User talk:Rosiestep/Archive 48

Invitation to attend a Southern California Regional mini Unconference
Who: All Wikipedians & Wikimedians

What: Southern California Regional mini Unconference.

When: Sunday 3 March 2019, 2:00PM PST / 1400 until 4:10PM PST / 1610

Where: Philippe's at Chinatown, Los Angeles

Sponsor: San Diego Wikimedians User Group ( US-SAN )

Your host:

Please add your username to our attendees list so we know how many will be attending, due to the limited size of the cafe.

(Delivered: 00:38, 10 February 2019 (UTC) You can unsubscribe from future invitations to San Diego Wikimedians User Group events by removing your name from the WikiProject San Diego mass mailing list & the Los Angeles mass mailing list.)


 * Hi and thanks for the invite which I guess I had deleted without adding the date to my calendar (bummed). Hope everyone had a great time! I looked for info about it on-wiki but couldn't find anything so if you have any links to the program, or slidedecks, or etc., would really enjoy looking at them. Thanks! P.S. Missed you on the last WALRUS call, but if you are able to attend the next one, I'm sure folks would enjoy hearing about the event. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:45, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry about missing the WALRUS calls. I always put them in my calendar, but something always comes up in real life to distract me when the time comes to call in. I often remember later that evening, or the next day, and regret missing them.
 * There is a picture of all the attendees who came, and some camaraderie was had. Prior to the meetup, some of those who came, went to the Art+Feminism event which occurred hours before.
 * No one had any power point presentations to show. There was some discussion of doing a joint Wiknic in August or September, and hopefully something meaningful comes of that.
 * Thanks for reaching out to me, and hope you have been well.-- RightCow LeftCoast ( Moo ) 22:52, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

April editathons at Women in Red
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:02, 25 March 2019 (UTC) via MassMessaging

(Please excuse this post if it is a duplicate!)

Finally had a chance to fill this out some this weekend. Not sure how well I did...there's only so much one can do with AWB in this case. But I think I've done about as much as I can. Sorry...didn't mean to let it fall by the wayside as much as it had. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 04:27, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Absolutely no worries about that, . 174 entries is more than I thought were possible. Truly appreciate what you do. --Rosiestep (talk) 06:05, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Given the parameters I set, 174 may end up being more than are supposed to be there in the first place...but we won't speak of that. :-) Happy to be of help. Happy editing, as always...think you'll be finding yourself out this way any time soon? I'd come West, but my travel is pretty well booked for the summer right now, I'm afraid. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 13:51, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Lol,, truth be told, I'm set to land at IAD @ 4:25PM, but my connecting flight to Frankfurt departs at 6:25PM, and then on to Berlin for Wikimedia Summit. BTW, I checked out a handful of the 174, and they all seem to be fine. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:09, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, enjoy your lovely view of western Fairfax County, however brief your sojourn. :-) I'll be at Dulles myself in a couple of months, but going somewhere completely different from Frankfurt :-) -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:16, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

