User talk:Royalbroil/Archive6

Questionable Star
You may wish to retract your award of "well-oiled machine" to User:BetacommandBot because it had to be blocked yet again, due to this series of incidents (message and many following). You may also wish to consider the behavior of the bot operator too. Hu 21:58, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm under the impression that stars are more or less non-revocable except if the user is completely bad or banned. The bot has made hundreds of thousands of edits, so it can't be that bad on the whole. I checked out the diff on the person behind the bot. I'm assuming good faith. Maybe the person was frantically trying to revert the edits, and they were tired of getting their talk page loaded with message. I'm an IT person with networking experience. I know that when things get out of hand, you repeatedly get messages that don't allow you to fix the real problem. You just want everyone to stop messaging you. Royal broil  04:23, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Simonsbath DYK
Hi, Thanks for the DYK banner for Simonsbath - but I've just noticed it got to the front page with "square miles" twice in the hook - don't know if that is my error&mdash; Rod talk 22:04, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Eagle Tractor in Appleton, Wisconsin
Hi! I beat you to working on the Eagle Tractor article. Some of my ancestors worked there in Appleton. I found 2 citations and did some wikification. Hopefully, the article will not be deleted. Thanks-RFD 22:07, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

DYK
Thanks for the notification, and congrats on your recent adminship. Tyrenius 03:22, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Western Pipe & Steel
Thanks so much for the promotion, Royalbroil! Beleive it or not, I spent literally months researching that article, paid $40 for an obscure tome on the subject, then spent additional weeks trying (and mostly failing) to get permission from various sources to use their images, and finally struggling to massage all the information I had accumulated into a comprehensible and (hopefully) interesting article. By far the hardest article I've ever had to write, so naturally I'm very happy to get some recognition for it :)

Just one minor point - and sorry to be such a perfectionist - but I'm just a tad dissatisfied with the hook as it is. I was going to change it myself after I saw the article got promoted, but then I wasn't sure if there's an absolute limit on the text to go into an update, so I didn't.

But basically, since there seems to be enough room, I'd like the hook changed from "the only shipbuilder to bid" to "the only shipbuilder to submit a bid" (without the italics of course). Could I impose on you to make that little tweak for me? Regards, Gatoclass 13:41, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * ✅. Great article! I have no time to credit you (or anyone else) right now. Royal broil  14:27, 2 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks RB. Much appreciated! Gatoclass 14:29, 2 December 2007 (UTC)



Trane Company in La Crosse
Hi! There was an interesting article in the La Crosse Tribune this morning about the Trane Company. The Trib also had an very interesting timeline in the paper which unfortunately was not on line. I get the Trib everyday. I was able to cite the article in the Trane artcle this morning. One thing about the Farm tractor article Appleton, Wisconsin- do you think you think the title should be change to that of the company? Thanks-RFD 16:44, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I meant Eagle tractor not Farm tractor.My apologies. Thanks-RFD 17:48, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I found another citation about the Dr. Charles G. Crosse in Sun Prairie. But, I had to put it as an external link because the present citation were more complex in their makeup. I hope it helps. Thanks again- RFD 19:22, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Some people argue that print media is better than online, so you are wrong to assume that something needs to be online to use. I can't tell if I'm misunderstanding your comment or not. About the Eagle tractors article: I was planning to approach you on its name. It should either be called the same name as the company with redirects into it, or it should be Eagle tractor (singular). The plural is definitely wrong. My dad has heard of Eagle tractor. Do you want help with formatting the citations in the Grosse article? Royal broil  21:29, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi! 1- On the Tribune citation for Trane it is better then nothing since the article mention about American Standard taking back the Trane Company name. I do wish the Tribune had the Trane Company history dateline in it. I therefore used the Trib article as a citation. 2- With the citations in Dr. Crosse House article, I do not know if the citations were put in in there correctly or not. I did not want to wrack the article by putting an extra citation in. 3- As for the farmer tractor article I think the article should be redirected to the name of the company. I leave that one to your judgment. Thanks- RFD 23:26, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the changes-RFD 11:45, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

68.217.154.39‎
I just gave a final warning to 68.217.154.39 for a series of edits made last night. I agree, this user should be blocked if one more disruptive edit is done. It's getting ridiculous. Thanks. Caster23 talk  contribs 18:17, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Mining in South Africa
Thanks for the notice on this article's DYK hook - and congrats on your successful RfA. Best, ZZ Claims~ Evidence 15:12, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Message to Royalbroil
I hear we have a new administrator we have, Royalbroil, or should I call the new admin Darth Broilius? I sense great fear in you, RoyalBroil. You have hate... you have anger... but you don't use them. I sense a great deal of confusion in you, young Broil. There is much fear that clouds your judgment. I sense a plot for you to destroy the Wikipedia. Twisted by the dark side young Broil will become. The boy we trained, gone he may be, consumed by Darth Broilius. Our worst fear have been realized. He has control of the admin panel and the main page. He's too dangerous to be left as an admin. You could still be a user on Wikipedia, but we do not grant you the rank of admin, not yet Young Broil. You have much to learn. JuneJhig 06:55, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Minds
Great minds think alike!! By the way, you don't have to protect the image once you have uploaded it. The cascading protection of the main page does that for you! Regards. Woody (talk) 15:04, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I wasn't positive, so I protected it just in case. I've been watching: some admins protect it and others don't. About the upload: your upload wasn't started when I started uploading it. When I saw you had uploaded the image, I paused to see if you were promoting the next group. After you did, I left the rest for you. Thanks for jumping in and promoting the group! Royal broil  15:42, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, that red banner had been annoying me, so I did it for the first time! Woody (talk) 16:28, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

In doubt
You were the Chosen Admin! It was said you would destroy the vandals, not join them! Bring balance to Wikipedia, not leave it in darkness! You were my brother, Royalbroil. I loved you!

