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Tech News: 2019-20
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 May. It will be on all wikis from 16 May (calendar).

Meetings
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Tech News: 2019-21
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The report for phase 1 of the talk pages consultation 2019 has been published. Communities are invited to start phase 2 of the consultation on their wikis.

Problems
 * File descriptions for files from Commons were not shown properly on other Wikimedia wikis for a few days. For example the image descriptions and license information were missing. This has now been fixed.
 * Some diffs show an error message when you try to see them. The developers are working on fixing it. It could be because of some edit comments.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * The content translation tool on Wikipedia can use machine translations. There is a system to stop translations where the editors do not fix machine translation mistakes. This warns or stops them if they seem to just copy what the machine translation gives them. If this system is too strict or not strict enough you can tell the language team.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The Wikidata  API endpoint will remove all aliases if the request includes an empty alias. This is how it supposed to work. It has not been working this way because of a bug. This will start on 12 June.

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Books & Bytes, Issue 33
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Issue 33, March – April 2019 
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Tech News: 2019-22
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-tools.svg Big changes to the replica database will happen on 3 June. Some tools on Cloud Services will stop working if the maintainers do not update them to use the new schema. This probably affects tools that query for revisions or log entries made by a user.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 May. It will be on all wikis from 30 May (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 29 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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Article quality and thoughts thereof
You wrote "If USRD wants to assess an article internally a certain way, then how does that harm Wikipedia?" It doesn't directly, unless it contradicts basic common sense.

Let's take Highway 17 for a minute. Now, when I search for sources, the first thing I see is this which says "One of the best ways to experience the scenery of the South is by driving along U.S. Highway 17, known as the Coastal Highway. This stretch of road runs almost 1,932 kilometers from Florida to Virginia and passes through many small towns – some directly on the Atlantic Ocean coast – that are filled with hidden gems you'll want to experience. Hop in the car and follow our path to a lovely, unforgettable journey". Sounds inviting.

Come to the article, and Christ on a bike, it's dull. "The road runs here, then it runs here, then over here, then crosses this state line, then ... yada yada yada". I realise we've got to write for a neutral point of view, but there's NPOV and there's pointless walls of text. Pretty much every transport article I've ever seen has got something on traffic, protests, public enquiries or objections - politics generally. Again, from a quick scan for searches, I can see harsh criticism over Donald Trump's highway policy plan, or rather lack of one. Don't they do things like the Claremont Road protests in the US - surely somebody somewhere has got the gumption to kick back against Trump's insane "climate change is a hoax created by the Chinese" mantra. So any highway article missing politics fails WP:NPOV - a core policy. Highway 17's article was also bereft of sources, until I added a few (see WP:V), and some "interesting" prose like "After a brief jog east, it runs roughly north" which sounds more like something somebody would do in a tracksuit before breakfast and going to work.

