, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the assist. Mobile edit maybe? How does one geolocate an IPv6? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:50, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
 * https://www.ultratools.com/tools/ipv6Info - but whois for IPv6 can be very poor - it should always be static - but I have a large range (not sure if the are all mine!, maybe they are...) of 2001:8b0:9f0::/48 and I've currently got 2001:8b0:9f0:6034:915e:7222:e5f:b570 - which does give more info on ultratools than I expected (but then again, it cannot give the location within the UK - I get BRACKNELL, where the ISP office is located). <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 21:00, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Soooo much to learn. :) Thanks. If I lived near Bracknell, I'd drive over and share a piece of my mind with them... Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:02, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Noooo. My ISP is Bracknell, not the vandal! <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 21:06, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I am not terribly bright. Also I've got a wicked cold. :P Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:40, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
 * There's a lot about here. I had one last week <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 21:51, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

I suspect the IPv6 has hopped IPs here to 2601:3:3380:9b5:d4a6:4879:2e66:8141. They're editing on a fairly obscure article that hasn't seen much constructive editing since October. It seems sort of funky that 97.100.70.85 immediately precedes me, and IPv6 immediately follows, when we know the Kissimmee, Florida vandal has been active today. It's like a Cyphoidbomb sandwich with really, really crappy bread. And frankly, I'd stay away from the middle part too. :) Anyhow, might be too soon to do anything. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:03, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * And also resolves to "COMCAST-7922 - Comcast Cable Communications, Inc.,US". 2601:3:3380:9b5:d4a6:4879:2e66:8141 is obviously the same set as the blocked 2601:3:3380:9B5:7448:BAAD:BAA0:D614. Keep 'em peeled... <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 01:25, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Another: 73.179.160.227. La Cancion de La Tortilla (Song of the Tortilla) doesn't appear at AllMusic and was added by IP 97.100.70.85. IP geolocates to Miami, Florida. Pretty ducky. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:50, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * And another: User reintroduces "Kenny" as a character name, which IP 97.100 did also. The correct name appears to be Edgar. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:48, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * IPv6 - looks Same IP range, now blocked. as for the duck, he must have flown a long way :-) - could be WP:MEAT - I'll leave that one for now, see how it goes. I'm semi-protecting as well as we go along. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 19:54, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Another: . Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:12, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Guideline for iOS pix?
<c>Please can you make a guideline for the appropriate size for iOS non-free pictures? I just do not seem to get which size is "good enough". I seem to feel myself that 300px is the most appropriate for an iOS non-free picture. Also, in Candy Crush Saga, the article has the picture large-ish. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 02:46, 31 December 2014 (UTC)</c>
 * The problem with quoting one dimension is that the non free images all have different aspect ratios - so you end up with pictures like 300x1200 - not good. We therefore have a guideline at WP:Image resolution of 100,000 pixels - which for a square image comes out at 316x316 (and my odd example would be 158x632). For the File:Candy Crush Saga game setup example.jpg - 258 × 387 is 99846 pixels. Now there are two ways to achieve this - either do the calculations yourself - I tend to have an excel spreadsheet open myself - or upload your image at full size and immediately add non-free reduce to the image page, then within 24 hours Theo's little bot will reduce the image for you to the largest size possible under 100,000 pixels, and will replace the "reduce" temple with a "reduced" one, for flagging the old versions to be hidden. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 14:26, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Pathetic File:C Th Sørensen.jpg
Really? Think about the Wikipedia contributor you probably were, compared to the Wikipedia contributor you've become. All I can say is... better you than me. – JBarta (talk) 03:36, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
 * It was tagged with a Orphaned non-free revisions which clearly says If there are no problems with the current version, and it meets the non-free content criteria, please delete the previous version(s) - since the new version fails the guideline for non-free image size, the only option was to revert. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 14:30, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Undelete Request - Real Time Action Technology
Can you please undelete my article on Real Time Action Technology? B2Btechguy (talk) 18:37, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 18:56, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.221.27.158 (talk) 15:38, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Hey I'm watching Draft:Igor Janev. This article is salted because it is the pet project of globally banned sockmaster User:Operahome. The IP that restarted it is certain to be another sock. I'm not an admin, but suggest rolling back the move. Legacypac (talk) 17:47, 31 December 2014 (UTC)


 * This is complicated. I've no knowledge of the banned user. The changes as I know them...
 * I found a page at Talk:Igor Janev (reported by AIV bot) and I deleted the page as G8 - 15:29, 31 December 2014
 * I then saw the history and saw that the previous version had been moved to the wrong place for a draft - to "Draft talk" and not "Draft" - That was a move from Talk:Igor Janev and moved to Draft talk:Igor Janev - 07:30, 29 December 2014 User:GorillaWarfare
 * So I just moved it from the Draft talk page to the Draft page - 15:34, 31 December 2014
 * If I roll back my move it will be in Draft talk - not good. Suggest either talk to the admins that know this banned user, or just tag for WP:CSD. At least while it's in Draft - it won't be indexed from outside, so no-one will find it on a search. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 19:17, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

File:Deckmyn as lambic.png
I am a bit surprised about the reduction in size of File:Deckmyn as lambic.png; first by a bot (which only thinks in bytes probably); and today by you... Did I miss something and is there a minimum size limit for fair use images? I thought quality was leading, and as I stated in my previous upload, this is a very, very inferior image. Only by further sizing it down now the object that is discussed becomes harder (the fact that the receivers of the money are wearing scarfs). What would be a good way forward? Shall I upload a better image in full colour that allows for showing the details, but fulfils the size limit (which is?)? Or can you undo the deletion? Tnx for the help! L.tak (talk) 00:55, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Theo's little bot reduces to the guidleine at WP:Image resolution - i.e. 100,000 pixels. so that image is currently 99702 pixels. If the other version is better - but just too big - I could restore it and let call the bot to reduce it to the correct size (takes about 24h for the bot to find it). Let me know if you want that. You could claim that it needs a bigger image than the guidleine - but you would have to state in the FUR, why a larger than normal image is required. You could also upload a much bigger image and immediately add non-free reduce to the page to call up the bot - reducing an image once is likely to give a better result. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 01:06, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

A good 2015 to you and yours!