JuneJhig 17:55, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

deleted satellite image
Royalbroil, you tagged a satellite image I put on Springport Motor Speedway for deletion. Its US Goverment image, I believe that's open to use. Am I wrong or did I tag it wrong ? thanks. Patrick.

DYK on Gungsrong Gungtsen
Thanks so much for putting the info from my article on Gungsrong Gungtsen on the Did You Know list. It is a real honour and much appreciated! Apologies for taking so long to write - but we are having the worst heatwave ever here in Cooktown, Australia and I haven't been able to stay on the computer for long as I start dripping all over it (I don't have an air conditioner - just fans - as all our electricity is produced by solar panels and air conditioners just use too much power for our system. Anyway, thanks again. I hope I will have more info of interest again soon! Best wishes for the Christmas season and throughout the New Year! Cheers! John Hill (talk) 01:25, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * We have the opposite temperature here right now. The bank said -12 degrees Celcius. It's no wonder that a few top American midget car racing drivers go there for the winter to race. Royal broil  06:02, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Email
Fired you one.  Daniel  06:56, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks.  Daniel  07:02, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the words of encouragement. I was initially reluctant to participate too heavily in DYK maintenance but it seems the admins are happy to have a helping hand, and I kind of enjoy preparing the page now and then :) Gatoclass (talk) 21:22, 7 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I was shocked when I was asked to run. It takes a long time to do both parts together at one time


 * I imagine it would!


 * I probably initially started fooling with it because I wanted to give my own entries more chance of success, but then I found it's kind of fun picking an appropriately varied bunch of hooks, tweaking them a tad if necessary, and re-arranging them in what is hopefully an interesting sequence. There's a degree of creativity in it. Gatoclass (talk) 21:54, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

DYK
Heh. that Inuse on DYK would have worked great... if I hadn't been editing it. Oh, well. Think I sorted it - checked the diff, added one you had selected that I hadn't. Vanished user talk 04:35, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I would have observed it, but realise it doesn't actually show until you hit save, and I had been editing for several minutes. But I checked the diffs and copied over one of your selections that I hadn't picked. Vanished user talk 04:41, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I think I moved all of yours to the next update. I'll double check. Vanished user talk 04:45, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Oops, no, I had missed one. Though can you check that I put the right Eric Kattus tag up? I know nothing about American football, and it's all gibberish to me =) Vanished user talk 04:50, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, you'll have to get cracking on your home team then =) And sorry about all the trouble: Just I don't like people to miss out without good reason, so figured I'd have a rifle through December 4th, since there were a lot of noms. Going to be a little hard to get all the nice pictures in - I do like the Creme brulee one - but, well, as has been pointed out to me after some worry last night, we can fudge the rules a little bit to balance the updates. (the pictured fact in the update we were working on is actually from December 3, held back to balance out updates. =) Vanished user talk 05:06, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * No apologies needed. It happens. I wish I could feel comfortable with going through the articles listed for the next update faster. Too bad there are so many United States articles nominated for December 4th. I was hoping to use about 1/3 U.S. in this next update. About 8 hours from now is a time during most weeks where the update doesn't get done on time. I looked through the whole list of articles so that I can quickly update the main page at that time (if needed), since it is time to get to sleep here. I understand and agree with small bends in the rules needed to keep the DYK list balanced. My favorite picture is the snocross one, but I'm a little biased! I should get cracking on my home team! American football is not my strongest area, so maybe later. Royal broil  05:19, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, I'm in Britain, and I'm up. I'll get the next update, and try to catch the one after that. Vanished user talk 05:28, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks for your quick response about the proposed mergers of the towns and cities Madison/Janesville. It is greatly appreciated. Thank you-RFD (talk) 18:12, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

DYK

 * Thanks for the medal, and congrats from me as well to you for another fine DYK, also helping to expand motorsports of all kinds here on Wikipedia. The359 (talk) 04:45, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

RE:DYK
Thanks for your kind comments, its always nice to see a reward for your work. Hopefully someone will come along and vote for it at FL, although it seems things go very slow over there. Oh and if you ever feel like it, I am actually the one who is trying to get the Packers Wikiproject back on its feet, so if you ever do have a little space on your plate, drop in! Thanks again! Gonzo fan2007 talk ♦ contribs 18:15, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you and Congrats!
Hi Royalbroil,

Many thanks for sticking two of my nominations for DYK on the main page recently and many congratulations on your recent adminship!