So I think saying this article is of poor quality is fair comment. When people say, "oh, but it's got this section, and this nice infobox, and it's all well formatted" - that's completely failing to see the wood for the trees, and I take a dim view of it when it's accompanied by a complete failure to tackle the substantial issues in the article. You wouldn't expect a well formatted and laid out article on a completely non-notable topic to survive an AfD would you? (Indeed, it's an argument to avoid). As BMK eloquently put it : "Start with an article that looks like shit and reads like it was written by a high-school dropout. A hundred edits later, take another look at the article – and it still looks and reads like shit. That's because the intervening edits did useful things like replace m-dashes with n-dashes, capitalized the first letters of template names, added interwiki links, vandalized and reverted the vandalism, made sure that bold text was being used as laid down in the manual of style, removed extraneous blank lines and miscellaneous other actions which did not, in any fundamental way, improve the article." Happens all over the place. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  15:43, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * It may be poor quality (and I don't think anyone is arguing that the article is of good quality), but that is considered sufficient for C-class. One could argue that the History section is "so lacking as to be discounted from the assessment" but that is a judgment call on the part of the reviewer. (And I don't know why you keep bringing up Trump, I think you are making assumptions about my political views that may not be true). --Rschen7754 18:36, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't think that about you at all and I can't remember discussing Trump with you in any other thread. Ritchie333 (talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  11:36, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
 * See oppose number 9 at Requests for adminship/RexxS. --Rschen7754 00:50, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
 * What was the point of bringing that up? I was trying to be conciliatory and tactful, and you decided to stir the pot. Regarding RexxS' RfA, I am so tempted to say "You lost - get over it" but that argument has been thoroughly discredited. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  10:38, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
 * You removed this comment but I will reinstate it just to illustrate a point: You come in with your own interpretation of what I am trying to say (which is often not what I am actually saying), and then attack it viciously. I did oppose the RexxS RFA. But as I said at the case request: I generally do wish him well and hope that he does become a good administrator. My purpose was to show that yes, you do keep bringing up Trump for some reason and then attacking me over it. (In the last election, I did not vote for Trump or Clinton). And even with how this thread started: you gave me a long lecture about how the article sucks - and yes, it does, I don't think anybody is arguing about that, what the argument is about is whether the level of "suck" is Start or C-Class.


 * I think that our interactions would be a lot better if you would actually take the time to listen. I just get this feeling that you think you know what is best for Wikipedia, and if people don't agree, that's too bad, they should either conform to your vision or be chased away. Maybe you don't agree with me a lot of the time, but I have written 10 FAs and served as a steward for one year, and I would hope that gives me the right to be heard. --Rschen7754 18:38, 23 May 2019 (UTC)


 * "I just get this feeling that you think you know what is best for Wikipedia, and if people don't agree, that's too bad, they should either conform to your vision or be chased away" No, you've misunderstood. It's more like "I think I know what is best for Wikipedia, and if people don't agree, they need to convince me why they're right and I'm wrong". I self-reverted my last reply because I thought it would be best to drop the stick and back slowly away from the horse carcass, but anyway I can't put this clearer, I'm not using Trump as a device to attack you or even attacking you. I'm just stating my views, possibly in a strong and forceful manner, but that's it. I'm not going to link to AGF because that's silly, but I assume you are here to improve the encyclopedia (anyone who claim somebody who can clear 10 articles through FAC is "not here" is lying, a troll or an idiot), and it's not so much disagreement as a lack of understanding or confusion. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  17:15, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 31 May 2019
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Tech News: 2019-23
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Recent changes
 * You can now write all special letters in all African Wikipedia languages. This works in the desktop version.
 * There is now a field called  on Commons. This is a way to show what is in a picture with the help of Wikidata. It is still in development.
 * Some tools on Toolforge may break on or after 3 June because of database changes. Maintainers should update their tools to use the new schema.

Problems
 * You will be able to read but not to edit Wikimedia Commons for 30 minutes on 19 June at 05:00 (UTC). This is to fix a hardware problem.

Changes later this week
 * Some wikis have one tab for the visual editor and one tab for a wikitext editor. Others wikis just have one tab. If your wiki has two tabs, clicking a link to create a new page has always opened a wikitext editor. It will now open the editor you used the last time you edited.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 May. It will be on all wikis from 6 May (calendar).

Meetings
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Administrators' newsletter – June 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2019). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Andonic • Consumed Crustacean • Enigmaman • Euryalus • EWS23 • HereToHelp • Nv8200pa • Peripitus • StringTheory11 • Vejvančický

CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Ivanvector

Guideline and policy news
 * An RfC seeks to clarify whether WP:OUTING should include information on just the English Wikipedia or any Wikimedia project.
 * An RfC on WT:RfA concluded that Requests for adminship and bureaucratship are discussions seeking to build consensus.
 * An RfC proposal to make the templates for discussion (TfD) process more like the requested moves (RM) process, i.e. "as a clearinghouse of template discussions", was closed as successful.

