User talk:Rorndoff

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Chance Phelps
I have no reason to doubt that he was promoted to LCPL, its just that we have so many sources that list him as a PFC (such as this ), that we would need something solid to push back with if it is questioned. I'm sure you understand the importance of getting this right. I'm inclined to trust you and there are enough minor references discovered with Google that it should be OK (and I'll leave it in the article this time), but if you can find a definitive reliable source anywhere, that would make it a slam dunk. Thanks - CosmicPenguin (Talk) 22:39, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

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Phelps's awards
Well, I would say first to start off by reading Citing sources, Reliable sources, and Verifiability (the second of which is probably the most relavant here). I think I was mistaken in mentioning a record, because to be considered a reliable source, it must be publicly available to any reader who might question the accuracy of a source (explained another way, citing a reference that nobody can find is generally discouraged, and not really acceptable unless it's in addition to other confirming sources). I'm afraid that this letter does not really qualify as verifiable unless it is published somewhere (I will note that while it says that self-published sources aren't normally preferred, I think it is the best and only reference we might get in this matter). That said, I will note again that I think it is most likely he does have the good conduct medal, but policy is clear on this matter. It's one of the strange things about wikipedia that being able to verify information is more important than it actually being true. I will note that http://www.run4chance.com/chance.html would make an acceptable source (I know some less than empathic editors who would claim a conflict of interest here, but we will let them alone for now) except for one little dang detail: the caption doesn't match the image! If you can get that fixed, all will be well. I'm also curious, why did the family even request to have the GWOTE converted into an ICM? Seems a bit odd to me, but I can't say that I'm even close to being able to guess the "why" behind that.  bahamut0013  words deeds   19:28, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you mean by pride except as an insinuatioon that I am actively trying to stifle the article that I started. I take great offense if that is what you mean. I have had a hard time remaining objective between my desire to honor an acquantaince of mine and my responsibility to adhere to Wikipedia policies and guidelines. I have stated before that there has been an attempt to delete the article; and I intend not to give anyone an excuse to do so again. This means that I absolutely will not tolerate anything in his biography that violates policy; because the existance of such a violation would be all the excuse the deletionists need to delete the whole thing. You are also mistaken about a changing stance; perhaps you did not understand what I said adequetly, so let me be equally blunt: I believe it is likely he was indeed awarded the medal, but without a reference, I cannot let my personal belief into the article, and must treat it as if I believe he was not.
 * Have you read the links I provided? I am bound by the fact that on Wikipedia, it doesn't matter what you know to be true, it matters what you can prove to be true. Do not presume to accuse me in the future of being difficult for being bound by the rules just as you are in this community. I have poured much effort and time in writing the article, and while I cannot claim ownership, I do find it offensive when someone comes to insult me and denigrate my efforts.  bahamut0013  words deeds   05:04, 30 April 2009 (UTC)