User talk:Rouge DM

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Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Are Blytt


A tag has been placed on Draft:Are Blytt, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the.  QueerEcofeminist "cite! even if you fight"!!! [they/them/their] 04:28, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

You have an obvious conflict of interest, please don't write about yourself, your friends or relatives and read the guidance below:


 * When you write about a person, you must provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that they meet the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the person or an associated organisation, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the person claims or interviewing them. Note that references should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls.
 * You must write in a non-promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic, with verifiable facts, not opinions or reviews.
 * There shouldn't be any url links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections.
 * You must not copy text from elsewhere. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. We require that text posted here can be used, modified and distributed for any purpose, including commercial; text is considered to be copyright unless explicitly stated otherwise. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient.

Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. Also read Your first article. You must also reply to the COI request above. Jimfbleak - talk to me?  07:13, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks for your message, but I'm afraid you keep posting the same stuff, ignoring my comments above, so it will keep being deleted.
 * You have ignore my COI query, despite having only worked on this article
 * Your references are not all appropriate, including as they do press releases, gallery promos and his own site. They also don't necessarily support what you claim. The works [sic] is informed by previous art historical precedents such as abstract expressionism and minimalism, with a subversive sense and contemporary approach has three refs, but I can't see where any say that, although the Dutch perhaps hints at minimalism
 * You present opinions as facts eg embraces painting while challenging painterly questions and testing the limits of this medium. The relationship between image and text is essential in his works and he implements self-written texts and photos into the abstract canvases.[2] His paintings deal with current social and political questions within a humanistic and personal approach
 * Much of your text is a copyright violation of this page

Incidentally, although I'm no expert on modern art, I did recently write an art article

Just so there is no doubt in your mind, if you repost for a fourth time, I will block you for copyright violation, promotion and undeclared COI Jimfbleak - talk to me?  13:50, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

March 2020
Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia. While objective prose about beliefs, organisations, people, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. Thank you. Jimfbleak - talk to me?  06:32, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Rouge DM. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


 * avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization or competitors;
 * propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the request edit template);
 * disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Conflict of interest);
 * avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:Spam);
 * do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Please disclose your conflict of interest prior to any further edits. --Yamla (talk) 13:33, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Are Blytt


A tag has been placed on Draft:Are Blytt, requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which pages can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:
 * It seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. (See section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.
 * It appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement of https://www.gallerik.com/artists/are-blytt/. (See section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

If the external website or image belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text or image — which means allowing other people to use it for any reason — then you must verify that externally by one of the processes explained at Donating copyrighted materials. The same holds if you are not the owner but have their permission. If you are not the owner and do not have permission, see Requesting copyright permission for how you may obtain it. You might want to look at Wikipedia's copyright policy for more details, or ask a question here.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. bonadea contributions talk 14:07, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

March 2020
Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from Draft:Are Blytt, a page you have created yourself. If you believe the page should not be deleted, you may contest the deletion by clicking on the button that says: Contest this speedy deletion which appears inside the speedy deletion notice. This will allow you to make your case on the talk page. Administrators will consider your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. Thank you. bonadea contributions talk 14:40, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

As previously advised, your edits give the impression you have a financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. You were asked to cease editing until you responded by either stating that you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits, or by complying with the mandatory requirements under the Wikimedia Terms of Use that you disclose your employer, client and affiliation. Again, you can post such a disclosure on your user page at User:Rouge DM, and the template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. Please respond before making any other edits to Wikipedia. bonadea contributions talk 14:40, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi bonadea thank you for this information, I´m new to this, and it´s not so easy, I´m trying. This artist is of public interest within my field! I use Wikipedia all the time about contemporary art. Can you please help me with this statement so I can continue my edit? I´m not paid or indirectly paid, so why should I state this? Thank you. I use Wikipedia all the time for contemporary art :) This is other examples of his peers, so I do not understand why all this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bjarne_Melgaard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._K._Dolven


 * Hi Rouge DM, it is true that Wikipedia contains quite a lot of policies and guidelines and rules, which can get rather confusing at times. The main thing is that you read the information that has already been placed on your user talk page – a couple of other people had already asked you about conflict of interest/paid editing, and since you had not responded to that, I put a slightly more strongly worded notice there. Unfortunately, it looks as if you have copied much of the text in the current draft from a couple of different sources, and that is not acceptable since it violates Wikipedia's copyright rules. It seems to me that Blytt is quite possibly notable, but the article about him cannot include promotional wording or phrases that address a readership who understand art jargon ("Blytt´s works are described as post-painterly figuration and they are not about painting, it simply is painting that happens to also contain figurative elements, such as photography or text, as part of its vocabulary" makes almost no sense to me at all – what does that mean? In addition, that wording is taken straight from this source, and also misrepresents that source a little). Rather than look at random other articles, it may be more useful for you to read Wikipedia articles that have been included in the list of "Good Articles" – that is a review process which results in pretty high-quality writing. You will find a list of art related Good Articles here. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 15:57, 29 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Hibonadea, thank you for the reply. First I would like to stress again, I made this page as an contribution for the field of contemporary art / contemporary painting. Please belive this. Second, I would like re-open this project, I´ve used a lot of time on this. Can you please read over and suggest your edits? I have shown it to two other persons, who dont find this incorrect or promotional, or not art jargon as you say :/ I would be very happy to re-poen this together with you.

Rouge DM (talk) 19:39, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I see that in addition to yet again posting copyright material and on-compliant text, you have twice removed speedy deletion tags, once while logged out. I'm therefore blocking you for two weeks initially. It will be indefinite if you continue in this way when the block expires Jimfbleak - talk to me?  06:47, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Are Blytt for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Are Blytt is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Are Blytt until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Vexations (talk) 17:59, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

COI on Are Blytt?
hello. Thank you for disclosing above that you are not being paid to edit Are Blytt. Your edits have a promotional feel to them, so I wanted to ask if you are related to the artist in any way. For example being his dealer would be a relationship, a friend of the subject and so on.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 19:32, 6 June 2020 (UTC)