Technical news
 * The CSD feature of Twinkle now allows admins to notify page creators of deletion if the page had not been tagged. The default behavior matches that of tagging notifications, and replaces the ability to open the user talk page upon deletion.  You can customize which criteria receive notifications in your Twinkle preferences: look for Notify page creator when deleting under these criteria.
 * Twinkle's d-batch (batch delete) feature now supports deleting subpages (and related redirects and talk pages) of each page. The pages will be listed first but use with caution!  The und-batch (batch undelete) option can now also restore talk pages.

Miscellaneous
 * The previously discussed unblocking of IP addresses indefinitely-blocked before 2009 was approved and has taken place.
 * The 2019 talk pages consultation produced a report for Phase 1 and has entered Phase 2.

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Tech News: 2019-24
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Recent changes
 * When you create a PDF from a page on the wiki this is now done by Proton. Before this we used Electron. It should look the same but work better. Both use Chromium. This is a different system from when you collect several articles into a book and make a PDF from them.
 * The Flagged Revisions extension now uses the standard OOUI icons. There will be additional minor fixes for positioning in the next deployment.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Bots and other scripts that do not set an identifiable User-Agent may find their requests strictly rate-limited until they identify themselves properly.

Problems
 * Please check if the Flagged Revisions configuration on your wiki is as you expect (or as it was a few weeks ago). If not, please report it.

Changes later this week
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 12 June at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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Quick Question about Template:Jctint/core
Not sure this is the right place to ask for help, but hopefully it's not too much of a bother. I've been using Template:Jctint/core to make junction lists for Indian highways, seeing as there isn't a separate format. I'm trying to make a multiple state junction list, but what I have below does not work properly.


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The region cell doesn't show up despite the formatting being correct according to the Template:Jctint/core page. So my question is if you know how to get this to work properly. If not, that's fine. Thanks for your time! Mausoleum Man (talk) 00:36, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Do you know why this would be the case? --Rschen7754 01:07, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The region requires a rowspan even for one row. When Jctint/core was designed, it was assumed that roads that cross state lines would be the exception and not the rule (especially in the U.S.).  Thus the default value for regionspan is null.  That is, without it, the region doesn't show up.
 * it might not be a bad idea to create a wrapper template for India. As it was written, Jctint/core wasn't designed to be used directly on pages.  The idea was that it used geographically generic terms and wrapping templates would provide local context.  See the differences among, , and  in Canada as an example.  I'm not saying there need to be 36 templates for India, but it is an option. –Fredddie™ 01:45, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for all of your help, I am definitely interested in potentially getting a template/templates for India, but I have to admit I have no idea how to go about doing that or even viewing the code for other templates. For now, I'll use Jctint/core just so I can start getting some ideas down, but if someone can take the time to make a template for India soon-ish, I could hold off until that exists. Thanks again! Mausoleum Man (talk) 02:08, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, misclick!
Didn't intentionally roll you back. <b style="color: Maroon;">Reyk</b> <b style="color: Blue;">YO!</b> 18:32, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-25
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Problems
 * You will be able to read but not to edit Wikimedia Commons for 30 minutes on 19 June at 05:00 (UTC). This is to fix a hardware problem.

Changes later this week
 * MIDI files can soon be played without the Score extension. You can then add them with . Later   and   will stop working. Instead you will need to add the MIDI file below the music score.
 * A new video player will soon replace the old one. You will be able to enable it as a beta feature in your preferences. It will later be enabled for everyone if there are no big problems.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 June. It will be on all wikis from 20 June (calendar).

Meetings
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Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg Some gadgets and user scripts still use the old  and   values. These values are always true. They will soon be removed. This might break the gadgets and scripts. You should fix your gadgets to not use these values.

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Tech News: 2019-26
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Problems
 * The new version of MediaWiki for last week was not fully released due to issues. It was removed from most wikis on Tuesday and from test wikis on Thursday.
 * Most wikis were slow and then briefly read-only last week due to one of the database servers having a problem. It is now replaced.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 June. It will be on all wikis from 27 June (calendar).

