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Tech News: 2023-15
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Recent changes
 * Octicons-gift.svg In the visual editor, it is now possible to edit captions of images in galleries without opening the gallery dialog. This feature request was voted #61 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.
 * Octicons-gift.svg You can now receive notifications when another user edits your user page. See the "" option in your Preferences. This feature request was voted #3 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.

Problems
 * There was a problem with all types of CentralNotice banners still being shown to logged-in users even if they had turned off specific banner types. This has now been fixed.

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 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Starting on Wednesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link" . This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure how this feature works locally.

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Tech News: 2023-16
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Recent changes
 * You can now see nearby articles on a Kartographer map with the button for the new feature "". Six wikis have been testing this feature since October.
 * Octicons-gift.svg The Special:GlobalWatchlist page now has links for "" for each entry. This feature request was voted #161 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.

Problems
 * At Wikimedia Commons, some thumbnails have not been getting replaced correctly after a new version of the image is uploaded. This should be fixed later this week.
 * Octicons-tools.svg For the last few weeks, some external tools had inconsistent problems with logging-in with OAuth. This has now been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

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Procedural notification
Hi, I and others have proposed additional options at Village_pump_(policy). You may wish to review your position in that RfC. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:15, 20 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the note. I have been watching the discussion, I'm fine with my current position. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:05, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

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Editor requesting a longer block
User talk:Fenetrejones Doug Weller  talk 18:20, 22 April 2023 (UTC)


 * They're actually requesting a finite block, I think? Valereee (talk) 18:41, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I think what they're really requesting is to have TPA revoked... -- RoySmith (talk) 18:52, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-17
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Recent changes
 * Octicons-gift.svg The date-selection menu on pages such as will now show year-ranges that are in the current and past decade, instead of the current and future decade. This feature request was voted #145 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.

Problems
 * Due to security issues with the Graph extension, graphs have been disabled in all Wikimedia projects. Wikimedia Foundation teams are working to respond to these vulnerabilities.
 * For a few days, it was not possible to save some kinds of edits on the mobile version of a wiki. This has been fixed.

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 * All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on April 26. This is planned for 14:00 UTC.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Future changes
 * The Editing team plans an A/B test for a usability analysis of the Talk page project. The planned measurements are available. Your wiki may be invited to participate. Please suggest improvements to the measurement plan at the discussion page.
 * The Wikimedia Foundation annual plan 2023-2024 draft is open for comment and input until May 19. The final plan will be published in July 2023 on Meta-wiki.

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Investigation against me
Heyy RoySmith, I just looked into investigation agains me as a sock puppet and you blocked my other account. This is my main acc. And @tousifzyan.15 was my only other acc. Do I need to get involved in the investigation or not. Tousif ❯❯❯  Talk  16:13, 29 April 2023 (UTC)


 * @Tousif.15 If you want, I'll switch which account is blocked. Let me know here.  But from here on in, just stick to the one account. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:33, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * No wayy This is my main account, I have never edited from any other account, that account was created to ask@Geniac that he can lift up the block from my Ip so that I can request password change and that's all, although at that time I didn't knew that editing from different account is not allowed on Wikipedia and mke some edit from that account, just a silly mistake. I repeat this is my main and for now onwards only account. Tousif  ❯❯❯  Talk  16:40, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I have a question in my mind, why there a investigation needed for @Tousif.15 and @Tousifzyan.15 as I already maked it clear that that's my alternative account.   Tousif  ❯❯❯  Talk  16:45, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm confused about what you're asking me to do. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:46, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I am just justifying myself. And asking some questions. Don't do anything and just answer my question if you want to.  Tousif  ❯❯❯  Talk  16:53, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Why is their other account blocked anyways? It's a clearly disclosed alternate account and there was no illegitimate use. Tayi Arajakate  Talk 17:16, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I have asked for a review at WP:AN -- RoySmith (talk) 17:25, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * @Tousifzyan.15 I have unblocked you. My apologies for the inconvenience. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:42, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