WiR mailing list
Hi there, Rosie. Sorry to bother you while you are off to Berlin but I must say I'm rather surprised at your changes to our main mailing list. The fact that it's no longer linked directly from the WiR template makes it more difficult for me to add names and to check whether new members have already added their names. Now it is divided into three parts, meaning that I need to check through the various sections every day to see if there are additions or deletions. I'll try to cope for the next few days while you are away but it would make it much easier if you could restore the old list and link it directly to our WiR template.--Ipigott (talk) 10:22, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi . While 3 lists aren't ideal for the reasons you state, 1 list with 630 names (and growing) isn't working because MassMessenger has trouble delivering to such a long list (for 2 months in a row). Perhaps a compromise solution would be to have both: (a) maintain the long list as we've historically done; and (b) monthly, before running MassMessenger, that editor would copy/paste the A-F names into the A-F list, the G-N names into the G-N list, and the remainder into the O-Z list, and then run MassMessenger 3 times. Adding to the convo as she works on this, too. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:41, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * OK, now I see why you've cut it up into three sections. Is it really longer than the lists for Signpost and Glam or do they have another method of mailing? As you probably know, many of the people on the list have never done anything more than register on Women in Red, others have only edited for a day or two after an editathon and have then completely disppeared. I would say the large majority have not been active on Wikipedia over the last three months. I once suggested cleaning it up but I didn't receive any support. It may be time to ask all those on the list to confirm that they still wish to receive our monthly updates. That would be an easy way of cutting the list down to size. (Otherwise we could compare it with the WiR Members list which automatically removes the names of those who are no longer active. There is a long, long list of inactive members here.)--Ipigott (talk) 16:25, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * , personally (IMHO), I don't favor removing any names unless they become a redlink or want to opt-out. The reason for this is "free advertising", e.g. every time our Invite lands on an editor's page, it has an opportunity to be viewed by pagestalkers or other editors who drop by with a new comment. BTW, I didn't even realize there was an "Inactive members" list. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:59, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * You live and learn. It's been there since the days of WikiProject XX and there has always been a link to it from the active members list. I've just noticed that those on WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/A-F have not received the April invitation. Perhaps you can try to send it out again.--Ipigott (talk) 17:13, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * , done. And I can that we need to continue with conversations about this so that no one is left off. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:13, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for remailing. Let's leave further discussion on mailing lists until you return from Berlin. In the meantime, I'll just make any necessary additions to new lists you have created. They can always be re-entered on a central list later if we need one.--Ipigott (talk) 11:00, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
 * , did we ever figure out whether it goes to more names than Signpost? That just seems so unlikely. --valereee (talk) 16:43, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Perhaps can answer this.--Ipigott (talk) 07:11, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, I really don't know. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:33, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:Internet Archive author
I'm the author of this template and occasionally monitor usages. It can sometimes work perfectly out of the box, other times it requires adjustments as documented, and sometimes it doesn't work at all and shouldn't be used. Have to click the link and make sure the results look good. -- Green  C  15:48, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the notification, . I see you've been removing the template from some of the women writer biographies I've created:
 * Lillie Berg
 * Nellie V. Mark
 * Novella Jewell Trott
 * Nellie George Stearns
 * Ellen Alida Rose
 * Carrie M. Shoaff
 * Moïsette Olier
 * Esther Housh
 * Ellen A. Dayton Blair
 * Cordelia Throop Cole
 * Mary Gray Peck
 * Eva Craig Graves Doughty
 * But what if in the future, their works become available on Internet Archive? Some of us are working off-wiki on making additional women's biographies and women's works available. If their work becomes available on IA, and you've removed the template, how will the template be restored? cc: --Rosiestep (talk) 17:31, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Great to see you covering BLPs
Hi Rosie! I've been reading your recent additions on Sophie Bessis, Margarita María Birriel Salcedo and Judith Forrai. Great stuff! Have you finally given up your aversion to BLPs? I must say, I also prefer to deal with historical figures but from time to time it seems important to cover living people too. You are setting a good example. Keep it up.---Ipigott (talk) 17:29, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, . Not sure how many more BLPs I'll do this month, but these three seemed to suit my mindset in the last few days; and, as you say, it seems important to cover some living people from time to time. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:46, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Well, this is embarassing...
I created James Wilson Robertson (educator), based on the list of people with Canadian Dictionary of biography entries that needed an entry. He is apparently the same person as James Wilson Robertson (dairyman). I'm not sure how you want to merge/what title, but I realized this when I was about to put the finishing touches on it... TonyBallioni (talk) 20:16, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi there, . I merged the dairyman article into the better-developed educator article using WP:MERGE as my go-by. It's now ready for you to put the finishing touches on it. :) --Rosiestep (talk) 21:08, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Interesting grant proposal on open license content
Rosie: I think you will be interested in this new grant proposal on open license content.--Ipigott (talk) 11:22, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Madison/1000 Women in Religion 2019, Wikipedia Meetup page
Thank you Rosie for the help. I have added a link for signing as an editor. I will continue to make edits as I have time. I also signed up for the Madison list.Dzingle1 (talk) 20:33, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Super! I'll get an Invite created and distributed within 24 hours. A friendly suggestion, if you have time and inclination: consider adding a few more articles to the list on your meetup page as it will be difficult for everyone to edit the same biography all at once. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:53, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Shulamit Reinharz
You know I find it impossible to write in main space because I am so slow and have to evaluate lots of sources. So, my dilemma is this, Reinharz *sigh* is a redirect to her husband. My draft is here. I do not know if the best solution to move it to mainspace is to paste my info to the redirect page (which means all the edit history is lost); delete the redirect and simply move my document to her name after that is done; or to merge the two pages. None of which I can do except the first one. Can you help? Thanks :) SusunW (talk) 21:15, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh yes, I asked to help with linking up all the other instances of her name in the encyclopedia as I don't have the authority or skill to wave that wand either. I told him I'd let him know when it was no longer a redirect, so hopefully pinging him here, he'll know when you answer. Again, thank you both for your help. SusunW (talk) 21:19, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay, I came back from talking to the gardener to discover that was working on the same article and moved it to mainspace with a photo! But, I still need to merge my info with the info that is there and don't know how to best do that. Probably going to be off line for several hours, sorry. SusunW (talk) 22:55, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , I'm going to merge the info from User talk:SusunW/Sandbox draft 4 into Shulamit Reinharz, following these instructions: WP:MERGETEXT. Per the instruction, once the merge is complete, it'll be up to the two of you to do the clean-up ("Ideally, do any necessary copyediting and rearranging in a separate, second edit rather than when you first paste the moved text to simplify attribution."). Susun, a friendly FYI, in order for the edit history to remain intact you cannot delete the sandbox page. --Rosiestep (talk) 00:46, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Rosiestep (talk) 00:57, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks Rosie. I'll work on it tomorrow. Just got home and am bushed. SusunW (talk) 03:30, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * It takes a village, but happily, she now has a full article, a photo and is integrated into the encyclopedia :) SusunW (talk) 15:59, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Indeed, it takes a village, ; and what a great article you and created. One more role model for all those girls out there with impractical dreams. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:39, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * how cool that we were working on the same woman! I wanted to write about her because I was very grrr mad angry that she had a redirect, but her husband didn't. :( She was so influential! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:16, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Also, Susun made the article so much better! She has a gift! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:17, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , yes on the grrr mad angry. I actually said pretty much that several days ago when I told Rosie I was going to start working on her. Great minds... I mean she raised all the money, found the hardware store, designed the space AND oversaw the construction of the whole Center because administrators told her it couldn't be done. Not to mention all of her academic work. I love that you found a photo we could use. SusunW (talk) 22:09, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Believe it or not, the photo was already on Commons! I just stumbled onto it. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 23:09, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , Well, I'm loving working on gender studies academics. I am thrilled how well some of these biographies integrate into Wikipedia, their name already included in existing articles (my most recent example is Jeannine Davis-Kimball). --Rosiestep (talk) 23:55, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I know. I had Steve wave that wand over the Hadassah-Brandeis Institute and Reinharz. There were tons of entries for both. I am really glad we did this and think it will make a fabulous annual event. Fascinating article on Davis-Kimball! SusunW (talk) 00:07, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Even better example is Serena Nanda. While the article is basically a stub, her name is mentioned so many times in existing Wikipedia articles, that I thought it was the right thing to do to create her biography. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:17, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