Meetings
 * You can watch or join the next Wikimedia Language showcase. It will be about the usage of Machine Translation in Wikimedia projects. The showcase will be on 26 June at 13:00 (UTC). A recording will be kept for later viewing
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 26 June at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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Winged Blade of Godric
Did you notice how he reverted your comment on his talk page. I am assuming that he doesn't want anybody to see what bad things he has done. He always makes comments like that. About a month ago I gave him a warning as he had removed maintenance tags from an article but he did the same thing (reverted my comments). Then he told me to stay away from his talk page without any good reason. This not an example of WP:Civility. Also some days ago when I moved some article to draftspace (they appeared to be not notable). Another editor warned me politely and guided me to the procedure. Then he showed up and threatened me to get me blocked by admins. This was basically gravedancing. I have less experience than him so he should have been polite and friendly towards me. Instead he bit me. I am a human too and have feelings just like others except bots. This really makes me unsafe and hurt. He always does that to me and other new editors. I would have considered WP:ANI but I am asking you to tell him to be polite and friendly towards new editors. Thanks. <u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Masum Reza <sup style="color:orange;">📞 05:27, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I suppose it would be appropriate for me to disclose that I have exchanged emails with him about some other matters. Because of that my comment was a bit more informal and while it was a bit blunt, it wasn't a "or I'll block you!" sort of thing. My impression of him is that he really does mean well but sometimes can come off a bit too aggressive.
 * If you were asking me to take admin action, I probably would have to recuse (and really you would need diffs for all of the concerns you raised so administrators could review the context). --Rschen7754 06:11, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Will this and this suffice? First one is a oldpage link and second one is a diff. Also here's the diff when he reverted my warnings. <u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Masum Reza <sup style="color:orange;">📞 06:20, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, so you would have to go to WP:ANI, not my talkpage. But looking at those diffs, while they are a bit blunt I do not think that it would even be blockable (and accusing them of gravedancing on your part isn't that great either).
 * Maybe this isn't my place to say this but I will anyway: from someone who was an active editor at your age (10+ years ago!) I would suggest taking things slowly and really listening to any criticism that you receive. It is possible to be an editor but you've gotta show that you're willing to learn from your mistakes. --Rschen7754 06:30, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the advice. I understand. I am trying to learn here. But his behaviour makes me feel annoyed (I am 16 year old). I have interacted with many editors thus far but he took things too far. <u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Masum Reza <sup style="color:orange;">📞 06:38, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I dunno. If I complained about every user who annoyed me on ANI, it would take a very long time (and I got a lot worse comments during the 14-16 age range). If it was a personal attack or harassment, I would say something different entirely. --Rschen7754 06:44, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

PSA
Participate in ArbCom elections. Participate in steward elections. Participate in WMF Board elections. They all can play a role in matters like the present. --Rschen7754 06:31, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Who are you talking to? <u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Masum Reza <sup style="color:orange;">📞 06:52, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Anyone who watches this page. --Rschen7754 07:06, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
 * You know, while I personally keep looking at this wiki popcorn turned a PTSD but Stewards doesn't care about this stuff (no discussion among us other than few personally asking 'wtf happened lol') or this wiki at all (because you know), so why do you think SE matters for these kind of stuff? Just curious. &mdash; regards, <span style="color:green;font-family:Courier new, serif;font-variant:small-caps">Revi  23:52, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Not as much as in this case, but in superprotect we did play a larger role. And if this had been a different wiki, it is possible stewards might have taken on more of an advocate role. --Rschen7754 00:15, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Good ideas
Please add some links for the additional issues you want considered in the case. I have a space limit and can only cover so much at this point. Jehochman Talk 18:37, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
 * They speedy declined it. I don't know that I agree with it, but that is reality. --Rschen7754 00:17, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Now there’s a motion by AGK to open such a case as a private hearing. We will see. Jehochman Talk 01:11, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

New section
I was a steward during superprotect. I was worried about this day coming, when we all discovered that the WMF doesn't care about us and that they would run this site into the ground through sheer incompetence.

