User talk:RooneyDonal21

RooneyDonal21

Unsourced Irish names
Do not add unsourced self translated Irish names to articles. Per WP:IMOS all Irish names need to be in use and sourced. This means the subject in question needs to use the Irish name and we need a reference to prove this. Currently you're self-translating names into Irish which is WP:OR. This is not acceptable on Wikipedia. If the subject provides an Irish name (not an Irish language newspaper or the like using one they've made up and self-translated) and we can reference it then we can add it. However at this time there are no official Irish names for Northern Ireland train stations, however I'm sure it will come with time. Canterbury Tail talk 18:44, 10 December 2023 (UTC)


 * They are not unsourced you can see them here List of railway stations in Ireland RooneyDonal21 (talk) 21:28, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia cannot be used as a source. You will need to provide a reliable source for every Irish name you try to put into an article, and not just something someone translated one day but evidence of its official usage by the organisation in question. And I just looked at those names, they were made up by a single user one day who didn't source them (there are no sources for the Irish names in that article) and hasn't edited since so they're now removed. Canterbury Tail talk 20:29, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Your edits have been reverted again. It's been explained that you cannot just list where somewhere has made a translation and call it the "official Irish name". The station in question has to actually use the name, as does its owner. An organisation in another country that just translates it for their website does not count as the actual official name of these stations. The names need to be 1) officially used and 2) used by the organisation in question. Your sources are just an organisation in another country making a translation into their own language, they don't appear at the stations or in any official material of the owning organisation. Canterbury Tail talk 14:10, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * ok i will email translink then RooneyDonal21 (talk) 15:08, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * That would then be original research and you would be unable to prove the response from them one way or another. Best way is to wait until they naturally get the Irish names. This will happen, likely in the next year or two I'd imagine. We're not in a hurry on Wikipedia. Canterbury Tail talk 15:20, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * so there's basically nothing I can do RooneyDonal21 (talk) 15:29, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Due to the fact that they don't officially have any Irish names, unfortunately yes. Until they are given official and used Irish names there isn't anything. You can't reference or use something that doesn't exist at this time. <b style="color: Blue;">Canterbury Tail</b> <i style="color: Blue;">talk</i> 17:48, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

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Mass moving of pages
Hi. You appear to have undertaken a "mass move" of a number of articles. While you have not provided any explanations in the majority of related summaries, it seems that you are making these moves based on the understanding that the "new" titles are the WP:OFFICIALNAMEs of the topics. There are a number of issues to consider here: Thanks. Guliolopez (talk) 12:05, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
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 * These are just the official names of each station as provided by the National Transport Authority of Ireland and Irish Rail RooneyDonal21 (talk) 13:50, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Guliolopez RooneyDonal21 (talk) 17:53, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi. If* those are the official names (as used by IÉ or the NTA or FTI or whatever) then that's grand. But that doesn't mean that the articles should all (automatically) be moved or renamed. It is the common name of a subject that determines the title of the article. Not its official name. You might wish to note, for example, that the official name of St Pancras station is "London St Pancras International". But that article isn't titled as such. Because the common name is St Pancras railway station. Ditto Leeds railway station. Which is officially "Leeds City railway station". Etc.
 * (* I say "if", because I'm also not convinced that Dundalk station is "officially" called "Dundalk Clarke railway station". For example. The TFI and IÉ websites list it as "Dundalk (Clarke)". With "(Clarke)" in brackets. Seemingly as a qualifier/clarifier. Not outside brackets as part of a long name. Like "Dundalk Clarke railway station". Whatever the case, even if this were (verifiably) the full/formal/official name, unless it was also the common name, we wouldn't retitle the article.)
 * Cheers. Guliolopez (talk) 19:42, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

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