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Happy New Year
To the above and all my watchers... :-) <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 01:44, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Icelandic Brazilian
Hi Ron, I was about to decline the prod on this article and post the sources I found on the talk page when you deleted it. Thus, I request that you undelete it per WP:PROD. <b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b> 01:52, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
 * All yours. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 02:01, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, apparently the article at one time was much more detailed, but sadly it was all copyvio. <b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b> 02:05, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

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File:Philip Archuleta.jpg
Hi Ron. I'm a bit puzzled as to the deletion of this file, for reasons I stated here: User_talk:Eeekster/Archives/2014/December and the accompanying link. Can you shed more light? Thanks. Connormah (talk) 21:11, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * There is not an explicit enough permission for Wikipedia. I take it you are referring to http://www.nmlegis.gov/lcs/credits.aspx - where it says -  there's no license given for re-use, there's no mention of commercial use (so how can we decide on which license to use?) - if I saw an OTRS ticket with that statement, I (and all the others) would immediately bounce it back with an incorrect permission reply. The only true license statement we can see with the image is a clear "New Mexico Legislature, all rights reserved." at the bottom of the page, which I suspect is why User:Eeekster tagged the image again. Unless the web site sorts out it's permissions properly, then if the image is restored/uploaded, you are going to get this image tagged on a regular basis. or it will get moved to commons where I'll be deleting it there! My suggested options:
 * We can always restore it for a full FfD discussion
 * I could try e-mailing from OTRS to the e-mail address on http://www.nmlegis.gov/lcs/credits.aspx, to see if we can get a proper license statement.
 * Hope that helps, let me know if you want me to do anything. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 22:04, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * My problem is that I was told that this is okay at MCQ, at the thread I linked. Has something changed? Connormah (talk) 22:48, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I didn't see the thread at MCQ as it wasn't on the image page - on that basis, I'll cede to the majority consensus. I think they are wrong, but that's my view. I still think you'll have to watch that page like a hawk. I believe that when it gets moved to commons, it won't last a week. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 00:17, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I tend to agree with you. I'll slap on a do not transfer to Commons tag for the time being and try to get something sent to OTRS. Connormah (talk) 00:26, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I can send out from OTRS if you wish - they may respond to an e-mail from wikimedia.org address, and the answer is then logged on file - just let me know if you want that. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 00:29, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm also an OTRS member - how do you exactly send out from OTRS? Connormah (talk) 05:34, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Log in - press "Tickets" and in the drop down menu is
 * Queue View
 * Status View
 * New Phone Ticket
 * New Email Iicket
 * Search
 * Therefore select "New Email Ticket" - you get a blank e-mail form, you have to give it a queue, where it will live - one of the permission queues would do. Fill in rest as usual and send. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 16:08, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, can you maybe take care of this? Thanks. Connormah (talk) 19:37, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll let you know the ticket number when I do it. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 19:43, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

OTRS ticket Let's hope they reply - the worse outcome is no reply! <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 20:08, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
 * That looks good. I was a bit unsure as I've never had to send out anything on OTRS, so thanks for this. Connormah (talk) 20:49, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

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About deleted article Asociación Latinoamericana de Parques Zoológicos y Acuarios
Hi Ron. I disagree with your WP:G11 deletion of that article. From what I can see, it was more informational than unambiguously promotional, and may well have passed WP:A7. If another editor questions its speedy deletion, I would be happy to support them. I am obviously WP:INVOLVED. Could you possibly let me know if this happens? Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 11:09, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * The bits I could read - like "most significant association", with no ref - did seem a tad over the top and promotional. We could try AfD, but since it's not in English that might just be quick death knell. So let's be bold instead - I've set it up as a draft - Draft:Asociación Latinoamericana de Parques Zoológicos y Acuarios, so it can be improved (and translated). Now it's in Draft space, it won't be indexed by Google, etc. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 19:07, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Sincere thanks for creating the draft, Ron. I don't actually speak a word of Spanish, but I'll ask my frenemies, erm, I mean my dear friends at WP:RD/L to have a look at it and see how it goes. --Shirt58 (talk) 11:21, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Looked like they looked and killed it! C'ést la vie. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 18:15, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Russian Law Journal article was deleted.
I have understood the reason for the deletion of Russian Law Journal article. I want to see the content of the article again. I also have another reference with which I might save this article from deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kelephonestr (talk • contribs) 11:42, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I've given it another day's showing. If you think you can improve it then you need to remove the template (first 4 lines of the page) <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 13:52, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Talkback
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File:Aplotoftheoutersolarssystemwithcentaursandsdos.png
Arg, can you undelete this so I can write down I made it or whatever jargon is being looked for? Wily D 08:23, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Done - I've added the standard template for you to fill in. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 13:43, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * You still need a source or someone / some bot will slap another deletion tag on it! Suggest own if you created it. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 21:56, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Michael Capponi page
Hello,

I hope you are well and happy New Year.

This is an associate of Michael Capponi. I'm writing in regards to your edit of Mr. Capponi's Wikipedia page, specifically your removal of "Michael Capponi Profile Picture October 2014.jpg" due to "no evidence of permission for more than 7 days."

Mr. Capponi supplied the evidence of permission for this picture. I am re-supplying the evidence of this picture here.

F11 states that Mr. Capponi must provide: "acceptable evidence of licensing normally consists of either a link to the source website where the license is stated, or a statement by the copyright holder e-mailed or forwarded to permissions-en@wikimedia.org."

The image (profile picture) in question was taken by Shawn Lowe of DuJour magazine. He did in fact write to "permissions-en@wikimedia.org" on Thursday, October 9, 2014 giving Mr. Capponi full permission to use Mr. Lowe's image on Wikipedia.