That day has arrived. The ship is on fire. Do I try to put it out or do I jump ship? --Rschen7754 18:28, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – July 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2019). Administrator changes
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 * 1 's access was removed, then restored, then removed again.
 * 2 's access was removed, then restored, then removed again.

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Interface administrator changes
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CheckUser changes
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Oversight changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * A request for comment seeking to alleviate pressures on the request an account (ACC) process proposes either raising the account creation limit for extended confirmed editors or granting the account creator permission on request to new ACC tool users.
 * In a related matter, the account throttle has been restored to six creations per day as the mitigation activity completed.
 * The scope of CSD criterion G8 has been tightened such that the only redirects that it now applies to are those which target non-existent pages.
 * The scope of CSD criterion G14 has been expanded slightly to include orphan "Foo (disambiguation)" redirects that target pages that are not disambiguation pages or pages that perform a disambiguation-like function (such as set index articles or lists).
 * A request for comment seeks to determine whether Office actions should be a policy page or an information page.

Technical news
 * The Wikimedia Foundation's Community health initiative plans to design and build a new user reporting system to make it easier for people experiencing harassment and other forms of abuse to provide accurate information to the appropriate channel for action to be taken. Community feedback is invited.

Miscellaneous
 * In February 2019, the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) changed its office actions policy to include temporary and project-specific bans. The WMF exercised this new ability for the first time on the English Wikipedia on 10 June 2019 to temporarily ban and desysop . This action has resulted in significant community discussion, a request for arbitration (permalink), and, either directly or indirectly, the resignations of numerous administrators and functionaries. The WMF Board of Trustees is aware of the situation, and discussions continue on a statement and a way forward. The Arbitration Committee has sent an open letter to the WMF Board.

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Tech News: 2019-27
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Recent changes
 * The development of Wikidata Bridge has started. The goal is to allow Wikidata edits from Wikipedia.

Problems
 * Sometimes pages load slowly for users routed to the Amsterdam data center. Investigation is in progress.
 * Wikidata query service was overloaded between 11:50 UTC until 13:15 UTC on June 24. It has been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * You will be able to read but not to edit all wikis for a short amount of time, on 3 July at 06:00 (UTC). This is to move a database.
 * There is no deployment of a new version of MediaWiki on the wikis this week (calendar).

Meetings
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Tech News: 2019-28
<section begin="technews-2019-W28"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * For event organizers, if you request a temporary lift of the IP cap for mass account creation, this will now also raise the edit rate limit for those new accounts at the event, which will prevent another bottleneck.
 * Administrators at all Wiktionary, Wikivoyage, and Wikisource wikis are now able to use the new partial blocks feature.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 July. It will be on all wikis from 11 July (calendar).
 * The design of MediaWiki's software windows will change for desktop users. Layout will be simpler, buttons will be bolder and clearer, and close buttons will be just icons. This is like the mobile design. This will affect ContentTranslation, VisualEditor, TemplateWizard, and other tools.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 10 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Wikidata will be in read-only mode on 30 July from 05:00 to 05:30 UTC because of a server switch.
 * Octicons-tools.svg There will be a change in the name format of new Wikidata RDF dumps starting on 15 July.

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July 8 statement
(Crossposted from Meta userpage)


 * The good people protesting are not, for the most part, defending bad behavior. They are asking the WMF to consider how this action undermines our efforts to improve behavior. - Jimbo Wales

WMF Board, WMF, and ArbCom have now all made statements. It appears that there is a significant possibility of an amicable resolution.

But it is a sad day for the English Wikipedia. This is a watershed moment and there simply is no way to roll the clock back to how things were before. While some editors have returned over the last week, others seem burned out and may never return, because they have seen the damage that the WMF is capable of doing to its own community.