--Chrisfow (talk) 00:47, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, but no, thanks!
I find that I can usually do what I need to do and want to do without admin powers. Why look for trouble? Thanks for the kind consideration, and happy editing! Chris the speller (talk) 17:21, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

 * You're welcome. I added a wikilink and the diffs to the award so people know what you're talking about. I asked and successfully found flickr contributors to relicense their images so that they could be used in the List of Green Bay Packers first-round draft picks article while it was under consideration to become a Featured List. Flickr is a great place to find images. I routinely use it to find images. I found images of all of the 2007 NASCAR NEXTEL Cup drivers. All it takes is asking a few people. Royal broil  20:39, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah I actually now am thinking about getting a Flickr account and trying it out. Cuz I have seen some good photos for a lot of football players, but really thanks again.  It looks so much better! Gonzo fan2007  talk ♦ contribs 20:46, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
 * It really helps for you to put up some of your own photos too. They don't need to be professional but decent - I know mine aren't professional but they've improved a lot. A professional looking profile helps a lot. I recently redid mine after noticing User:Videmus Omnia/Requesting free content. It's a must read. Royal broil  20:54, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

RFA
Good to talk to you again. I would like to congratulate you on your RFA. I would have voted myself, I just didn't know you were nominated! I was wondering if you could write one up for me. You've got a great writing style and I know you'll do fine. I'd appreciate it. Talk to you later and thanks! --D-Day (talk) 20:34, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: DYK three at one time!

 * Re: User talk:Black Falcon

Thanks! I'm still a little new to DYK, but I'm considering increasing my involvement. If nothing else, it's interesting to read new articles that are of comparatively high quality (i.e. sourced), as opposed to Special:Newpages patrol, which unfortunately overlaps too much with WP:CSD patrol. Anyway, thanks again. Cheers, Black Falcon (Talk) 06:58, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Camping World
I haven't heard anything about the story yet, so I guess we should wait until Jan 1st like we have for the Cup and Busch/Nationwide Series.

And yes, I got your email. Thank you! --D-Day (talk) 17:40, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

(ALT) Bob Glidden
Hope that one goes up so everyone can go, "THAT'S NOT A WORD! Wait, is that a word? Damn, that's a word!" like i just did 86.42.83.73 (talk) 11:30, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I hope that the main suggestion runs. It's unbelievable that he qualified first for every event in a season. Royal broil  14:15, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

DYK thanks
I do plan to help with DYK as an admin, but want to learn all the tools first, thanks for asking and for the DYK notice, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:03, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

more of Marchbanks Speedway
Hi

There is some more contribution on Marchbanks Speedway at Articles_for_creation/2006-08-04. You may wish to check out if any text is worthwhile preserving. I will decline the article as it exists (I created it before remember!). Graeme Bartlett (talk) 05:58, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * ✅ I used it to expand the shape of one of the tracks. Thanks for the tip. Royal broil  06:38, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Some more declined articles are: Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:32, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Articles_for_creation/2006-07-16, and
 * Articles_for_creation/2006-07-16
 * Articles_for_creation/2006-07-16 and not yet declined:
 * Articles_for_creation/2006-08-23
 * I could see the first three having articles, but I'm not going to create them. The bottom one should get an article. It is a copyright violation of www.historicracing.com. I'll write one that is not a copyright violation. Royal broil  14:57, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Infield Parking
Hi - thanks for bringing the Infield Parking issue to my attention and apologies it's been five months before I replied!! I simply haven't been on wikipedia in ages because of other things going on. Anyway, I did take up your invite to join the discussion (or lack of) regarding Infield Parking http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_NASCAR#Infield_Parking - but it seems too little, too late. I would appreciate it if you could read my response when you have a free moment. I still think the site merits a reference, but as I say in my post, I don't have the time or inclination to fight for it. Wikipedia's loss! ;-) Greg (talk) 12:12, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

DYK

 * Is this wording better? I know winningest is a word, but it seems a little ungainly. Feel free to revert if you prefer the other one. Cheers,  Daniel  00:25, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * That's fine. Someone above was hoping that the word "winningest" would appear on the main page so people would look up the word and learn something. I was hoping that the main hook would be used instead of the alternative. Qualifying first for 23 straight events is absolutely AWESOME! Every event for the whole 1987 plus some into the next season. WOW! I wish I hadn't provided an alternative. Royal broil  00:31, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I never saw the alternate, unfortunately. If you provide me it I'll replace it, or you're probably free to do so yourself. Cheers,  Daniel  00:34, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll change it. Royal broil  00:36, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

DYK note
Ta for notification. Congrats on being sysopped! Tyrenius (talk) 14:30, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

pics of glidden
Its daft. A car must be better than nothing. Still your flickr pic sounds better still Victuallers (talk) 15:51, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


 * last msg ??? Victuallers (talk) 16:05, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Non admin view. The facts of the list cannot be copyrighted. Facts cannot be owned. The list I would suspect may have been seen as parochial being US only but that may be OK. In an Afd you would point to references to the list and maybe a cat you had formed?? Must admit I keep getting admin questions (maybe I look like a soft target?) Good luck. Victuallers (talk) 16:17, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

OK RoyalBroil on your head be it :-) How much work do I need to do? Victuallers (talk) 16:46, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Wisconsin Dells website
Concerning the Wisconsin Dells, Wisconsin website that was spam- the official City of Wisconsin Dells, Wisconsin website is link to the one you deleted.Please see the talk page at the Wisconsin Dells article. I suggested the City of Wisconsin Dells government website be link to the Wisconsin Dells article. Also there is a chamber of commerce website of Wisconsin Dells that could be link to the article but that is being update.I don't not like the present weblink because it does not have any information about the city government or the community in general it just caters to the tourists. Thank you-RFD (talk) 18:05, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

