User talk:RoxastheRoxxor

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Wikipedia and copyright
Hello RoxastheRoxxor! Your additions to Sanitary Tortilla Factory have been removed in whole or in part, as they appear to have added copyrighted content without evidence that the source material is in the public domain or has been released by its owner or legal agent under a suitably-free and compatible copyright license. (To request such a release, see Requesting copyright permission.) While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from sources to avoid copyright and plagiarism issues.


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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, please ask them here on this page, or leave a message on my talk page. See the first two entries here: https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&oldid=1169197840&action=compare&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newyorker.com%2Fmagazine%2F1984%2F08%2F06%2Fthe-mj-sanitary-tortilla-factory Thank you. Doug Weller talk 17:49, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Note that I have NOT removed them, I hope that you will. At the moment the article is also far too promotional. Doug Weller talk 17:53, 7 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I appreciate it, I am a new editor on Wikipedia and I understand. I think I might have been a little overly ambitious with my first article. Thank you for your guidance, I'll review the Wikipedia tutorial and try again. RoxastheRoxxor (talk) 17:58, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Trying to create an article so soon is a huge task. Don’t give up though even if it is deleted. Doug Weller  talk 18:51, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I put some links at the top of your page that will help. Doug Weller  talk 18:52, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Perfect, thank you so much. Edited the article down to better adhere to Wikipedia guidelines, I'll continue looking into the resources you've provided. I really appreciate it! RoxastheRoxxor (talk) 19:26, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Sanitary Tortilla Factory
Hello, RoxastheRoxxor

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Sanitary Tortilla Factory for deletion, because it seems to be inappropriate for a variety of reasons. For more details please see the notice on the article.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks!

(Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

The Herald (Benison) (talk) 18:46, 7 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you for reviewing my article, this is my first Wikipedia article. I appreciate your feedback and I've edited it down to better adhere to Wikipedia guidelines. RoxastheRoxxor (talk) 19:27, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia: check out the Teahouse!

 * This is fantastic! Thank so you much for the invite, I'll be sure to join. RoxastheRoxxor (talk) 19:49, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

CS1 error on Sheri Crider
Hello, I'm Qwerfjkl (bot). I have automatically detected that this edit performed by you, on the page Sheri Crider, may have introduced referencing errors. They are as follows: Please check this page and fix the errors highlighted. If you think this is a false positive, you can [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?action=edit&preload=User:Qwerfjkl/sandbox/43&editintro=User:Qwerfjkl/boteditintro&minor=&title=User_talk:Qwerfjkl&preloadtitle=Qwerfjkl%20(bot)%20–%20RoxastheRoxxor&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=&preloadparams%5b%5d=1169278796 report it to my operator]. Thanks, Qwerfjkl (bot) (talk) 04:02, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * A "bare URL and missing title" error. References show this error when they do not have a title. Please edit the article to add the appropriate title parameter to the reference. ([//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sheri_Crider&action=edit&minor=minor&summary=Fixing+reference+error+raised+by+%5B%5BUser%3AQwerfjkl%20(bot)%7CQwerfjkl%20(bot)%5D%5D Fix] | [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&preload=User:Qwerfjkl%20(bot)/helpform&preloadtitle=Referencing%20errors%20on%20%5B%5BSpecial%3ADiff%2F1169278796%7CSheri%20Crider%5D%5D Ask for help])

Ways to improve Sanitary Tortilla Factory
Hello, RoxastheRoxxor,

Thank you for creating Sanitary Tortilla Factory.

I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:

"Keep adding more reliable references. Looks good for now."

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, leave a comment here and begin it with. Remember to sign your reply with. For broader editing help, please visit the Teahouse.

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The Herald (Benison) (talk) 05:34, 8 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I appreciate you looking it over, I'll be sure to add additional references. Thank you. RoxastheRoxxor (talk) 12:26, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, RoxastheRoxxor. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Sheri Crider, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


 * avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients, or competitors;
 * propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the edit COI template);
 * disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see );
 * avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see );
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In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. ''If you are or are connected to Sheri Crider personally or professionally, or the Sanitary Tortilla Factory, you will need to disclose this on your user page, and follow the guidelines for conflict of interest editing. Thank you.'' Netherzone (talk) 21:50, 15 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I appreciate your concern, I am not not associated with Sanitary Tortilla Factory or Sheri Crider. I am interested in creating Wikipedia pages for artists, art activists, and art venues in the Southwest US.  RoxastheRoxxor (talk) 21:59, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Could you please explain how it is that you uploaded two images as your "own work"; these are a logo that was a logo authored by "Sanitary Tortilla Factory" but credited as your own work; the other is an image of the facade in 2017, credited as your "own work" but has Sheri Crider as the author of the work. How were you able to obtain copyright permission if you are unassociated? Netherzone (talk) 22:29, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I uploaded them but did not create them or do I own copyright to the images. I emailed the owner via their website and received permission to share them. Is that not ok, or should I delete them? RoxastheRoxxor (talk) 22:38, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
 * That information needs to be sent to the Creative Commons Volunteer Response Team by the actual copyright holder. Just word of mouth that someone got permission is not enough - we are an encyclopedia. Otherwise it's a copyright law violation. However, did Crider purchase the original logo from M&J's and had the copyright transfered to her or was it a newly created logo? And was permission received from the muralist, or did Crider also paint the mural?
 * As to the COI, since you have been coordinating with gallery and copyright owner, you are indeed a connected editor. You need to follow our guidelines, and stop editing the articles directly, and instead use the edit request system. Please read WP:COI to learn the exact policies/guidelines. Netherzone (talk) 22:55, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
 * It doesn't appear that requesting permission to use an image violates the COI. This is pretty standard when requesting image usage rights for reproduction. Is that not the same on Wiki? RoxastheRoxxor (talk) 03:08, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the your concern. I will delete the uploaded images from Wiki, and defer that the copyright holder submit as I don't have the information requested. On a side note, I just have to say that your tone is completely unprofessional and makes me not want to participate in further articles, especially if this is how you talk to new editors. RoxastheRoxxor (talk) 03:26, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry if my tone was too direct or seemed blunt. I work with a lot of new editors helping to improve articles and have found that direct communication is usually best. There's a lot to learn here, and it takes a while. Please do check out the links (blue text) in the Welcome message above as they will provide some basics. Netherzone (talk) 04:50, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * It's wasn't direct or blunt, the language used was exclusionary. I appreciate the apology, I'm new to this and want to contribute to the community about subjects I'm passionate about. I will check out the links to learn and grow, I do think my first attempt at an article with grow as more editors contribute.  RoxastheRoxxor (talk) 04:55, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @RoxastheRoxxor, I don't make up the "rules" around here, the community does through the process of consensus. There is so much to learn about how WP functions and it's policies and guidelines - it took me years and I am still learning! The reason for that is we are an encyclopedia, not just a website. Thank you for creating the article. I hope you like the improvements made to develop the historical and cultural background of the Sanitary Tortilla Factory going back to the 1930s. I was able to find a lot of sources on Newspapers.com, and there are more available, too. M&J's supported the arts going way back, so it is a nice legacy for the current art space in the building. I was able to find a copyright-free image of the gallery on Flickr which I added to the gallery section. I redlinked a few things that may be wiki-notable if you are interested in working on those collaboratively as possible new articles. Netherzone (talk) 19:27, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

August 2023
Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give a page a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into Sheri Crider. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases for registered users, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu for you). This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Requests for history merge. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 02:41, 16 August 2023 (UTC)