The Thrill of It All Tour
Hi RoySmith. Would you mind taking a look at The Thrill of It All Tour? I stumbled across the article's talk page by chance while trying to figure out which WikiProject banners to add to Talk:Gloria World Tour. Anyway, Talk:The Thrill of It All Tour was probably done in good faith but might've been a little too bold, especially just a little over month after Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Thrill of It All Tour. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:30, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Correction: The article was re-created by that IP, but the IP self-reverted back to the redirect shortly thereafter. It was recreated once again a few years later but a different user in May 2020. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:35, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. Yeah, I see what you mean, but that was almost 5 years ago and there's been a fair amount of editing since then, so I think it's kind of moot at this point.  If you feel it's still not notable on it's own, my suggestion would be to suggest a re-merge on the talk page. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:37, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I know zero about the subject matter. I just thought the reason the IP recreating the page so soon after the AFD probably was too bold, but I should've looked at the page's history a bit more carefully. Thanks anyway for checking. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:48, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I agree that it was pretty bold, and had I noticed at the time, I probably would have reverted it. But, after 5 years, reverting it would be bold in its own way :-) -- RoySmith (talk) 13:51, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-18
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Recent changes
 * Octicons-gift.svg The content attribution tools Who Wrote That?, XTools Authorship, and XTools Blame now support the French and Italian Wikipedias. More languages will be added in the near future. This is part of the #7 wish in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.
 * The Video2commons tool has been updated. This fixed several bugs related to YouTube uploads.
 * The page has been redesigned on mobile web. The new design makes it easier to browse the different categories and settings at low screen widths. You can also now access the page via a link in the Settings menu in the mobile web sidebar.

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 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

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Administrators' newsletter – May 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2023).

Administrator changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * A request for comment about removing administrative privileges in specified situations is open for feedback.

Technical news
 * Progress has started on the Page Triage improvement project. This is to address the concerns raised by the community in their 2022 WMF letter that requested improvements be made to the tool.

Arbitration
 * The proposed decision in the World War II and the history of Jews in Poland case is expected 11 May 2023.

Miscellaneous
 * The Wikimedia Foundation annual plan 2023-2024 draft is open for comment and input through May 19. The final plan will be published in July 2023.

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Tech News: 2023-19
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Recent changes
 * Octicons-gift.svg Last week, Community Tech released the first update for providing better diffs, the #1 request in the 2022 Community Wishlist Survey. This update adds legends and tooltips to inline diffs so that users unfamiliar with the blue and yellow highlights can better understand the type of edits made.
 * Octicons-gift.svg When you close an image that is displayed via MediaViewer, it will now return to the wiki page instead of going back in your browser history. This feature request was voted #65 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.
 * The SyntaxHighlight extension now supports as a selected language. Old alternatives that were used to highlight wikitext, such as, , and , can now be replaced.
 * Preloading text to new pages/sections now supports preloading from localized MediaWiki interface messages. Here is an example at the that uses .

Problems
 * Graph Extension update: Foundation developers have completed upgrading the visualization software to Vega5. Existing community graphs based on Vega2 are no longer compatible. Communities need to update local graphs and templates, and shared lua modules like de:Modul:Graph . The Vega Porting guide provides the most comprehensive detail on migration from Vega2 and here is an example migration. Vega5 has currently just been enabled on mediawiki.org to provide a test environment for communities.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Octicons-tools.svg Until now, all new OAuth apps went through manual review. Starting this week, apps using identification-only or basic authorizations will not require review.

Future changes
 * During the next year, MediaWiki will stop using IP addresses to identify logged-out users, and will start automatically assigning unique temporary usernames. Read more at IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation/Updates. You can join the discussion about the format of the temporary usernames.
 * There will be an A/B test on 10 Wikipedias where the Vector 2022 skin is the default skin. Half of logged-in desktop users will see an interface where the different parts of the page are more clearly separated. You can read more.
 * Octicons-tools.svg  will be removed from the MediaWiki core. This will affect some user scripts. Many lines with   can be commented out.   can be used to keep things working like they are now. You can read more and read about how to find broken scripts.

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Skeptic - Giant skeletons
I wonder if you might look at this Draft:Giant skeletons. I started the article today after becoming interested in the subject. I cannot determine if it was a hoax, but I think I am beginning to believe that it was. Can you let me know what you think about the article and what you think about the veracity of the claims. I think the subject is ripe with hooks but I would hate to run afoul of the WP:MEDRS guide. Bruxton (talk) 21:26, 10 May 2023 (UTC)


 * I looked at a few of the sources.  The sourcing is substantially better than Mihailo Tolotos, to use one recent example.  My guess is that this is indeed a hoax, but WP:NHOAX says it's OK to have articles about hoaxes, as long as they are described properly, which this appears to be.  So I think you're good. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:10, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for looking at it. It seemed that the newspapers in that era were prone to sensationalism. I probably need another source refuting the giants. I also have not found photos to support that giant skeletons existed. Bruxton (talk) 23:53, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Glossier page deletion
Hi, I wanted to inquire about creating an article for Glossier, the skincare brand, and saw that you had deleted a draft in 2018 for unambiguous advertising or promotion. Die Kunst Der Fuge (talk) 22:32, 11 May 2023 (UTC)


 * I don't have any memory of that, but I just took a look at the deleted version and yeah, it was a disaster. But there's no reason you shouldn't take a shot at a new version.  You should look at WP:COMPANY to learn about our requirements for articles about companies.  I see you've already begun a draft, which is the right way to get started. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:13, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

May 17: WikiWednesday Salon + Queering Wikipedia
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Tech News: 2023-20
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Problems
 * Citations that are automatically generated based on ISBN are currently broken. This affects citations made with the VisualEditor Automatic tab, and the use of the citoid API in gadgets and user scripts. Work is ongoing to restore this feature.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Starting on Wednesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link" . This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure how this feature works locally.