DYK time
Hi RB, since you seem to be active right now, could you check the time for the DYK update please? It seems to have got mucked up again. I think the next DYK change should be about due, but it's currently listed as six hours away again. Gatoclass (talk) 06:13, 21 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Oops my mistake, the update has already been posted, it just hasn't been cleared yet, sorry :) Gatoclass (talk) 06:16, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I just updated around 10 minutes ago. I'm currently crediting. I'll clear for the next update when I'm done awarding, keeping the one that you suggested. You can see what's up with me on at my contributions. Thanks for the heads up! Royal broil  06:17, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, thanks, I checked the update page history before I posted to you, I wrongly assumed the history would show the update when it had been made, but obviously it shows up on the mainpage, not the update history page! Gatoclass (talk) 06:22, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * A quick addendum to this question: Did the Grobschnitt article ever get DYK nomination? It doesn't appear in the archive or on the next update page. Thanks. Sidar (talk) 06:51, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

and now for yet another thank you...


has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!

Ta for the notification! It was nice to wake up (a little groggy) after my birthday to find that message. clicketyclick yaketyyak 22:31, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

DYK late
Are you free? DYK is overdue. I put some hooks and someone else filled it up so it's ready. I see that there are 9 hooks (within the max. of 10 and a bit more than what usually fits well, which is 8). However, it just encourages others to write and compensates for the lateness. Not defending it but it's not so bad. Thanks. Archtransit (talk) 00:03, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

DYK
Thanks for the note RB. I was going to leave you to finish it when I saw you'd started but then you stopped and I figured maybe you'd only wanted to make sure the ones that got left behind yesterday were promoted. I wasn't sure whether I should promote those ones or not, but I was thinking of going back to them since I managed to squeeze in large amounts of submissions over the weekend and I figured there'd probably be room for them now. But thanks for saving me the trouble :)

I completely forgot about protecting the picture. Thanks for reminding me of that. I'll give it a go and if I can't figure out how, I'll get back to you. Apart from that I'll let you know when the next update is ready, shouldn't be too long now. Hope you are nice and safe in the middle of your snowstorm :) Gatoclass (talk) 13:00, 23 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry RB, but I can't figure out how to upload a file from commons to wiki. Unless you can give me one or two simple instructions on how to do it, I don't think I'll be able to figure it out tonight, because it's very late here, and I'm tired and my concentration is waning. Other than that though, the update is ready to go. Gatoclass (talk) 13:37, 23 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, this update took me a while. To begin with, every submission I checked out had a really nice picture to go with it when I looked at the article, and I thought, heck, these would do as nice leads, so I didn't want to use them in a secondary spot. I ended up promoting my own submission just because it was one I knew didn't have a pic and one that I knew I wouldn't have to check!


 * Then I seemed to have a lot of trouble trying to get them all nicely organized. What I always try to do is interleave the stronger hooks with the weaker ones, the shorter with the longer, and not to have two on the same subject or about the same country next to each other. Then I like to finish with a nice lighthearted one, because it seems appropriate somehow. But sometimes it's not all that easy to find the right sorting sequence, and this was one of those times. I guess it's partly because I am tired too. Anyhow, thanks once again for your assistance RB, it's much appreciated. Sounds really *cold* where you are, so I hope you have a good heater to keep you warm :) Gatoclass (talk) 13:57, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

NHRA list
I saw your questions at the Pump about the Top 50 drivers list. It seems to me that an article, National Hot Rod Association Top 50 Drivers, 1951-2000, would be about that list. It would talk about how it was compiled, who the authors were, how the choices were made, how influential it is, all that kind of stuff. Such an article wouldn't have the entirety of the list, but could certainly include examples of some of the drivers included, and why they made the list (number of wins, influence, etc.). Just my two cents. -Freekee (talk) 16:50, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Editor review/Dihydrogen Monoxide 2
Thanks for your comments and kind words, especially relating to my apparent knowledge of science - my chemistry teacher would love to hear that! &mdash; Dihydrogen Monoxide (Review) 23:18, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Next update
No worries at all about the mix-up :) I'm not an admin and I'd be delighted if you could do the next update.  (I had originally grabbed the Hector Munro Macdonald article, but realized it made the next update a bit long on my monitor. If you think it should be re-added, definitely do so.) --JayHenry (talk) 03:16, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Erroneous edit
I have undone your edit.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 06:07, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem. However, if you have a chance take a look at the article.  It is currently at WP:FLC and needs some support ad Featured list candidates/List of United States business school rankings.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 02:33, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

DYK its Christmas R B?

