User talk:Roninbk

Intellectual honesty
Since you've assassinated the AfD, I've redirected the article to intellectual dishonesty. Again. I trust you will be willing to offer some assistance in the event that the alternative article's advocate comes along and reverts it. Again.-- Jeffro 77 (talk) 01:03, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Just to let you know... User:Viriditas has replaced the redirect again with his version of intellectual honesty, on 26 December 2011. There is no point having both articles, but it is not clear how to get that through to him.-- Jeffro 77 (talk) 10:35, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Procedural Nomination
Hello,

Could you please refer me to a description of what a procedural nomination is? I apologize for what you perceived as a disruptive question. I was simply asking for a definition of a term that you had used in the discussion. Thank you very much. Cullen328 (talk) 22:18, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * There is no direct policy definition of what a "procedural nomination" is, however the phrase is used all the time by nominators who do not personally endorse deletion, endorsing only that the AfD discussion should occur. Note that there is nothing in the Deletion Policy that actually requires the nominator to endorse a deletion outcome. This is quite common when a Deletion Review decision is to overturn and relist, or when a PROD is contested.
 * In the case of BangaBhasha, the consensus of the Talk page discussion appears to be that an AfD should be opened. The nominators rationale was not because of his or her personal opinion, but the result of a consensus. Hence the term "procedural" in this instance, it was the result of a procedure. -- RoninBK T C 22:37, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the explanation. Personally, I don't see why an editor would nominate an article at AfD unless that editor thought it should be deleted, or was helping a less experienced editor.  However, I will respect precedent as you've described it, and will refrain from questioning such nominations in the future. Cullen328 (talk) 23:06, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Clearing out WP:Dead-end pages backlog
Greetings, I see you also have been working on WP:Dead-end pages; my goal at this point (as you may see in the Talk page of the main portal) is to clear out existing backlogs so that the only WP:DEP listing will be the by-month lists, as opposed to various manually-updated lists. Of the alphabetical lists, I think we've cleaned out all but two sections, with some 700 articles left. Do you think we two, and whoever else, can knock those out over the course of this month? MatthewVanitas (talk) 07:12, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Ooof, I dunno. I'll do what I can, but after going through about a dozen or so of those last night by hand, I was getting a little goofy. Any suggestions on a good automation tool for finding probable link targets? -- RoninBK T C 07:42, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Honestly, I've just been hand-jamming it. I really need to learn how to use AWB or whatnot. MatthewVanitas (talk) 07:51, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Dacia scope clarifications and disclaimer
Hello! Given the potential for conflict and suspicions raised by the WikiProject Dacia, I added an important notice for scope clarifications and disclaimer in the intro section. If interested and willing, please review and provide any feedaback and suggestions you may have. Thank a lot! --Codrin.B (talk) 19:48, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I think that outright dismissing articles on Dacomania and Protochronism seems a bit arbitrary. I'm not saying you have to embrace their content, but I think that there is a way to properly include the articles without giving them undue weight. I'd advise you to have a chat with the fine folks at WikiProject Alternative Views, they might be better equipped to advise you on how to treat subjects like this without giving them undue weight. -- RoninBK T C 16:39, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Great advice! Thank you!!
 * You might also be interested in seeing what I pointed out in your AN/I case, where I expanded upon what I would consider a properly balanced approach -- RoninBK T C 17:37, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot for the neutral view. Much needed. I fully agree with your points A very difficult project and subject ... How can involve Alternative Views project without being accused of canvasing? --Codrin.B (talk) 17:44, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd just go ahead and leave a note on the Wikiproject Talk page, I get the strong impression that the person who brought the AN/I will accuse you anyways, but as long as your post is fairly neutral I wouldn't worry about it -- RoninBK T C 17:49, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi Roninbk,

My issue is not with the Wiki project but with Codrinb's leadership based on his lack of neutrality regarding Dacia-related topics and his unfounded accusations on me that I am following a hidden agenda. I just can't accept someone like him to head one of our wiki-projects.

Andrei (talk) 18:06, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * That's all fine and good, and please notice that I stopped short of endorsing Codrinb's actions. But apart from the fact that Codrinb created the WikiProject in the first place, there is no "leader" of any WikiProject. Decisions are supposed to be made via consensus and just because the two of you disagree on certain things does not give you have the right to call for some kind of mutiny. -- RoninBK T C 19:05, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

I understand. If that is so then I kindly request you or another administrator to stop Codrin's and Daizus' harassment of my map. I stand by my decision to support Ivan Duridanov's Dacian-Baltic linguistic connection and the labelling of the Carpi and Costoboci barbarian tribes as of Uncertain origin based on the Cambridge Ancient History. Codrin can have the map removed from the articles within the scope of his project if he desires but I want him to ignore me and my work from now on.

Thank you very much. Cheers, Andrei (talk) 19:24, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * For the record, I am not an administrator, I am merely a third party trying to help objectively resolve this. You guys can certainly agree to avoid each other if you so choose, but any enforceable block of each other would have to be a matter handled by admins, quite possibly the WP:ARBCOM if it gets extremely severe. -- RoninBK T C 19:42, 15 January 2011 (UTC)


 * But can I at least block Codrinb and Daizus from editing my map (both the file and the discussion page)? To whom should I talk to? Andrei (talk) 19:48, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Best to ask for it in the current AN/I thread, and see how that goes -- RoninBK T C 19:51, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

It appears the editing war is far from over: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Harassment_of_the_map_of_the_Roman_Empire_and_Barbaricum_in_125_AD_and_of_its_author

I now really need an administrator to intervene in this dispute. Andrei (talk) 20:42, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

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