User talk:Roseanna Viafranco

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Nomination of Steve ODell for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Steve ODell is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Steve ODell until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:10, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

May 2014
Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles, or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion debates, as you did with Steve ODell. Otherwise, it may be difficult to create consensus. If you oppose the deletion of an article, please comment at the respective page instead. Thank you. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 03:51, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Possible conflict of interest
Are you Steve ODell's wife? If you are, then you should read our guideline on conflicts of interest. Writing a biography of your spouse is highly discouraged. It's difficult to maintain a neutral point of view. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 09:13, 18 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I am his everything (wife, assist, co host, administrator). I understand the conflict of interest. Must I change my account name? I work for Steve ODell. Roseanna Viafranco 09:31, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
 * You don't have to change your username or anything. I would suggest that you try to minimize your edits related to your job and spouse, though.  The standard advice is that you make suggestions on the article's talk page, where other editors can discuss the desired changes.  That way, it avoids the problem of bias.  You're always welcome to fix incorrect information.  The major problem is that you're not going to see much activity on Steve ODell's page, as it's a bit obscure. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 09:58, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
 * My purpose is not to generate activity on this page. Only to be acknowledged by Wikipedia. - Roseanna Viafranco 10:05, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, but the problem is that you lack neutrality on these topics. You can't effectively judge whether the information you add is biased.  It's best to let other people write these articles.  If the topic is notable, someone else will eventually do it.  If you have to create it yourself, that's a sign that maybe the topic is not notable.  Or you could request that someone else create it at one of our forums, such as the teahouse or the helpdesk, both of which can help guide new users. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 10:29, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I did request help. I submitted this article to wiki admin. I accidently move draft: steve odell to article after submission and now this is where Im at. Would you like to publish it? Or help me to get it all straightened out? Whichever.
 * If you'd like the article moved to draft space or user space, I'm sure an admin can help you do that and close the deletion discussion. It shouldn't be controversial.  I'm honestly not sure if I can do that.  If you would like the page moved to draft space, try posting this to your user talk page:   If you'd rather keep the article published, then you don't really need to do anything, but it would help you to find more reliable sources, so that you can make a better case for keeping the article.  If you move it to draft space (or your user page), then you won't have to worry about deletion any more.  You should still keep in mind our guidelines on conflicts of interest, but I don't think it really matters for an article in your own user space.  I'm sorry that I don't know more about draft space, but it's not something that I've spent much time researching. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 11:24, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
 * You really should put a copy of the article in your userspace. If it gets deleted you could lose all your work!  Also, if you move the article to your userspace ("userfy"), then the  entire edit history  would be saved, as well.  That's entirely up to you. –  Paine Ellsworth  C LIMAX !  12:55, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Your signature
Hi, I notice that in almost every post that you make on a discussion page, then adds a signature. I think that this is because you have a custom signature which does not meet the requirements for links in signatures. If so, please fix it. -- Red rose64 (talk) 16:31, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
 * signature done Pona (talk) 23:19, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Steve ODell


A tag has been placed on Steve ODell, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an acceptable page. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item G11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

If you can indicate why the subject of this page is not blatant advertising,. Clicking that button will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit |the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. You are welcome to edit the page to fix this problem, but please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. As well as removing promotional phrasing, it helps to add factual encyclopaedic information to the page, and add citations from independent reliable sources to ensure that the page will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. duffbeerforme (talk) 23:22, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I have chosen to

This article appears to be written like an advertisement. Please help improve it by rewriting promotional content from a neutral point of view and removing any inappropriate external links. . Trying to neutralize the article. I have legitimate documents to prove these events,see them on subjects website. It was good then and is good now. Can you make suggestions? Or is this a lost cause? Pona (talk) 03:06, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Steve ODell (disambiguation)


A tag has been placed on Steve ODell (disambiguation) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G6 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an orphaned disambiguation page which either
 * disambiguates two or fewer extant Wikipedia pages and whose title ends in "(disambiguation)" (i.e., there is a primary topic); or
 * disambiguates no (zero) extant Wikipedia pages, regardless of its title.

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time. Please see the disambiguation page guidelines for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 06:48, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Steve ODell


A tag has been placed on Steve ODell, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, you can place a request here. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 16:10, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Deleted article
I've deleted the article because you moved it back to the mainspace without actually dealing with any of the issues that were brought up at AfD. The problem is that not only was it still promotional in tone, but none of the sources really firmly established notability per WP:CREATIVE. There was some coverage, but not really enough to firmly show notability- especially since many of the sources didn't actually mention him at all. Sources MUST mention the subject in question (your husband) and most of all, they have to be fully independent of the subject. That's where the other part of the issue comes in: tourist websites stand to gain by promoting your husband- especially since he worked with some of them. They're there to make money and drum up tourism, so they will always have a conflict of interest of sorts. They can be used to back up small, trivial information but they cannot show notability in and of themselves. The thing to remember is that we're not doubting that he exists or has worked, but whether or not the accomplishments have received enough coverage to firmly establish notability for ODell. Of the sources on the page, only this link was usable as far as showing notability goes and we need far more than that. I've deleted the page and if you want to continue trying to re-create it, I would really, REALLY recommend that you go through WP:AfC and that you get a very, very experienced editor to help you out. WikiProject Honduras is a good place to start out and I'll mention you on their talk page. I just think that in this instance it would probably be better if you maybe left it up to someone else to start the page because you are so very, very closely related to the topic. Not only is he your husband, but you're business partners with him and stand to greatly benefit emotionally and financially from this page being on here. I can understand that- you think your husband is notable and amazing, and it's frustrating that the notability guidelines can't really see that. But he still has to pass out notability guidelines and it all boils down to coverage in reliable sources that are independent of you, your husband, anyone representing him, and anyone he has worked or is working for. I really think that it is near to impossible for you to see things in the neutral manner that we require here, so I'd really recommend that you see if someone from WP:HONDURAS to see if he passes notability guidelines and then try to work on an article. (On a side note, please understand that if you pay someone to create the article, the WP:COI guidelines would still pertain. I'll post a longer explanation.) Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   11:17, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Conflict of interest
Hello, Roseanna Viafranco. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest.

All editors are required to comply with Wikipedia's neutral point of view content policy. People who are very close to a subject often have a distorted view of it, which may cause them to inadvertently edit in ways that make the article either too flattering or too disparaging. People with a close connection to a subject are not absolutely prohibited from editing about that subject, but they need to be especially careful about ensuring their edits are verified by reliable sources and writing with as little bias as possible.

If you are very close to a subject, here are some ways you can reduce the risk of problems:


 * Avoid or exercise great caution when editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with.
 * Avoid linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Spam).
 * Exercise great caution so that you do not accidentally breach Wikipedia's content policies.

Please familiarize yourself with relevant content policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you.