I have pasted this correspondence below. Please let me know how this image can be re-instated. Thank you.

-- Forwarded message -- From: Shawn Lowe <shawn.lowe@dujour.com> Date: Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 9:01 AM Subject: Michael Capponi image permission to use To: permissions-en@wikimedia.org

As the creator of the photo that Michael would like to use for his wiki page, I give him permission to use the my image. If there's anything else you need please feel free to contact me directly.

Kindly, Shawn M. Lowe

Inline image 1

-- DuJour Media Shawn Michael Lowe Vice President, Production 2 Park Avenue, 4th floor New York, NY 10016 shawn.lowe@dujour.com (O) 646.532.5005 (C) 201.981.4112

Download our DuJour Magazine APP at the iTunes Store AdPortal: dujour.sendmyad.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndrewB75 (talk • contribs) 19:35, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

AndrewB75 (talk) 19:43, 5 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Here's some suggestions...
 * You need to follow the procedure at WP:DCM to send the permission to OTRS - the copyright holder must specify at least one suitable free license (e.g CC-BY-SA or CC-BY or CC-zero) - the form at WP:CONSENT can be used.
 * If the photo is of Michael Capponi and he sent you the photograph, then it's unlikely he will hold the copyright - that always (initially) belongs to the photographer. There therefore needs to be a written release of copyright (again to a suitable free license), and a scan of that will also need to be sent with the permission form.
 * Hope that helps. This all has to be done by e-mail as there is no possible verification of identities within Wikipedia. Uploading other people's photos is not an easy task. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 20:28, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

My Article Dženis Ćosić was deleted
I have well understood the reason for the deletion of my page. But I want to see the content of the article again How can I do it? I was not given any sort of warning before the deletion? I have another reference with which I might save this article from deletion. Please I want the content. Alhosniomani20 (talk) 17:26, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Send me an e-mail - link in tools in left margin - but do see User:Ronhjones/DeletedPROD for alternative answers. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 22:11, 20 December 2014 (UTC)


 * User:Ronhjones How do I send you an e-mail? I desperately need the content of that article. User:Alhosniomani20|Alhosniomani20]] (talk) 05:11, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
 * See Emailing users  Ron h jones  (Talk) 09:51, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

I have send you a mail yesterday. When can I get the reply? Alhosniomani20 (talk) 05:31, 26 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Sorry, Xmas got in the way a bit - now sent. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 20:35, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

