User talk:Rosebutterfly

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October 2019
Hi! Please don’t add content without a WP:Reliable source as by Wikipedia standards. Soon enough someone will report on the content you want to include and then we can add it. You need to hold off until then. Gleeanon409 (talk) 05:15, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi. I added correct info last night and it was deleted and someone else added their info instead. I am very close to these two people and only want info that is correct on this page.. They met in February 2018 and Corey Baker dance needs to also be included in the info. I am a very reliable source as I was around and involved during this time. Thank you.
 * I understand your reasoning but that’s not how Wikipedia works. We have to be able to WP:Verify everything in what Wikipedia deems are reliable sources. You may know it was actually February but the only reliable source pegs it at April, I think Spring is a fair compromise. The dance company isn’t sourced at all, neither was that he was also a teacher although that seems quite probable.
 * I did add a WP:Redlink as I think an article is very likely to have enough sources. Gleeanon409 (talk) 08:34, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi. If you look on (CIMTSS) Facebook page you will see it is very probable Corey was a teacher also and that the date is February and Corey Baker Dance is sourced. All the correct info is there. Thanks.
 * WP:Facebook and other social networking sites are generally not reliable; use is suspect in most cases. As a rule we look for articles in newspapers, magazines, or even television reports. Gleeanon409 (talk) 16:01, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Jonathan Groff was on the Stephen Colbert show last night and mentioned Corey and him both teaching at CIMTSS, Why put Corey`s name in red as it goes to a site that doesn`t exist. Also you have posted incorrect information as it was February when they met. Corey Baker Dance is all over social media. Corey is much more than Jonathan Groffs partner, You have had no problem highlighting info about CIMITSS. Yes they met there.
 * I’ll check into the Stephen Colbert content.
 * We have to adhere to reporting what is verifiable in reliable sources; please give up on using social media for that.
 * I have good news and bad news for you: bad news is that even though Corey Baker Dance is verifiable, there seems to be zero reason right yet to include on Jonathan Groff; the good news is that the WP:Redlink for Corey is because he definitely can have an article. I’ll look into writing myself. Gleeanon409 (talk) 19:03, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

The reason I mentioned Corey Baker Dance is because beside Jonathan`s other partners actor has been added. Thank you for giving me that good news. You will see Corey amongst other amazing creations, was the first ever choreographer, (Corey Baker Dance), ever to take a ballet dancer to Antarctica and made a dance there called Antarctica the first dance. https://coreybakerdance.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_sq59Ajwv4 https://www.facebook.com/OfficialCoreyBakerDance/videos/2076309775992178/ ( BBC interview ) I look forward to seeing this article. Please feel free to contact me if you need any thing verified. Could you let me know when this is completed please.Thank you. Hi I would like to know if you intend to write an article on Corey as mentioned above by you over seven days ago? If not I will.
 * Sorry, didn’t see any of this until today. I’ll look into starting the Corey article. Gleeanon409 (talk) 05:57, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Looking forward to reading article. Thank you. Hi I’m not sure if you are aware or seen this Wikipedia article on Corey?. https://en.everybodywiki.com/Corey_Baker All information is correct except a small piece in the Career segment.He didn’t make a music video for popular Australian band Fat Freddy's drop.
 * I only use WP:Reliable sources. Gleeanon409 (talk) 12:21, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

I will be informing both Corey and Jonathan and making a complaint to Wikipedia. I have been very patient and understanding about you only being able to use reliable sources but there is so much reliable information out there, but for some reason you are choosing info that is not correct and not necessary. If you cant be bias towards Corey I will ask for someone else to edit Coreys page or I will myself. He was born in 1990 he is 29.

Please do not be prejudice in your writing against Corey as its obvious you are specifically choosing info that is especially, in a way considered to be unfair and prejudice. Thanks

October 2019
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Hello this is a response to your message. I have left you constructive messages on your talk page with a lot of helpful links, which have useful up to date sourced information which you seem to be ignoring. It seems you would rather use out of date interviews as your source while being selective in what information you are choosing from that, to publish in your article.


 * Building quality articles takes time and research. Just because I didn’t already use the sources you want doesn’t mean they are being ignored. Your patience is appreciated. Gleeanon409 (talk) 08:54, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Corey Baker
First, do not edit when the {In use} template is there, you’re just slowing me down. It will probably take me a week to go through all the sources and I’ll adjust the text every time.

Second, I only use reliable sources, there’s no point in doing otherwise.

Please wait a while and see how the article grows. Gleeanon409 (talk) 19:05, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Until you are fair in your writing I will continue to edit. If you don’t like it then be fair in your writing. You know my edits are correct. If you don’t want to be slowed down then be fair in your writing and don’t be bias in what you choose to write.

I am only editing info that isn’t correct regardless of that info you are referring to, which is a few years old. There is much later correct info out there which you seem to be disregarding.
 * If a later source updates the info, so will I. It takes time to do this. If you can’t be patient then Wikipedia probably isn’t for you. Gleeanon409 (talk) 19:33, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

If you cant be bias in your selection on info you chose to publish then perhaps writing this article is not for you. The info that was on here before which you deleted was well sourced but you chose to delete it and put your chose of info on here. There are a few people observing this page. There is plenty of info of his date of birth also. June 6th 1990.
 * i only use reliable sources, if it’s in there I’ll get to it. Until then your edits are disruptive. Gleeanon409 (talk) 01:46, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Your selective choice of content you are using is very obvious in your intent  of this article!