 * Thank you! I wish a Merry Christmas to everyone that celebrates this holiday, and a good day to those that do not! Royal broil  05:40, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Season's Greetings
May this season bring you success, good times and happiness. Looking forward to working with you in the future. Hαvεlok  беседа   мансарда  07:33, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks and happy christmas season
Thanks for your encouraging words re Clifford Last article. U made my day. Wishing you a happy season and best year ahead in life and wiki. Julia Rossi (talk) 09:32, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Max-Planck-Institute of Quantum Optics
Hello Royalbroil. Merry Christmas! The article Max-Planck-Institute of Quantum Optics, which I substantially expanded appeared in the DYK section. User:Stone also deserves credit for it. He created the article. Please inform about it in his talk page. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 14:07, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Masterpiece2000 (talk) 04:50, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Lawman (film)
Thank you very much for your kind message and for following up in the middle of a very busy holiday season. I really appreciate it. I wish you the best of the season. Take care. Dr.K. (talk) 16:03, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar
My first! Thanks very much RB. I wanted to make sure we had some good Christmasy-type hooks over Christmas, and I think it worked out pretty well. I've quite enjoyed doing it over the last couple of days, but someone else will have to do the next one because I'm about to hit the hay :)

Thanks to you too for being around to make sure the updates get promoted on time. We are getting a bit of a backlog ATM so I think it's important we keep getting them out on time right now, people seem to get very disappointed if they nominate and miss out. I'm hoping we can catch up later because we had a lot of noms lately but they seem to have dropped off a bit today.

Merry Christmas to you! Gatoclass (talk) 16:30, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

An Administrator is I!
Adventurer! The Council has identified a number of strange occurrences (such as "vandals" and "articles for deletion") in the surrounding wilderness. The Council would check it out, but they have important Councily-type things. But never fear: brave adventurers known as "sysops" roam the lands!

Thank you for your support in my quest to become a sysop. Although I am now wielding the keys to my very own Bitchin' Meatcar, I promise to uphold the laws of the land, martini in hand, in a way that would make Saint Sneaky Pete proud. I will do my best to be a Jack of Several Trades (although I may be a Master of Nuns). I promise to Heart Canadia. And I will make it my goal to Make War, Not ... er, Wait, Never Mind.

I am glad to serve my guild, the League of Wikipedians. If I can be of any assistance, or you have any questions, suggestions, or criticisms in the future, please let me know. And if you are at a loss for what any of the above actually means, see this website.

Thanks again.

An Encyclopedia is We! - Revolving Bugbear  22:29, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

DYK update
RB, are you active? Carabinieri prepared the last update, but it seems he forgot to post it to the main page. Could you do the honours please? Gatoclass (talk) 15:05, 29 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Someone finally got around to posting it. Don't know if it was you, but thanks anyhow :) Gatoclass (talk) 15:11, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for your advice, I really didn't know where to put my concern. Everything in English Wikipedia has a strict process, so I must be careful when reporting something. I'm sysop of Vietnamese Wikipedia, where a user there upload Image:Vy.jpg and told that it's public domain in en.wiki. That's why I raise concern here. Thanks again. Vinhtantran (talk) 16:41, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

S&W Model 909
You deleted my article S&W Model 909 while I was creating it! You never gave me the option of discussing anything on a talk page or shared how to contact you. Please slow your roll! You may be some hostshot admin who knows Wikipedia inside out & upside down, but some of us who are willing to contribute good data may not be so fast!

So how about some helpful mentoring instead of jumping the gun and going for speedy deletion at the drop of a hat? If you had paid attention to the timestamps, you would have seen I just uploaded the pic and made the article within minutes of your seeking a speedy deletion. You may not realize it, but wiki syntax is not everyone's native tongue. I cut my teeth on HTML v3.2 or thereabouts, and everybody and his momma seems to have a proprietary derivative ala UBB code or wiki-markup or some other nonsense.

If you dislike my (first) article within the first few minutes that it goes up, could you at least check it within an hour, if not a day, and see if I am working on it? If you have something to share, please use the talk page. If you don't, delegate an admin who does, as your speedy deletion tactic does more harm than good.

Here's to hoping I can create a good S&W Model 909 article with no further interruptions from trigger-happy admins.

Dark Gravity (talk) 06:18, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Replied with userspace sandbox suggestion and an apology at Dark Gravity's talk page. Royal broil  13:42, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the great suggestions. Your professionalism is most welcome.

Dark Gravity (talk) 18:33, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

DYK question
Hi. I'm not real clear on the protocol at T:DYK but does your removal of one of my hooks mean there was something wrong with it? If so, may I ask what so I don't repeat it? Thanks. —Wknight94 (talk) 12:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, no apology necessary! I was just wondering if I'd done something wrong.  Thanks for clearing that up.  :)  —Wknight94 (talk) 13:55, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your work work on DYK
Hi, I know that DYK is often thankless backroom stuff so here is an official thank you!!! Benjiboi 14:16, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I appreciate the thoughts. I benefited from DYK for a long time before I became an admin, so I understand how important it is to some contributors. Royal broil  14:19, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Mercy @ DYK
The ssystem can't cope with all these noms....Sorry If I sound too cranky.... Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 08:20, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Would you take a break from nominating for a few days so that we can catch up? We have a long backup right now. -- Royal broil 14:06, 31 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Sure! Royalbroil, you'll get a break longer than a few days.  And, Blnguyen, you don't sound cranky at all.  Unless  comes up something outstanding this afternoon (nothing at User:AlexNewArtBot/GoodSearchResult appeals to me right now... maybe Schloss Hellenstein, but it needs refs.), I've already posted my last nom in 2007 last night. :-)
 * I had extra time with myself this past week because I had a flu, and I couldn't have much decent sleep because of the symptoms. I couldn't work on the data analysis I was supposed to do as I couldn't concentrate enough to deal with spreadsheets, but I could edit at Wikipedia reasonably well bewteen naps.  I feel much better now, and I'll go outside and play instead of nominating. :-)
 * My travel and work schedule won't allow me to wiki-contribute much in the next month or so. I guess I'll have to wait till February or March, 2008 to resume my DYK nom-bombardments. 8-D
 * Happy New Year to both of you. May everything be GREAT in two thousand and eight!  Cheers!
 * --PFHLai (talk) 18:51, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry. See my talk page for why.Mrs.EasterBunny (talk) 20:27, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Hispanic Racing Team
Problem is though, is that the team never ran a race. That's why I wanted it deleted, as there were notability problems. --D-Day (talk) 14:27, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