RE: Request on 19:37:52, 2 January 2015 for assistance on AfC submission (Draft:Robbie Glover)
The amount of sources is not the issue, its the quality of a few of them that is. Because the submission is a biography of a living person, the sourcing policy is more stringent. Once the content referenced by unreliable sources (such as Urban Dictionary, Discogs, SoundClick, last.fm) is removed or cited with a reliable source, the submission should be good to go. --Hirolovesswords (talk) 03:31, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, now I see (I hope). Time for a little re-write and prune - thanks. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 20:52, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Entry on "online deliberation"
Hi Ron, I just noticed that the page on online deliberation has recently been deleted. Could you kindly restore it? I believe the concerns (e.g. lack of broad sourcing) can all be addressed, and I'd be happy to put some work into it in the short term. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tbonnema (talk • contribs) 23:46, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 00:02, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * That was quick, thanks! Agree the article isn't in good shape. Let's see what can be done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tbonnema (talk • contribs) 01:51, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, initiator of the WP:PROD here. Thanks for taking an interest in improving this article. Still concerned about the lack of sourcing though. The article currently has:
 * online-deliberation.net is a list of four online deliberation conferences, which are copied as 4 additional sources.
 * A link to Debategraph wikipedia article.(not a good source)
 * A link to an archive of a wiki page also from deliberative-democracy.net.(wikis are not good sources)
 * I would highly suggest finding sources beyond the published proceedings of the conferences. Maybe this article could be renamed "Online Deliberative Democracy Consortium", but in that case we would still need to find coverage independent of the ODDC itself.Forbes72 (talk) 20:37, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'm starting to reach out to a few people working in this area. Hope to make significant improvements over the next couple of weeks. There should be plenty of independent sourcing material available. Just a matter of figuring out what goes where. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tbonnema (talk • contribs) 23:52, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Please explain
This edit summary makes no sense. They were all being dropped into "ONE category". Also, both you and have reverted consensus, and neither of you have started a discussion about it on the talk page. I do hope one of you would do so. The coding for that function was set up to only include pages where it was used where the page size was greater than 250K... Since pages break at 120K or less for many mobile devices, a trigger point of more than twice that seems more than reasonable... I've thought this over, and would be happy to add functionality that requires the page to be over 250K AND have had the request there for at least a month if that is more desirable. That would give the editors a month to archive the page however they like and of their own accord, and if it takes longer than that it can probably be assumed they are either inactive and it will need to be done by another user or they are refusing to do so and intend to be disruptive to the project with "their" talk page. This AN discussion is evidence that there is consensus that this is not appropriate. Also, to address HJ's concern/point that an admin is not needed for this, since users have so much leeway is given to userspace and this discussion hasn't been formally closed yet suggesting that non-admins have some backing if they choose to undertake the task of getting another user's talk page so that it can be rendered for most users again, then these actions should only be carried out by administrators, hence putting it in admin backlog. Either one of you are welcome to move this to the template's talk page if you feel it is more appropriate there. — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (e • t • c) 20:30, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I meant have a single category - like Category:Long talk pages which has a single entry in Category:Administrative backlog - the size of the admin dashboard was ridiculous - all those talk page suddenly appeared under the "Administrative backlog" heading - so instead of the usual 24 of so links in 2 columns we had a vast list - I had to scroll three pages to get to the AVI section. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 20:38, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * There is already a category that is added to, but that is only added based on the number of pages that need to be dealt with and not the size of the pages that need to be dealt with.  I'd be happy to stiffen the numbers/requirements for it to be listed there, and I'd be happy to wait until I get the list of pages under control (many of them will likely need an admin to step in and say "Set up archiving the way you want it, or I'll move this page to an archive for you") - but I'm going kind of slow (I hit the top of the list in 100K size chunks (everything greater than 800K last night), but expect as I get to smaller pages, I will likely break it into smaller bits (see betacommand-dev/reports/Long_Pages.html for the scope of this project).  — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (e • t • c) 20:45, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Fine - it's just that about 300+ editors have Template:Admin dashboard, and many won't want it bloated with dozens and dozens of single pages (a few new links will do nicely). I also suspect that a many of those big talk pages may have ceased editing and there is some mailing bot filling them up. Maybe we need a sub list where their last edit was, say, 1 year ago? <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 20:57, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I think the problem is the fact that since no-one has been dealing with this issue, there has been a reasonably large backlog built up. I'm not sure I understand what you mean by a sub list of where their last edits was a year ago.  There are no magic words or parser functions or way to obtain that information that I'm aware of. I can add template code to get the last editor or how long ago the last edit was, but I can't get user specific information.  If the date parameter is used, I can get how many months ago the template was posted (this month, last month, longer ago). I can get the raw page size (not including images and templates being transcluded). I could modify the template to accept more parameters and get a few other pieces of info (like a more specific amount of time or who placed the template.  I'm willing to do whatever I can to improve and expand.  Do you think it would be worth trying to start a forum discussion on the idea lab or something? Adding things like  opt-out category or removing users from mailing lists (I have seen that the suggestbot list is a common one that is filling these pages). Since one of the new features on the OneClickArchiver script will be the ability to place the Archiveme on pages that don't have any archiving set up and are large, I would be happy to have the script check the timestamp of the user's last edit and add it as a parameter to the template.  This would probably only be shown if the script is used to place the template, but it is an option.  Feedback is welcome, and no worries about me adding the code back to the template until we can figure out what the best plan is.  I really don't try to make people miserable or cause drama, despite that people seem to think I do at times, I'm just a very progressive person and like to try and get things Done™.  — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (e • t • c) 22:59, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I know you have best intentions - I've even done the same - changed a template and had mucho undesired effect on a forest other pages - it's easily done. I note Category:Archive requests is actually empty - has the link been lost from Template:Archiveme? I think your suggestion to flag the user's last edit date is good - it could flag up "lost" editors - I just picked one page at random User talk:MRacer - last edit 26 March 2014 and it's filling up with "WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter" over and over again - and a second at random User talk:Zdunne - last edit 28 July 2013 - all "WikiProject Professional wrestling newsletter". Somehow there needs to be some control over these newsletters, if they were not published then a lot of user pages may well be smaller - it could help if these template were a simple one line template (maybe - or we may well hit the bl**dy template expansion limit...!). Maybe all newsletters need a yearly confirmation of inclusion - is it possible to have the distribution system of the newsletters not post a new one when the talk page is over a certain size? To be honest, I didn't even know there was an issue with talk pages filling up, it was only the wild effect on the dashboard that drew my attention - maybe we need an admin newsletter - ha,ha... Trouble is you can't be in all the places at once - I've just spent a fair bit of time clearing out Category:Wikipedia non-free file size reduction requests for manual processing, now empty, had requests going back 2 years! I'll be happy to lend the odd hand at fixing up some archiving code, when you have sorted out your lists. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 00:51, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * A further thought - if we add MiszaBot code to a long talk page of a lost editor, then it will always be small - but we must stop all the newsletters or we will be filling WP with thousands of archive pages. Maybe we need to have a list of these lost editor names - and could we get someone to write a bot to then remove those names from all the various newsletter's distribution lists? <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 01:32, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * , can Lowercase sigmabot III be configured to keep track of these things instead of always just archiving? — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (e • t • c) 01:38, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I've fixed the template. Apparently, a couple }} got lost and the category they were assigned too became Category:Archive requestss.  I've fixed the template and am working through null editing all the pages it is transcluded on to update the link table.  I've already set it up some groundwork by creating Mailing list member (which jackmcbarn converted to lua) which makes it possible to have a script (already planning on developing one) that can be run on mailing list pages to update each |inactive= parameter with each member's last activity so that mass messages will stop being sent to members based on whatever the project determines is a good cutoff for inactivity (default is 1 year to be marked as inactive and 2 years to stop messages).  I actually didn't mark them all as Archiveme that I found, there where some I blanked and others I requested CSD (1.3MB of "SWAGSWAGSWAG........" wasn't very productive), there was even one I found that I had a CU nuke (funnily enough, it was quite offensive and named half a dozen admins including HJ Mitchell calling them all various derogatory names).  There were a couple that appeared to be a database dump by a bot and one where a user replaced the entire page (including the block notice) with what seemed to be some long text in a language I assume was Italian based on the comments on the page and the reason they were blocked.  Anyways, I'm going back to my Friday night movie watching, happy editing! — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (e • t • c) 01:38, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, you ran into a member of my fan club? Some of them are real charmers! (I find them far more amusing than I probably should!) Anyway, I really do have to question whether policing other editors' talk pages like that is the best use of everybody's time. Specific cases, like the one that was raised at AN recently I can understand, but doing it en masse is the sort of thing I'd save for when the encyclopaedia is finished and we're scratching around for things to do. It certainly doesn't require the use of admin tools, which is why I objected to the mass listing in CAT:ADMINBACKLOG, though I have no objection to Ron's suggestion of listing the all in some other category and that category being listed as an admin backlog still ambivalent at best about its usefulness, though, given that we have an encyclopaedia to write and vandals to block and all sorts of other more important tasks. While we're on the subject, can you figure out why editors' custom dashboards are appearing in that category? I'm guessing somebody's forgotten to noinclude a template on one of the transcluded pages, but I can't figure out which. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?  02:15, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * - if you look at User:CorbieVreccan/Admin Toolbox - then it's the last section that causes the issue - shown in User:Ronhjones/Sandbox4 - using the WP pages as templates pulls in the cats, is the first one and will give the category "Administrative backlog" - not sure how you stop that. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 21:12, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * You stop it by sticking around adminbacklog so that it (and thus its category) doesn't show up on transclusions, but I can't quickly tell where the it's coming from—I fixed one on one of the permissions pages the other day, but evidently there's at least one more.  HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?  21:25, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Not easy to find is it! I think this is it - - I activated each bit of my User:Ronhjones/Sandbox4 - until backlog showed up. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 23:59, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Aha! Good sleuthing, my friend. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?  02:11, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * To be quite honest... Admin dashboard has been a thorn in my side repetitively... I've applied for labs access and am contemplating how to create a tool that will offer all the functionality of the templates, without any of the drawbacks (inclusion sizes, expensive parser functions, categorization leaks, etc).  Would such a thing be desired? — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (e • t • c) 23:41, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * It can be a pain - when there are too many entries in some templates, it goes belly up with the dreaded template expansion. If you can make a nice stable version, then so much the better <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 23:59, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * A stable version would be lovely, though I like the template because (with some javascript hack or other) it's accessible with a keyboard shortcut, and I'm lazy (and scrolling with only a trackpad is a pain in the arse), so I love keyboard shortcuts! Also, "labs" and "stable" are not words that seem to make natural bedfellows... HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?  02:11, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * , the idea would be that the template would stay as it is with that adds a wrapper div with an id.  This means nothing will change for those that don't want it.  What I will do is create the tool with an interface (on labs itself).  Once that is done, I will create an API for that interface that will allow me to write an onwiki script.  That onwiki script, will attempt to get the contents of the labs interface components through the API and will use some jQuery magic to replace the content of that div I just created with the content retrieved from labs.  "If" the script fails to get the information from labs, it does nothing and the user still has the template version.  This should only increase stability.  What do you think? — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (e • t • c) 03:00, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Sound like best of both worlds - we'll wait and see how it goes. P.S. fixed your spelling mistake on the template :-) <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 03:19, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * When the encyclopaedia is finished - LOL. Answer never. I agree it not a high priority, but at the end of the day these talk pages with 500 substituted Willy Wonker's Newsletters, do take up some server space, so it does makes sense to think about sorting this out for the future of Wikipedia - 23 million named accounts - how many talk pages are growing weekly on long gone people? It will only get worse, if we don't lay some foundation now. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 02:43, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * , what I'm thinking is that once the backlog is gone, I can create a bot to prevent the situation from recurring. My idea is that the bot could do database dumps for long talk pages and then post a series of talk page requests and try to give as much of a chance for the editor to clean up after themselves as possible.  I think I need to set up a flow chart of how it might work, I'm having a hard time coming up with words to explain the process I have in mind because I can't see it and am afraid that even if I could, it would be TL;DR.  I'll be back once I've drawn that up... — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (e • t • c) 16:31, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, [[Media:Archival flowchart for User talk.png]] is done as a first draft, and there is a new discussion on the topic on Village pump (technical)/Archive 133 started by and the discussion should probably continue there. :) — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (e • t • c) 18:04, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Speaking of which - where the da** archive bot gone? I changed it to 10 days as the page was still big after the last archive (30th) and user:Lowercase sigmabot III has not been back since. Hope it's not another stalled bot - Cydebot has gone all sulky as well, maybe they don't like new years! <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 02:48, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I've noticed it sometimes takes a "holiday" and comes back a couple days later. — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (e • t • c) 16:31, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

