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 * There's no apparent connection between the one-word title and the person in the infobox; no mention of this name or nickname in the existing article at Rúben Saldanha, the name in the infobox - this article as it stands just doesn't make any sense. Pam  D  15:32, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Modesto Acosta de la Rosa
Hello. Was wondering where in ref#1 it says he was promoted to Sevilla B in May 2013, and where in ref#3, which is just a teamsheet for the match, it says either that he made his debut or that the manager rested players ahead of the Europa League final. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:08, 19 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Like in Moisés Delgado López, refs seem to be added for the sake of it. That reminds me Roy, please STOP adding players to the first-team squad template just because they play ONE game in La Liga (or any competition for that matter), Moisés, Israel Puerto, Modesto and Carlos Fernández Luna belong to Sevilla Atlético!

Thank you --AL (talk) 15:43, 19 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Those players are listed at the website here. RRD13 (talk) 15:45, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

That has to do with the fact they were called to the first team in the last weeks, they belong to SEVILLA B. I tried to help, happy week --AL (talk) 15:49, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
 * How can you say, that a player who is been listed in the A squad mentioned in the official website belong to the B team?? RRD13 (talk) 15:51, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

My turn now, please see Sevilla B at the OFFICIAL website (http://www.sevillafc.es/nuevaweb/equipos/plantilla/3/sevilla-atletico). --AL (talk) 15:52, 19 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I also see you are reverting me, i will do the same and what will happen? We will both be blocked, do you think it's worth it man? --AL (talk) 15:54, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

We have to wait until they are DEFINITELY promoted to the first team, and clubs offer that news in their website when it happens. None of those four players (one is 17 years old!) have been offered full professional contracts yet. To make things easier for us, we have the SEVILLA ATLÉTICO template, why not make use of it? --AL (talk) 16:01, 19 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I apologize for saying "refs seem to be added for the sake of it", i know you are trying your best, but so am i, please trust me on this one i am 100% sure. I don't know if you ceased communication with me now because: 1 - you agree with my last paragraph; 2 - you are tired of me. I hope it's the first one.

Happy week --AL (talk) 16:54, 19 May 2014 (UTC)


 * To be fair, of course if you say (for example) Carlos Fernández Luna plays for Sevilla FC you will be correct, but only 99% correct. The 100% correct way to go is to say he plays for Sevilla Atlético, appears occasionally for first team. --AL (talk) 17:21, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

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Sourcing of BLPs
Hello. I note you didn't answer my question above about the sourcing of Modesto Acosta de la Rosa. So I'll rephrase it. Please will you read Wikipedia's policies on verifiability and biographies of living persons. And then please will you do two things. One, stop, as of now, adding "sources" to biographical articles which you know perfectly well don't verify the content you place them after. And two, please don't add content to biographical articles without adding sources that do verify the content. You could perhaps start with Cadinha, where the only cited source verifies the words "in 2013, he returned to his boyhood club" and very little else.

Deb, you've been here a long time now, and have created a lot of content. I see that AL has now added sources to the Mode article; you should be grateful to him. What's particularly concerning is that you've done a lot of work at WP:GA; I note barnstars higher up this page. I hope that you took sourcing rather more seriously in your work at GA, and I really do encourage you to take it seriously in your own creations as well. You don't want it to become a competence issue. Thanks for listening, Struway2 (talk) 08:55, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

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I finished the Review. What do you think?   TheQ Editor     (Talk) 00:33, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

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Hello, I'm Struway2. I noticed that you made an edit concerning content related to a living person   on Tomas Maronesi, but that you didn’t support your changes with a citation to a reliable source, so I removed it. Wikipedia has a strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Struway2 (talk) 07:45, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Several points:
 * . The external link to Soccerway is wrong, unless you've fixed it since I tagged it;
 * . Soccerway doesn't give "full" names, it gives as much of the player's name as it has a reliable source for. This means we can't assume that the name given on Soccerway is the player's full name;
 * . Items in the External links section are not sources. Football has an unwritten convention that infobox stats can be "sourced" in the external links section, although strictly speaking it shouldn't. But any other information, particularly personal information about living people, should be referenced to a reliable published source in the normal way.
 * Thank you for listening. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 08:20, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Although the page you link to at the HKFA site doesn't make it clear that the player's name actually is his full name, their policy is to use full names, as here, for instance, so that'd be OK as a source. But you need to put in inline, like any other reference, not just list it as one of a string of links in the External links section. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 08:52, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

What's next for GA?
Hi Royroydeb, I had completed my 2nd review that you approved of. Is there anymore steps to it? Thanks,   TheQ Editor     (Talk) 20:02, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

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Iran Pro League
where does it say that is mandatory to create a foreign players table in the main league article? S90ra — Preceding undated comment added 22:31, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
 * We don't need have Foreign players section on Iran Pro League.