As for me, over the last few days I have resumed some of my Wikimedia projects as there is still more work to be done to improve community governance (Wikimedia-wide) and road content (English Wikipedia). Since 2014, my activity has always been subject to sudden increases and decreases, and unforeseen extended absences, and this will continue. (I do know that I will be mostly offline during the month of August). For now, I intend to continue in all of my current roles, though this incident combined with the superprotect one is not very encouraging. --Rschen7754 02:06, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Books & Bytes Issue 34, May – June 2019
<div style = "color: #936c29; font-size: 4em; font-family: Copperplate, 'Copperplate Gothic Light', serif"> The Wikipedia Library <span style="font-size: 2em; font-family: Copperplate, 'Copperplate Gothic Light', serif">Books & Bytes

Issue 34, May – June 2019 <div style = "margin-top: 1.5em; border: 3px solid #ae8c55; border-radius: .5em; padding: 1em 1.5em; font-size: .9em"> French version of Books & Bytes is now available on meta!
 * Partnerships
 * # 1Lib1Ref
 * Wikimedia and Libraries User Group update
 * Global branches update
 * Bytes in brief

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Tech News: 2019-29
<section begin="technews-2019-W29"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The mobile web will get more advanced editing tools. Seven more Wikipedias can use them now. This works for Arabic, Indonesian, Italian, Persian, Japanese, Spanish and Thai Wikipedia. You can try the tools on the mobile web and give feedback.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-tools.svg The abuse filter system user will soon do maintenance edits on broken abuse filters. This user is called   and has administrator rights. This is meant to fix technical problems. It will not do any other changes. You can read more.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 July. It will be on all wikis from 18 July (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 17 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * The Wikipedia app for Android will invite users to add image captions to images on Commons. It will only invite users who have added a number of edits in the app without being reverted. This is to avoid spam and bad edits. You can read more and leave feedback.

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Tech News: 2019-30
<section begin="technews-2019-W30"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Communities interested by easing newcomers' first steps can now benefit from the Growth team experiments on their wikis. Check the conditions and the request process.
 * The Coolest Tool Award 2019 is looking for nominations. You can recommend tools by July 29. The awarded tools will be presented at Wikimania.

Problems
 * The release of the last version of MediaWiki (1.34.0-wmf.14) has been blocked for groups 1 and 2.

Changes later this week
 * Phabricator database will be moved to a different server. Writes will be blocked on Thursday 25 July, between 05:30 and 06:00 AM UTC. Reads will remain unaffected.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 July. It will be on all wikis from 25 July (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 24 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Some items in the visual editor will change later this week. This will make it easier to edit links, citations, and templates on both desktop and mobile.
 * With advanced search turned on you will be able to choose the sorting order of the search results when you do a search.
 * Users who edit from IP addresses whitelisted on a request for temporary lift of the IP cap for mass account creation will bypass CAPTCHAs. This will happen in August. If you think this should not happen for some reason, please let us know.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The variable  will be removed from AbuseFilter. A list of filters needing a fix is provided.

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OpenStreetMap
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. <b style="background:#0000ff;font:Helvetica;padding:0.4em;font-size: 80%;border-radius: 2em;margin: 0.25em;"> Cards84664 </b> (talk) 02:46, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-31
<section begin="technews-2019-W31"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems
 * Wikidata will be in read-only mode on 30 July from 05:00 to 05:30 UTC because of a server switch.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 31 July. It will be on all wikis from 1 August (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 31 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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The Signpost: 31 July 2019
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Administrators' newsletter – August 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2019).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Johnuniq • Kosack • Valereee
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Ad Orientem • Ched • Gadfium • Jonathunder • Nick • Yelyos
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Bald Zebra • Beetstra • Doug Bell • Journalist • Ruud Koot • Splash • Voice of Clam

Interface administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Dinoguy1000

CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg RickinBaltimore

Oversight changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Beeblebrox
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg RickinBaltimore

Guideline and policy news
 * Following a request for comment, the page Office actions has been changed from a policy page to an information page.
 * A request for comment (permalink) is in progress regarding the administrator inactivity policy.