RE: Red Wing Pottery
You changed an edit I made and I do believe you have an error. You have reverted the page to include some very inaccurate statements which I have been trying to clear up. Not only doe this cause problems of accuracy of information, you have indicated that it was "not constructive". Correction of information is, in my opinion, and I would hope yours, always constructive, and reasoning was explained in edit. Reference removed is from a Company Written page, not historical research and was therefore removed. Source is not even being used accurately-it contradicts the statement you have reestablished by removing my edit. Historical documentation contradicts what the page now states, hence why I changed it. RWLLB (talk) 20:54, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * You removed properly referenced data. Hence the revert - this is not the first time that such an edit has been tried on this page. The fact that the link is now not working does not matter - we have plenty of dead links, see WP:LINKROT - we do not remove the data or the link. The data was properly verified at the time of editing. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 21:15, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Mwetoolkit page deletion
I would like to restore the Mwetoolkit page, which I created and which was deleted by you for the reason WP:NSOFT. I think that it is important that this tool is represented as a Wikipedia page because it is widely used in the research community of Natural Language Processing. A Search in Google Scholar indicated 93 references in scientific articles. The tool is actively maintained since 2009, with up-to-date documentation on the website, periodical resources and an open-source code on Sourceforge. Ceramisch (talk) 14:02, 7 January 2015 (UTC)ceramisch
 * Restored as contested PROD - in my opionion, as it stands it is unlilky to survive - it needs vast improvement to get to current WP standards.<b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 19:36, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

144.132.160.236 does not need to be "sufficiently warned"
One look at all these edits, and the amount of time he's been doing them, will tell you he's a vandal only IP, clearly not intending to contribute to Wikipedia (the Duck rule, or something like that). You've banned other IPs like that before. It's not my fault no one has warned him yet, and after four months, it's pointless to go through procedures. 85.210.185.88 (talk) 00:08, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Item 2 of WP:AIV = The user must have been given enough warnings to stop their disruptive behavior. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 00:11, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Again, not my fault nobody warned him before and completely redundant given he's been doing it for months. You've banned such users with "insufficiant" warnings before when it's obvious. 85.210.185.88 (talk) 00:12, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Still need some recent warnings - looks like he's blocked anyway now <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 00:15, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

A Request
I want to thank you for page-protecting Gastornis, and I would like to also ask if you could also page-protect Andrewsarchus from the same IP-hopping vandal, too. Thanks again for your time.--Mr Fink (talk) 23:32, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 23:49, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you!--Mr Fink (talk) 00:31, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Howard Bentham page deletion August 2014
Hello Ron

I have just discovered my Wikipedia page was deleted.