another really great one Rosie! These women who pioneered gender studies are who gave us all a place in our history. I am amazed at how many women's stories they uncovered in just 1/2 a century and how many more are still buried. SusunW (talk) 05:12, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I think we have come to the point where their work is taken for granted. :( Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:22, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , indeed... although I think their work has been taken for granted by most of humanity, since the early days of gender studies. But as long as we keep doing our part in shining a light on them (writing their biographies; tweeting about them), they will not be forgotten. Also, once we get our .org website up (I sent another email to Kirill yesterday asking about it), we can feature them in some way, e.g. a tab or some such. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:37, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I really like that idea. It 's going to be awesome to have a site. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:58, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I think that we are at the place where very few remember when women weren't part of history. That's a good thing, but the flip side is as Rosie says, if we don't keep writing about the women who brought women's spheres into academia, the very thing they were striving against will recur. I cannot wait to have our own website up and going. SusunW (talk) 19:44, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I have very purposeful in translating biogs about gender studies women from non-English speaking countries. Like suffrage, women/gender studies become a "movement" all over the world at about the same time (1960s-80s). While suffragists were quick to form international relationships, and engage in international conferences (because there were many more of them), women/gender studies academics were often 1 or 2 deep per country. It is my goal that "eventually", we'll have biography representing a women/gender studies academic from every nation. Frankly, just creating a redlist of their names seems daunting. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:03, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I think it feels daunting, because it is daunting! And it's frustrating to see how men and women are covered differently. I mean, look at the US Democratic primary. The women are downplayed and often ignored by the media. It's a pervasive thing that seeps into everything. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:47, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Sarab Abu-Rabia-Queder


The article Sarab Abu-Rabia-Queder has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp/dated tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. SSSB (talk) 17:53, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , my goodness, you are too fast with your template-adding. Check out my edit history, particularly when I do translations. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:57, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

May you join this month's editathons from WiR!
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:17, 27 April 2019 (UTC) via MassMessaging

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Wikipedia:Meetup/Madison/1000 Women in Religion 2019
Hi Rosie, The Madison edit-a-thon went well. 9 people including me. We got almost everyone signed up as a Wikipedia editor, got their user pages turned to blue and made a few edits. A Wikipedian from Madison joined us. He has been a Wikipedia administrator for 14 or 15 years and was a great help. Thanks for sending that invite out!! Do you have suggestions for getting help from Wikipedians in Vancouver on June 12? It was a very helpful addition to have Sean there.