Here is sourced information that you chose to delete and instead put your own twist to this article. https://en.everybodywiki.com/Corey_Baker

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/b042jpjt https://www.noted.co.nz/culture/theatre/corey-baker-ballet-in-antarctica-has-a-message-for-our-time/ https://www.onedanceuk.org/dance-awards-shortlist-shines-spotlight-on-sector/ https://danz.org.nz/in+conversation+corey+baker https://rnzb.org.nz/backstage/leaders/corey-baker/ https://dancemagazine.com.au/2018/06/new-zealand-dance-news-june-2018/ http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/CU1805/S00361/corey-baker-helps-aspiring-kiwi-dancers.htm https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11950614 Reliable sources. Purves, Libby. "Midweek - Gruff Rhys, Brigid Keenan, Richard Kerridge, Corey Baker - BBC Sounds". BBC Sounds. BBC. Retrieved 20 November 2018 Here is proof of Coreys birth date. You mentioned if a source updates the info, then so will you. I have updated links with correct info for you to source but once again you are deleting it.

October 2019
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Why is it ok to delete prior information and then proceed to add content from years old when there is plenty of updated and recent information available? I wasn’t aware I was in an edit war. I am sharing information which is neither bias or incorrect. The writer is using information from one article years old and being selective in what he uses. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rosebutterfly (talk • contribs) 10:45, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not saying anything about the content of either your or their edits. Repeated reverting, which includes making the same changes over and over again, constitutes edit warring. Try to avoid edit warring and discuss on the talk page when a disagreement arises. — MarkH21 (talk) 10:48, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi MarkH21 I have posted this on mine and Gleason shared talk page which you recommended for us. I wanted to share this with you so you are aware I’m not interested in being involved in any  edit warring.

Hi Gleeanon409. I would like to start fresh lets turn this around and hopefully we can work together on this draft making it suitable for mainspace. As you have mentioned to me building quality articles takes time and research. Lets use this opportunity to contribute constructively and make this article neutral, non-combative, interesting and informative. I am happy to leave the writing up to you and I can help with finding varied and up to date sources of information.

PERSONAL LIFE: Earlier Life Career 2012 to present:

I have done some research and found a varied of up to date references which I hope will be useful for you. As you can see I have added a note under each link making it easier for you to consider the material.

( 1 )

The world's first ballet in Antarctica has a message for our time

https://www.noted.co.nz › culture › culture-theatre › corey-baker-ballet-in-...

May 22, 2018: Included in this article it states Corey`s birthday details and using the date this article was written you are able to work out his age and year he was born.

( 2 ) Antartica: The First Dance choreographer and director ... https://www.mandy.com/news/antartica-the-first-dance-corey-baker-choreography

info on leaving school and on being a Choreographer

( 3 ) A Corey Baker work created in Antarctica comes to ... - Sarah Catherall

https://www.sarahcatherall.co.nz › 2018/11 › Corey-Baker-NZ-Ballet

Leaving school and being a Choreographer

( 4 )

Corey Baker - EverybodyWiki Bios & Wiki https://en.everybodywiki.com › Corey_Baker

Full date of birth and Career information

( 5 )

Antarctica: The First Dance - Fabuk Magazine https://fabukmagazine.com › antarctica-the-first-dance

Apr 12, 2018 - ANTARCTICA: THE FIRST DANCE, the first time a dance film has been ... The passion project of 28-year-old choreographer Corey Baker

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DancerDose: Corey Baker - “Antarctica: The First Dance ... https://www.starquestdance.com › corey-baker-dancer

Baker would later drop out of school at age 15. In order to dedicate himself fully to the study of ballet.

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Corey Baker - One Dance UK

https://www.onedanceuk.org › choreographer-archive › corey-baker

Career 2012 – present

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Corey Baker - Movement Agency https://www.movement-agency.com › sites › default › files › talent › resume

Resume of all his work and dates

( 9 )

Corey Baker — RNZB

https://rnzb.org.nz › backstage › leaders › corey-baker

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Dancing on Icebergs to highlight climate change | Stuff.co.nz

Information on his latest project in Hong Kong.

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Chilling first dance film in Antarctica smashes four world ... https://www.dancewriter.com.au/qa/chilling-first-dance-film-in-antarctica-smashes-four.

Chilling first dance film in Antarctica smashes four world records. set four world records – first dancer, first choreographer, first dance performance and first dance creation on Antarctica.

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https://www.facebook.com/OfficialCoreyBakerDance/videos/2076309775992178/ UzpfSTI5NDM4NzM0MTg2MjoxMDE1NTM4NDgxNDk0MTg2Mw

Corey on the BBC describing the experience of creating AntarcticaDance BBC interview with choreographer Corey Baker

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In Conversation with Corey Baker, DANZ danz.org.nz/in conversation corey baker

Left school at 15 and being a Choreographer

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Antarctica New Zealand Community Engagement Programme ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctica_New_Zealand_Community..

The Antarctica New Zealand Community Engagement Programme is for applicants with a genuine interest in Antarctica and the environment, who can express and communicate this in new and different ways, to reach a wide audience of New Zealanders.

I would like to add that regarding Corey`s personal life in the article, I really don`t think it is relevant that this info, `Corey was married to a half Irish and half Yorkshire man’ needs to be included. There is zero reason to include this information. If you thinks its necessary then publish that he was married to an UK dancer but is now divorced. It has nothing to do with Corey being a Choreographer and your opening sentence neutrally says Corey is an award winning Choreographer so lets continue to keep away from anything that is unrelated to him being a Choreographer. Thanks.

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