I would be grateful if you could explain the reasoning behind this deletion and what I need to do to have the page reinstated.

If it is easier to correspond via email then please contact me on <removed e-mail>

Kind regards

Mullion12 (talk) 21:48, 8 January 2015 (UTC)Howard Bentham


 * Restored as contested PROD - unlikely to stay unless improved - it has no references at all. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 22:05, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

File:Greater New York Councils CSP.png
Could you please restore the file, it goes on Scouting in New York. Thanks. --evrik (talk) 03:30, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Please place it in the page to prevent deletion. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 19:50, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

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File:LT Domenique "Nikki" Selby, Nurse Corps, United States Navy.jpg
Hello and a happy new year to you!

Thanks for. I wonder if I could draw on your Commons experience and ask you about the above image from the same article? It looks like a professional shot, and the licensing information claims previous publication in the latest edition of AMPA (a flight/aeromedical retrieval textbook). I own the 2006 edition in which the picture does not appear. In any case, AMPA is a copyrighted work.

I don't have access to Navy Knowledge Online, which AFAIK is accessible only with navy ID. I don't have much experience with image copyrights. Is this picture usable because it was (possibly) a work of the US federal government?

Thanks very much for your time. Cheers, Basie (talk) 00:48, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I cannot see a match in Google Images - so it's not a direct web copy. However, it's not good...
 * License states "I, the copyright holder...
 * There is "Photo by Maria Reilly"
 * I've tagged with "No Permission" <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 01:00, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! It didn't feel right, but I couldn't definitively say it was a problem. Cheers, Basie (talk) 01:18, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Deletion of [[File:Robert Ovadia hosting Seven Morning News.png]]
Hi, I understand that you recently deleted this image, which was a screen capture of a news broadcast from YouTube. As the page was deleted despite my adding additional fair use information to it, and I was not told if that information was reviewed, if agreement among editors may have been reached/discussed, etc. I wondered if you might explain if I could either: (1) reupload the image with another type of license or usage statement(s), or (2) whether it would be possible to upload a different yet similar image from a TV broadcast of this person at all, or any and all attempts would fail. Thank you for your time. Whats new? (talk) 04:18, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
 * The person is alive - therefore replaceable. It's almost impossible to have a non-free image of a living person - if you find any let me know and I will delete them. You need to just go and find the person and take a picture - outside of course, that's what would be normal for a newscaster article - here's an example from my country - Alastair Stewart <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 16:44, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

[[File:MarieCurieKnowledgeGraph.tiff]]
You deleted by claiming that a free-use replacement could be found. Could you please explain where I'm supposed to get an example of Google's display of a Knowledge Graph that is not under Google's copyright? --Nat Gertler (talk) 02:09, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
 * There are possibly two lots of copyright :- Google - but it not generated by a human - hence User:Stefan2 comment about c:Template:PD-monkey. The main copyright will exist in the images. I would suggest one would need to try other Knowledge Graphs to try to get one with only free images. We can always put it up for WP:NFCR if you prefer. This file as it stands would probably fail WP:NFCC with that many non-free images - one cannot call it minimal. Do note it was also too big, it would need reduction to fit with WP:Image resolution if it were to stay. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 02:29, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
 * One could also take the image and blank out the non-free images and add some text as a "placeholder" - all the actual images are not needed to show the layout. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 02:46, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
 * OR even replace all the images with free ones, it's the layout you are showing, not the content. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 16:45, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Evidence of permission of use for an image...
How can I provide evidence for an image? I have an image given to me by the owner with permission to get this on wikipedia. How do I share this evidence which is an email?

Would be great if you can leave the response on my talk page. Thank you!

Thanks WikicontributorTH — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikicontributorTH (talk • contribs) 11:40, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Replied  Ron h jones  (Talk) 14:50, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Chaheru
Ron, Thx. for your feedback on the subject of deletion of historical articles on the above subject. I had one other Q...Given that my article on the above subject was accepted on Jan 2, can I not request a delete of ALL articles prior to the accepted article? In my view, the accepted article now provides some sort of authenticity and accuracy. It is the first accepted article on the subject. At this time it is the last article on the subject. No one else has contributed. All historical articles on the subject have been written by me and essentially represent my progress over time. After acceptance, all historical articles represent zero value to the public and are now garbage and should be deleted. I hate to waste disk space. Let me know what I could do. Thx.

kinder deo (talk) 23:40, 12 January 2015 (UTC)


 * There is no true delete - everything, absolutely everything is saved forever - only the visibility varies. You could "delete" the whole article and start again from scratch, and the page log on the history page will still show 64 deleted edits (and they can always be read by admins and above - and even restored if they think fit). The system does not permit edits to be completely hidden. You cannot save disk space. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 23:49, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

CHAL Foundation
Prs4ever (talk) 10:41, 13 January 2015 (UTC)My article CHAL Foundation is deleted. Please undelete it. Thank You.
 * Not one of my deletes - See Articles for deletion/CHAL Foundation, we cannot undelete articles which have been deleted at WP:AfD. You only choice is a Deletion review or ask to have it restored as a Draft - if restored as a draft, it cannot be moved to article space until it has been improved and passed review at WP:AfC, otherwise it will get speedily deleted as WP:CSD <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 16:27, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Picture Deletion From Sandbox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Digicentric/sandbox
Ron,

NEWBIE, though I've done a number of edits of existing pages under a different name. Basically, I don't have a clue what I'm doing, and at 65, my memory lacks a lot. I don't even remember how I added the picture you deleted, but I'll try again. I also don't know how I prove the rights to use it (it is all over the internet for this person, and the subject person provided the picture to me as "my favorite press release picture"), so I'm struggling to get this article the way I need it and I suspect moving at a much slower pace than others. Now, as an aside but as additional info to help me understand how I'm supposed to do things, I have a "real job" and, during the time of my anniversary, Christmas, my birthday, and New years (all across 12 days), my mother took ill and died. For two weeks I wasn't at work at all so nothing took place. How do I handle my "sandbox" such that things stay and stay the way I left them as I fight through this bio? I thought it was not even visible to anyone, and not therefore of concern to anyone. Now I find you had to delete the picture. Is there something I need to do differently? Are you able to coach me, or am I back to the articles which I've read several times and still do not feel I know what I need to?