What I am really writing about is the meeting you suggested for May 10 or 11 about getting the 1000 Women in Religion list transferred to Wikidata. I can be available either day. I am cc'ing Janice Poss as she is very involved with the list. Brenda Bailey-Hainer and Margot Lyon from Atla and Polly Hamlen from the 1000 Women in Religion committee are also interested in helping with the list. Let me know what will work on your end and I will try to coordinate everyone's participation on my end.

Thanks, Colleen--Dzingle1 (talk) 01:39, 4 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi ,
 * I've been wondering how things went in Madison, and I'm glad to hear it was successful. It is very helpful to have a veteran Wikipedian around at these events, particularly an admin. Bravo all the way around!
 * Regarding Vancouver next steps:
 * Are you comfortable with creating a Meetup page using the Madison meetup page (Meetup/Madison/1000 Women in Religion 2019) as a go-by? It could be named: Meetup/Vancouver/1000 Women in Religion 2019.
 * What is the venue for the Vancouver event? Let's see if there's a photo we can use from Commons.
 * I can't find a list of Vancouver-area editors. But I found this master meetup page for Vancouver: Meetup/Vancouver. Per note by, there's going to be an informal meetup on Sunday, 2019 June 9. If you're already in Vancouver on that day, you might want to stop by. In any case, you might want to leave a message on 's talkpage asking if there's a list of Vancouver-area editors; perhaps he knows where that's kept, and can share it with us. I'd be glad to send out a MassMessage again.
 * Before we can MassMessage Vancouver editors, we need to create an invitation. The Madison invitation is here: Wikipedia talk:Meetup/Madison/1000 Women in Religion 2019. The Vancouver one should be created here: Wikipedia talk:Meetup/Vancouver/1000 Women in Religion 2019. Let me know if you're comfortable creating it?
 * Regarding May 10 or 11. I have to get back to you regarding if there will be time to schedule a call. I will be attending the 2019 LD4 Conference on Linked Data in Libraries and our schedules during the conference, plus mornings and evenings are packed. That said, if we can make time for a call, we will. Do you want to send me a shareable link to the spreadsheet via email? --Rosiestep (talk) 02:15, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi and Rosie. Yes, if you'd like to join our meetup on the 9th, that of course would be wonderful. The only list I know of of Vancouver editors is the Category:Wikipedians in Vancouver. Rosie, if you're going to mass-message them, please also mention the June 9 meetup and the fact that future meetups will be announced at Meetup/Vancouver. Please feel free to mention the edit-a-thon there. Another place to spread the word is the Cascadia region user group, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cascadia_Wikimedians#Mailing_lists_and_social_media . Depending on the time of the edit-a-thon, I might be able to help. Good luck with your project :) Clayoquot (talk &#124; contribs) 03:32, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * ,, Thanks for the connections. I do not arrive in Vancouver until the evening of June 11.  The Edit-a-thon at Atla's (formally the American Theological Library Association) Annual meeting is scheduled for Wednesday, June 12, 8 am - 12 pm at the Sheraton Vancouver Wall Centre, 1088 Burrard Street, Vancouver, BC.  I will get a meetup page constructed in the next day or two and post it here.  Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated.Dzingle1 (talk) 16:04, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 * , Here is the invitation for the Wikipedia edit-a-thon at the "Atla Annual 2019" in Vancouver on Wednesday, June 12.  I hope you and other area Wikipedians will be able to help us out as we work with new Wikipedia editors at this conference. Wikipedia talk:Meetup/Vancouver/1000 Women in Religion 2019. Dzingle1 (talk) 01:40, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
 * , Hi Rosie, Thanks for the email with all the suggestions for the 1000 Women in Religion List.  That all seems doable especially in the first small increment of 10-20 women from the list.  Later this week I will make the attempt to create a Wikidata item for 1000 Women in Religion.  I looked at the item for the Art + Feminism group.  Their edit page appears under visual editor.  I am assuming I can copy and paste the same way as you do when it is not under visual editor.  I will find out! The main reason to meet at this point would be to bring others on the 1000 Women in Religion Committee up to speed on what needs to happen with the list.  If you are able to determine a time that works for a meeting, I will see who I can gather together.  We have a meeting of the larger Women's Caucus tomorrow.  If we have a time scheduled by then I can inform people at this meeting as well as contacting key people individually.  Let me know if it works and I will go from there.Dzingle1 (talk) 16:20, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, glad my email regarding development of the spreadsheet of women's names was helpful. You can ask for help in creating a Wikidata item regarding 1000 Women in Religion on the Women in Red talkpage (Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red); someone is bound to be responsive. FYI, that Wikidata item should be connected with the Wikipedia item, which is currently Meetup/1000 Women in Religion, but I think should be moved to WikiProject 1000 Women in Religion first.. Please do ask about this on the Women in Red talkpage for more opinions, and when you do, ping (as I'm doing now), as they may have some ideas about all of this.  I will be back home and can join a call on Monday afternoon (May 13), or any time on Tuesday (May 14) (reminder, I'm on California time), but am otherwise traveling through Memorial Day. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:15, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 * are we creating a new WikiProject or will this be part of WiR? Thanks! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 22:44, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 * , At the Women's Caucus meeting this afternoon I will see if Janice or other key people have availability on Monday (afternoon) or Tuesday (all day). If they do not have availability, then I think the first step is for me follow through on the suggestions you provided via email (which I need to do anyway) and then connecting about that after Memorial Day.  I will let you know in the morning. Dzingle1 (talk) 15:43, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
 * , Hi Rosie. I created Meetup/Vancouver/1000 Women in Religion 2019 and the invitation at Wikipedia talk:Meetup/Vancouver/1000 Women in Religion 2019.  If you have edits let me know. Thanks for your help. Dzingle1 (talk) 01:32, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