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Peer review/Nea Salamis Famagusta/archive2
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I did not create Jordi Vidal, you did. Jordi Vidal Martín Rojas would have been fine if there was another Jordi Vidal already; normally you use his common name. In fact, there are several Madrid players that were like that: Jorge Franco → Burgui for example. Thanks! Raul17 (talk) 00:51, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

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I create Rafael Páez article and you propose it for deletion without any suitable reasons. I have mentioned some links for the proof and if you still don't believe check out Liverpool f.c.'s website and he is currently loaned to bologna. Don't misuse your authority as a wikipedia reviewer.Cheers!!! Sammanhumagain (talk) 07:09, 25 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Listen my dear boy, I can understand you are new to Wikipedia (on the courtesy you didnt sign your post). An article about a footballer is allowed as long as he has played in a fully pro league or made an appearance for his country in an official international match. Since the player has made none he is not notable. And this is not a use of the power reviewer, for your information :-) RRD13 (talk) 15:37, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

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GA Cup
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WikiCup 2014 August newsletter
The final of the 2014 WikiCup begins in a few short minutes! Our eight finalists are listed below, along with their placement in Round 4:


 * , a WikiCup newcomer, finished top of Pool A and was the round's highest scorer. Godot is a featured picture specialist, claiming large numbers of points due to high-quality scans of historical documents, especially banknotes.
 * 1) is a WikiCup veteran, having been a finalist every year since 2010. In the semi-final, he was Pool B's highest scorer. Cas's points primarily come from articles on the natural sciences.
 * 2) was Pool A's runner-up. Czar's points come mostly from content related to independent video games, including both articles and topics.
 * 3) was Pool B's runner-up. Another featured picture specialist, many of Adam's points come from the restoration of historical media. He has been a WikiCup finalist twice before.
 * 4) won the WikiCup in 2012 and 2013, and enters this final as the first wildcard. She focuses on biology-related articles, and has worked on several high-importance articles.
 * 5) is the second wildcard. George's points come primarily from meteorology-related articles. This year and last year, George was the first person in the competition to score.
 * , the third wildcard, was the 2010 champion and a finalist last year. His writes mostly on military history, especially naval history.
 * , the fourth and final wildcard, has participated in previous WikiCups, but not reached any finals. Bloom's points are mostly thanks to did you knows, featured lists and good articles related to sport and national symbols.

We say goodbye to this year's semi-finalists. ,, , , , and  have all performed well to reach this stage of the competition, and we hope they will all be joining us again next year.

There are two upcoming competitions unrelated to the WikiCup which may be of interest to those who receive this newsletter. The Stub Contest will run through September, and revolves around expanding stub articles, especially high-importance or old stubs. In addition, a proposal has been made for a new competition, the GA Cup, which the organisers plan to run next year. This competition is based on the WikiCup and aims to reduce the good article review backlog.

There is now a thread for brainstorming on how next year's WikiCup competition should work. Please come along and share your thoughts- What works? What doesn't work? What needs changing? Signups for next year's competition will be open soon; we will be in touch. If, at this stage of the competition, you are keen to help the with the WikiCup, please do what you can to participate in review processes. Our finalists will find things much easier if the backlogs at good article candidates, featured article candidates, featured picture candidates and the rest are kept at a minimum. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. and 22:09, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Other foreign players section on 2014 Indian Super League season page
I started a conversion here on this section in the 2014 Indian Super League season article. Participation would be welcomed. Cheers. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 16:15, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Biographies of living people
Hi, please can you make sure you add citations to your new articles about living people such as Hugo Meira and Bruno Wilson? You have been here long enough to surely know the importance of such citations and that biographies of living people, no matter how brief, must have at least one citation. I am popping this note up here before I finish reviewing them so that you are aware of the concerns and why I have tagged them the way I have. Mabalu (talk) 10:39, 4 September 2014 (UTC)