User talk:RuadhanMac

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January 2014
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 * on a par with the clerical scandals we have seen exposed in the past two decades./blockquote   "Symphysiotomy: Statements, Thursday,

Speedy deletion nomination of Survivors of Symphysiotomy


A tag has been placed on Survivors of Symphysiotomy requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, you can place a request here. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 19:22, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Neutrality
Your recent edits to symphysiotomy appear to violate Wikipedia's neutrality policy, and instead appear to be an attempt to use Wikipedia to advocate for your own agenda. This opinion is enhanced by your creation of the Survivors of Symphysiotomy article about the advocacy group for survivors of this procedure. Please address the discussion being held at Talk:Symphysiotomy. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 19:37, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I have asked for you to join the discussion at Talk:Symphysiotomy rather than replying to me directly. To aid in the community discussion of the issue, I have copied your response to me to the Symphysiotomy talk page, and responded there.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:13, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Your recent edits
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Promotion and notability
I am taking this discussion off of Talk:Symphysiotomy because it has clearly left the topic of the neutrality of your edits there and has entered the realm of why your article on Survivors of Symphysiotomy was deleted. You mention the page about Eoin Ó Broin as an example of a politician promoting himself. That particular article has been edited by many editors since its creation over six years ago. Any hints of promotion that may have existed at its creation have been removed, and as a politician who has held national office within Ireland, he is notable enough to have garnered significant independent and neutral coverage for a verifiable article to be written. The same is true for the Éirígí article: neutral and supported by reliable sources. The administrator who deleted Survivors of Symphysiotomy clearly did not feel that the article that had been written demonstrated that the group was notable. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate list of everything that exists, and it is most certainly not a soapbox for you to promote your own group's specific agenda. While I agree that the aims of SoS are laudable, that doesn't mean they automatically merit inclusion in the encyclopedia. Many groups do laudable work, but not all of them should be included. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:45, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

I agree WikiDan61 that it the later part of this engagement goes beyond the original discussion and Ive removed my comments as Ive noticed that the discussion is in the public domain. Nevertheless I do not agree with your overall findings. On the significance of the organisation, SoS has more members than Éirigí and most of the other irrelevant political forces in Ireland. It has real support, it's a just a pity you guys do want to know. Perhaps membership doesnt necessarily mean anything but I still dont see any other objective criteria. .
 * I note that you have contacted regarding the deletion of this article.  If you do not get a satisfactory answer from that user, you are free to ask for a WP:Deletion review of your article. Further, you are free to nominate any other article that you feel does not meet the criteria for inclusion at WP:Articles for deletion.  However, I recommend that you do not do so just to prove a point.  That kind of thing is considered non-constructive and can get you blocked.
 * If you need objective criteria by which the article about your organization was and will be judged, please consider reading WP:ORG and WP:GNG. These Wikipedia policy pages spell out in great detail the things that administrators evaluate when deciding whether or not to delete an article.  While you're reading, also consider reading Wikipedia's conflict of interest policy which spells out why it's generally a bad idea to write about people, things or organizations with which you are personally involved.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 22:34, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

I wont be taking the matter any further.