... I think it's more like a project like A+F or AfroCrowd. They have a .org website:— ""1000 Women in Religion Project. A partnership between the Women’s Task Force of the Parliament of World Religions and the Women’s Caucus of the American Academy of Religion and Society of Biblical Literature. The Women's Task Force of the Parliament of World Religions is partnering with the Women's Caucus of the American Academy of Religion and Society of Biblical Literature to highlight women's contributions to religious, spiritual, and wisdom traditions worldwide. Women's contributions have been under-recognized in many fields, particularly world religions. The “1000 Women in Religion Project” seeks to add over 1,000 names and contributions of religious/spiritual/wisdom women to Wikipedia, the largest encyclopedia in the world."" They have calls during the month. They hold in-person training/editathons. They are improving and creating articles. Although they are developing two large lists on a spreadsheet (I've seen it and it's too data-rich to be a crowd-sourced list), who they are and what they do is more than the list(s). But that's just my $0.02. It may be helpful if you could hop on a call, too, although I know you are super busy. They are trying to schedule it for Monday or Tuesday. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:47, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I might be able to do a call depending on the time. Let me know and I'll give it the ol' college try! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 20:52, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Looking at 's "bluelist" more carefully, there are 367 names with en-wiki articles; and 19 names with other language wiki articles. What if -- after Colleen creates the Wikidata item -- we get someone to add "on focus list of Wikimedia project" to all the Wikidata items which correspond to Wikipedia articles under the scope of 1000 Women in Religion? It would be interesting to see what that list would look like with 367 blue links and 19 redlinks. BTW, this is why I want all the Women in Red Wikidata lists to have a column for # of sitelinks. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:59, 8 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Rosie, is your list based on the long list of names Colleen communicated by email or is there some other list? -- I'm rather confused. As for a separate project along the lines of A+F, I'm a bit sceptical. Until now, the number of new articles they have created has been very small and there do not appear to be any regular contributors. I suggest we see what kind of results emerge for Colleen's other planned meetups. If there is sufficient interest, we could of course arrange another WiR priority on women in religion, although last time around the results were rather disappointing. If that were to be the case, then we could try to expand WikiProject Women in Red/Religion 1000 and/or WikiProject Women in Red/Religion for inclusion in our August or September events.--Ipigott (talk) 09:37, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