raceway
thanks. I get a thrill out of "saving" an article. best, -- brew  crewer  (yada, yada) 04:53, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Happy New Year

 * Happy New Year to you and everyone else! Royal broil  13:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

T:DYK.
Happy new year, and congratulations! · AndonicO Talk 12:44, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

F1 pics
Yeah, definitely. It may take me a day or two to get round to it though. Busy time of year again! Hope you had a good holiday period. Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 15:43, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:JupiterRisingAlbumCover.jpg
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 * Delete it at any time. I haven't messed around with fair use images for a long time. Royal broil  16:51, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Hodag
The fact that I even mentioned Mishepishu may constitute original research. I was unfamiliar with Mishepishu until I saw the Mythic Creatures exhibit at the American Museum of Natural History, but I found its resemblance to the Hodag remarkable, though it wasn't noted in the display. --Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 16:03, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I just did a Google search, and AMNH's website is the first to come up: http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/mythiccreatures/water/myths.php .  Apparently, "Mishupishu" is the more common spelling. --Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 16:05, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Boy Rangers of America DYK
You added the DYK to the article, but it seems to have been bumped from the list. --— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk  -  12:37, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK
I see that you have put the "in progress" tag on the next update as you update it. Consider putting possibly 7 hooks, not the current 5, because many of them are expired and DYK is late. This results in the left side of the main page being slightly bigger than the right. However, I think that is the intended result as the left side also has the featured article. Both of these sections are bulkier, unlike the 1 line news and history section on the right. Archtransit (talk) 16:24, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK triples
Thanks for all of your efforts on behalf of DYK and for noticing my hooks at all, let alone three them on two separate occasions. DYK is truly a wonderful way to showcase the newest Wikipedia article, and I'm always astonished at how much useful and interesting articles have yeat to be written. Thanks again! Alansohn (talk) 16:52, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Grrr..... :)

 * Thanks for the barnstar. It's always great to see that someone appreciates what you do. Grrrr has unfortunately been a familiar sound at the Next Update. I must be too slow or too careful. I recently learned to use in the inuse tag! Royal broil  17:00, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK:1959 Turkish Airlines Gatwick crash
Hi! Thanks a lot for your contribution. Cheers. CeeGee (talk) 10:05, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Preble, Wisconsin
I started an article about Preble, Wisconsin; it was badly needed. Is there any noticeable landmarks, etc., in the Preble section of Green Bay??? Thank you-RFD (talk) 23:37, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know much about Green Bay. I do know there's a Green Bay Preble High School. I didn't know that there used to be a township called Preble.


 * The fog in my area has killed my WiFi internet connection for the last 2 days, and more fog is expected for the next day. Don't expect to see me much for the next day or so. Royal broil  00:47, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. I did not know there was a Preble, Wisconsin until a few days ago.RFD (talk) 01:26, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

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 * Check out a few posts back. I removed the image from the article so that your metallic computer "friend" could delete it easier. I bet you're not going to read my reply either :))  Royal broil  04:28, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

RE:Packers HoF image
Hey Royalbroil, I am planning on cleaning up the Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame article and I had some concerns about your photo Image:GreenBayPackerHallOfFameEntrance.jpg. My concern is that this may not meet the standards in our image policy, since the logo itself is copyrighted by the Packers, and your photo would be considered a derivative work of the original logo. Now granted I am nowhere close to an expert on our image policy or copyright law, but I wanted to bring this to your attention, because if the article ever goes to WP:FLC, I am sure that this is going to come up. Hopefully I am wrong cuz I like the photo, but if I am right the photo probably should be removed. Thanks! Gonzo fan2007 talk ♦ contribs 23:46, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * My intention with the image was to take a picture of the entrance, not a picture of the logo. The picture is taken at the top of the steps leading down from the Atrium right behind the stadium. I cropped out the steps because I thought they looked wierd. Here] is the original. Here is a related image that might be able to be used otherwise. Royal broil  04:23, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah like I said Im not expert on image copyright so I dont know. I think the other one may be better since the logo isn't the centerpiece of the work.  I just gave the article a scan and I wasn't sure if that would be against the copyright.  Maybe you know an admin or someone else that could answer this question?  I just want to make that if we use a picture on the page that its going to be okay. Gonzo fan2007  talk ♦ contribs 04:32, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Haha dont get me wrong, I love all your photos and would love nothing more than to use them all. I just know that there have been problems when someone takes a photo of a logo, where the logo is the main piece in the picture.  I definitely think that this one would be the best, because obviously the logo is not the centerpiece and thus would be hard to claim it as a derivative work.  I think it would be best to just ask an admin who knows this stuff, because I would support any or all the photos lol. Gonzo fan2007  talk ♦ contribs 04:40, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
 * No offense taken. I want everything to be uncontroversial and legitimate too. I have asked someone for their opinion. If he doesn't have an opinion, maybe he can point us to someone who might be able to help us. I have licensed all three images under free use CC-SA, so they can be changed at any time. Royal broil  04:45, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