Arbitration
 * Editors may now use the template Ds/aware to indicate that they are aware that discretionary sanctions are in force for a topic area, so it is unnecessary to alert them.

Miscellaneous
 * Following a research project on masking IP addresses, the Foundation is starting a new project to improve the privacy of IP editors. The result of this project may significantly change administrative and counter-vandalism workflows. The project is in the very early stages of discussions and there is no concrete plan yet. Admins and the broader community are encouraged to leave feedback on the talk page.
 * The new page reviewer right is bundled with the admin tool set. Many admins regularly help out at Special:NewPagesFeed, but they may not be aware of improvements, changes, and new tools for the Curation system. Stay up to date by subscribing  here to the NPP newsletter that appears every two months, and/or putting the reviewers' talk page on your watchlist. Since the introduction of temporary user rights, it is becoming more usual to accord the New Page Reviewer right on a probationary period of 3 to 6 months in the first instance. This avoids rights removal for inactivity at a later stage and enables a review of their work before according the right on a permanent basis.

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Tech News: 2019-32
<section begin="technews-2019-W32"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 August. It will be on all wikis from 8 August (calendar).

Problems
 * A change in RelatedArticles extension accidentally enabled it for everyone, not just for mobile users. This has been fixed.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 7 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Today everyone can see IP addresses if someone edits without an account. In the future this could be more hidden. This is to protect unregistered editors so fewer can see their IP address. This would only happen after we make sure the tools for vandal fighting can still be effective. You can read more and comment.

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Tech News: 2019-33
<section begin="technews-2019-W33"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Editors using the mobile website on Wikipedia can opt-in to new advanced features via your settings page. This will give access to more interface links, special pages, and tools. Feedback on the discussion page is appreciated.
 * Due to the absence of volunteer maintenance of Cologne Blue skin, the link to activate it will be hidden. The skin will still work, but editors using it are encouraged to switch to another skin.

Changes later this week
 * Due to Wikimania, there is no deployment this week.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 13 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * The "Wikidata item" link will be moved from "Tools" to "In other projects" section on all Wikimedia projects, starting on August 21. Full announcement, Phabricator task.

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Tech News: 2019-34
<section begin="technews-2019-W34"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News
 * There will be no Tech News issue next week. The next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 2 September 2019.

Problems
 * Octicons-tools.svg Some abuse filters stopped working because of a code change. Only variables for the current action will work. Variables defined inside a branch may not work outside of that branch. You can read more to see how to fix the filters.
 * Only six accounts can be created from one IP address per day. Between 12 August and August 15 this was two accounts per day. This was because of a security issue. It is now six accounts per day again.

Changes later this week
 * Only a limited number of accounts can be created from one IP address. An IP address can be whitelisted so that it can create as many accounts as needed. This is useful at events where many new persons learn to edit. IP addresses that are whitelisted for this reason will also not show CAPTCHAs when you create accounts. This will happen on Wednesday.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 August. It will be on all wikis from 22 August (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 21 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * There is an RFC about creating a new global user group with the right to edit abuse filters. This will be used to fix broken filters and make sure all filters will still work when software changes happen. You can read more and comment.
 * will no longer be working. This is because of performance reasons. It showed edits by new accounts. You can see this in the recent changes feed instead.