, the point I am trying to make is that 1000 Women in Religion is two things: (a) a non-wiki organization which needs its own page (currently Meetup/1000 Women in Religion) to coordinate its work and describe its conferences; (b) an under-development spreadsheet with multiple lists.
 * The 1000 Women in Religion organization: It is much like A+F, AfroCrowd, and BlackLunchTable. It was founded outside of the wiki movement. It focuses on a specific cause. It has regular meetings. The organization is made up of community organizers who are not focused on writing Wikipedia articles. They are interested in (a) developing their list of names, and (b) talking about it at their international conferences (Toronto/November 2018; Vancouver/June 2019; San Diego/November 2019). So far, (c) they have had one local wiki meetup (Wisconsin/May 2019). This is the Wikipedia page for the organization: Meetup/1000 Women in Religion. I don't think that is the ideal naming convention for the organization, but maybe you disagree. I've proposed alternate #1: WikiProject 1000 Women in Religion. Here is alternate #2: WikiProject Women in Red/1000 Women in Religion.
 * The 1000 Women in Religion "redlist": Currently, it is this "crowd-sourced list": WikiProject Women in Red/Religion 1000. What you haven't seen is 's spreadsheet which has two tabs. Tab #1 has a list of >1,000 names of women who do not have a Wikipedia article in any language wiki; plus there are columns for religion, year of birth, URLs, etc. Tab #2 contains a list of women who have a Wikipedia article in some language wik; plus there's a column with the Wikipedia article's URL (not all are en-Wikipedia). The current "crowd-sourced list" will eventually be augmented by the Wikidata-generated list. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:58, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

1000 Women in Religion spreadsheet
On a separate subject -- writing biographies associated with women in religion -- that topic can be postponed for another day, possibly, as you mention, "for inclusion in our August or September events". This would be akin to having a discussion of Women in Red facilitating a Black Women's History Month event in February, using AfroCrowd's list, BlackLunchTable's list, and other lists Women in Red has developed; or having a discussion about facilitating an Art+Feminism event in March, using an A+F list and other lists on artists, feminists, activists, etc. we have developed. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:58, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
 * , Thank you Rosie. This is definitely a work in progress.  Thank you for a restatement of possible names under the Wikipedia format.  That is something we can take up at our meetings.  I know it has been a slow start.  I have hope for a learning/participation curve that is exponential.  Let's hope for that. Dzingle1 (talk) 22:55, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Your spreadsheet sounds interesting, especially the names which appear on other languages versions of Wikipedia. Can you provide a link as a basis for "translating" the articles into English? I would gladly participate covering some of those in the languages I know. Secondly, I agree with Rosie that it might well be useful for you to separate your general interest in women in religion from your aim to have as many as possible covered in Wikipedia but it was my understanding you already have your own website here. I would suggest you build on this. Finally, may I suggest that one way of including more names on the English Wikipedia would be to encourage articles on the development of different beliefs in which key individuals are mentioned. Even if there is not sufficient information for a full biography, notable individuals could become accessible on Wikipedia through redirects to the more general article. This might be something you could discuss with your colleagues. Let me know if I can be of any further help.--Ipigott (talk) 07:08, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Administrator account security (Correction to Arbcom 2019 special circular)
ArbCom would like to apologise and correct our previous mass message in light of the response from the community.

Since November 2018, six administrator accounts have been compromised and temporarily desysopped. In an effort to help improve account security, our intention was to remind administrators of existing policies on account security — that they are required to "have strong passwords and follow appropriate personal security practices." We have updated our procedures to ensure that we enforce these policies more strictly in the future. The policies themselves have not changed. In particular, two-factor authentication remains an optional means of adding extra security to your account. The choice not to enable 2FA will not be considered when deciding to restore sysop privileges to administrator accounts that were compromised.

We are sorry for the wording of our previous message, which did not accurately convey this, and deeply regret the tone in which it was delivered.

For the Arbitration Committee, -Cameron11598 21:04, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello
Greetings comrades Mittjohn11 (talk) 04:52, 10 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello . Welcome and happy editing. --Rosiestep (talk) 12:59, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:16, 13 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Thank you, dear . I really needed this today as I'm feeling a bit over-whelmed and exhausted but also happy and forward-thinking about our wiki movement. I think today (or around now) is also the 10 year anniversary since I became an admin. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:09, 13 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Perhaps that's what prompted Dylan then. Funny, I also used "exhausted" recently. Let's take a deep breath and live by the line which made me admire Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (see my talk, look for the smile). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:10, 13 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Yes, that's good advice, . --Rosiestep (talk) 23:06, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