(de-indent)Cool cool, and theres no rush, I dont think The Packers are going to come looking for you or anything cuz you took a pic of their HoF logo :-P Hope all is going well and you had a good New Years, Ill be watching your talk page for any responses so Ill see if someone responds. Thanks for taking the time to figure this out! Gonzo fan2007 talk ♦ contribs 04:49, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The image Image:GreenBayPackerHallOfFameEntrance.jpg would most likely be considered a derivative image of the logo based on IFD discussion for similar images in the past. The logo is the main focal point of the image. A broader shot of the entrance with the logo occupying a much smaller percentage of the image would make the logo incidental and more likely to pass any copyright issues. The note on my talk page said there were three images. What are the other two? -Regards, Nv8200p talk 21:26, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
 * This one is probably the best from a copyright perspective. Even in the uncropped version of Image:GreenBayPackerHallOfFameEntrance.jpg, the logo is still the dominant feature. -Nv8200p talk 00:47, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the responses. I'll attempt to get image deleted on Commons. Every other time that I listed a Commons image for deletion it ended up staying. Royal broil  01:07, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

F1 pics
Just finished transferring a bunch to Wikimedia commons - there were a lot there of subjects for which we previously had no images. Many thanks for the heads up. Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 17:02, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm glad to see that it worked out so well. He sure is a nice person to work with! I told him that I would leave a testimonial on flickr about his drag racing pictures in the set of pictures. Would you do the same for him about his F1 pics? Let me know if you need a better explanation. Royal broil  17:11, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, no problem. 4u1e (talk) 16:04, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Now that is extremely cool! I'm pretty excited that we got to use his photos in 20 or so articles. Win win I guess. Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 17:17, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Flickr
Hi Royalbroil, and many apologies for not responding sooner. I'd love to help out with this, but as you might have noticed, WikiProject Aircraft is extremely busy at the moment implementing some broad re-organisation of articles. Would there be any problem with asking the contributor to wait a week? I'd be happy to work with him then. Cheers --Rlandmann (talk) 21:08, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Lyle Shelton article deleted
First thanks for the welcome.

Secondly the [Lyle Shelton]] article got deleted. Any advice you can offer about getting it undeleted? Lyle Shelton is potentially a significant player nationally with his joining the Australian Christian Lobby (ACL) and likely to be a serial candidate in future. He has been front page news on occasion. Has repeatedly made the sates major newspaper, and national news services.

The person who deleted it seems to be a bit trigger happy on the deletes from comments on their user page.

Alexlaw65 (talk) 03:23, 12 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry, you must think I'm very rude for not replying. Someone else had added another message underneath, which of course disguised yours, and I only just noticed it. Deb (talk) 11:03, 13 January 2008 (UTC)


 * It shouldn't be up to me. I thought it was a clear-cut case of "notability not proven" the way it stood, but if he can improve it, it's no problem as far as I'm concerned.  I thought you had dealt with it particularly well, and thanks for that. Deb (talk) 13:52, 13 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Hmm, that would certainly be true if I was going to restore it. I suppose it's a reasonable way of going about it even if he's recreating.  To be honest, I haven't thought about it much before, because usually the things I delete are straightforward speedies and they rarely get re-created in any useful form. Deb (talk) 14:46, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, but ...
I didn't create or expand guest appearance. All I did was rewrite the hook so it didn't read as if Clapton's guitar was playing the solo all by itself (I know people thought he was God at the time, but he wasn't ... :-)). Daniel Case (talk) 06:26, 13 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Give credit to User:Mikkalai ... he seems to have done all the hard work, and didn't get it. Then you can just revert your edit to my page. Daniel Case (talk) 06:31, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ Sorry for the mixup. User:Mikkalai has been credited properly. Royal broil  06:34, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Wonderful
Of course I'd like you to join in the RfA application. Don't think these real life probs are dramatic ... I just need to get a new car as mine was stolen. Cheers Victuallers (talk) 20:40, 13 January 2008 (UTC). Hi again. I see you are awake. Ive updated the Q&As .... does it need moving? Is the closing date still OK? Any advice? thx Victuallers (talk) 14:43, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!
I appreciate your nominating two articles I created for DYK. . . how very nice of you. I hope you don't mind that I made a slight edit to the comment about The Helen Morgan Story. Doris Day didn't reject an offer to star in the 1957 film opposite Paul Newman; she had been offered the opportunity to play the role in 1950 and turned it down then. Thanks again. MovieMadness (talk) 14:58, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

problem ... admin powers required...
As you may have noticed Im helping with DYK thx.