Future changes
 * There is a recently formed team at the Wikimedia Foundation which will be focusing on experimenting with new tools. Currently they are building a prototype ChatGPT plugin that allows information generated by ChatGPT to be properly attributed to the Wikimedia projects.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Gadget and userscript developers should replace  with  . The <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> library will be removed in ~1 month, and staff developers will run a script to replace any remaining uses at that time.

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MediaWiki message delivery 21:43, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Notice of Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents discussion
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Request a ban for Flamelai. Thank you. -Lemonaka‎ 01:58, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
 * We suspected this account was compromised, but I don't know how to file a request in such case. -Lemonaka‎  01:59, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Lemonaka Help me understand how I'm involved? -- RoySmith (talk) 12:07, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Eh, my bad. I just want to invite a checkuser to join this discussion. Anyway, a quick CU was filed on Wp:spi by other user. -Lemonaka‎  12:20, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2023-21
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Recent changes
 * Octicons-gift.svg The "recent edits" time period for page watchers is now 30 days. It used to be 180 days. This was a Community Wishlist Survey proposal.

Changes later this week
 * An improved impact module will be available at Wikipedias. The impact module is a feature available to newcomers at their personal homepage. It will show their number of edits, how many readers their edited pages have, how many thanks they have received and similar things. It is also accessible by accessing Special:Impact.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

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16:53, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Queue 7

 * Would you kindly restore it? --Enhancing999 (talk) 22:36, 22 May 2023 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure what you're asking. Restore the thread to my talk page, or restore the hook to the queue? -- RoySmith (talk) 23:00, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * The hook initially added in the preparation queue to the other queue. Otherwise, the uncoordinated edit of the user who isn't participating in discussions goes on the main page. Enhancing999 (talk) 23:08, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Best to keep this all in one place on WT:DYK. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:21, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm asking you as you moved the edit of that user to the main page. I don't think any of the other participants can fix it. Enhancing999 (talk) 23:23, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Please pick this up on WT:DYK, thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:25, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Deletion review for Dance with the Devil (Immortal Technique song)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Dance with the Devil (Immortal Technique song). Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. MC-123 (talk) 00:42, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

How long I need to wait before appealing
Hi, don’t block me. I didn’t edit anything. I created this account just so I can talk with an admin. I just wanted to know how long I need to wait before I can Appel? It’s been 2 months. And I don’t remember the details of the sock account. Tekle18400 (talk) 15:04, 25 May 2023 (UTC)


 * I have no clue who you are, so I couldn't even begin to answer your question. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:58, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * The sock user name is Gabi838 Tekle18400 (talk) 17:50, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Gabi838r* Tekle18400 (talk) 17:51, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Nice when the serial sockpuppets tell you they are back... Meters (talk) 21:00, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Lots of socks
Hey there,

I think you are familiar with this case Sockpuppet investigations/Jomontgeorge/Archive, and all the socks that keep popping up. I am certain that is just one of the few new ones due to similar interest area in Pooja Hegde and her films like Kisi Ka Bhai Kisi Ki Jaan. Could you please take a look? Also pinging. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 12:57, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

P.S.: I'm sure there are many more socks and IPs going around. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 12:57, 26 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Please file an SPI and somebody will look at it. Thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:00, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I've blocked the account as a ✅ sock. -- Ponyo bons mots 15:44, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Ponyo. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 18:45, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-22
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Recent changes
 * Citations can once again be added automatically from ISBNs, thanks to Zotero's ISBN searches. The current data sources are the Library of Congress (United States), the Bibliothèque nationale de France (French National Library), and K10plus ISBN (German repository). Additional data source searches can be proposed to Zotero. The ISBN labels in the VisualEditor Automatic tab will reappear later this week.
 * Octicons-gift.svg The page now has "" options to select all the pages within a namespace. This feature request was voted #161 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.

Problems
 * For a few days earlier this month, the "Add interlanguage link" item in the Tools menu did not work properly. This has now been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * VisualEditor will be switched to a new backend on small and medium wikis this week. Large wikis will follow in the coming weeks. This is part of the effort to move Parsoid into MediaWiki core. The change should have no noticeable effect on users, but if you experience any slow loading or other strangeness when using VisualEditor, please report it on the phabricator ticket linked here.

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MediaWiki message delivery 22:00, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

May music
Thank you for DYK help! - My story today is that 300 years ago, Bach became Thomaskantor, with BWV 75, writing music history. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 30 May 2023 (UTC)