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December greetings
Thank you for your DYK work! - Today, I have a special story to tell, of the works of a musician born 300 years ago. - I wish you a good festive season and a peaceful New Year! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:44, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Sorry for my hasty promotion
I think it is all sorted now, but I want to apologize for my headlong promotion at DYK. Have a happy holiday season. Bruxton (talk) 19:52, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Shit happens. Life goes on.  Don't sweat the small stuff! RoySmith (talk) 22:48, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

A solstice greeting
 ❄️Happy holidays!❄️

Hi Roy! I'd like to wish you a splendid solstice season as we wrap up the year. Here is an artwork, made individually for you, to celebrate. It was great to meet you in Toronto! Take care, and thanks for all you do to make Wikipedia better!Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb }&#125;  talk

&#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 06:58, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

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Hello
Can you review the article of Emperor Haile Selassie I for a potential good article, it would be appreciated! CtasACT (talk) 18:39, 30 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @CtasACT Unfortunately, there is an extensive backlog at WP:GAN. Somebody will get to it eventually, but I'm afraid it may not be soon.  I see you've also pinged ; it's not really fair to the other authors whose submissions have been waiting for reviews to try to get ahead of the queue. RoySmith (talk) 18:44, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes indeed, but when the review process come to that article an estimate would be appreciated! CtasACT (talk) 18:46, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * CtasACT, this is going to need a lot of work, starting (or ending?) with the reference system--I see a list of books that I suppose are referred to in the footnotes, but there are also footnotes with complete book titles cited in it; I don't see much consistency in the formatting. I also removed some unverified/improperly verified/unencyclopedic material, but I think there is more. Plus, the death/illness/etc. section is somewhat oddly organized. Drmies (talk) 18:52, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Can we bring this to my Talk section, i don't think we should do this in User:RoySmith talk page. CtasACT (talk) 18:57, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * To be honest, given that you periodically blank your talk page, let's just leave this here where people can find it. RoySmith (talk) 19:14, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I genuinely thought you would have a problem with that, but anyways yes you are right this has greater reach than my talk page has. I am a new editor, so i might get so scolding on the many things i probably did wrong, but i will happily listen to any and all improvements you suggest or the community i say! CtasACT (talk) 19:21, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

sorry for no response
On the thing. I am phonebound for the next couple days and have not properly been clerking signpost stuff. I will respknd when I get home! APologies. jp×g🗯️ 21:26, 30 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the update. RoySmith (talk) 21:27, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

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Happy New Year, RoySmith!


Happy New Year! RoySmith, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

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Yesterday's DYK "poison"
Thanks for fixing the "poison" issue

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Main_Page/Errors&oldid=1193633884 Khaled2200 (talk) 14:29, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Please see
Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/In focus and make any corrections in next 2 days. There will still be copy editing and E-i-C edits/approval, but not much to do about those. Smallbones( smalltalk ) 21:11, 7 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Smallbones thanks for the ping. I made a few minor copyedits and wrote a short lead. RoySmith (talk) 22:11, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

2601:58C:4301:1910:0:0:0:0/64
Hi Roy, fancy taking a look at that range? You seem to be the expert. There's a registered editor on it (though I've just hard blocked it) and I wanted someone more familiar to decide whether they need any action. I was just processing an AIV report so the only background I have is a skim of the cuwiki page. Best, HJ Mitchell &#124; Penny for your thoughts? 22:06, 7 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @HJ Mitchell I'll take a look. RoySmith (talk) 22:12, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

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Help
I got your name from Talk:List of federal political scandals in the United States. I was so impressed with that article that I thought the same should be done for each of the states as well, and so submitted a similar article [] in April 2023. I was careful to keep the same style, tone and parameters as the original, but it was rejected because “This article is so long that you cannot use this many templates”.

So I broke the article into 50 smaller, individual articles, one for each state, re-wrote the all citations and removed about half of them (the older ones to make it shorter), re-wrote all the references using one style and one template and re-submitted. To my surprise they were accepted immediately. I kept submitting and publishing one by one all the way up to Draft:Political Scandals of Oklahoma, when they were all suddenly challenged and removed, all 37 of them. The admin who originally accepted them seems to have changed his mind.

The reasons given for their removal varies by editor, but they were mostly the same reasons mentioned at the discussions about List of federal political scandals in the United States. That is, the definitions were too vague, there was original research, there was not enough original research, they weren’t notabile, and there was too much recentism, etc. It’s finally clear to me that the reason my original article and the 37 similar articles was rejected was the SUBJECT.

I’ve created a sister article to List of federal political scandals in the United States. If that is an acceptable article, so is this one. I would really prefer the easy access format of my first submission of [] rather than the state by state approach. Can you help?Johnsagent (talk) 18:32, 11 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Johnsagent Perhaps ask at WP:Teahouse; the folks who work there are probably better equipped to answer your question than I am. RoySmith (talk) 18:46, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
 * What makes you think the WP:Teahouse is any more Conservative-sox free than the New Articles editors? I've tried twice and been shot down both times.  And I'm so Wiki illiterate I can't figure a way past it.  You were my last, best hope Obi-wan.Johnsagent (talk) 18:57, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Persistent trolling from long term abuser
In the summer of 2023, you dealt with a block evading troll who was filing frivolous SPIs against me and others to get them blocked- and.