Just received this message Thanks a lot! But maybe some Admin should remove the word (pictured) from the hook, because it has been published without picture... ;-) Thanks again, Alex2006 (talk) 15:14, 14 January 2008 (UTC) Victuallers (talk) 15:23, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip ... I wasnt sure if it was me or you two. Anyway if you get to talk to Eddie Hill then maybe I need to look around for some gorgeous (wo)man to write an article on? :-) Pleased to here of your good fortune ... Victuallers (talk) 17:10, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Links to fee-based sources
Most of the fee-based links to the NYTimes are for articles from 1981 and beyond, which the Times has committed to make available for free. Some of the post-1981 haven't been converted, and I'll often include the link in anticipation of the changeover, even if the article requires a fee at the point in time that it was added. As a subscriber, I can look at a .pdf copy of the article, and I will never add a reference (with or without a link) without having read the actual article. For older articles, I am sometimes stuck in the habit of including a link to the preview, which often includes enough of the article to support the claim and to make the link useful even to non-subscribers. The source included here for Doris Day's rejection of the film role was a poor choice for inclusion with the link, as the mention was not in the preview, but deep in the article. As both you and I have indicated, there is no need to include a link, I just try do so wherever the article is available. Thanks again for your suggestion. Alansohn (talk) 17:01, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Well put. Thanks for responding. Royal broil  17:06, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

RfA Thanks
Hi Royalbroil - thanks for your participation in my request for adminship. It passed 52/0/0, and I'm now in possession of a shiny new mop. If you ever have a controversial topic you need taken on with an open mind and a judicial attitude, please don't hesitate to contact me. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 09:21, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Tom's photos
Does Tom from Flickr want to contact me? Are the Flickr images free use so that we can take them? I haven't looked at Flickr. Normally, I think the photographer should download them. If we get permission, we need free use permission, not just "ok to use on Wikipedia". I need to read the image policy but I am fairly certain that a "you can use it on Wikipedia or just for educational purposes" is not good enough. Archtransit (talk) 16:58, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK
Can you update the main page? (asked of 3 people, who will be first?) Mrs.EasterBunny (talk) 21:56, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for including St Barnabas' Church, Bromborough in DYK today. I didn't know it had been nominated.  Do you know who make the hook and nominated it? Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:31, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Another DYK
Thanks for your appreciation on Lyari River, but I cannot recall any wrongmarking, unless any specific edit is indicated. I only tagged article(s) after seeing the DYK's on Mainpage on 16 January. In fact there are still some anomalies at Recent Additions which I pointed out yesterday, and no one seems to have noticed as yet. Cheers -- Isles CapeTalk 11:30, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. I did credit three articles. All the rest were already done. Cheers -- Isles Cape</b>Talk 16:56, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * No. I'm afraid I didn't. -- Isles <b style="color:blue;">Cape</b>Talk 12:09, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK:Ertuğrul (Ottoman frigate)
Hi! Thanks so much for your contribution and for your nice words as well. Cheers. CeeGee (talk) 19:28, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK Medal
Hi again! I am really surprised about receiving that. Thank you very much indeed for your recognition. Surely, I will keep on contributing about articles on Turkey in general. Cheers. CeeGee (talk) 09:53, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Grafton image
Thanks. It's tough to get a picture of a town while standing on the street, isn't it? -Freekee (talk) 16:34, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Greetings
Just dropped in to say hi since your post on my talkboard. I enjoy sharing tidbits for Wisconsin articles or other places I lived or visited in travels.

Leprechauns (talk) 19:54, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the nom
I'll do a more thorough thx, but as you say it went very well. In fact I enjoyed it (in hindsight). When I have an hour to spare and see you are on line then maybe we could do a DYK update together?? Victuallers (talk) 22:26, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure, let me know. I do think that you should practice with the new admin school so you get used to your new tools, then you can start applying them to DYK. You actually only need the admin part to edit Template:Did You Know, the rest could in theory be done by an autoconfirmed non-admin. Images on the main page are automatically protected by cascading protection. You need to upload a Commons image locally to the English Wikipedia and give it a template, or give the image a template if the image is already local. Royal broil  22:35, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Thx for the offer,,, but sorry I don't have time at present ... but soon Victuallers (talk) 23:00, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the DYK
Thanks for the DYK on the Lake Placid bobsleigh, luge, and skeleton track article. I really appreciate it. Chris (talk) 14:41, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Archtransit (talk) 20:45, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK
Oops, just noticed your comment to TT about "too many US articles" in the current batch, just after I promoted another article about an American!

All the same, a lot of the articles for the last few days have been on US subjects, so I don't think there's much we can do about that. One can't expect an ideal mix every time. Gatoclass (talk) 05:36, 24 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I promoted the last article because it looked like missing out otherwise, as a questionmark had been raised about it. I did a quick search for an alternative but most of the older articles are US based as well.


 * I'm fine with doing the crediting if you want to promote the update. Gatoclass (talk) 05:47, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Battle of Ronaldsway - mass grave
Yep, pretty cool fact. Its not very common at all for a location to remain untouched for as long as that of Ronaldsway. Having been to the Isle of Man I found this very intriguing as the whole island has been more or less influenced by agriculture, roads etc. and I don't think the situation was too different back in the 1930s. Manxruler (talk) 08:35, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: DYK Next update clearing
I always do that; please see this latest "clear" --BorgQueen (talk) 14:50, 24 January 2008 (UTC)