User talk:Rthrelfall

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Ik
Thank you for the great and much needed expansion of Ik! Great work. &mdash; mark &#9998; 20:16, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Translation
Thanks for adding the butterfly dream translation to Zhuangzi, but you forgot the publication reference. Would you please add it? Thanks. Keahapana 22:13, 9 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I see you've also added your unpublished translations into the Huangdi Neijing article. Since you're new to Wikipedia, you may not know about citing oneself. I'll replace your butterfly dream version with a published one. If you have any questions, you can reply by editing this page. Best wishes. Keahapana 19:38, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

At this time none of my translations are published. Eventually they will be part of a book I am writing. I question the rule of not citing oneself in this context as translations while original are not always original research in that some translations are straight forward and require no research, just technical knowledge. Also, Watson's translations of Zhuangzi are clearly copyrighted and thus likely are not permitted on Wikipedia, so I added my translation to avoid copyright infringement. I added my name, so that it was clear as to who did the translation. I don't really care if my name is removed, but I question the wisdom of quoting copyrighted works when the translation per se is not being discussed or written about, just its general meaning. I believe discussing a particular translation, such as its accuracy would fall into the category of fair use as it is scholarly activity about a specific translation. Analyzing a translation may be considered original research, but when a translation is clearly wrong as determined by an expert, it is not so much original research as simply a matter of reporting an error.

Given that original pictures can be uploaded why not original translations? Honestly, what is worse, violating copyright or bending the rule on citing oneself? Again, I do not believe a translation always implies "original research." A translation may be original, but not more so than any new piece of writing. Rthrelfall 08:15, 15 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for noting the copyright violation. It was my mistake. I've fixed it and deleted the links.


 * You have some interesting views about translation. I don't make the Wikipedia guidelines; I just try to follow them. If you want to question the wisdom of the rules, you could start here.


 * There are obvious advantages for an encyclopedia quoting published translations. For instance, a reader can't find the original context in an unpublished source. I agree with you that is should be acceptable to analyze or compare translations. Best wishes. Keahapana 22:33, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

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