Thanks, Ron. Sorry about the many words. You'd find I'm the same way in person. Something I need to work on! :)

Michael, Digicentric, Larraine Segil — Preceding unsigned comment added by Digicentric (talk • contribs) 21:07, 13 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Never mind you being 65 - did you see my age at User:Ronhjones... - I hope I don't become suddenly clueless in 4 months :-). Images may be "all over the internet", but sadly we have to keep the right side of the Law. Someone owns the copyright of that image, now that will start with the person who "pressed the shutter" and made the work. It's possible that the copyrights were transferred to whoever commissioned the image, but we need to know that, and what rights were transferred - often when such an image is used in a promotional way, the agreed usage could be strictly "non-commercial" - we don't have non-commercial images - all Wikipedia image are released for any use including commercial. I see you did add a Non-free promotional template - sadly, that is not for living people. There are very few non-free images of living people, as such a subject is deemed replaceable (one gets takes a camera, and takes a picture - it may be difficult, but never impossible). Your sandbox should not change if left for a while - the presence of the linked image, caused the script to hide the image name when I deleted the image. Moving along, I suspect you image is a derivative of http://rockingrandmamusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Larraine-Segil-press-photo-.jpg, so I would suspect http://rockingrandmamusic.com might know what could be done with that image. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 21:31, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Can the "junk sleep" article be undeleted?
This article was recently deleted, despite its notability. See the discussion here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine. Jarble (talk) 04:03, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Restored as contested PROD <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 19:28, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Image on Wikipedia
Hi there, I don't know HOW to follow this step please help: make a note permitting reuse under the CC-BY-SA or another acceptable free license (see this list) at the site of the original publication. The photo is mine I am Carlotta Montanari. How to resolve this one forever?
 * File:Carlotta_Montanari_red_carpet.jpg

thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nueva2014 (talk • contribs) 17:26, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Publishing a picture elsewhere before uploading here, always causes issues. Since no one is truly identified, then any such re-use is always regarded as an illegal copy. I would suggest you e-mail the form at WP:CONSENT to permissions-en@wikimedia.org and let them assist you in sorting out the permission. If you do that, let me know and I will replace the deletion notice with an OTRS pending notice, to allow OTRS to process the permission. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 19:37, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

HI, I just emailed permissions-en@wikimedia.org with all the attachements of my images. you can verify with them or give me a private email and I will forward the email to you./ thank you for the instructions and your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nueva2014 (talk • contribs) 21:47, 14 January 2015 (UTC)


 * I can read the e-mail if I need to. I've changed the templates on the image page <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 22:01, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nueva2014 (talk • contribs) 22:28, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Replacing deleted image
Hi Ron, Please bear with me as I'm still learning how to navigate my way through Wikipedia. I uploaded an image to a page and wasn't able to send copyright permission in time before it was deleted. The artist sent the permission email to me instead of permissions-en@wikimedia.org and it didn't get to wikipedia in time. I wanted to notify you that I'm going to try again and have the artist email it directly this time. This was the image page: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Charles_Fazzino_with_his_Airplane_Pop_Art_Sculpture.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1 Nosleep25 (talk) 02:07, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I missed the note - you need to use the OTRS pending, then you get your 30 days to gain permission. I've restored and added the template to the image page. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 16:31, 13 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi Ron, I wasn't sure if I should have added it via Wikimedia Commons first, so I tried that last night and didn't know you could restore the previous image. So now we have duplicate images. How do I save the "approved" one and delete the dup? The artist emailed wikipedia with permission today, so I want to make sure the image that stays is linked with that permission and not the dup to delete. The duplicate image that I created last night is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Charles_Fazzino_with_3-D_popart_plane_sculpture_at_JFK_airport.jpg but the OTRS is attributed to the image you restored.
 * Sorry for the confusion, this is the first time I've uploaded an image and have a bit of a learning curve. There are other images I want to add to various pages, should they always go through Wikimedia Commons first if they're free images? Nosleep25 (talk) 02:45, 14 January 2015 (UTC)


 * OK... The e-mail arrived - it will take a while to get processed. The url in the e-mail was the commons image c:File:Charles Fazzino with 3-D popart plane sculpture at JFK airport.jpg, so I've got rid of the en-wiki one. The commons image needed the OTRS pending template (I'm surprised the image lasted so long - they are quick at commons!), so I've added it to the page. BTW - the ticket number for the e-mail is 2015011310019195 (every e-mail gets a number) - if nothing happens in a month the ask me or at WP:MCQ to check it. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 19:51, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * P.S. Ideally free images go to commons. If they are found to be free here, they will get tagged with a Copy to Wikimedia Commons template. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 19:53, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much for your help Ron!

Nosleep25 (talk) 03:38, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Martial arts vandal is back
After a brief respite, it looks like he's back again. I was hoping that he had simply given up. His current IP address is, and it looks like he's beginning to target Korean films now that you locked up some of his favorite Hong Kong films. This could get very annoying. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 10:51, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Agreed... :-( But we will get there in the end. IP resolves to (no surprise!), 5acb2633.bb.sky.com - sky broadband in UK as usual. Looks like he also tries to edits some ordinary films as well to try to hide his real attack. Rolled all edits back - and protected quite a few martial arts pages - see Special:Contributions/Ronhjones times - 19:40 to 19:46. Keep a close watch - I doubt if we have seen the last of him yet. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk)

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Urs Leupold
I am wondering about the use of a photo that does not appear to have a copyright (unless that is impossible). I had posted an image of the late Urs Leupold that he used in an open letter to the S. pombe community on the occasion of the First International Fission Yeast Meeting in 1999. As best as anyone in the pombe community knows, there is no copyright associated with this image. You have removed this and I want to respect your likely superior knowledge of these matters, but I believe that this photo can be used on the page I have made for Dr. Leupold.