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The Signpost: 30 August 2019
<div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:42, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-36
<section begin="technews-2019-W36"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * You can use the new termbox interface if you edit Wikidata on a mobile device. This is to edit labels, descriptions and aliases easier on the mobile pages.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki has been deployed during the last week.
 * The previously announced change of positions of the "Wikidata item" link on all wikis has been rollbacked due to unexpected cache issues.
 * The limit for rollbacks has been increased from 10 to 100 rollbacks per minute.
 * The advanced version of the edit review pages (Recent Changes, Watchlist, and Related Changes) now include two new filters. These filters are for "All contents" and "All discussions". They will filter the view to just those namespaces. However the "All discussions" filter does not include pseudo talk pages, like discussions that are in the Project: or Wikipedia: namespaces. But it will include changes happening on Project talk: or the Wikipedia talk:.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * When you log in, the software checks your password to see if it follows the Password policy. From this week, it will also complain if your password is one of the most common passwords in the world. If your password is not strong enough, please consider to change your password for a stronger password.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * You will be able to read but not to edit Wikidata for up to 30 minutes on September 10 at 05:00 (UTC).
 * You will be able to read but not to edit some mid-sized wikis for up to 30 minutes September 17 at 05:00 (UTC). You can see which wikis.
 * You will be able to read but not to edit some mid-sized wikis for up to 30 minutes September 24 at 05:00 (UTC). You can see which wikis.
 * You will be able to read but not to edit Wikimedia Commons for up to 30 minutes on September 26 at 05:00 (UTC).

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2019). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Bradv • Chetsford • Izno
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Floquenbeam • Lectonar
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg DESiegel • Jake Wartenberg • Rjanag • Topbanana

CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Callanecc • LFaraone • There'sNoTime

Oversight changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Callanecc • Fox • HJ Mitchell • LFaraone • There'sNoTime

Technical news
 * Editors using the mobile website on Wikipedia can opt-in to new advanced features via your settings page. This will give access to more interface links, special pages, and tools.
 * The advanced version of the edit review pages (recent changes, watchlist, and related changes) now includes two new filters. These filters are for "All contents" and "All discussions". They will filter the view to just those namespaces.

Arbitration
 * A request for comment is open to provide an opportunity to amend the structure, rules, and procedures of the 2019 English Wikipedia Arbitration Committee election and to resolve any issues not covered by existing rules.

Miscellaneous
 * A global request for comment is in progress regarding whether a user group should be created that could modify edit filters across all public Wikimedia wikis.

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Wikibreak
I am on Wikibreak until August 25. --Rschen7754 00:15, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Rating article classes
I have a question, since you're the founder of WP:USRD. How can you become qualified to change the rating on articles from Start to C Class and B Class? Is there a special qualification and process a user has to go through? Thank you for taking the time to read this. -MatthewAnderson707 (talk|sandbox) 23:42, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
 * There's no hard and fast rule, as long as you understand the criteria. Generally when it's your own article, it is the custom to use reassess=yes so that someone else can review it, at least until you've been around a while. (That used to make a post in the IRC channel but I think that functionality no longer works). FWIW, being the "founder" doesn't give me any special privileges. There are editors who take initiative and keep certain parts of USRD running, but it's all initiative and there's no elections or anything like that. --Rschen7754 04:34, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Books & Bytes – Issue 35, July – August 2019
<div style = "color: #936c29; font-size: 4em; font-family: Copperplate, 'Copperplate Gothic Light', serif"> The Wikipedia Library <span style="font-size: 2em; font-family: Copperplate, 'Copperplate Gothic Light', serif">Books & Bytes

Issue 35, July – August 2019 <div style = "margin-top: 1.5em; border: 3px solid #ae8c55; border-radius: .5em; padding: 1em 1.5em; font-size: 1.2em">
 * Wikimania
 * We're building something great, but..
 * Wikimedia and Libraries User Group update
 * A Wikibrarian's story
 * Bytes in brief

Read the full newsletter On behalf of The Wikipedia Library team --MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:58, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

Agree
You said at that RfA that "Wikimedia is all about people working together to build something, and if someone cannot raise legitimate criticisms in a collaborative manner, they should not be in any position of leadership on this site." I agree with that. The sad thing is that there are people currently in positions of leadership within the Wikimedia movement who fail to meet the standard you are setting there. I wish there was a way to point this out without making things worse. Carcharoth (talk) 10:12, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 30 September 2019
<div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:07, 30 September 2019 (UTC)