UC Irvine edit-a-thon on May 17, 2019

 * How did this go? It would be useful if you could fill in the gaps on the meetup page. I have been able to find three new articles created at the event (Elma González, Michalina Stefanowska, Maria Servedio) and one draft (Draft:L. Song Richardson) but with all those participants, there may well have been many more, not to mention enhancements, new recruits, etc. 's user page displays the WiR membership tag but the name does not appear on our list of members.--Ipigott (talk) 07:06, 20 May 2019 (UTC)


 * , it went very well. I was happy that some Women in Red members were able to attend in addition to about 40 others. Several articles were improved and many new ones were created. has the list of articles. I did upload the slidedeck to Commons. I suspect we'll have the articles and photos added later this week. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:31, 20 May 2019 (UTC)


 * , we've got the list started in the Outcomes section of the meetup page . The redlinked articles are in editor sandboxes, so we still need to sort those out. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:09, 21 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks. You seem to have had a pretty active day. So Kathleen Harris and Mabel Withee were also new articles. When I was looking at what the new participants had been doing, I did indeed notice at least a couple of them had started writing bios on their user pages.--Ipigott (talk) 07:25, 22 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks for catching those two, . I've added them to the Outcomes section. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:06, 22 May 2019 (UTC)


 * There were already listed. That's how I discovered they were new articles.--Ipigott (talk) 14:37, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I knew you were busy, but I never did find an editathon number to affix to the talk page of Stefanowska. SusunW (talk) 14:53, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
 * We didn’t give it a number because it was an in-person event. But the number we use for #1day1woman2019 would work. (Cell phone editing; please excuse errors) —Rosiestep (talk) 17:27, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

June Edit-a-thon in Vancouver

 * Hi ,


 * 1) Thank you for the invitation. A friendly FYI... Above the invitation, you created two headers, one is called "June Edit-a-thon in Vancouver" (that's good, but there's nothing under it) while the other is entitled "Invitation" (and it contains the invitation).
 * 2) Yesterday, you edited my talkpage and deleted a significant amount of information (-17,167 bytes). I have restored the previous version of my talkpage. But that means I don't see the message you were trying to add. Would you please add it again? Thanks. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:54, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * , on the meetup page, to be a bit more welcoming to the local editors you are trying to attract, maybe tweak the wording regarding "Who should attend", e.g. something like: Local Wikipedians, plus members and supporters of Atla. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:14, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * , Yikes! Sorry about the deletion. Dzingle1 (talk) 02:36, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

June events with WIR
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:42, 22 May 2019 (UTC) via MassMessaging

DYK for James Wilson Robertson (educator)
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

GLAM help request: Pritzker Military Museum & Library
Can you help update the Pritzker Military Museum & Library's article? It has a lot of items that need updating, especially the new CEO. Relevant articles include:


 * [Full press release: https://www.prweb.com/releases/pritzker_military_museum_library_brings_internationally_recognized_scholar_to_chicago/prweb16000422.htm ]
 * [Here’s the link to the Crain's article on Dr. Havers: https://www.chicagobusiness.com/arts-entertainment/meet-new-head-pritzker-military-museum ]
 * [2017 literature award: https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/pritzker-military-museum--library-announces-2017-literature-award-recipient-300476742.html]
 * [2018 literature award: https://www.coloradocollege.edu/newsevents/newsroom/dennis-showalter-wins-pritzker-literature-award#.XO70t4hKiUk]
 * [2018 literature award: https://chicago.suntimes.com/2018/6/26/18371506/pritzker-military-museum-amp-library-awards-scholar-100-000-prize]
 * [2018 literature award: http://www.startribune.com/minnesotan-wins-100k-literature-prize-for-military-writing/486607891/ ]
 * [Books published by PMML: Zero to Hero https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20190325/medal-of-honor-recipient-reflects-on-what-march-25-holiday-means-to-him]
 * [Books published by PMML: Zero to Hero https://www.c-span.org/video/?458750-1/zero-hero]
 * [Books published by PMML: Zero to Hero https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/daily-southtown/ct-sta-zero-to-hero-medal-of-honor-st-0315-story.html]
 * [Books published by PMML: Lest We Forget https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-robbins-world-war-one-posters-20181111-htmlstory.html]
 * [Books published by PMML: Lest We Forget https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/2018/03/15/military-times-spring-reading-guide-grunts-generals-russians-and-keyboard-warriors-top-our-nonfiction-list/]

Thanks for your help! TeriEmbrey (talk) 21:14, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Ways to improve Wilmer Cave Wright
Hello, Rosiestep,

Thanks for creating Wilmer Cave Wright! I edit here too, under the username Boleyn and it's nice to meet you :-)

I wanted to let you know that I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:-

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, leave a comment here and prepend it with. And, don't forget to sign your reply with. For broader editing help, please visit the Teahouse.

Delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.

Boleyn (talk) 20:07, 1 June 2019 (UTC)


 * , ✅. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:38, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!
 Happy First Edit Day! Have a very happy first edit anniversary! From the Birthday Committee, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:39, 4 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks, . Twelve years; wow! --Rosiestep (talk) 00:15, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * For some reason, Rosie, I had always assumed you had been editing much longer than me. Now I see I actually started a few months before you did. But it was only in 2013 that we started to create all those DYKs, together with and . It's amazing how productive we were on all kinds of topics in those days. And then in 2014, after you created Women writers, a new focus began to emerge. It's always been a real pleasure to collaborate with you. I hope we can continue to work together for many more years. Congratulations on your 12th editing anniversary.--Ipigott (talk) 14:32, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

12 years!! Yey!♦ Dr. Blofeld  14:38, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you both, . It has been such a wonderful experience in my life, collaborating with you. Looking forward to keeping it up in the years to come. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:02, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Submission to Community Growth space
Hello ,

Thank you for your submission to the Community Growth space at Wikimania 2019. We have received your submission, and we will evaluate it during the month of June. In the meantime, we may contact you on the proposal talk page with suggestions on possible collaborations with other presenters or on how to improve your proposal.

If you have any questions, please contact us on the space’s talk page or via “Email this user” to any of the leadership team listed on the space’s page.

Sincerely, MMiller (WMF) (talk) 01:27, 11 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks, . --Rosiestep (talk) 13:58, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

UW video
RosieStep,

I assume you've seen the video and the article in UW News. I'll probably put this in the next Signpost "In the media". Can you give a good one or two line quote for publication?

Smallbones( smalltalk ) 20:17, 12 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Yes, I've seen them, and thanks for noticing, . Here's the quote: "I think Amanda Menking and Wanda Pratt's work is important, so I was happy to participate in this project, and the follow-up video, which also includes . I'd be interested in hearing feedback from members of the Wikimedia community as well as non-Wikimedians after they view the video. Hopefully, it'll be widely-shared." --Rosiestep (talk) 00:42, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

WIR Twitter
I am not sure who made this post, but I think it would be best if you can talk to the person who made that post and remind them of WP:AGF. Afootpluto (talk) 23:34, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for removing the post. I think it helped a lot in preventing the escalation of the Fram situation. Afootpluto (talk) 00:21, 15 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks for stopping by, ; appreciate it. --Rosiestep (talk) 00:54, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Just a heads up, the twitter post was mentioned at. Afootpluto (talk) 01:20, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Wanted to stop by and say "thanks" for your intervention here. There is a lot of reasonable divergence in the opinions of the community right now, and a lot we don't know. Your actions to correct this situation show the kind of leadership that the community needs when so many (often ordinarily sensible) people are having difficulty avoiding unnecessary (and potentially inaccurate) personalization of the issues. Risker (talk) 02:10, 15 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks, ; appreciate it. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:59, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

I have filed a statement on the Twitter posts at ArbCom. You (but not any Twitter posts of yours) were mentioned in that statement. Notifying you in case pings didn't work. I'll just alert you too that BullRangifer has also made a statement on this issue.  starship .paint  (talk) 06:53, 15 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Got it, . --Rosiestep (talk) 18:59, 16 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks, . I appreciate it. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:18, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

July events from Women in Red!
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:41, 25 June 2019 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Hostility to Female, Non‑Binary Editors Keeps Wikipedia’s Gender Gap Wide
A new article which may be of interest to some pagestalkers. It's also here: User:Rosiestep/About me. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:17, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
 * 26 June 2019, "Hostility to Female, Non‑Binary Editors Keeps Wikipedia’s Gender Gap Wide", by Liesl Goecker, The Swaddle

I made a userbox for you
I noticed one of the userboxes currently on your user page only used (his) so I made a copy with (her). Here's what it looks like:

Do you like it? Clovermoss (talk) 02:11, 27 June 2019 (UTC)


 * I do! Thanks,, and I'm using it. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:20, 27 June 2019 (UTC)