Cheers,

Hoffmacs (talk) 13:48, 31 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Firstly (and most important) - there is no such thing as no copyright. Copyright is generated automatically the instant the photographer pressed the shutter and created "the work". It's true that US images pre Berne Convention (1988) are a minefield of copyright notices and renewal, and non-US images pre URAA(1996) also cause much issues. However this is a simple case, it's in Switzerland and 1999 - so whoever took the photo has the copyright until 70 years have passed his/her death. If does not matter if the photographer gave away the photos, unless (s)he explicitly gave away the copyright in writing then they still own it. If the photographer cannot be found then it's 120 years from 1999 = 1st Jan 2120. There is, however, a further option in this case - it appears the person died on 9th Oct 2006, so if you think that your image and it's use could satisfy the WP:NFCC, then you could have it as a non-free image - it's now not replaceable as the subject is deceased, and google search fails to find any free images of him. If you want it restored to a non-free image then let me know. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 14:57, 31 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks Ron. I believe that this would fall under the non-free image category and I would like to have it restored.  I believe that including a photograph of Dr. Leupold, whom the vast majority of S. pombe scientists have never met personally, adds a lot to the page. By the way, my lab uses S. pombe to express mammalian adenylyl cyclases, GNAS1, and PDEs.  We have published several PDE inhibitor screens and have published to only known selective PDE11 inhibitor.  Small world! Hoffmacs (talk) 17:37, 2 January 2015 (UTC)


 * I had to roughly fill in the templates - or it would cause more issues - please check File:Urs Leupold.jpg and adjust as required. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 20:46, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

I understand that the image had to be removed again as long as the page is still a draft. What I did not understand is the difference between making a draft of a page that requires approval and simply making a page. I forgot what I did not cause the Leupold page to be a draft, because I recently thought I was doing the same thing for my former postdoc advisor Fred Winston (a member of the National Academy and the former president of the Genetics Society of America), but it ended up simply being a Wikipedia page. Hoffmacs (talk) 00:09, 16 January 2015 (UTC)


 * We have several "spaces" in Wikipedia - Article space, User space, Draft space, File space, etc. The non-free image has to be in Article space - those pages show as having no prefix (unlike User:, Draft:, File:, etc). One can create a file directly in Article space (it's the original way it was done) - but it's very hard, if not always impossible - too many policies and guidelines make it difficult to get a page right first time. So it's far easier to make a Draft and get it reviewed and approved, then the likelihood of future deletion is far, far less. BTW there is nothing to stop you using File:Wikipedia non-free placeholder.png as an image placeholder to show where the non-free image will be later. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 20:07, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:Basic diagram of robots in the Lely Juno series.jpg
Thanks for the message. I forwarded a message to wikimedia permissions regarding the image on the 27th of November 2014. Please tell them to double check it. Thanks.--Nadirali نادرالی (talk) 23:31, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, and I replied from OTRS "28/11/2014 00:24 by Ron Jones" - because you said  - that's not allowed on Wikipedia - we allow re-use for any purpose, including commercial - we can only use an image licensed to a minimum of CC-BY-SA or to one of these - Image_copyright_tags/Free_licenses. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 02:47, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Thank you. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 03:14, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

FYI: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_UK_Railways Andy Dingley (talk) 21:47, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
 * You have the same issue that NinjaRobotPirate has with the "Martial Arts Vandal" (4 messages above) - a report at AIV will just give a short block on a new IP, you need a small team of admins "In the know", so that this sort of behaviour can be addressed. Currently with the MAV, I will add 1 week block (because we know he will be moved off that IP in a week), and semi protect any pages that he is concentrating on. The MAV is always on bb.sky.com, so a rangeblock is out of the question - just like your vandal is always on BT. BTW Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_UK_Railways is wrong - there's no way he's in Lincolnshire, just like there's no way I'm in Basingstoke (my IP address says I am - I'm in Carnforth, just a few miles away (200+!)). The UK phone system does not allow any geoloate other than "UK", all you get is an ISP office address for that particular IP band. That IP has probably re-booted his router by now, but if he does resume, drop me a line. If you can list some pages he's very active in, I'll be happy to semi protect them. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 23:04, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Sunshine!

 * Thank you - there's a real lack of sunshine at present - in fact it was trying to snow this afternoon :-( <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 23:21, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

File:Sultan Ayoub Meo.jpg
AdnanUsmani (talk) 08:04, 18 January 2015 (UTC) Hi RonhJones I am new to Wikipedia as an author/editor but I am a Medical Journal Editor and a researcher who has published many research papers. I authored an articles in love of one of my great professors, "Sultan Ayoub Meo." which still wiaitng for a review. (Though I review many scientific articles but I need to learn about Wikipedia Reviewing process). Recently, a file, Sultan Ayoub Meo.jpg was deleted by you and I admit that there was no copyright information attached to it. Actually, I am the owner of this picture, I made it myself through a phone camera, so I believe there should be no issue with copyright, once published it is a public property under CC licence terms. I request you to please un-delete the picture. I would also appreciate if you could kindly approve the Draft:Sultan Ayoub Meo, available at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sultan_Ayoub_Meo

Please feel free to reach me directly, arasheed@ksu.edu.sa

Thanks and kind regards Adnan Usmani


 * You did not add any license data or any description of the image. Hence it gets deleted. I did find the same image of commons - you seem to have bothered to fill in all the parts this time - File:Sultan Ayoub Meo.JPG - no point in restoring en-wiki one, when there is a commons one. BTW I do not do article reviews. <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 16:04, 18 January 2015 (UTC)