Unfortunately he is continuing his trolling and disruption- & is making these ridiculous, troll edits today- and. I was hoping someone could look at the SPI case so his trolling could be at least somewhat impeded. Thanks. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 13:55, 14 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Now he is falsely calling unblocked users sockpupppets in his edit summaries-. This is beyond unacceptable. 14:02, 14 January 2024 (UTC) Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 14:02, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

He is the one falsely calling me sock of HaughtonBrit. You can investigate and it will be proven without any benefit of doubt that users Leviathan12 and Monabhaii are none other than socks of KamalAghan01. Same interest in articles that were vandalized by socks of KamalAfghan01. Quick check will prove it. Suthasianhistorian8 is quite familiar with these socks and deliberately trying to prevent from this findings. This user needs to stop his harassment of other users.

I'm less involved in that these days, so my recommendation is to file an SPI report. RoySmith (talk) 16:23, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

CLOP on The Chequers, Potters Bar
Happy new year @RoySmith! Thank your help and reasoning on the DYK for The Chequers, Potters Bar. You mentioned at the time that the history section was closely paraphrased from here. I have tried to rewrite the section to remove this, but I would like a second opinion on if this has been done effectively, and I thought you were the best person to go to.

Kind regards, JacobTheRox (<u style="text-decoration:none;color:#674ea7">talk ) 12:31, 14 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @JacobTheRox Hi, and thanks for your note. I'll be on the road all day today, but I'll try to take a look when I get time. RoySmith (talk) 12:54, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @JacobTheRox OK, we're on a break now, so I took a look. I don't remember exactly what it was like earlier, but let's look at one paragraph from the current version and from https://southherts.camra.org.uk/2019/05/a-pint-at-the-local-13-chequers-potters-bar/, which I assume was used as the source:
 * The automated comparison is available via earwig For sure, some things will fall into the "there's only so many ways to say that" category.  Certainly, years, names of people and places, etc, will all appear in both versions identically; that's not the issue. What I'm looking for as a reviewer is not the matching words (which is what the automated tool picks up), but also the overall flow.  If you look at the two versions, it's clear that the wiki text was created by going through the source sentence-by-sentence, tweaking words here or there.  If you ask multiple reviewers, you'll probably get different opinions on this, but to my mind, this still constitutes close paraphrasing.  What you want to do is read the source, understand what it's saying, and then write some original prose of your own which expresses the key ideas.  I you start with the original text and modify it by changing words, rearranging sentences, etc, you will inevitably end up with a problem.
 * Hope that was helpful. RoySmith (talk) 17:16, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hope that was helpful. RoySmith (talk) 17:16, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

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Meant to leave this "?"
I wonder if you meant to leave behind this orphan "?" Maybe a placeholder? Bruxton (talk) 17:08, 19 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I snarfed that to fill the gap in the queue after I pulled Kevin Lippert. Somebody else can back-fill the prep. RoySmith (talk) 17:13, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Undeletion requests - Bethan Lewis & Lleucu George
Both Bethan Lewis & Lleucu George were created by a blocked user, please draftify so that I can make edits to it. Thank you. Requests for undeletion denied here WP:RFU & here WP:RFU. Recommended to talk to you. LouisOrr27 (talk) 13:48, 22 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Sorry, those were created a a WP:LTA. I'm not going to restore them. RoySmith (talk) 15:58, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

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 * Hi @Smallbones Thanks for the ping.  I've been making small changes to the copy in my user space, which I see you've just renamed, so all good there.  I like the idea of using File:Grandstand and clubhouse at Fleetwood Park.jpg instead of repeating the same image, so I did that. RoySmith (talk) 21:59, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

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Template:Did you know nominations/The Chequers, Potters Bar
RoySmith, you unpromoted this nomination due to significant issues noted at WT:DYK back on January 3 (see Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Archive_196 for details), but never retranscluded it on the main nominations page. Four weeks later, it's still in limbo; the nominator appears to have done some work to address the CLOP issues on January 14, but I have no idea whether this is enough. There's also recently been activity around DYK to clean out many unfinished nominations that are over two months old, and this one is approaching three months, having originally been nominated on November 4, the date it was originally 5x expanded.

Can you please take a look and see whether it looks like this is ready for promotion? If it isn't, it should probably be closed; if it is, perhaps you could note its current state with the appropriate icon? Please let me know one way or the other. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:41, 31 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @BlueMoonset I've closed the nomination. RoySmith (talk) 15:19, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I've done the formal rejection. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:29, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

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American Bank Note Company Printing Plant
This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 20 March 2024. Please check that the article needs no amendments. Feel free to amend the draft blurb, which can be found at Today's featured article/March 2024, or to make comments on other matters concerning the scheduling of this article at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/March 2024. Please keep an eye on that page, as comments regarding the draft blurb may be left there by user:dying, who assists the coordinators by making suggestions on the blurbs, or by others. I also suggest that you watchlist Main Page/Errors from two days before the article appears on the Main Page. Thanks and congratulations on your work!—Wehwalt (talk) 23:14, 1 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Cool, thanks! RoySmith (talk) 23:18, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * @Wehwalt I see there's no blurb there yet; I assume I should just go ahead and write one? RoySmith (talk) 23:19, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I've written one now, but feel free to amend it. Just don't expand it by more than 22 characters as it is at 1003 characters, 22 less than the maximum. Wehwalt (talk) 23:29, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

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 * Ombuds Commission, but thanks! RoySmith (talk) 00:51, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

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task to administer SecurePoll locally
See this comment thread on the Requests for adminship discussion page. isaacl (talk) 00:13, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Flaco (owl)
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